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I had ATT for 5 years, last phones on our acct where the Samsung captivate & iPhone 3gs. Went to Sprint, got tired of not having unlimited data and wanted to stream media, they had a promo if we ported our lines they gave us a service credit (paid our ETF from ATT), and bought back our ATT phones for $120. Not a bad deal. At first just casually used the phones, wifi at home, and 3g/4g away from home. 4g is good if your outside in a good service area, avg speed tests 1-4mb, 3g, forget it. Their 3g seemed slower than ATT edge on a bad day.
I moved my "work from home" office upstairs in my house, and my wireless point is downstairs opposite side of the house. I'm had horrible wifi usage on my Samsung Epic phone, i used wifi analyzer and get about -75db, and my mac book pro gets about -69db. i would think that would be fine since my mac book still shows all its bars and i can get on the internet and it works fine. Speed test with my mac book shows 11.66 down/ 1.47 up and ping < 100ms; which is what i pay from my ISP. when i do the speed test on the Epic, i get less than 1mb down and less than 1mb up and pings over 100ms.
i tried a spare router i had in my closet, cisco 4 port and G router and placed it upstairs. Placed in bridge mode and it worked a little better upstairs. When i had my epic phone about 5 feet from it, i only had 2 bars. huh? i can walk all over downstairs with my uverse RG in my master bedroom closet and get all 3 bars, but when i go to my office, i barely get one bar and crap speeds.
i was thinking of re-locating my uverse rg access point upstairs and since i have a 110 patch panel downstairs, it would take me less than 10 minutes to re-locate, then i got to thinking, when i had my captivate & iphone, i never had a problem in my office with wifi.
what should i do here? i like to use my phone in my office when i'm working to kill some time, and since sprints 3g coverage is completely horrible, i'll use my wifi, but since somehow the wifi radio in that phone is complete crap. For the hell of it, i found a copy of 2.3.4 gingerbread and used odin to get the fw on my phone; but actually i received worse wifi speeds (if that makes any sense), so i rolled back to Froyo. I'm 2 seconds from throwing out 2 Samsung Epic phones on my account out the window and going back to ATT. I did a speed test on a Atrix phone at a electronics store and it received HSPA+ and it got about 4mb down; whereas my Epic got less than 1 with Sprint in the same location.
At first i would sacrifice slower 3g speeds from sprint, but when it doesnt even work half the time, 4g seems to only work outside at speeds of ATT 3g w/o HSPA+. so pretty much that unlimited data is they advertise is crap and i feel if i call in to complain, all they will tell me to do is update my PRL, fw and software and maybe submit a incident tkt for my slow speeds, but i know that wont correct it. With their current stand of possibly going to Light Squared for LTE from Clear Wi-max, that will maybe solve their 4g coverage in the distant future, but still stuck with sub-par 3g...
So when LTE comes to town will we lose HSPA+???
Nope they will co-exist just like edge and hspa+ do today.
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It is my understanding that even when on LTE you use GSM for phone calls and other non-data related transactions. Either way, they're not building an HSPA+ network to tear it down in 2 years.
Just checking. I don't care if I don't get LTE capability for the next 2 years, I just wish they would strengthen the signals they already have in my area.
Montgomery AL <------- never getting LTE.
There is lte here and my h+ works great they will have to coexist, they only have 2 lte phones out, a lot more use h+
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Our phones, from what I can tell, are not LTE compatible. Only h+.
When LTE arrives hopefully we will see true HSPA+ speeds
LTE
I'm actually strongly considering taking my i777 back for the Skyrocket. Even though I don't have LTE, locally, it is only a matter of time.
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I'm actually strongly considering taking my i777 back for the Skyrocket. Even though I don't have LTE, locally, it is only a matter of time.
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I suggest you don't.
Hellraiser is probably never coming to the Skyrocket. The Skyrocket has a slower SoC in general so you will notice more stutters here and there. The i777 will get ICS first through XDA.
Even if you got it today, an integrated LTE modem with the SoC won't be coming until next year for Qualcomm, and around 2H 2012 or 2013 for other companies. You won't be missing much, seeing as how by the time you do get another upgrade in 20 months you will have a step up in everything as opposed to a step up in data speeds and a step down in processor/developer support.
