I have a V30S. As of now, I have never received an update for it. I am running it with stock software version us99820a and security - March 1, 2018.
This seems odd, and every time I check for updates, I get told I am up to date.
Is this right, or is there a problem with my phone not getting updates?
1031982 said:
I have a V30S. As of now, I have never received an update for it. I am running it with stock software version us99820a and security - March 1, 2018.
This seems odd, and every time I check for updates, I get told I am up to date.
Is this right, or is there a problem with my phone not getting updates?
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You can manually update. We have all the KDZ posted here. Takes 5 minutes.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99820a040330-kdz-t3786337
There are reasons why you may not be receiving OTA, none of which you can fix -- except by manually updating yourself.
I do that with my wife's US998, which is still pure stock.
ChazzMatt said:
You can manually update. We have all the KDZ posted here. Takes 5 minutes.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/development/us998-lg-v30-us998-us99820a040330-kdz-t3786337
There are reasons why you may not be receiving OTA, none of which you can fix -- except by manually updating yourself.
I do that with my wife's US998, which is still pure stock.
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I'm confused as to which file to download. I assume the first file, US99820g_01_0110.kdz?
I am confused as I'm not sure if the letter at the end is something I need to have maintained. I have US99820a.
Will I ever be able to get software updates OTA, or is this just something I have to deal with?
Also, this won't wipe the phone, will it?
1031982 said:
I'm confused as to which file to download. I assume the first file, US99820g_01_0110.kdz?
I am confused as I'm not sure if the letter at the end is something I need to have maintained. I have US99820a.
Will I ever be able to get software updates OTA, or is this just something I have to deal with?
Also, this won't wipe the phone, will it?
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If you make sure you choose "Upgrade", using the LGUP attached to that post, no it won't wipe it.
Yes, US998 20G KDZ is newest. Newest at top down to oldest. If you scroll down that page, it's starts with 20A (earliest US998 Oreo)
Where did you get your phone? If you say used, off eBay or even "new" off eBay, there's nothing "wrong" with your phone except you're not going to get OTA updates.
I can tell you more and give you probable reason -- but it doesn't explain why my wife's phone doesn't receive OTA updates. Doesn't matter, manually updating takes 5 minutes.
Going from 20A to 20G is a big jump. A lot of audio changes in 20F and 20G. Some people have to go to 20E first, then 20F, then 20G.
Remember the "Upgrade" part! In this case, you do NOT want "Refurbish" which is the LGUP default choice. I did that accidentally with my wife's phone one time, trying to multitask and didn't pay attention.
You can try just going straight to 20G, if you feel lucky. If you have no audio, don't panic. Flash back to 20E, then go to 20F, then 20G.
After this, you won't have to worry about that, as you will always just have to flash the next one that comes out. You won't ever be this far behind again.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
Where did you get your phone? If you say used, off eBay or even "new" off eBay, there's nothing "wrong" with your phone except you're not going to get OTA updates.
I can theorize more to you and give you probable reason -- but it doesn't explain why my wife's phone doesn't receive OTA updates. Doesn't matter, manually updating takes 5 minutes.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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I ordered it from B&H Photo, brand new. That's is why I am confused, (and concerned) as to why I wouldn't get OTA updates. I got off the phone with support about it and they said to use the LG Bridge app. That was useless (as I expected).
Seems like going from A to E, then F, and finally G would be safest.
1031982 said:
I ordered it from B&H Photo, brand new. That's is why I am confused, (and concerned) as to why I wouldn't get OTA updates. I got off the phone with support about it and they said to use the LG Bridge app. That was useless (as I expected).
Seems like going from A to E, then F, and finally G would be safest.
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Three of my US998 V30/V30+ are also from B&H Photo. While mine is bootloader unlocked and rooted, my wife's daily phone is pure stock. We received one Nougat update January 2018. Ever since then, I've manually updated hers.
I do just what I told you to... install the LGUP, download the KDZ, connect the phone, select the KDZ, choose "Upgrade" and start. Once you hit start, takes about 5 minutes.
After that, check back here every couple of months to do it again.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
Three of mine are also from B&H Photo. While mine is bootloader unlocked and rooted, my wife's daily phone is pure stock. We received one Nougat update January 2018. Ever since then, I've manually updated hers.
