Guys I recently unlocked my bootloader and flashed nitrogen
Scores where around 2.4l and I flashed extreme kernel as well and had a boost of around .2 diff i.e 2.6-2.7.. stock miui global is giving me around 2.9l I know the scores are just numbers... But I'm just wondering why the difference.. please refrain from stating a custom ROM is better or stock.. just need a educated answer to this.. Thanks in advance...
on paper its a matter of optimization but in practice oxygen os port for poco scores 266k on antutu but its gaming performance is better than miui 10 roms which score 299k.
because miui recognizes benchmark apps and enables a very high performance profile (or as xiaomi calls it "thermal profile") which makes the cpu, boost to way higher numbers than what you get on aosp roms... (2.8 vs 2.4 iirc) if you find a way to make the cpu boost that high on aosp roms you can get the same score out of it...
although i suggest you never use antutu for many obvious reasons ...
i found 3dmark sling shot extreme unlimited way more reliable and consistent...
MIUI is just superior in every way ?
Thank you guys for replying this quick..sir ,the discussion is why the difference is scores.. please refrain from saying which is better..I do appreciate your opinion but we are here to hear and give opinions on the topic.. Thanks guys
Deadman26 said:
Thank you guys for replying this quick..sir ,the discussion is why the difference is scores.. please refrain from saying which is better..I do appreciate your opinion but we are here to hear and give opinions on the topic.. Thanks guys
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Both have pros and cons. My first Poco stay with stock 10.2.3, but my daily driver goes to crdroid straight after unlock. It's your choice. If you aware of security, go deep in Los derivatives. I think the performance is result of various factors, like tweaking and optimization. Miui gave me rock solid experience with proper performance and good battery endurance, but my personal choise is Los. Stay tuned.
Regards.
I have another question guys... I wanna use root to use adaway and I'm unable to use gpay.. Any roms that I can do both? Magisk hide doesn't do the trick either
I am with Havoc OS & extreme kernel (without any tweaks) in my poco with ~250K antutu score but just using Evalution profile in thermal profile changer app gives a boost to antutu score which is around 295K.
But sorry this is not the answer you are expecting.
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Hello everybody, I'm opening the thread just to read opinions from you all about the kernels that are currently available.
The one I've been using is void #echo, which in my humble opinion with the combination of a tweaked deadline scheduler and a lionheart governor provides great performance, battery life and minimum lag whatsoever.
I do understand that it depends on needs which shall be used, however, I would like to know which one to you guys works smoother and provides better performance / battery life.
I always aim for performance over battery life (I didn't buy a SGSII to get poor performance )
In terms of battery life, I can get it up to 22~23 hours on battery, using WCDMA only / HSPA+ during day and enabling airplane mode during night.
Fast Dormancy disabled and deep sleep working correctly (XXKL1).
I don't like the complexity of siyah and to be good on batt you have to tweak it more with UV and thing like that ,wish is not my style to make trying/errors on my brand new 600$phone !
I tried speed mod wish is very great actually with great overall perform
void echo is the one Im trying right now ! since 2 days its feel very strong and good on battery with good performance on games without getting the phone very hot
neak is good but its more a copy/past of the overall coders over wish is good in one sense but its a bit laggy in game with lucrative mod but defenatly one of my favorite kernel out there ! Im waiting for 1.3 to let simone correct some bugs
Siyah is the tweakers' heaven. You can fine tune every last bit of your phone.
I personally love void, it feels very fast and has good battery life.
I tried NEAK for a short time and it seemed fine but quite many report lag in games(using on demand governor seems to fix it though).
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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Thanks for the feedback guys, I'm waiting for N.E.A.K 1.3x too
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
siyah 2.6.4.