****, I don't even have H+ yet.
Hemlocke said:
I'm actually strongly considering taking my i777 back for the Skyrocket. Even though I don't have LTE, locally, it is only a matter of time.
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Don't fall for all this 4G marketing crap from AT&T. They are not even close to offering true HSPA+ or LTE speeds so no need to worry for now. When they offer the true speeds it will be time to change your phone anyways.
HSPA+, or Evolved High-Speed Packet Access, is a technical standard for wireless, broadband telecommunication. HSPA+ was first defined in the technical standard 3GPP release 7.
HSPA+ provides an evolution of High Speed Packet Access and provides data rates up to 84 Megabits per second (Mbit/s) to the mobile device and 22 Mbit/s from the mobile device.
3GPP Long Term Evolution (LTE) is a standard for wireless communication of high-speed data. It is based upon GSM/EDGE and Universal Mobile Telecommunications System/High Speed Packet Access (UMTS/HSPA) network technologies.Features of LTE include an all-IP flat network architecture, end-to-end QoS including provisions for low-latency communications, peak download rates nearing 300 Mbps and upload rates of 75 Mbps, capacity exceeding 200 active users per cell[3], the ability to manage fast-moving mobiles, and support for multi-cast and broadcast streams.
Ahh... i wonder what 300mbps feels like...
Hell, I wonder what 21 Mbps feels like, let alone 300.
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Local ATT store told me that LTE will be available in SC around February of 2012. Even with this info I still have no desire to switch out for an LTE phone. (I'm still within my return policy.) I have a verizon LTE hotspot for school that can hold me over. I spend 90% of my time at work or at home, so the HSPA+ is plenty to fill in the gaps when I can't use my high end connections.
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Hell, I wonder what 21 Mbps feels like, let alone 300.
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You should be able to experience 21mbps by connecting to a broadband wireless network
Most Broadband Internet providers have these speeds (except DSL I think), now 300mbps download speeds.....that would be awesome.
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Local ATT store told me that LTE will be available in SC around February of 2012. Even with this info I still have no desire to switch out for an LTE phone. (I'm still within my return policy.) I have a verizon LTE hotspot for school that can hold me over. I spend 90% of my time at work or at home, so the HSPA+ is plenty to fill in the gaps when I can't use my high end connections.
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We got LTE in Chicago. I'm from the suburbs and literally on the west side of my town we get around 3-5 Mbps but when I get on the east side (closer to Chicago) I've hit 13 Mbps. I have not been in Chicago sine i got my new phone but I think that 13 is pretty sweet but i got 36 Mbps at my house so its nothing amazing to me
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We got LTE in Chicago. I'm from the suburbs and literally on the west side of my town we get around 3-5 Mbps but when I get on the east side (closer to Chicago) I've hit 13 Mbps. I have not been in Chicago sine i got my new phone but I think that 13 is pretty sweet but i got 36 Mbps at my house so its nothing amazing to me
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I get anywhere from 2mbps to 7mbps down and usually around 1.1mbps up on my phone's data connection. (Latency around 100ms) This is perfectly acceptable for most browsing and applications, including streaming video.
I'm really hoping they keep HSPA+ around for awhile. I get killer battery life with it and the speeds are more than enough for 95% of everything I do with my phone.
In metro Detroit I only get average 1.4mbps down and 1mbps up...is my phone defective or is the network just ****ty here? The coverage map shows I have full hspa+ coverage
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I woke up this morning to a very nice surprise.... 4G LTE in my house. I live on a small backroad in a small town called LaGrange, GA so I was completely shocked. I did notice that my phone said 4G 3 times in the past few weeks for a few seconds as I was connecting to WiFi, I thought it was just a bug, but now I not so sure. I think it may have been something to do with testing. I am completely shocked because the 2 bigger towns north and south of me (Newnan and Columbus) still don't have 4g. It's also pretty fun to laugh at my wife for getting a IPhone 4s a few weeks ago and now she gets to look forward to being stuck for 2 years on 3g. I have no feeling she will come around though and decide to sell that piece of junk and get a real phone.
