Hi everyone,
I see so much hype about the Gcam and everyone trying to get it ported but it will never work as it should especially on Exynos devices.
I am wondering why does nobody try to port the S10 camera app? It has some benefits and features (software) that would come handy in our devices and it would be much easier to port as it is something like an updated version of the app which we already have.
I am also wondering why there is no S10 custom roms or S10 ROM ports for S9/S9+? The development for earlier phones is much more active, example S7/edge, but for S9/S9+ the scene seems dead? Maybe because everyone is loosing too much time on porting gcam?
Also if some of you know some telegram groups which have the above mentioned topics I would be thankful if you could post the links to join those groups. It seems that most of the devs are now using telegram instead of forums.
arnes_king said:
Hi everyone,
I see so much hype about the Gcam and everyone trying to get it ported but it will never work as it should especially on Exynos devices.
I am wondering why does nobody try to port the S10 camera app? It has some benefits and features (software) that would come handy in our devices and it would be much easier to port as it is something like an updated version of the app which we already have.
I am also wondering why there is no S10 custom roms or S10 ROM ports for S9/S9+? The development for earlier phones is much more active, example S7/edge, but for S9/S9+ the scene seems dead? Maybe because everyone is loosing too much time on porting gcam?
Also if some of you know some telegram groups which have the above mentioned topics I would be thankful if you could post the links to join those groups. It seems that most of the devs are now using telegram instead of forums.
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Part of the problem is that for the last couple of years, Samsung has locked the America-bound phones, which puts a BIG damper on the whole development process. Locked bootloader= iOS knockoff. At least you can still install a camera APK, though. If you want a custom Sammy ROM now, gotta look overseas, and so many of those are just clones.
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Hi, I have a note 8 and I'm interested to join.
I don't have any time experience before, but I'm glad to learn. Or at least I can help you to test.
I have a S8+ Exynos (64GB/4GB). Though i have no knowledge about ROM buiding but i can help with the testing stuff.
Hey everyone,
I don't no if anyone has noticed, compared to most flagship devices the S9+ doesn't have much custom Rom activity going on for it at present.
Are people actually developing roms for this device as even the standard S9 has more choice for roms to install.
I have the international G965F and would love to see some more options for our device from people who have made samsung roms great in the past e.g. bobcat, allience and so on.
At present I'm running soldiers custom Rom but would love to see more available in the coming weeks which isn't all AOSP based.
Unfortunately we are not going to get the Android P software anytime soon, but more options on Oreo would be great to choose from.
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I would assume the S9 roms could easily be ported to this device, best bet is to talk to the developers about it.
Do you think this device will get custom rom support considering the price I reckon it will the only issue is the device is only available in india that being said oneplus only sells to a select group of countries
It will get custom roms, this phone will be available also in Europe and India.
I am planning to get this device. Earlier I was hell bent on getting Asus Zenfone 5Z which boasts of same configuration as OPO6, POCO F1. But then I saw how there is absolutely no development going on for the device! I am just hoping it doesn't happen with POCO F1.
Edit : https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-poco-f1-developer-community/
Sounds promising. It's upto the developers now if they think this device deserves some Custom ROMs love ?
Easier bootloader unlocking, Kernel sources on Day 1 and Flagship specs at the cheapest available price... Surely it will get Custom ROMs once a few flash sales are over and the device ends up in a few experienced developers' hands... It surely will be the Best selling SD845 mobile in India for the coming months since other competing phones are a bit old and costly... Expect to have really healthy development considering Xiaomi phones generally have a very active community for Custom ROMs...
Dang. I just bought a mint condition Oneplus 5T for $320. Did I make the wrong decision? xD
This thing will get a lot of custom roms!
I'll be honest. The best hope this device has is Indian developers. Mostly because they will need VOLTE which is not open source. Also most of the main developers for the major teams are based in the US where this device will not be, meaning that US devs wont be getting it, nor has xiaomi been forgiven by most of the devs here on XDA.
I think by the end of next month there will be lot of custom roms for Poco F1. Good gesture from Xiaomi. Supporting developer community.
