One interesting thing that most people aren't talking about is the fact that Samsung's new displays are actually TUV Rheinland certified for significantly less blue light emission (advertised 42% reduction), while still maintaining optimal colors and picture quality.
To me this is a huge selling point. Most people probably don't care, but blue light is shown to cause significant eye strain, and slow the development of melatonin in the brain., destroying your sleep quality. Just curious on everyone's thoughts about this.
Here's some more info if anyone's interested;
https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-s10/design/
https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung...rp-reduction-blue-light-emission-oled-panels/
Samsung discussed it at their event. Reviewers/Youtubers and tech sites rarely comment on blue light emission. You'll come across more articles on how to kill Bixby! The Honor 8X was certified too, but few speak about it.
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Samsung discussed it at their event. Reviewers/Youtubers and tech sites rarely comment on blue light emission. You'll come across more articles on how to kill Bixby! The Honor 8X was certified too, but few speak about it.
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Didn't know about the honor 8x. Is that also a Samsung display? I'm curios to know exactly what manufactures use Samsung displays aside from Apple.
hope this doesn't mean the screen will be more yellow. I hate that. loved Samsungs bc of their nicer, bluer screens tbh. my pixel 2 looks nasty compared to my note 9.
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hope this doesn't mean the screen will be more yellow. I hate that. loved Samsungs bc of their nicer, bluer screens tbh. my pixel 2 looks nasty compared to my note 9.
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Blue-light filters usually make things yellow, but I checked the s10/s10+ in a shop and the display is PERFECT, the white levels are incredibly pure and it looks cleaner than my XZ1's IPS which I thought would have unbeatable whites when compared to oleds, that's no longer the case.
I always hated OLED but Samsung found a way to reduce its drawbacks while creating a super accurate panel, if you want to buy one last AMOLED device while waiting for Micro-led to be a thing in mobile, this looks like a very wise choice.
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Blue-light filters usually make things yellow, but I checked the s10/s10+ in a shop and the display is PERFECT, the white levels are incredibly pure and it looks cleaner than my XZ1's IPS which I thought would have unbeatable whites when compared to oleds, that's no longer the case.
I always hated OLED but Samsung found a way to reduce its drawbacks while creating a super accurate panel, if you want to buy one last AMOLED device while waiting for Micro-led to be a thing in mobile, this looks like a very wise choice.
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Didnt even know about micro led until now. Does look very promising. Hopefully we see in on the S12 if not sooner.
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Didnt even know about micro led until now. Does look very promising. Hopefully we see in on the S12 if not sooner.
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They're still trying to shrink it for the average TV size, I hope it will come soon.
Did some more research on the Honor 8x, it appears they are advertising blue light reduction with their "eye comfort mode" which tweaks the colors you are seeing. While on the other hand, Samsung is pointing out the 42% reduction from previous OLED's still maintains the same colors you're seeing. So based off that, the S10 is capable of reducing exposure without software tweaks.
It also appears that out of the box, the S10 is defaulted to the "Natural" color setting, and provides a "Vibrant" setting, which does increase color saturation. I wonder if the higher color setting changes your exposure by much...
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Did some more research on the Honor 8x, it appears they are advertising blue light reduction with their "eye comfort mode" which tweaks the colors you are seeing. While on the other hand, Samsung is pointing out the 42% reduction from previous OLED's still maintains the same colors you're seeing. So based off that, the S10 is capable of reducing exposure without software tweaks.
It also appears that out of the box, the S10 is defaulted to the "Natural" color setting, and provides a "Vibrant" setting, which does increase color saturation. I wonder if the higher color setting changes your exposure by much...
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Then the Honor 8x's solution is nothing more than a software re calibration tweak, I'm glad the S10 comes with a hardware solution that doesn't impact viewing experience.
But yeah using Vivid mode will increase your exposure to blue light depending on the displayed colors, I wouldn't worry that much, it is in no way as dangerous as the exposure to TVs, Desktop monitors or even daylight.
Can someone link to a bluelight study that shows its harmful. I lost my ebsco access when I left college. I always thought this was an overreaction. I've been staring at cool temp computer screens since the 90s, and my recent eye exam says my eyes are still perfect.