BTW dies anyone know if the trick for get unlimited data still works. I kinda doubt I would need it, but it would be nice not to have to worry about going over 4gbs and having to worry about overages. Thanks
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I woke up this morning to a very nice surprise.... 4G LTE in my house. I live on a small backroad in a small town called LaGrange, GA so I was completely shocked. I did notice that my phone said 4G 3 times in the past few weeks for a few seconds as I was connecting to WiFi, I thought it was just a bug, but now I not so sure. I think it may have been something to do with testing. I am completely shocked because the 2 bigger towns north and south of me (Newnan and Columbus) still don't have 4g. It's also pretty fun to laugh at my wife for getting a IPhone 4s a few weeks ago and now she gets to look forward to being stuck for 2 years on 3g. I have no feeling she will come around though and decide to sell that piece of junk and get a real phone.
BTW dies anyone know if the trick for get unlimited data still works. I kinda doubt I would need it, but it would be nice not to have to worry about going over 4gbs and having to worry about overages. Thanks
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I can't speak for the verizon iphone 4s, but I know for a fact that after an update the att version now supports 4g. It had a 4g radio built in, but wasn't used until recently.
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I can't speak for the verizon iphone 4s, but I know for a fact that after an update the att version now supports 4g. It had a 4g radio built in, but wasn't used until recently.
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nawww
"Though AT&T offers the faster 4G (or fourth-generation) LTE service for some of its smartphones and tablets, the iPhone 4S does not have the proper internal chipset to connect to that network; instead it connects to the HSPA+ network, an older, though enhanced, 3G network whose peak data rates are slower than those on LTE, but which AT&T and T-Mobile both refer to as 4G on their website and advertising materials."
hate qutoing huffingtonpost, but they're on it...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/4g-iphone-att_n_1333431.html
I'm in Warner robins, GA and we are patiently waiting to see if 4g is gonna get here on the 19th like we have been rumored. They were testing last month. What kinda speeds are you seeing?
I have also been told they patched up the unlimited data hack in early may
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"Though AT&T offers the faster 4G (or fourth-generation) LTE service for some of its smartphones and tablets, the iPhone 4S does not have the proper internal chipset to connect to that network; instead it connects to the HSPA+ network, an older, though enhanced, 3G network whose peak data rates are slower than those on LTE, but which AT&T and T-Mobile both refer to as 4G on their website and advertising materials."
hate qutoing huffingtonpost, but they're on it...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/4g-iphone-att_n_1333431.html
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My cousin has one, I was looking at it and in the status bar, right next to the signal indicator, it said 4g. we ran a speed test and got 9mbps down, I ran a speed test on mine and got 4mps down.
However in a different location he got 6 and I got 24 . Also huffington post is the worst news source ever.
I just decided to read that article, I don't know if I believe it or not. Also, I don't care enough to do more research.
stkiswr said:
I'm in Warner robins, GA and we are patiently waiting to see if 4g is gonna get here on the 19th like we have been rumored. They were testing last month. What kinda speeds are you seeing?
I have also been told they patched up the unlimited data hack in early may
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I honestly think this was the roll out that was speculated for the 19th. I do hope you still get 4g soon tho. At my house I am getting 13-17mbps. But about 5 miles from here a coworker was pulling 35+mbps constantly.
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My cousin has one, I was looking at it and in the status bar, right next to the signal indicator, it said 4g. we ran a speed test and got 9mbps down, I ran a speed test on mine and got 4mps down.
However in a different location he got 6 and I got 24 . Also huffington post is the worst news source ever.
I just decided to read that article, I don't know if I believe it or not. Also, I don't care enough to do more research.
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Yes, there is no LTE in any IPhone, only the new iPad. Iphones can only get hspa+ 4g which is honestly just souped up 3g. The speeds will never be constantly as high as LTE. The verizon version of the IPhone does not support any 4g. You know Apple would market the hell out of it if it did. I'm sure they would also try to brainwash people into believing they invented LTE technology. And then probably sue all Android hander makers for using the technology. F-ing scumbags.