No question about that, custom ROMs are coming, definitely. Just think about this - the max 2 has already been treble-ized and a custom ROM based on android 9 is in development.
Xiaomi will be releasing GSIs for this which will be very easily kangd into custom ROMs. No good reason why there won't be loads of development
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Xiaomi will be releasing GSIs for this which will be very easily kangd into custom ROMs. No good reason why there won't be loads of development
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There is a difference in custom roms and development. They are not the same. Xiaomi always has roms. But none are developing on the device or working directly for that device.
Also the gsi don't do any good. Not for custom roms. Those will be still have to be built per device.
zelendel said:
I'll be honest. The best hope this device has is Indian developers. Mostly because they will need VOLTE which is not open source. Also most of the main developers for the major teams are based in the US where this device will not be, meaning that US devs wont be getting it, nor has xiaomi been forgiven by most of the devs here on XDA.
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Those in NA might import it, but the deciding factor will likely be availability of source, and 3G/LTE band support on global variant. Americans don't incur an "import" fee/tax like in other countries, so price shouldn't be an issue.
Kernel source is due for release on August 29th.
Reportedly compatible with the following US networks (covering most bases, I reckon):
T-Mobile 3G, T-Mobile 4G, AT&T 4G, Plateau Wireless 3G, Union Wireless 3G, Viaero Wireless 3G, West Central Wireless 3G, U.S. Cellular 4G, Verizon 4G, C Spire 4G, ClearTalk 4G, iWireless 4G, Limitless Mobile 4G, Mosaic Telecom 4G
This phone is treble enabled, so you can directly flash GSI on this and will work flawlessly (as far i think)
I will try android pie gsi as someone releases treble enabled twrp for it. It will be on xda as soon people started getting phones
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I'll be honest. The best hope this device has is Indian developers. Mostly because they will need VOLTE which is not open source. Also most of the main developers for the major teams are based in the US where this device will not be, meaning that US devs wont be getting it, nor has xiaomi been forgiven by most of the devs here on XDA.
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Unavailability in US has been the case for almost all Xiaomi phones but the thing is Xiaomi mobiles in XDA has one of the most active development... Many device has recieved unofficial Treble ports and already about 10 or more device has working Android Pie builds... Considering Poco F1's price and specs it shouldn't be a surprise if it ever has the most active development in XDA...
I think many Indian devs are good as any other devs outside. And even if the phone is launching in India only, many devs living outside would also try to get there hands on global version because of how much this phone offers for the price. Also Xiaomi releasing kernel source is a great move to motivate devs and upcoming devs to build custom roms.
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Unavailability in US has been the case for almost all Xiaomi phones but the thing is Xiaomi mobiles in XDA has one of the most active development... Many device has recieved unofficial Treble ports and already about 10 or more device has working Android Pie builds... Considering Poco F1's price and specs it shouldn't be a surprise if it ever has the most active development in XDA...
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Getting ports is not development.
Price doesn't mean much in many places.
You are right. It has been and that is why none of the main developers of teams ever get the device.
I still have hope for this oem but we will see. They have a lot to make up for here with developers.
As for the most development. That sadly will belong to the pixel line. Which is what all the top developers get.
zelendel said:
Getting ports is not development.
Price doesn't mean much in many places.
You are right. It has been and that is why none of the main developers of teams ever get the device.
I still have hope for this oem but we will see. They have a lot to make up for here with developers.
As for the most development. That sadly will belong to the pixel line. Which is what all the top developers get.
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In India, price means a lot... That is why most Apple has such a bad market in India and companies like Xiaomi with value for money products have such a huge market here... There are really skilled Indian Developers who opt to buy such cheap but Good devices...
They themselves stated about bootloader unlocking and custom ROM flashing in the launch event... Xiaomi is one of those very few companies who encourage rooting and stuffs without voiding the warranty...
In My personal experience, Xiaomi devices have very strong community support in XDA, I personally have Redmi 3S, Redmi Note 5 Pro and Redmi 5A... My Friends have a wide range of Redmi devices and They all have a Great custom ROM supply...
Its all from My knowledge and thoughts, just a healthy change of idea...