I've found the press release, but no peer reviewed papers.
http://utnews.utoledo.edu/index.php/08_08_2018/ut-chemists-discover-how-blue-light-speeds-blindness
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Can someone link to a bluelight study that shows its harmful. I lost my ebsco access when I left college. I always thought this was an overreaction. I've been staring at cool temp computer screens since the 90s, and my recent eye exam says my eyes are still perfect.
I've found the press release, but no peer reviewed papers.
http://utnews.utoledo.edu/index.php/08_08_2018/ut-chemists-discover-how-blue-light-speeds-blindness
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You can get peer reviewed content from google. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0194218
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4734149/
Glad to know I'm not the only one. I even wear reading glasses with blue light filter due to my extreme light sensitivity, so yes, totally big deal for me too
Pwm is for losers. Now Sony is also on the oled bandwagon.
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I've seen a lot of youtube videos of the galaxy s II and from what I can tell, the screen is still oversaturated like the original galaxy s, with the same blue tint on white backgrounds. Any chance this would be adjusted, or even have a user-adjustable option, by release? I'm guessing a majority of people outside of forums don't care and prefer the gaudy colors, like how they crank up the color on new TVs and everyone's face looks red, because buyers prefer it. But an option would be much needed for those not so inclined to the heavy colors. Another thing I would want is a lower brightness setting. LCDs get washed out but AMOLEDs can handle lower settings and still have good contrast. With that, the ability to adjust the minimum and maximum threshold for the auto-brightness instead of one predefined setting, as well.
I doubt Samsung (or any other manufacturer) would let you modify that much in the settings. The phone is not a monitor, however I certainly see the possibilty of changing those options (or at least some) once some kind souls will start messing with the firmwares and kernels.
*cough* supercurio voodoo color *cough*
If it involves *cough* hacking *cough* I think I will have to pass. And yes, there are less industrious people around here as well.
i am pretty sure that the sgs 2 will have the same same over saturated colours and the tint(looking at review videos).i am not a fan of amoled i do like its blacks but the over saturation does my headache i prefer ips to amoled any day. if it was not their Soc's i'd never have bought sgs.
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*cough* supercurio voodoo color *cough*
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This.
Sent from my Captivate.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/27/nexus-s-2-3-3-update-adjusts-screens-color-temperature-we-go-e/
Or the Nexus S general forum. Fingers crossed.
A challenging task for the devs here ...........
I only see a blue tint when I tilt the angle of the screen. It doesn't take much to see it and becomes more extreme the more it's tilted. Looking straight on is fine. I didn't expect there to be perfect viewing angles but tilting just a little the blue tint is really prominent. Easily viewed on a pure white screen.
Great phone, though I want to use the device to watch videos and two things bother me: the blue tint when not viewed straight on and the over saturated colours. The colour green is very oversaturated much to the point where I think there's green in the videos showing up that shouldn't be there! I know you can adjust the colour tones, that include warm, cold and natural. If the image looks too yellow/green then the cold setting looks a bit more natural on some videos. I would have preferred a proper configuration for adjusting the complete colour balance.
The screen is wonderful but is let down by these two things. If it's something that can't be helped then that's the way it is, but it would be great to have more control over the colour settings and if the blue tint is really a limitation of the type of screen/glass, or the first batch of phones have an inherent fault with the screen?
On thing that is also off is the gamma curve!
greys become dark too fast, shadow details are crushed, even though the screen has the potential not to do this. On the contrary, with such black levels, the panel should be able to show more shadow details.
I suspect this is a battery saving choice, rather than a screen limitation. I'd rather have an accurate gamma though.
Google will need to allow custom color profiles in Android soon!
My Galaxy S has much more natural colors than the S2 that I just bought. I can't stand the disney colors! Hope some developer will be able to fix that soon!
Is it just me?
How come you guys say that the SGS2 has bluish tint? While when I compare it to my SGS(speedmod) and my friends SGS(voodoo) my SGS2 has a yellowish tint to it? I'm a bit confused. Anyway I've bought it and my only complaint is the sound. Voodoo control plus please!