Clay333 said:
I honestly think this was the roll out that was speculated for the 19th. I do hope you still get 4g soon tho. At my house I am getting 13-17mbps. But about 5 miles from here a coworker was pulling 35+mbps constantly.
Yes, there is no LTE in any IPhone, only the new iPad. Iphones can only get hspa+ 4g which is honestly just souped up 3g. The speeds will never be constantly as high as LTE. The verizon version of the IPhone does not support any 4g. You know Apple would market the hell out of it if it did. I'm sure they would also try to brainwash people into believing they invented LTE technology. And then probably sue all Android hander makers for using the technology. F-ing scumbags.
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Agreed and nice! F ATT & APPLE. I say this after having just bought an ipad but I would never touch the current iPhone and need apple products to be jailbroken as well.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/7/2852560/ios-5-1-iphone-4s-att-4g-indicator
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Agreed and nice! F ATT & APPLE. I say this after having just bought an ipad but I would never touch the current iPhone and need apple products to be jailbroken as well.
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I second the jailbroken part. I they are practically useless without it
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Newnan GA finally got 4g... They haven't officially announced it and its not on their coverage map yet, but I was there yesterday and to my surprise I had 4g. They really needed it in Newnan because their 3g network was overloaded. Hopefully they will get Columbus GA soon. Then I will be happy.
oh man. georgia crew
when I go to my property past Benning, when I used to have att, it sucked, I switched after 16 yrs back in Nov to verizon when I got the rezound, now when I leave ATL to head to my cabin, service the whole time. it's crazy.
LOL at iphone 4g...
I'm getting almost the same speeds at my Comcast cable, but with incredible upload speeds
I just joined, so it won't let me post my speedtest.net image - 30.57 Mb/s down, 16.51 Mb/s up in South Jersey.
I got 25 up n 13 down right outside of atlanta
4g network has spread northeast of ATL to the Gainesville area this past month, got 40 down / 20 up near Northeast Georgia Medical Center.
I can't believe LaGrange got it before Columbus! I was stationed at Benning for a while before I got out (4th RTB). Wild, and for all of you posting your speeds, my sig is not my fastest speed, just too lazy to update I have gotten 72/down and 33/up. Change your server, the speed you see if basically a reflection of the server, not the actual speed you may or may not be getting.
And yea, LOL at AT&T, the VA is paying for me to have a One X. AT&T's "4g" HSPA+ here maxes out at something like 7/down for me...
I live about 30 minutes north of Yulee FL and 45 minutes south of Brunswick GA and they both have 4G. I wish there was a way to get a straight answer out of Verizon as to when they will close the gap. When I was in Yulee today I got about 10 up and 10 down. Not as good as some are getting but still a heck of a lot better than 3G, especially the up speed.
My US model (XQBC62) is has having trouble with 5G on T-Mobile. 5G connects only intermittently in NSA mode.
Sony support says:
I'm asking you this because at this moment Verizon is currently the only U.S. carrier that supports 5G on the Xperia PRO model. The 5G network service is not currently available in the Xperia 1 III model and this is why you're getting that issue. In this particular case we recommend you to check with your phone carrier if there is a way for them either to provide a different network service or if there is a work around on their system for you to use your Xperia phone with their service
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The Xperia 1 III phone does support 5G however at this moment the only phone carrier that provides 5G service on the Xperia phones in the USA is Verizon and at this moment they only support it on the Xperia Pro model. The phone carriers still working on providing the 5G service on all phone models they support and that depends on their coverage. I would like to give you a different solution however the phone service is covered by the phone's carrier and the best option you have is to contact T Mobile directly so they can further assist you with this issue
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I would like to give you a different answer Kevin but at this moment the phone carriers don't support 5G service on the Xperia 1 III model and this function will be available through future updates by the phone carriers.
5G isn't all that great yet, maybe never.
More limited range and more obstacle intolerant than 4G. Average users see a 20% speed increase when in range.
Don't sweat it...
T-Mobile has 5G on the 600 MHz Band 71 so their 5G coverage is literally better than their LTE coverage where there's high signal attenuation (trees, mountains, stucco buildings).