I do just what I told you to... install the LGUP, download the KDZ, connect the phone, select the KDZ, choose "Upgrade" and start. Once you hit start, takes about 5 minutes.
After that, check back here every couple of months to do it again.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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So it would seem that there is some weird glitch with this phone then. Really weird, and annoying. Support said it was the carrier that decides when to update, I know that's not true for unlocked phones.
I guess it's manual updating. Not a good way to start with an unlocked phone.
1031982 said:
So it would seem that there is some weird glitch with this phone then. Really weird, and annoying. Support said it was the carrier that decides when to update, I know that's not true for unlocked phones.
I guess it's manual updating. Not a good way to start with an unlocked phone.
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Right, with carrier unlocked it's the OEM -- in this case, LG. We run ours on AT&T, but AT&T has nothing to do with updating our phones.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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1031982 said:
So it would seem that there is some weird glitch with this phone then. Really weird, and annoying. Support said it was the carrier that decides when to update, I know that's not true for unlocked phones.
I guess it's manual updating. Not a good way to start with an unlocked phone.
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I actually don't mind. I believe full image KDZ is better than partial image OTA.
ChazzMatt said:
Right, with carrier unlocked it's the OEM -- in this case, LG. We run ours on AT&T, but AT&T has nothing to do with updating our phones.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Same here, on AT&T.
ChazzMatt said:
I actually don't mind. I believe full image KDZ is better than partial image OTA.
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It's purely for convince to get OTA, but doing it manually is more secure in that there is less likely going to be an issue.
Thank you very much for the quick response, and linking to the files. Got it updated to E, and now I'm downloading F and G.
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So I spent over two hours trying to get the ATT visual vm app working on my v30+. (Unlocked b&h). Every tech support guy thought fore sure they could get it going, to no avail. Can anyone recommend an app or solution that works? I figure it can't be that hard. (But what do I know?)
Thanks in advance!
You installed the app and it doesn't work, or you can't even install the app?
People have downloaded from apkmirror and gotten it to work.
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/att-services-inc/att-visual-voicemail/
Also, see this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/att-visual-voicemail-t3490472
Sent from my official open market LG US998 V30+
Thanks for your replies to my dumb queries, Chaz. I downloaded the app, it won't work with the v30+ (but will supposedly work with the v30, which ATT sells.
In addition, the app in your link says 'This phone is incompatible with this service' and won't let me download it...
Rideit12 said:
Thanks for your replies to my dumb queries, Chaz. I downloaded the app, it won't work with the v30+ (but will supposedly work with the v30, which ATT sells.
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Interesting, since the only real difference between the two is more internal storage.
When I went to AT&T, I had them register my phone as THEIR V30, since that phone is in their database. But that is something to suggest to them.
Although I use AT&T, I don't use their voicemail so I don't if this app works with my V30+.
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In addition, the app in your link says 'This phone is incompatible with this service' and won't let me download it...
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Let me see if I can find another link. I saw one over in another thread.
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
ChazzMatt said:
Interesting, since the only real difference between the two is more internal storage.
When I went to AT&T, I had them register my phone as THEIR V30, since that phone is in their database. But that is something to suggest to them.
Although I use AT&T, I don't use their voicemail so I don't if this app works with my V30+.
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Let me see if I can find another link. I saw one over in another thread.
Sent from my official carrier unlocked LG V30+ US998
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Uhmm, found it but same link. This guy got it to work, but maybe he has a US998 V30. I really don't know why it wouldn't work with US998 V30+.
Received US998 Unlocked from BH PHOTO
debugger919 said:
It's the AT&T visual voicemail app, I downloaded it from https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/att-services-inc/att-visual-voicemail/ it works the same as the one on my other AT&T branded phones.
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The APK doesn't work with my V30+ from B&H either.
It installs just fine, and my first boot up of it seems fine too. I'm able to see and delete the default "Welcome to AT&T Visual Voicemail" vm message that the app generates.
But if I close the app and try to reopen it, it just hangs at a blank screen, completely frozen until I force close it.
Additionally, every time I reboot my phone, within seconds, I get a notification of that same stock "Welcome to AT&T Visual Voicemail" vm message.
If I click on the notification, it attempts to open up the app, and causes the same hang mentioned above.
If I delete the app and reinstall the APK, it'll once again appear to work for that first time I open it up. But nah, it's still broken.
Personally, I think AT&T just needs to update the app to support the phone.
