Should I Switch to Essential Phone? - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

Hello guys, I'll keep everything short.
I own Pocophone F1 , Should I switch to essential? What are cons and pros of Essential phone? It's on latest pie right now (I gave my Poco to friend for a week, he gave me his Essential) and fingerprint option is missing from settings, Can it be fixed? Is Camera "That" bad? Is battery better than Poco?
Thank you, please don't ignore this post if you have experience

Mrleonsio said:
Hello guys, I'll keep everything short.
I own Pocophone F1 , Should I switch to essential? What are cons and pros of Essential phone? It's on latest pie right now (I gave my Poco to friend for a week, he gave me his Essential) and fingerprint option is missing from settings, Can it be fixed? Is Camera "That" bad? Is battery better than Poco?
Thank you, please don't ignore this post if you have experience
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I had both....both are great but roms on essential are limited....digitizer isn't good and signal strength isn't good on essential....but I loved the small size

No way I don't think it's an upgrade, there are people regretting buying an essential instead of a pocophone.
Their only upgrade is the android q to look forward to.
Camera is still bad.
I'm still wondering if I should get a note 8 because their prices dropped.
(the vr the large 6.3" oled screen and pen looks so nice for around 350-400 usd. Plus the one ui pie is released)

pingufanpoy said:
No way I don't think it's an upgrade, there are people regretting buying an essential instead of a pocophone.
Their only upgrade is the android q to look forward to.
Camera is still bad.
I'm still wondering if I should get a note 8 because their prices dropped.
(the vr the large 6.3" oled screen and pen looks so nice for around 350-400 usd. Plus the one ui pie is released)
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There seems to be an issue where you can't use substratum or any software to modify android system

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Galaxy S6 to Poco F1 upgrade, worth it ?

Hello Guys,
Do you think is it worth it to upgrade my Galaxy S6 to a Poco F1 ?
I bought my Galaxy S6 about 3 years ago and other than its battery life and some scratches on the screen and dodgy USB port, I have no other complaints.
Galaxy S6 was a $800 buy at the time and Poco is like $300 now. so I am trading a flagship for a mid-range device.
And actually GS6 still beats Poco in some categories like screen, camera and build quality.
So what do you think ? should I wait another year or two ? or buy Poco F1 ?
Personally, yes. But its your choice, for $350 you are getting a good deal.
Lol thats exactly what i did, i had a galaxy s6 and upgrade to a poco a week ago, and **** yes its worth it, its such an amazing upgrade i really reccomend you doing that, its worth every penny
678GUY said:
Lol thats exactly what i did, i had a galaxy s6 and upgrade to a poco a week ago, and **** yes its worth it, its such an amazing upgrade i really reccomend you doing that, its worth every penny
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Dont you feel any downgrades on the screen department ? GS6 has a 576 ppi super amoled screen compared to 416 ppi LCD screen on Poco F1.
fifthelement said:
Dont you feel any downgrades on the screen department ? GS6 has a 576 ppi super amoled screen compared to 416 ppi LCD screen on Poco F1.
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definitely a downgrade ,especially the black renders ,coming from a s6 edge plus , but weighting the price factor , you cant really complain , also it lack some feature like nfc and wireless charge ,which i doesnt use at all.
fifthelement said:
Dont you feel any downgrades on the screen department ? GS6 has a 576 ppi super amoled screen compared to 416 ppi LCD screen on Poco F1.
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tbh not really its not a 1440p screen anymore but its not like i used the 1440 in anyway maybe the only thing i have a problom with is the location of the fingerpritn sensor but ill get used to it
Meh I like my Poco F1 more compared to s7 no way i would go back to s7.
Armoured Ed. Xiaomi F1 256/8
i9100g user said:
Meh I like my Poco F1 more compared to s7 no way i would go back to s7.
Armoured Ed. Xiaomi F1 256/8
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May I know where u got your armoured version from ? I can not find it on any sites other than flipkart.
fifthelement said:
May I know where u got your armoured version from ? I can not find it on any sites other than flipkart.
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Got it directly from xiaomi with the help of a source also got a 8000inr redmi 5 free with it.(which I sold back)
Sent from my SM-G900H using Tapatalk
I sold s7edge to get poco and im very pleased with upgrade, the screen is not as good as s7edge but after a few days i dont even notice it.
fifthelement said:
Hello Guys,
Do you think is it worth it to upgrade my Galaxy S6 to a Poco F1 ?
I bought my Galaxy S6 about 3 years ago and other than its battery life and some scratches on the screen and dodgy USB port, I have no other complaints.
Galaxy S6 was a $800 buy at the time and Poco is like $300 now. so I am trading a flagship for a mid-range device.
And actually GS6 still beats Poco in some categories like screen, camera and build quality.
So what do you think ? should I wait another year or two ? or buy Poco F1 ?
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i upgraded from s7, yes the screen is not so good compared to super amoled and the build quality considering it's a budget phone, the camera is not that bad and personally in my opinion that poco camera is better than s6 maybe because the soc, and at some point is better than my s7. Moreover if you use google camera, it's slightly better.
But.. if you want better screen, camera and build quality. You might want to add some extra bucks for Mi8. It's around $380-$400 here in my country.
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ferdieses said:
i upgraded from s7, yes the screen is not so good compared to super amoled and the build quality considering it's a budget phone, the camera is not that bad and personally in my opinion that poco camera is better than s6 maybe because the soc, and at some point is better than my s7. Moreover if you use google camera, it's slightly better.
But.. if you want better screen, camera and build quality. You might want to add some extra bucks for Mi8. It's around $380-$400 here in my country.
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so yeah, I'm gonna say it's worth it from my perspective view
ferdieses said:
But.. if you want better screen, camera and build quality. You might want to add some extra bucks for Mi8.
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I'd say go for the mi8. Lovely phone with look and feel much more consistent with the galaxy line. Love my F1 but if amoled is your thing, there's no denying that the F1 doesn't have it
about four times better in battery? yes
I remember when is use S6, i must charge it twice a day at the lunch break,
thanhnvt194 said:
about four times better in battery? yes
I remember when is use S6, i must charge it twice a day at the lunch break,
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older sammy is a good phone , yea the battery just dont cut it , most of the time i am charging the phone , up to date oem battery hard to find , not sure about xiaomi , do they sell replacement battery ?