There is some degree of control (not much though) over the saturation in Settings > Display > Background effect.
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How come you guys say that the SGS2 has bluish tint? While when I compare it to my SGS(speedmod) and my friends SGS(voodoo) my SGS2 has a yellowish tint to it? I'm a bit confused. Anyway I've bought it and my only complaint is the sound. Voodoo control plus please!
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The easiest way to see this is to view a white page/screen. Look straight on and then begin tilting the phone in any direction. The blue tint becomes noticeable and more extreme the more you tilt it. I wouldn't have a problem if it was only noticeable at extreme angles, but I do see it if the viewing angle isn't straight on. For phone use this is fine, not so bothered. Not so good when watching media.
Regarding the tint,
Also when i purchased the phone in may the gray was going into pink!
On later updates colors seem better! aswell i rember i posted a request in chainfires 3d drivers tread were i ask the guy kindly to add support for custom rgb mode nightmode tones...
So from his application if u play with nightmode function you can tilt your color as u like!
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On thing that is also off is the gamma curve!
greys become dark too fast, shadow details are crushed, even though the screen has the potential not to do this. On the contrary, with such black levels, the panel should be able to show more shadow details.
I suspect this is a battery saving choice, rather than a screen limitation. I'd rather have an accurate gamma though.
Google will need to allow custom color profiles in Android soon!
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There is actually a post/study about this :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1124669
I just wanted to get everyone's opnion on the state of development of color calibration on the N10. I bought one of these tablets not too long ago, and while the imperfect color doesn't terribly annoy me, I'd still prefer if there were a solution. I'm currently running AOKP on the KTManta kernel, the latter which claimed to adjust the colors to a degree, but colors are still noticeably imperfect. In comparison to another family member's iPad 3, it's especially bad.
I know there was some discussion before regarding this, but there doesn't seem to be a solution as of right now. If there's a solution that's been found that I'm not aware of, especially one that's robust as the one found in the color control of the Galaxy Nexus, please let us know, as information about this is few and far between. Blues in particular seem especially bad.
To the best of my knowledge no one has crack the color control issue on the N10. As you point out the most documented progress is with the experimental KTManta kernel. Are you sure you are running the experimental version of KTManta? You have to dig in that thread to get the download URL. I have not tried the experimental version myself.
The last I read was that improvements have been made but the ??blues?? were still way off. That comment came from someone who had the proper test equipment which is used to calibrate HDTVs.
Why manufacturers do not either include a calibration app (RBG, gamma control) or documentation how it can be programmed I do not know. It is frustrating, feeling that with a little tweaking, the screen could be better especially during very dark scenes.
Pretty sure all the latest releases still have the color tweaks in them, but ill ask Ktoonsez today to make sure.
All that is done right now is a few minor tweaks to a couple values, which is all that can be found to do. The full color control code is not in the source at all. That means either someone needs to dig really deep and hopefully find something we can use, or port the entire section of code over from another device that has a similar chipset, which there currently isnt one.
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Pretty sure all the latest releases still have the color tweaks in them, but ill ask Ktoonsez today to make sure.
All that is done right now is a few minor tweaks to a couple values, which is all that can be found to do. The full color control code is not in the source at all. That means either someone needs to dig really deep and hopefully find something we can use, or port the entire section of code over from another device that has a similar chipset, which there currently isnt one.
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I thought there was a Chromebook with the same SoC?
Personally, unless I am doing a side by side comparison with my wife's Ipad4 or looking for problems I don't notice any gamma issues. I notice that when I sit down and just enjoy it, it's actually pretty easy to do. I love my Nexus 10.
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I thought there was a Chromebook with the same SoC?
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Actually your right there is a chromebook thqat uses this chipset. I am sure a dev has already at least casually looked through its source. If anyone else wants to look, the Samsung Chromebook is supposed to use this source tree:
http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=c...now-2695.B;hb=refs/heads/firmware-snow-2695.B
source for finding that git tree is:
http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os...-for-chrome-os-devices/samsung-arm-chromebook
This device uses Das U-Boot to boot the system. You can find the source in the ChromiumOS u-boot git tree. The system actually boots two different versions. The RO SPI flash uses u-boot from the firmware-snow-2695.B branch. The read-write firmware comes from the latest chromeos-v####.## branch (the version number tracks the respective upstream u-boot release).