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as one of the posts above said siyah is the tweakers heaven..haha trust me i never used it before as i thought it was to complicated. but once you have done your reading and read other peoples posts and what they do to get the best out of the kernel you have a winner...all the rest look good i am not saying anything bad but for me from now on any rom i use siyah is coming with me due to the fact it has so many options to it and so much i can play around with i am in heaven
hope that helps...oh and on a side note i have been tempted to upgrade to a different rom but the current base i am using and with the kernel i have and the settings that i am using the only time i will actually jump ship is if one there is a stable cm9 out there by the amazing team hacksung. Two if Gokhanmoral does a siyah kernel for cm9 which i think will be when kernel sources are made available and three cause i have already my voodoo app all configured with my poweramp player to get the best sound possible i would be foolish to make the step at this moment of time...
So my advice for battery speedmod if you are not into tweaking alot with voltages and clock frequencies and if you want the best of both worlds then siyah
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Great feedback bro, I tried Siyah in the past but honestly when I used it I didn't know there were parameters to tweak (didn't check the REF documentation LOL).
Do you get smoother behavior / better performance / higher benchmark scores tweaking the parameters? In quadrant I get around 4604 with void.echo.
as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
Phyxsyus said:
as my "personal" opinion...
since i instaled V3RTR3MA.V.4.0 rom, i've been using void#echo
couldn't ask for more its fast and stable... nothing too complicated and i could get 8186 in the quadrant benchmark... a really great kernel...
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WoW that sounds nice, if you turn off RAWR what's the score?
kimitza said:
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
100% agree most of the battery better and greater speed for these kernels is actually unproven and just advertising bumf .
I have used the kernels listed in the topic and in each case stock kernel has benchmarked better using multiple tests .
jje
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kimitza said:
void echo.By far best kernel for common user,who doesn't want to do all kind of tweaks&stuff.By default is great.If you are into a litle tweaking, you can OC and UV without any issues.
I used it since it was released.No issues at all, battery friendly, great performance.
Trully a KISS principle follower.
My personal advice to all,avoid all roms&kernels that are heavily customized and have alot of useless "tweakes" and scripts on them.The more things on it, more chances of breaking up.
Look for simple builds,as close as it can be to stock,eye candy is not performance.
Jkay makes great themes wich you can apply to the rom.
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I agree with your opinion, and that's the reason why I use only Sammy Stock ROMs
I've flashed a number of roms and kernels in the past few months since May, best combination for me is usually a near stock rom, plus a stable kernel like Speedmod, they just work without needing any tweaking apart from custom set up that's it.
I don't generally like the number of tweaks in some roms but each to their own.
I find stock fine and fluid and stable enough without much problems.
Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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kimitza said:
Yeah..i get 6500+ without rawr and oc to 1600.you forget one thing,ALL other kernels have tweaked I/O scheduler enabled. Knzo says very clear in his thread.it's a way to cheat,that's why this tweak is not default on his kernel.
About rom,look for odexed.tornado2 by brotuck is one of the best around(odexed,pretty much stock,only useless apps removed from it).combined with jkay theme and coid echo...my s2 flies
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
Best kernel so far for me is hardcore's speedmod.
Fast, first time I broke the 6000 barrier on Antutu benchmark without overclock. And great battery life, one full day + charging only by the end of day two, with normal use.
Normal use for me is making phone calls, surfing web and playing games sometimes, not more than 20min per "session". Turning wifi and 3g off when phone on standby. And switching to airplane mode overnight.
And yes I tried other kernels....
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Thanks for the suggestion dude! I'll take a look to it! Beside the removal of stock apps, what tweaks are included to achieve that score?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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None.i dont flash a rom for benchmark scores.i flash it for how it works.those benchmarks cand be tricked,but whats the point?what do you preffer?a rom&kernel with high results on tests,but moves like crap,laggy,fc's with. high battery drain or a phone that is snappy,smooth,fast,great battery life and works properly?
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Don't get me wrong, I do prefer all that, I just wanted to know what things are changed in those roms to get that performance.
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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I have been using void echo kernel these past few days. But I switched to Speedmode because of an issue. My phone gets very hot once I backup my nand on CWM. Also sometimes when I play games. Do you guys have this issue too?
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= high CPU usage .
jje
hey have look at this screenshot..!
The person that provided me this screenshot said that he is developing a new kernel.