Switching Galaxy S8 to Xiaomi Mi 8. Worth it?

Hi buddies!
My 3 last smartphones were Samsung ones (A5/2016, Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S8) and now I'm thinking of trying something different.
I have nothing to complain about my Galaxy S8, but let's say that I'm tired of it.
I use the smartphone mainly for for social media and taking pictures, so, the camera is the more important feature for me.
Thinking of a new smartphone, I have Xiaomi Mi 8 and OnePlus 6T in mind.
I had in my hands the Mi A1 and Mi A2, but never used one with MIUI.
How about the screen quality? Will I notice too much difference switching back from 1440p to 1080p?
Is Mi 8 camera better than Galaxy S8's?
What you guys have to say about this deal?
No, you won't notice the difference between 1440 and 1080. Screen is excellent but s8 screen is a little brighter. Nevertheless xiaomi developer team is really really slooooow don't expect to be up to date with Android releases. I mean I am running 8.1 on mi8 (flagship) while the S7 is already on Pie.
Sent from my MI 8 using Tapatalk
Gadox182 said:
No, you won't notice the difference between 1440 and 1080. Screen is excellent but s8 screen is a little brighter. Nevertheless xiaomi developer team is really really slooooow don't expect to be up to date with Android releases. I mean I am running 8.1 on mi8 (flagship) while the S7 is already on Pie.
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Pie come soon
Maybe in December
Gadox182 said:
No, you won't notice the difference between 1440 and 1080. Screen is excellent but s8 screen is a little brighter. Nevertheless xiaomi developer team is really really slooooow don't expect to be up to date with Android releases. I mean I am running 8.1 on mi8 (flagship) while the S7 is already on Pie.
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s7 on pie hahaha i dont know not even s9 has it ...s9 do but is running on alpha in fact s7 will never run pie since wont be supported by one ui new samy ui ......mi 8 as already pie for an while ...slow update huh? they released updates every week so i don't know were u been ....i had an s8 exinos whit renovate ice rom still some how die while playing pubg i guess exinos is not as good for gaming like sd845
Xiaomi updates every week ONLY Beta Builds. S7 has PI look it up I can show you some picture later. Please stop confusing people glorifying xiaomi dev team.
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Most of Xiaomi users even don't know what is MIUI Beta/Weekly and the Global Stable ROM is very slow to update.
I had the S8 and made the change to Mi 8.
At first, running the Global stable rom, i was kinda let down. Hdr didn't work, camera was not good and headphone audio volume was low.
Then i installed the Global beta rom (based on pie). All the above problems were fixed, the camera if you want to install the bsg Gcam is Amazing. Stock is good too but Gcam is miles ahead. The norch support is improved, you can now get notifications on status bar.
The mi 8 is snappier ( touchwiz is laggy).Battery on this thing is really good (geting 7h SOT on miui). The Mi 8's screen is a downgrade but not as big as i first thought. I played many videos side by side and could notice "blacker" blacks on the S8.
My opinion is to go with mi 8 if you want to install a custom rom, to make it pixel-like or AOSP in general.
Imho even a Redmi note 6 pro would be a massive upgrade from any Samsung device.
Can't stand their roms and bloatware. Great hardware but awful software.
Gadox182 said:
Xiaomi updates every week ONLY Beta Builds. S7 has PI look it up I can show you some picture later. Please stop confusing people glorifying xiaomi dev team.
Sent from my MI 8 using Tapatalk
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S7 has Pie only on custom Roms! Mostly on crappy AOSP Rom's where the battery life and camera quality is really bad.
Mi 8 and also Poco has Pie on official Beta from vendor. Even the S9 didn't have a official beta from Vendor with Pie (as far i know, but don't keep an eye on S9 dev).
Please keep the facts! Has nothing to do with glorifying someone.
Gadox182 said:
Xiaomi updates every week ONLY Beta Builds. S7 has PI look it up I can show you some picture later. Please stop confusing people glorifying xiaomi dev team.
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No. You are confusing them. S7 has no official OTA pie update. S9 does not have stabel OTA pie. Infact, both Xiaomi and Samsung are really slow.