It's disappointing to go from an LG Velvet 5G to an Xperia 1 III and start losing signal everywhere.
Does turning Airplane mode on/off get it to reacquire the 4G signal?
May be a firmware issue meaning the phone doesn't react to the signal conditions appropriately.
Maybe disabling 5G if it's possible would yield better results.
I just got a new 4G N10+ in part because of issues like this.
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Does turning Airplane mode on/off get it to reacquire the 4G signal?
May be a firmware issue meaning the phone doesn't react to the signal conditions appropriately.
Maybe disabling 5G if it's possible would yield better results.
I just got a new 4G N10+ in part because of issues like this.
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Like I said, coverage and performance is better if it can do SA 5G.
Releasing a NSA 5G phone was forgivable a year ago, but TODAY? It's probably sucking more power by constantly switching between LTE and LTE+NR constantly rather than just using NR all the time like other phones.
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Like I said, coverage and performance is better if it can do SA 5G.
Releasing a NSA 5G phone was forgivable a year ago, but TODAY? It's probably sucking more power by constantly switching between LTE and LTE+NR constantly rather than just using NR all the time like other phones.
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Pretty much why I decided to avoid this hornet's nest.
Have you tried switching NSA and SA to use SA only?
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Have you tried switching NSA and SA to use SA only?
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That was the first thing I tried after I noticed loss of connectivity without LTE. SA mode disables 5G. I even tried powering it off for a while then powering it back on. Only NSA + SA and NSA work.
I have 5G coverage in Europe (italy) on Xperia 1 III, but it's limited to some cities (not operator) then i switched to 4G only mode.
here operator have NO phone limited 5G, you only need to have coverage
Excuse my 5G ignorance but...I use T-Mobile here in the US. I have 5G all day long if I want it. I rarely use it though because even though speed tests show that 5G is faster than LTE it also uses more battery. Also, there are times that while using 5G web pages load slower and YouTube videos buffer whereas when using LTE I have none of those issues. So while I agree that 5G is more gimmick than anything (for me) I still can connect to 5G without any issues at all so I am not sure what to think about the so-called Sony support answers????
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Excuse my 5G ignorance but...I use T-Mobile here in the US. I have 5G all day long if I want it. I rarely use it though because even though speed tests show that 5G is faster than LTE it also uses more battery. Also, there are times that while using 5G web pages load slower and YouTube videos buffer whereas when using LTE I have none of those issues. So while I agree that 5G is more gimmick than anything (for me) I still can connect to 5G without any issues at all so I am not sure what to think about the so-called Sony support answers????
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There are two types of 5G.
Early phones had "non standalone" meaning that NR was only a temporary booster. The phone shows "5G" all the time but it's only momentarily connecting and disconnecting NR while keeping LTE on. These phones don't know how to use NR by itself or for phone calls. This sucks battery life and it causes stalls in data transfer.
Modern phones have "standalone" 5G. This means that the phone can use any mix of NR and LTE together all the time, including only NR. There's no switching and the phone can use whatever works best.
My T-Mo Velvet 5G got a huge performance boost in cell data when it received the SA update. Lag and dropouts around town were 100% gone . When walking around town, it's on LTE 2 + LTE 66 + NR 71. It can lose any two of those bands and be fine. It beats any LTE phone in stability. (RF absorbing stucco houses around here)
My new Sony has a MUCH faster CPU but it's a step back in cell performance. It's using LTE 2 or 66 (not both) and switching NR 71 on and off for data transfer. I frequently take it out of my pocket and see that it has no cell reception. Signal Check says it has NR 71 and is trying to connect to LTE.
I'm hoping a software update eventually fixes this. Much like the fingerprint reader crashes, this is a shameful launch for Sony.
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There are two types of 5G.
Early phones had "non standalone" meaning that NR was only a temporary booster. The phone shows "5G" all the time but it's only momentarily connecting and disconnecting NR while keeping LTE on. These phones don't know how to use NR by itself or for phone calls. This sucks battery life and it causes stalls in data transfer.
Modern phones have "standalone" 5G. This means that the phone can use any mix of NR and LTE together all the time, including only NR. There's no switching and the phone can use whatever works best.