But then i saw the score not validated as it was red but then he said would release the kernel to select users and also he said he will be making a video on the kernel highlights.
But how did he attain such high scores???
Holy crap how is that even possible ? Who is this magician ? It doesn't look like overclock , CPU score is less important than our actual values (24000 for 1804 + 1440 MHz)
Need some explanation but wow , wait &see
ol I got almost 100k once on old guyver kernel + eu miui dev with kernel tweaks and heavy debloat on my 2GB ram model k3nzo
but thats the reason I dont trust this benchmark...
Ok so i contacted the guy named Riju and he said his work would take another week to compare before releasing it to the public.
He also mentions the support for nougat rooms and mm miui roms, quick charge 3.0,improved battery performance and better graphics with vulkan api stork
I got higher scores in 3D, CPU and RAM, BUT...UX? Wtf?
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I got higher scores in 3D, CPU and RAM, BUT...UX? Wtf?
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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I got ~88k with AICP Nougat + Radon (stock settings) + F2FS. Nothing more.
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How you got this freaking benchmark?!? I've never got more than 84k! Please tell me what is your setup!
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I am using new LineageOS unofficial (7.1.1), nothing special, stock radon settings(3.4), only set the governor to Impulse.
This totally insane!!
Antutu 6.0.1 could be easily used to have a good score I don't know how, but it's in link with the kernel... I could go to 120K with guyver kernel ... but it's bug is just with antutu 6.0.1
https://youtu.be/uOlOSbLp-J8?list=PLyjrOYSiemcuTICj-NBeqHHXqXuukSoIa
antutu is not a good way to judge device performance.
this score is complete bs... this version of antutu can be manipulated to have this high of a score. tell this kernel creator to run a new benchmark using the latest antutu version and see how it fares.
I flash Vulkan API and android N blobs for SD650, got 86k, if overclock might near 100k, but that's too high in the image.
AIDA screenshot for Vulkan API proof.
Lol no updates yet
Kernel release?
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does numbers really matter? i highly doubt there's a noticeable difference in performance between this guy's score and the typical benchmark score of our phones.
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does numbers really matter? i highly doubt there's a noticeable difference in performance between this guy's score and the typical benchmark score of our phones.
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Performance will feel better for sure. Battery life, system stability, product life and thermals will suffer though. Which do you find more important is the real question I guess.
but why do u want this score overclocking means higher risk of damage an just getting 20000 more wont do any wonders, apps incompatible will stay like that. It is a great phone which in my opinion dosent need overclocking atleast for now.
Hey here is a site somewhere in a European country that makes a fantastic ROM (beats LOS,RR,AOSP). My cell benched in antutu at over 163000. I am sharing the link. Its a site that has lots of useful tips. Just thought I would share
http://mi-globe.com
Hi
First of all this is not a new rom for our device if you just discovered it , no offense.
With all those tweaks that you made as you said in your second post here , i think it's normal that it can go so high. Also , keep in mind that benchmarks are not really relevant and from a score like that you can experience lags in games/apps you would've said they should work completely fine. It's all about the daily experience and how smooth the rom operates in tasks.
I'm glad i'm seeing such a great score on our device and with the miui smoothness increasing in the latest updates on the developer rom , i think it's awesome . A real flagship experience
I flash for it. Over miupro. Without wipes, not to reinstall all programs. More than 110,000 do not work in antutu.
can u please make a install guide?
and how's your gaming experience?
high frame rate, ultra settings without lag?
"they" didn't make it !
its a copy & paste from here : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/8-1-11.42918/
I gave up on it eventually lol. I do not know why there are so few ROMs for the Mi note 2. Gaming was average. I change my ROM about once to 5 times a week. Lack of Oreo I do not understand for this cell? LOS I am trying also AOSP slimrom an DotOS. I would love to try ViperOS or any form of Oreo?
For today I am trying hondajohn88 version of LOS
can anyone suggest an oreo rom and kernel with highest performance benchmark score. battery doesn't concern me i want pure performance.