Ricardo Guariento said:
Hi buddies!
My 3 last smartphones were Samsung ones (A5/2016, Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S8) and now I'm thinking of trying something different.
I have nothing to complain about my Galaxy S8, but let's say that I'm tired of it.
I use the smartphone mainly for for social media and taking pictures, so, the camera is the more important feature for me.
Thinking of a new smartphone, I have Xiaomi Mi 8 and OnePlus 6T in mind.
I had in my hands the Mi A1 and Mi A2, but never used one with MIUI.
How about the screen quality? Will I notice too much difference switching back from 1440p to 1080p?
Is Mi 8 camera better than Galaxy S8's?
What you guys have to say about this deal?
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In principle, I advise you against it,
I have Mi8 it is very good phone at an excellent price, I moved from Galaxy Note 4
Mi8 battery life is great, usually I get +7 hours of SOT, and sometimes I reach 48 hours of use on one charge.
display is great, colors and brightness
I don't play games on it but the performance is smooth in general
the design and dimensions are very good also
the finger print sensor is fast , convenient and well placed.
charging is faster than Samsung's
I have used Samsung's software for years and I like, but you can easily get used to MIUI.
the stock camera software is not that good, but you can use a Gcam port like I do.
I have one complain about the Mi8 which is the speaker loudness, it is nearly inaudible if compared to my previous Note 4.
if you "need" a new phone immediately it will be a very good choice at a budget.
If you are looking for an upgrade from the S8, I think you Mi 8 is not a suitable one, neither the OP6T, especially with that in-display slow andn insecure finger print sensor.
I explained my reasons here - https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/love-mi-8-t3876024.
Ricardo Guariento said:
Hi buddies!
My 3 last smartphones were Samsung ones (A5/2016, Galaxy S7 and Galaxy S8) and now I'm thinking of trying something different.
I have nothing to complain about my Galaxy S8, but let's say that I'm tired of it.
I use the smartphone mainly for for social media and taking pictures, so, the camera is the more important feature for me.
Thinking of a new smartphone, I have Xiaomi Mi 8 and OnePlus 6T in mind.
I had in my hands the Mi A1 and Mi A2, but never used one with MIUI.
How about the screen quality? Will I notice too much difference switching back from 1440p to 1080p?
Is Mi 8 camera better than Galaxy S8's?
What you guys have to say about this deal?
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You will notice the difference in sound quality if you have an In-ear monitor (IEM) like KZ ZSN.
but price wise, and performance yeah I will definitely choose Mi8. will just need to unlock and tweak the audio. cheers
I've done it myself and I can say that I love the MI8 for its overall performance and MIUI10 which is to me so far the best Android experience. I do miss some stuff tough like the wireless charging and IP68 certification which was really nice to have. But I don't regret my purchase.
blop135 said:
I've done it myself and I can say that I love the MI8 for its overall performance and MIUI10 which is to me so far the best Android experience. I do miss some stuff tough like the wireless charging and IP68 certification which was really nice to have. But I don't regret my purchase.
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And what do you say about the camera?
Do you think it's better than S8's?
Some guys told be that Mi8 + GCam crushes S8 in pictures.
Ricardo Guariento said:
And what do you say about the camera?
Do you think it's better than S8's?
Some guys told be that Mi8 + GCam crushes S8 in pictures.
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I honestly couldn't tell if it's better or worse but it's really decent ?
I have the The mi 8 pro (in UK) and can confirm that the camera is nowhere near as good as the Samsung.
Very, very, disappointed.
Ricardo Guariento said:
And what do you say about the camera?
Do you think it's better than S8's?
Some guys told be that Mi8 + GCam crushes S8 in pictures.
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Just upgrade to miui 10 pie and see difference
Based on Dxo after update mi 8 score same as mi mix3 [103]
I used s8 plus and mi 8 camera side by side and mi 8 camera so better than s8 in Photo .