My T-Mo Velvet 5G got a huge performance boost in cell data when it received the SA update. Lag and dropouts around town were 100% gone . When walking around town, it's on LTE 2 + LTE 66 + NR 71. It can lose any two of those bands and be fine. It beats any LTE phone in stability. (RF absorbing stucco houses around here)
My new Sony has a MUCH faster CPU but it's a step back in cell performance. It's using LTE 2 or 66 (not both) and switching NR 71 on and off for data transfer. I frequently take it out of my pocket and see that it has no cell reception. Signal Check says it has NR 71 and is trying to connect to LTE.
I'm hoping a software update eventually fixes this. Much like the fingerprint reader crashes, this is a shameful launch for Sony.
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Well, assuming you know what you're talking about I appreciate your explanation of why I have stalls in data transfer and high battery use on 5G. Hopefully a software fix is possible and on Sony's radar. I have not experienced any fingerprint crashes nor have I heard anything about that. My fingerprint reader works great all the time. Anyway, thanks for the explanation!
Don't feel bad about "shameful" Sony launches.
Even Pixel's are dropping the ball as well as all the major brands. Too much, too fast...
Android 11 is the worst dropped ball of them all and that comes right from the top leaving the manufacturers with a mess they can't completely rectify. 2021 was a bad year for Androids. Google could have prevented much of this... Android, so secure it's unusable.
FWIW, the Pixel 6 seems to be swilling battery on 5G so most people are just disabling it. 5G was my original reservation on the 1 III, but now it seems less relevant so I'm considering returning my pixel and trying the sony.
Can anyone confirm that 5G radio can be shut down to save battery on the Sony? I'm pretty sure I'm reading that it can be, but want to be sure before I order. If it matters, I'll be on AT&T in the US.
Yes you can choose to NOT use 5G on this phone. I have turned it on/off several times and while speed tests show 5G as faster than LTE ... it uses more battery, and YouTube videos will buffer and web pages load more slowly??? Whereas on LTE none of those issues appear. So for now, at least on the 1 mark 3 - 5G is useless. Sad really but for me LTE runs everything just fine and fast!
Yes, well is any carrier on top of this?
Verizon's 5G rollout is going really... horrible.
T-mobile made this bold offer to boned AT&T and Verizon 5G users.
Anyone else contacted Sony about this? I posted a question here.
If this information is up-to-date, Sony disabled NR SA on all the bands used by T-Mobile.
Sony Xperia 1 III (US) (XQ-BC62) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for Sony Xperia 1 III (US) (XQ-BC62)
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This is weird because only T-Mobile has good NR SA coverage in the US.
I've tried to get customer service to forward this bug to engineering, but I don't think it happened (at least they provided no way for me to track it). And community support link I provided earlier just doing the typical finger pointing to blame the career.
I did a 5G comparison to a T-Mo LG Velvet 5G that does support SA 5G. The Velvet 5G has 10x the download performance but the Xperia 1 III has 10x the upload performance. When walking, the Velvet 5G produces a stable signal from carrier aggregation while the Xperial 1 III drops and reconnects frequently.
hi can anyone tell me if the radio in the pixel 6 is stronger than pixel 5? I'm using the unlock version for tmobile. Pixel 5 is ok but would like to know if pixel 6 is better and if the mmwave from pixel 6 pro is worth it.
(UK based) I've not noticed on 4G the signal showing any better than my Pixel 2 XL, but at a place it would show a low signal my Pixel 2 XL was impossible to use for web browsing, but the Pixel 6, whilst showing the same low signal was useable, not great, but did manage to bring up some web pages, so was able to work better with the rubbish reception.
As for mmWave and is it worth it I will let others answer that question as in the UK its as rare as hens teeth. I think it seems to have only been invented so they could market super fast headline speeds for 5G, and apart from that, has little practical benefit.
I have a Pixel 5a still and from my two days driving around I can say that the 5a has better 5G reception than the P6 so far. No mmwave on my P6 - I didn't want to shell out the extra $100 for ATT variant.
(US on ATT).