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Looking forward to this if its possible, the whites on my nexus 10 look yellow
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To the best of my knowledge no one has crack the color control issue on the N10. As you point out the most documented progress is with the experimental KTManta kernel. Are you sure you are running the experimental version of KTManta? You have to dig in that thread to get the download URL. I have not tried the experimental version myself.
The last I read was that improvements have been made but the ??blues?? were still way off. That comment came from someone who had the proper test equipment which is used to calibrate HDTVs.
Why manufacturers do not either include a calibration app (RBG, gamma control) or documentation how it can be programmed I do not know. It is frustrating, feeling that with a little tweaking, the screen could be better especially during very dark scenes.
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Like someone above mentioned, I believe the latest official release of the kernel comes with the color tweaks baked in.
I've attached a photo of my N10 (top) next to my dad's iPad 3. It's even more egregious in real life, but even in this picture, it's easily seen how much softer and lighter the blue paint looks on the Nexus. Knowing what the car looks like in person, I can attest that the iPad is displaying it much closer to real life.
Is that the same picture or did you take pictures with each device's camera?
They look like different pictures to me(slightly different angles) ... You need to load the same picture(from the same camera) on both tablets and then take a picture of that...
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Is that the same picture or did you take pictures with each device's camera?
They look like different pictures to me(slightly different angles) ... You need to load the same picture(from the same camera) on both tablets and then take a picture of that...
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Of course it's the same picture. How would this be a comparison of the screens if I took two different pictures with the tablets' cameras? It's clearly the same photo, and the angles are the same.
The way each device has cropped the image makes it look like different pictures and I totally agree it looks better on the ipad... Especially the first of the trees on the left
The top one looks way better to me. The iPad has a lot less detail and far too over saturated colors.
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The top one looks way better to me. The iPad has a lot less detail and far too over saturated colors.
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It's totally up to you to make that subjective call, but I don't think it's up for debate that the iPad has much better color reproduction. The iPad is actually very well calibrated and makes colors pop and look vibrant without cranking up the contrast and saturation too much. I don't see what you mean when you say the iPad has less detail, maybe you're seeing how the camera that took the picture underexposed some of the darker parts of the iPad's display. It's still clear to me that the blue is just waaaay off on the Nexus 10. In real life, the blue is a deep, almost purple-y blue hue. The Nexus displays it almost like a sky blue/baby blue shade. I would attempt a blind comparison between the devices, but it's difficult as it's immediately obvious to distinguish between the devices due to the differing aspect ratios.
Tom's Hardware did a great job in their review on this front, though. Can't post links, but just remove the space in the middle.
tomshardware .com/reviews/nexus-10-benchmark-tablet,3410-6.html
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It's totally up to you to make that subjective call, but I don't think it's up for debate that the iPad has much better color reproduction. The iPad is actually very well calibrated and makes colors pop and look vibrant without cranking up the contrast and saturation too much. I don't see what you mean when you say the iPad has less detail, maybe you're seeing how the camera that took the picture underexposed some of the darker parts of the iPad's display. It's still clear to me that the blue is just waaaay off on the Nexus 10. In real life, the blue is a deep, almost purple-y blue hue. The Nexus displays it almost like a sky blue/baby blue shade. I would attempt a blind comparison between the devices, but it's difficult as it's immediately obvious to distinguish between the devices due to the differing aspect ratios.
Tom's Hardware did a great job in their review on this front, though. Can't post links, but just remove the space in the middle.
tomshardware .com/reviews/nexus-10-benchmark-tablet,3410-6.html
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The flower pictures, I can see more detail on the N10 screen. The iPad's screen looks more saturated, but it also seems to have too much contrast, thus losing the finer details.
I like details over over-saturated colors.
I also own both devices, and the colours are definitely a lot better on the iPad
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Like someone above mentioned, I believe the latest official release of the kernel comes with the color tweaks baked in.