I remember it took AGES for them to finally release (via Google Play) a version of the app that would actually install and work on my old 2015 Moto flagship (which I ordered straight from Moto instead of getting from AT&T).
I suspect we're looking at a similar situation here; though I can't imagine why it'd work on the open market V30 but not the open market V30+.
ChazzMatt said:
Uhmm, found it but same link. This guy got it to work, but maybe he has a US998 V30. I really don't know why it wouldn't work with US998 V30+.
Received US998 Unlocked from BH PHOTO
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yea that's me... btw the app version I'm using is 4.2.0.0028, never tried to update it since it's working as is.
So I just chatted with an AT&T customer service rep, and he indicated that I should be able to take my phone into an AT&T store, request that they sync up my device with their systems, and that should allow me to download and use the AT&T Visual Voicemail app from the Google Play Store. I don't have time to head over to a store today, nor will I tomorrow (big storm a-comin'), but I figured I'd post here to see if anyone knew anything about this process. I'll post back with my results later this week if no one beats me to it.
Just an FYI... I ran into a similar issue with Verizon's voicemail app. What I learned was that there's some security thing that Verizon does... Something like removing some key files from the APK. From my limited understanding on an official Verizon phone they install those missing files on the locked down ROM and the APK then installs fine... But if you buy a phone that's not officially supported... Such as our us998 unlockable phone... Then you don't get those files in the ROM... Which makes the APK say it's not compatible.
Due to this I had to setup Google Voice to get visual voicemail (by forwarding my voicemail to my GV number)
This is Verizon and not ATT though... And I would certainly like to be wrong and be very happy if someone managed to get Verizon's voicemail app working on a us998.
So, fun story! I bricked my AT&T V20! It got really hot during use, so i shut it off to cool off, went to turn it back on, and its "stuck" in some menu with an hourglass logo, that i cant really see because part of the screen is covered in static, cant even boot into recovery. So, i went to insurance, and theyre sending me an AT&T v30 as a replacement.
On to my questions;
What are some MUST KNOW tips that i should be aware of?
Where are we at with root?
Bootloader unlocked yet?
Any rom's you recommend?
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
So, fun story! I bricked my AT&T V20! It got really hot during use, so i shut it off to cool off, went to turn it back on, and its "stuck" in some menu with an hourglass logo, that i cant really see because part of the screen is covered in static, cant even boot into recovery. So, i went to insurance, and theyre sending me an AT&T v30 as a replacement.
On to my questions;
What are some MUST KNOW tips that i should be aware of?
Where are we at with root?
Bootloader unlocked yet?
Any rom's you recommend?
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No carrier models have root.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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No carrier models have root.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Dang! Any news on how far into development we are with root or is nothing being worked on?
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Dang! Any news on how far into development we are with root or is nothing being worked on?
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Three non-carrier models have root. But LG allows bootloader unlock with full fastboot flash commands for those three.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3745006
T-Mobile H932 guys haven't given up hope yet. There's a dedicated thread for that discussion.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3690577
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75936789
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=75936789
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Speaking of WETA, i was running it on my V20 (H910), and to install it, I had to use the US996 variant which worked fine. Is it the same situation with the V30?
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Speaking of WETA, i was running it on my V20 (H910), and to install it, I had to use the US996 variant which worked fine. Is it the same situation with the V30?
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Yes, open market LG US998, sold by authorized retailers like B&H Photo.
Be careful buying of eBay, as the U.S.Cellular model US998 is otherwise identical to the open market LG US998 but is not eligible for bootloader unlock.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
ChazzMatt said:
Yes, open market LG US998, sold by authorized retailers like B&H Photo.
Be careful buying of eBay, as the U.S.Cellular model US998 is otherwise identical to the open market LG US998 but is not eligible for bootloader unlock.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
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Sorry, what i meant was, to run weta on the v20 h910 i had to download and flash the US998 rom, and it ran fine on the v20, would i have to do the same thing on the V30?
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Sorry, what i meant was, to run weta on the v20 h910 i had to download and flash the US998 rom, and it ran fine on the v20, would i have to do the same thing on the V30?
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It ran fine until your phone fried, is what you meant to say...
redoregon said:
It ran fine until your phone fried, is what you meant to say...
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If you cared to read my post, It fried because it got too hot, not because of WETA. Go be a pleb somewhere else.