Need some suggestions

Guys,
Is it worth now to buy this device now ?
Custom rom or MIUI ?
deepu0098 said:
Guys,
Is it worth now to buy this device now ?
Custom rom or MIUI ?
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It depends on you. If you can wait for 2 to 3 months then wait for poco f2 else buy this. Or if you have slightly high budget like 30k to 40k INR then go with oneplus or asus.
I prefer custom rom over miui.
Hope this helps.
deepu0098 said:
Guys,
Is it worth now to buy this device now ?
Custom rom or MIUI ?
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Hi, I think F1 is worth the price a great phone imo, there's F2 coming but can't guarantee that it would come at the same price point just like Honor did. I personally love the phone had no issues whatsoever, I come from a Redmi 4 prime I was using Pixel Experience Rom, but with Poco I won't change MIUI full screen gestures for nothing it's just perfect.
It's definitely still worth it and it's still the best value smartphone available with top-tier internal specs. The battery life is great. The notch is annoying. Speed is great.
I prefer MIUI since it's actually quite good, the only problem is it didn't show notifications properly in the notifications bar. They say they're fixing that soon though. They provide easy more software updates than Samsung including the security patches.
I will probably also buy the F2 shortly after it launches provided it meets a good priceerformance like the F1.
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If you were to change...

Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro is another decent option but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
amn1987 said:
The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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Thanks for input. I though pretty much the same Poco F1 would be the best option!
SpawnX1200 said:
Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
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Wait for Mi A3 . not sure its launching date. it is android one device. Bootloader unlocking is very easy for android one phone.
Updates will given by google and not xiaomi. Also u will get 3 android updates. Spec will be same like rn7 pro.
Or buy rn7 pro. It has QC 4.0 charging and 4000mah battery.
From Kenzo, I used Tissot which is Mi A1 and now lavender which is Redmi Note 7.
Redmi Note 7 aka lavender as of now has very minimal development going on based on xda threads available. But the good thing is that it supports treble so gsi will provide you with a lot of custom rom and me myself is using a GSI now. Violet aka Note 7 Pro on the other hand has a better development than lavender. It has great camera too considering you are using gcam to full utilize the camera and also lavender's camera is Greta as well but not as good as violet. Lavender has Snapdragon 660 and violet has Snapdragon 675.

should I upgrade?

Love m20p but the lack of root/roms is giving me itchy feet!
Looking at s20+ or oneplus 7t(pro)
Should I, or should I not? S20+ is obviously a large financial investment, is it worth it?
I'm one for getting the new models all the time, however, I'm more than happy with this phone, no need to upgrade for me
BlueMeany68 said:
Love m20p but the lack of root/roms is giving me itchy feet!
Looking at s20+ or oneplus 7t(pro)
Should I, or should I not? S20+ is obviously a large financial investment, is it worth it?
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If you can get without breaking the bank then go. But not the exynos version?
I sold my OnePlus 7 pro one moth ago and come back to my mate 20 pro from the drawer . The camera and battery and 3k screen I love it on mate 20 pro . At the end of the day I got 64 procent battery I got wireless charger and finger print. I don't know man but for me the camera is a must. Camera in OnePlus 7 Pro is like a toy . I tried gcam and lots of stuff .
The only problem with mate 20 pro and I miss if from OnePlus is the speaker . They are so tiny I can't watch YouTube.
Oneplus 8 Pro??
BlueMeany68 said:
Love m20p but the lack of root/roms is giving me itchy feet!
Looking at s20+ or oneplus 7t(pro)
Should I, or should I not? S20+ is obviously a large financial investment, is it worth it?
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To be honest, i don't miss the rooting and custom roms that much. Most of the things i did root for or install a custom rom, this phone has it baked in. And i'm coming from 2 Nexus devices.

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