I've attached a photo of my N10 (top) next to my dad's iPad 3. It's even more egregious in real life, but even in this picture, it's easily seen how much softer and lighter the blue paint looks on the Nexus. Knowing what the car looks like in person, I can attest that the iPad is displaying it much closer to real life.
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Off topic, but good god do I want a focus st
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Off topic, but good god do I want a focus st
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Brofist. I love the Focus ST, and plan to buy one as soon as I can. Kudos to you for recognizing it! It first occurred to me how bad the blues were on the Nexus 10 when I was frequenting the forum for the car, and it was particularly bad with that particular shade of blue.
For those of you mentioning how there is more "detail" on the N10 display, I'm think detail is something that's better experienced in person. These photo comparisons of the screens serve better to capture the relative difference in color.
At this point, I guess we are to assume that there is not much progress being made as far as color calibration is concerned? How was the nut finally cracked for the color control on the GNex? Did it take more than nearly six months in the product cycle for it to happen? That's about where we're at for the Nexus 10.
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For those of you mentioning how there is more "detail" on the N10 display, I'm think detail is something that's better experienced in person. These photo comparisons of the screens serve better to capture the relative difference in color.
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It is true they are best served to compare colors, but if you are viewing the images on a proper IPS panle monitor that is calibrated properly you can see how crushed the detail is on the iPad. In the heavy color areas it is so far over-saturated that all detail within those areas is lost completely. I noticed this same thing in the darker areas of your own picture on the first page too. You claim is is probably from underexposure in the camera but that cant be right because then the Nexus 10 would have the same problem. Yet I can see detail fine on the N10 and the dark areas in the iPad are crushed.
With the color adjustments in the KTmanta kernel, after professional measurements were done to the screen we clearly find that the Nexus 10 is pretty close to perfectly calibrated in gamma, and greyscale, and many colors are near dead one. The one big issue remaining is the blue, which is basically almost into cyan color. Everything else is pretty good now.
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At this point, I guess we are to assume that there is not much progress being made as far as color calibration is concerned? How was the nut finally cracked for the color control on the GNex? Did it take more than nearly six months in the product cycle for it to happen? That's about where we're at for the Nexus 10.
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I believe Ezekeel created the color control for the Galaxy nexus, or at least he is always credited when a kernel enables color control in it. I bought my GNex a couple months after it was released and the color control was already there in full swing. So I imagine the Galaxy nexus got this feature enabled very soon after its launch, probably cause it was either much easier to do on an OMAP4 processor, or the code was already there and easy to reach. This Exynos5 chipset is brand new, and has had its color control code completely removed from the source. Which is why things are so difficult.
I just wanted to share my own experience with the Nexus 10's color calibration. I "rented" a unit from office depot and returned it 2 days later because the colors were so overly warm compared to an ipad. If you just looked at the grass you'd figure it was spring on the ipad and fall on the nexus 10.
Here is my photo gallery comparing the two
http://imgur.com/a/zQ8rF
please don't 'rawr nexus 10 rules' 'rawr your camera sucks' 'rawr pixel 1647 in the upper left 37th quadrant looks superior to pixel 4728 on the ipad rawr' at me.
I took some quick shots with my nexus 4 before i took it back, these are 1000000%%%%% unscientific comparions and should be taken with a grain of salt. If you want to see the full resolutions click on the gear icon on the upper right.
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I just wanted to share my own experience with the Nexus 10's color calibration. I "rented" a unit from office depot and returned it 2 days later because the colors were so overly warm compared to an ipad. If you just looked at the grass you'd figure it was spring on the ipad and fall on the nexus 10.
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based on this gallery, both are off, IMO. Nexus 10 colours are definitely weaker overall but the iPad is a touch too saturated -- those reds are on fire.
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the colors were so overly warm compared to an ipad.
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Overall color temp was brought to be a bit "cooler" with the color tweaks in the KTManta kernel. But yes stock colors are warm.
Just picked up an AT&T One M7, and wow, the screen temp is incredibly warm compared to my G2 and just about everything else I use with an LCD screen. Is there an app/rom/kernel (or any combo) out there that will back my screen away from the warm tint? Thanks!