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I have a Pixel 5a still and from my two days driving around I can say that the 5a has better 5G reception than the P6 so far. No mmwave on my P6 - I didn't want to shell out the extra $100 for ATT variant.
(US on ATT).
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damn well that sucks
I noticed (two days side by side usage) Pixel 6 reception far more spotty then iphone 12 Max Pro. US Northeast, Verizon Wireless. Both phone used concurrently. iPhone rock solid compared to Pixel. Even my old Pixel 4a is better than Pixcel 6.
YMMV.
I would not go by the signal strength icon right now on the P6. It needs to be tweeked with a software update to read more accurately.
The P5 had the same exact issue last year when it was released.
I don't really see any difference between the pixel 5 and 6 reception. They both are not great. I was hoping 5he January update would improve it some but it just fixed the complete disaster that was December update.
As far as mmwave it is not worth it. The reception on mmwave is so poor and it would cost so much money to deploy. Right now I think it is really only in sports stadiums and malls places where there's alot of people in a small area and also in areas where there is no Verizon FiOS access. Eventually it will grow but I think it's going to be years before it's good enough. They basically have to have a cell tower on every corner and that will take years. And sub 6 5g is basically LTE++
For me signal strength on pixel 6 in LTE networks (no 5G for my country) is same as on my colleagues' phones which at work is around -75 dBm. At my home signal is weaker at around -100 dBm but i stay connected to LTE and don't see any missed calls or inability to use internet. Unfortunately i have not measured signal at home with my old phone (oneplus 7) for comparison.
After all modem in Tensor chip is same as in the exynos chipset used in samsung galaxy s20 series. Sure newest qualcomm is better as well as the exynos in the s21 series but our modem should be pretty good when google learn how to adapt their software to it.
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I don't really see any difference between the pixel 5 and 6 reception. They both are not great. I was hoping 5he January update would improve it some but it just fixed the complete disaster that was December update.
As far as mmwave it is not worth it. The reception on mmwave is so poor and it would cost so much money to deploy. Right now I think it is really only in sports stadiums and malls places where there's alot of people in a small area and also in areas where there is no Verizon FiOS access. Eventually it will grow but I think it's going to be years before it's good enough. They basically have to have a cell tower on every corner and that will take years. And sub 6 5g is basically LTE++
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Verizon and AT&T are supposed to go live with C band today (unless you live near an airport). From what I have read, this seems like the only real benefit of 5G. It is supposed to fall between Sub-6 and mm wave for speed and range.
Does anyone know how to tell if I connected to it?
Whether due to the Jan update or the fact that I disabled 2G on my phone, the signal on my P6 improved significantly. I've never been able to get 5G at my home and now get mid to full signal.
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derausgewanderte said:
Whether due to the Jan update or the fact that I disabled 2G on my phone, the signal on my P6 improved significantly. I've never been able to get 5G at my home and now get mid to full signal.
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Are you a Verizon or AT&T customer by any chance? The were supposed to enable C Band yesterday.
chaimav said:
Are you a Verizon or AT&T customer by any chance? The were supposed to enable C Band yesterday.
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oops, thought it's in my sig. ATT -US
What are your speeds now? I haven't noticed any great leaps in my area, also AT&T
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What are your speeds now? I haven't noticed any great leaps in my area, also AT&T
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I figured out why my speeds didn't increase. It's a very limited roll out
AT&T 5G+ gets a boost with C-Band in several US cities and on 17 phones
AT&T is jumping straight into C-Band 5G with coverage in eight metro areas and support for the network ready on several of its 5G phones.
www.androidcentral.com
I'm on TMobile P6, practically sitting on a tower, right off a major expressway, suburban, about 5 miles from major airport. Using Network Cell app, Playstore, I'm getting 5G about ⅔ of the time, average download speed, 300 Gbps. I'm using Speed Check & FCC for those tests though. The beta speed test in Network Cell is not quite ready for primetime. The rest of the app, is well developed, and been around for many years. Best speed from my previous device, LG V40 thin Q was 4G+ around average 150 mbps download. Signal strength around -92 to -102 for the P6, the LG was around -110.