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In India, price means a lot... That is why most Apple has such a bad market in India and companies like Xiaomi with value for money products have such a huge market here... There are really skilled Indian Developers who opt to buy such cheap but Good devices...
They themselves stated about bootloader unlocking and custom ROM flashing in the launch event... Xiaomi is one of those very few companies who encourage rooting and stuffs without voiding the warranty...
In My personal experience, Xiaomi devices have very strong community support in XDA, I personally have Redmi 3S, Redmi Note 5 Pro and Redmi 5A... My Friends have a wide range of Redmi devices and They all have a Great custom ROM supply...
Its all from My knowledge and thoughts, just a healthy change of idea...
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They are doing the same thing OEM have done before. Not to mention that they require to unlock the bootloader is bs.
To be honest, the only reason most devs even get the device is because xda buys it for them. That is why Franco supports the OEM.
I understand that is the way it is in India. That is why I said that it will most likely be developers from there that will need to focus on development. Not to mention that VOLTE is really needed in India and not anywhere else. Nor is it part of open source. So that will take an Indian dev to work on or there will be thousands of posts asking why VOLTE doesnt work. I talked to a few of the lead devs from different teams about the device and I got the same answer from all of them, they have zero interest in the device let alone the OEM. So one of their users will have to get the device and maintain it. Hell most wont even support this oem officially. But then you really cant blame the devs after what this company has done here.
I cant say about the device as I know zero people with the device and there is less then 1% chance that I even know anyone with the device form the OEM. But that could also be part of my job as they are banned along with ZTE and hauwei.
No 9.0 PIE ports for sd845?
I checked some sd845 phones like op6, mix2s, 5z, they dont have any custom roms based on 9.0. And they dont have too much custom roms like redmi note 5 pro or a1 etc. Can somebody guide me ??
Hello guys, I want to discuss that. Note 8 is my 3rd phone. I was using Samsung Galaxy s2 and HTC One m7. When I was using these devices there were lots of roms, mods, kernels, discussion topics and devdb threads. For example HTC One m7 had so much roms with a huge variety like miui, aosp, gpe port, stock modified, flyme, xosp etc. Maybe some of us thinks these roms are garbage. Maybe it's true, maybe not but there is not much development for N8 and I'm confused. N8 is a still brillant phone and it's nearly 1 year old. So what are you thinking about it? Why there is not enaugh development for N8? Let's discuss it..
Exynos CPUs for most markets.
Snapdragons comes with a locked bootloader so no development there. Well few touchwiz roms (if you are on a bootloader version that's rootable.)
Exynos samsung doesn't release all the source code (if any) so harder to code for.
Note 8 was expensive and hard to develop for so most went to one plus and not as popular as the galaxy S series.
Is there anything that predicts developers will take more interest in the Galaxy S23 range, so we can finally have a custom ROM scene for Galaxy?
Maybe because the S23 (all devices: S23, S23 Ultra, S23 Plus) ditch Exynos in favour of a Qualcomm SM8550-AC, an S23-exclusive version of the Snapdragon 8 Gen 2
Did we need a change of wind to make things turn out differently for this device versus earlier Galaxy S ranges? I really hope it's time for renewal, as if im not wrong, the last one that had a nice ROM scene & development going on was the Galaxy S5+ which is so many years ago..
I am talking about a sizable custom ROM scene (all recent devices were dealt a bad hand, or completely lacked it) and the least that would make me very happy: the entry of LineageOS, something that's not been there for years, surely for reasons.
Due to having been away from Galaxy as a result of the lack of ROM scenes in prior devices, I am out of the loop regarding Samsung Galaxy platforms for development support, can anyone state what the main things holding it back have been in recent years? Things being locked down too much, like with other major brands? For what the main blockers are, is there reason to believe that the S23, or the move from Exynos to Qualcomm chips on the other hand, will make a difference? Because as far i know, Qualcomm is the proficient & preferred platform for most devs.
Well as much as Samsung makes everything depend on Knox not being tripped, I doubt it.
I noticed that something may be ongoing when it comes to custom ROM (LineageOS, chipset) work for Galaxy S23+, see: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lineageos-progress.4582781/
Development there can benefit S23 Ultra vice versa, as it's similar and also sm8550-ac, who knows if that person succeeds they'll move on to S23 Ultra afterwards. I know it's speculation, but in my book these are hopeful signs.