OmniROM has been moved to stable and the reviews are also quite good expect for some minor Bluetooth connectivity issues with some audio devices, which also might have been fixed by now. If you want performance stay on the ROM's stock kernel, at least for now.
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can anyone suggest an oreo rom and kernel with highest performance benchmark score. battery doesn't concern me i want pure performance.
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if you want benchmarks, then try out stormguard kernel.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...-development/kernel-stormguard-11-08-t3702031
it overclocks the device to 2.2 ghz and for rom you can try any of the roms among LiquidRemix, Aex, Omni and aoscp.
these 4 currently provide the best oreo performance but the stormguard can greatly increase some performance in heavy usage.
(However it totally depends upon your usage, maybe the performance isnt going to be noticeable)
Please note that device performance greatly depends upon your usage, for a smoother performance try keeping a check for the running apps in background, and try to block off or removing the apps permanently which you dont even use
Can anyone here tell me that which custom ROM is best for gaming and on the other hand which provides the most customization
All though I've never tried it I hear corvus os is the best for gaming
gaming roms doesn't exist and they never existed
corvus was never meant for gaming
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gaming roms doesn't exist and they never existed
corvus was never meant for gaming
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I didn't say it was a "gaming rom". But there are people that use it for that because of the performance. Its spoken highly of in that regard
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I didn't say it was a "gaming rom". But there are people that use it for that because of the performance. Its spoken highly of in that regard
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well , in case of performance... i didn't feel any difference regarding custom roms.. so i'm using MIUI right now
Corvus performance is not amazing of course tried on some other phones
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well , in case of performance... i didn't feel any difference regarding custom roms.. so i'm using MIUI right now
Corvus performance is not amazing of course tried on some other phones
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In my experience you can definitely feel a difference between roms. Some are more smooth, some styles are more efficient for how i use my phone. There are factors to consider when choosing a rom. And I've seen a lot about gaming and corvus so that was my recommendation. Are you saying he shouldn't care what rom he plays games on because they are basically the same?
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In my experience you can definitely feel a difference between roms. Some are more smooth, some styles are more efficient for how i use my phone. There are factors to consider when choosing a rom. And I've seen a lot about gaming and corvus so that was my recommendation. Are you saying he shouldn't care what rom he plays games on because they are basically the same?
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all roms use the same kernel so performance shouldn't change drastically. So he should choose a rom according to his tastes, not performance ... for that we have to wait for the custom kernels
All roms use the same kernel?
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All roms use the same kernel?
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Yes , kernel of pixel experience (by Zidan44)
My main question is which custom rom provides the best performance I mostly do gaming Thats why I am asking Plz only mention the rom which is already available for redmi note 10
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My main question is which custom rom provides the best performance I mostly do gaming Thats why I am asking Plz only mention the rom which is already available for redmi note 10
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all roms use same kernel no difference in performance (there is no "best rom")
Maybe one did.
MIUI has some turbo mod in the settings.
It could run the processor in peak performance mode.
So try this.
Actually, first, please define "Gaming ROM", since you're not even clearly understanding what is Gaming ROM, how can u ask for it? Besides, @alonsoj636 was right in one thing, whatever ROM u use, still sharing the same kernel ( until we have Custom Kernel too ), hence, the performance would be slightly different. But one thing that some ROM does have is Boosting Touch Sampling Rate, and that function does help your gaming experience more smoothly.
I am looking for something similar i don't why but the pubg performance in miui 12 is very bad i have 4,64 variant but frame drops are very annoying i guess the sd 678 is not yet optimised for gaming considering its a fairly new chipset introduced in phones
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I am looking for something similar i don't why but the pubg performance in miui 12 is very bad i have 4,64 variant but frame drops are very annoying i guess the sd 678 is not yet optimised for gaming considering its a fairly new chipset introduced in phones
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Yes , is new ... But the SD 678 is a low-end chipset is not meant for gaming... go for the 732G or better if u want decent gaming experience
Yes , MIUI still is very heavy for this device ... need optimization