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Just picked up an AT&T One M7, and wow, the screen temp is incredibly warm compared to my G2 and just about everything else I use with an LCD screen. Is there an app/rom/kernel (or any combo) out there that will back my screen away from the warm tint? Thanks!
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The warm tint is supposed to be correct and true to real life colors and what you actually see. Why would you want to stress your eyes by making the colors unnatural and harsh? I wish more companies would make their LCD's this way instead of the artificial over driven blinding harsh colors.
I calibrate my Nexus 5 with the SpyderGallery app. You just need a Spyder sensor... It isn't really a calibration in the operating system. But it will show the right colours opening images in the gallery of this app. This helps me when showing photos to my clients.
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The warm tint is supposed to be correct and true to real life colors and what you actually see. Why would you want to stress your eyes by making the colors unnatural and harsh? I wish more companies would make their LCD's this way instead of the artificial over driven blinding harsh colors.
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I wish manufacturers would give consumers the choice. Clearly there's a variance in panel manufacturing and factory calibrations, even from within the same display supplier. To me, warmer, yellow screens looks dingy and dirty, and not what my eyes are used to when reading web pages. So the warmer temperature may actually have the opposite effect on my reading comfort. Nokia has begun offering an in-OS setting on WP devices that helps correct minor variations - and I'd love to see other OEMs follow suit.
Basically, my S8 Plus' colour balance seems to look nicer than my M20Pro
I like my display a bit warm, even on the warmest of colours (In the settings) my M20Pro still looks extremely washed out and light / white.
Anyone else having this issue?
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Basically, my S8 Plus' colour balance seems to look nicer than my M20Pro
I like my display a bit warm, even on the warmest of colours (In the settings) my M20Pro still looks extremely washed out and light / white.
Anyone else having this issue?
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Thank you for the response, just tried this, still not getting the same types of colours compared to my S8 plus.
tomorrow I'll get my camera out and I'll try to show what I mean.
Just adjust it to the way temp you like. I liked the colder temp. The screen makes the whites on the pixel 2 xl horrible
I like my display as white as possible. So I like it on the cooler side
I am a little disappointed in the warmth of the screen. Yes, OLED means perfect black - but the screen is otherwise quite cold even when the 'eye comfort' is set to vivid & warm. In fact, laying this phone beside my 1st gen OPO (which was a textbook 'cold' LCD), they don't really look all that different.
Obviously Samsung tends to go to near garish, eye searing ends of the spectrum when you have things set to 'vivid', but my 10" Tab 2 is so juicy your eyeballs explode and dribble down your face. I wonder if this screen is simply cold by hardware design or if it would be possible through software to make things warmer yet. It isn't a deal breaker, but putting this thing next to an iPhone XS (which is also considered quite 'cold', explained insistently as 'more accurate'), the XS actually looks somewhat more juicy than this thing. I don't want accurate, I want to get radiation burns from the ridiculous over saturation.
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Basically, my S8 Plus' colour balance seems to look nicer than my M20Pro
I like my display a bit warm, even on the warmest of colours (In the settings) my M20Pro still looks extremely washed out and light / white.
Anyone else having this issue?
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This must be a defect then because the display is better than the Note 9 and S9 plus when its not going green. If you really need an unnaturally warm tone, it should be perfectly doable in the settings if your phone isn't faulty.
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I am a little disappointed in the warmth of the screen. Yes, OLED means perfect black - but the screen is otherwise quite cold even when the 'eye comfort' is set to vivid & warm. In fact, laying this phone beside my 1st gen OPO (which was a textbook 'cold' LCD), they don't really look all that different.
Obviously Samsung tends to go to near garish, eye searing ends of the spectrum when you have things set to 'vivid', but my 10" Tab 2 is so juicy your eyeballs explode and dribble down your face. I wonder if this screen is simply cold by hardware design or if it would be possible through software to make things warmer yet. It isn't a deal breaker, but putting this thing next to an iPhone XS (which is also considered quite 'cold', explained insistently as 'more accurate'), the XS actually looks somewhat more juicy than this thing. I don't want accurate, I want to get radiation burns from the ridiculous over saturation.
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What is it with people loving these horrible warm displays? Get an iphone x they have lovely yellow whites with truetone turned on. I wager you'll love that.