Rom scene has been dull on this side due to Samsung Crippling devices when rooted (Knox being permanently tripped - hence killing resale value) and Dev's losing interest in Samung. We have 2 roms and 2 devs actively supporting the development here which is nothing like the Galaxy S5 or Note 4 Days.
Aside to the above, The stock devices are so good, that there's nothing more you can achieve by rooting which can outweigh the cons of rooting.
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... We have 2 roms and 2 devs actively supporting the development here...
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There exist at least 2 other very good and stable Roms with lots of mods for the Ultra.
ATN Rom and VN Rom.
just noticed this thread about gsis on the s23 range : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/how-to-gsi-on-s23-ultra.4564249/#post-88279455 (seems to be interesting)
(also noticed a discussion on installing other gsis on the xiaomi 13 : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/xiaomi-13-gsi.4572035 )
seems to be interesting to me ... maybe I ll buy an S23 to try (I saw a used one that was not too expensive) but maybe I am not avanced enough to succeed
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seems to be interesting to me ... maybe I ll buy an S23 to try (I saw a used one that was not too expensive) but maybe I am not avanced enough to succeed
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Nice, i was mainly interested in LineageOS/for development to get going on something like the latest Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (sm8550) chipsets, if only we can get a flagship from today in the best possible software package which is where i won't settle for anything less than LineageOS. Not in any case, no matter how good the stock ROM is - it's about freedom, control, privacy & security - where in LOS everything is opensource and auditable (as opposed to OEM.. you don't know what may be running and how secure it is). Not to speak of even faster security patch levels than from any vendor. I also believe you won't feel the true power of your high end hardware until you're running an OS that's practically as clean as AOSP, such as LOS. It's like people dont know any better, and that raw performance (flagships..) offsets your perception anyways.
Since this topic, i've set my gaze on a new device with the same chipset (sm8550) as the Galaxy S23 range - the Motorola Edge 40 Pro, a flagship.. even if chaptsand (as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lineageos-progress.4582781/) can pull it off for Galaxy, i found a way to kickstart the effort for Moto Edge 40 Pro as well, by sponsoring it and bringing a few devs together. If you're interested in that effort, read some comments before and after this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-motorola-edge-30-dubai.4536169/post-88509185, and it still has to be moved into its own topic. But if that gets accomplished and for Galaxy it doesn't turn out well, at least ill have something to recommend to anyone that wants LineageOS on a latest tech flagship. For those that think like me, and won't ever settle for less.
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Since this topic, i've set my gaze on a new device with the same chipset (sm8550) as the Galaxy S23 range - the Motorola Edge 40 Pro, a flagship.. even if chaptsand (as per https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lineageos-progress.4582781/) can pull it off for Galaxy, i found a way to kickstart the effort for Moto Edge 40 Pro as well, by sponsoring it and bringing a few devs together. If you're interested in that effort, read some comments before and after this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-motorola-edge-30-dubai.4536169/post-88509185, and it still has to be moved into its own topic. But if that gets accomplished and for Galaxy it doesn't turn out well, at least ill have something to recommend to anyone that wants LineageOS on a latest tech flagship. For those that think like me, and won't ever settle for less.
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thanks ! very interesting and generous from you !!
but I must say I am more interested in a hardware with a "flater" screen than the Edge 40 Pro.
an inconvenience with the S23 is that you are losing OTA with stock rom if you root it ( https://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-unlock-bootloader-root-magisk-samsung-galaxy-s23/ )
so, unless there is some AOSP rom with updates for the S23, it seems safer to me to go for the Xiaomi 13 (after I had a look at this guide : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...bootloader-root-flash-twrp-flash-rom.4538433/ ) ... or maybe I ll go for the Poco F5 pro 12/256 as it should start with an early bird price of 499E tomorrow, although it s an SD 8+ gen 1 instead of an SD 8 gen 2 (oh it will be 479E with the 20E coupon on https://ams.event.mi.com/fr/poco-f5-series-product-launch ) ...
good luck !