So I currently own a Tab S4, Note 10+ and Note 8 and I've been impressed with the AMOLED screen. Today I got a Tab S6 and I'm severly disapointed by the screen quality. Compaired to the other AMOLED displays, this looks like an old LED panel, pretty bad quality no deep blacks, low contrast and the same image looks totally different over the two Tab screens. Additionally, when something comes up that blurs the background, the effect is more like a severly reduced pallet count rather than the normal blurring effect.
Is this normal for the Tab S6 or is this a bad unit?
I've also had trouble with the under screen finger print scanner not registering fingerprints, so I'm thinking faulty...
I haven't had any problem with the screen nor the fingerprint. Might be a bad unit.
No problems with mine...Everything looks great. Just a thought...When I first got mine up and running it looked a little dim as you describe. I went into the settings and put it on vivid and it lit up and was a totally different look. But if that don't help then probably a faulty screen.
Come from the tab s3 have an s10 plus as my daily phone looks just as good as the s10 plus in my opinion.
Nope it isn't
I did try that, but even with vivid on it still looked washed out
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I did try that, but even with vivid on it still looked washed out
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Yeah sounds like a bad screen....I would take it back.
The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
Apparently there are a lot of people having uniformity issues with their devices and there doesn't seem to be one free of defects. As always it's the OLED lottery! Exchange until you're satisfied.
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The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
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We are all techies in this forum the average user would probably not even notice if the backlight was uneven especially if they have come from an old non OLED device I think that's probably part of the issue
Jeffro64 said:
No problems with mine...Everything looks great. Just a thought...When I first got mine up and running it looked a little dim as you describe. I went into the settings and put it on vivid and it lit up and was a totally different look. But if that don't help then probably a faulty screen.
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Totally different look that gnus hooked people up on, and milliards of nobbs saying that amoled is way superior tehnnologi. Now it decided to turn around and present natural colour palette (with uneven wrinkled display to boot), i agree that it can be not so good to look at it after vivid
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The quality control is awful, I've had three which I've returned due to uneven black levels.
Samsung are obviously aware of the issues with the displays but they don't care because many users just don't complain about it, or don't know what to look for.
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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Unsatisfying black levels? How is this possible? Black should be totally black LOL xD
Do you mean the grey color or something near black? Or you guys really talk about true black color? ( for example when booting up the device )
True blacks are fine, but it doesn't handle mixing very well - Compression and noise is easily noticeable at that point.
For example : The blacks in this video look terrible and Compression is easily noticeable when mixing the Vegas sign and the landscape of the city.
But in this video, they're perfect - The only noticeable problem in this video for me is when the camera is panning the planet and mixing black, purple and blue - at which point some minor noise is present but the rest is fine.
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True blacks are fine, but it doesn't handle mixing very well - Compression and noise is easily noticeable at that point.
For example : The blacks in this video look terrible and Compression is easily noticeable when mixing the Vegas sign and the landscape of the city.
But in this video, they're perfect - The only noticeable problem in this video for me is when the camera is panning the planet and mixing black, purple and blue - at which point some minor noise is present but the rest is fine.
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What about Galaxy tab s4? Is it the same as S6?
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What about Galaxy tab s4? Is it the same as S6?
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No idea - I came straight from the SM-T800.
tab s4 has a better screen
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Im in the same position as you and I already bought 3 Tablets that had unsatisfying black levels. I feel bad for buying and returning them and I am asking myself if I should keep trying or just give up.
The OLED display on my note 8 looks so smooth and even. I wish I would find a similar tablet display.
Did you finally find a unit of the Tab S6 that has perfect blacks ?
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No, I'm not concinved there are any perfect displays. I still have one corner that's darker, honestly this experience has put me off Samsung. As soon as there's an Android tablet with better specs I'm done with this, I might be done with Samsung to be honest, the punch holes in their new phones are horrible and they're overpriced..
What's the best way to check the uniformaty of the panel in the S6? I don't believe I've got any issues but better safe than sorry!
Tab S4 much better will return the s6 I just bought as you can see grey in blackboard in so.e videos which you don't on the tab S4. Hopefully replacement will be better.