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Sorry, what i meant was, to run weta on the v20 h910 i had to download and flash the US998 rom, and it ran fine on the v20, would i have to do the same thing on the V30?
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I answered your original question, I thought... I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're asking. You need an open market US998 V30 to run the US998 WETA ROM.
Are you asking if the WETA US998 ROM will work with other LG V30, besides the open market US998?
The dev @Mentalmuso was trying to make WETA US998 ROM work with the H930 V30/V930G (the other two in the series that have bootloader unlock with fastboot flash commands available), but he stopped because @Whiskeyomega Boombox ROM came back. They share a lot of the same audio mods.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3747290
At least one person with an LG H930 got WETA to boot, but the dev was doing things blind for the European models because he has US998.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
If you cared to read my post, It fried because it got too hot, not because of WETA. Go be a pleb somewhere else.
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Right. ROMs never overheat phones. Excuse my lack of experience in the ROM world.
redoregon said:
Right. ROMs never overheat phones. Excuse my lack of experience in the ROM world.
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Let me explain clearer since you don't get it, my phone got hot because it was in a hot environment, since you feel such a need to come in and be a know it all **** wit. Now sod off.
LyinCakeGamingYT said:
Let me explain clearer since you don't get it, my phone got hot because it was in a hot environment, since you feel such a need to come in and be a know it all **** wit. Now sod off.
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Oh, "it got really hot during use" invisibly included the reason it got hot as the environment. Silly me.
Unless an engineering abl (the new SD835 encrypted aboot) leaks specifically for the AT&T model V30, then you will never have root.
Unlike the V20, where all the models (except the T-Mobile H918) had the same RSA key in the CPU, on the V30, the key is different for every model I checked.
Even if a kernel exploit or some other temp root could be obtained, you have no way to flash TWRP, or permanent root, since neither recovery, boot or system can be modified.
-- Brian
hey i ordered a lg v30+ US998 unlocked online and its on 7.1.2 android version and i heard there is android 8, when i tried to update on the phone it says your phone is not registered yet?? how can i update?
macadacious91 said:
hey i ordered a lg v30+ US998 unlocked online and its on 7.1.2 android version and i heard there is android 8, when i tried to update on the phone it says your phone is not registered yet?? how can i update?
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Been asked a million times. You can update it in 5 minutes with latest US998 Oreo KDZ posted in this forum, once you install LGUP. Latest as of this moment is US998 20H. Some of the answers below are over the PAST YEAR, so you may see older Oreo KDZ mentioned. It's the METHOD that's important, that is the same.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/lg-v30-oreo-t3831950
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/v30-us998-wont-update-to-oreo-t3831951
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/soemthing-wrong-phone-t3917081
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/lg-v30-lg-us998-able-to-update-ota-t3937046
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/bought-unlocked-v30-ls998-t3905647/page2
I would add that you can also use LG Bridge, which is their official tool for backup and phone updating.
https://www.lg.com/us/support/product-help/CT10000025-1438110404543-lg-backup-lg-switch
You can do other, more hacky and sophisticated things with LGUP, including rolling back to previous Android versions. You can also do things you shouldn't and which you'll regret. That's almost impossible with LG Bridge.
TheDannemand said:
I would add that you can also use LG Bridge, which is their official tool for backup and phone updating.
https://www.lg.com/us/support/product-help/CT10000025-1438110404543-lg-backup-lg-switch
You can do other, more hacky and sophisticated things with LGUP, including rolling back to previous Android versions. You can also do things you shouldn't and which you'll regret. That's almost impossible with LG Bridge.
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But you can't always use LG Bridge to update firmware...
* If it's former North American variant converted to US998, LG Bridge still sees the "LS998" IMEI or whatever. So you have to manually update through LGUP with downloaded KDZ. Same thing, you're just doing it manually. (Same reason these converted US998 probably don't receive OTA updates?)
They're still US998, there's nothing "wrong" with them, except manual updates. I just bought another converted LS998/US998 V30+ recently. I think I'm addicted... It's flawless condition, by the way.
* Also, even with native US998, I've had LG Bridge tell me I have the latest firmware -- when I don't. So, again LGUP is the answer.
Good points, Chaz. Until recently I always used LG Bridge myself, easy peasy. But I can see with so many Frankenphoned LS998 in circulation, that LGUP is a more predictable advice.
And, ahem... Yes, you may in fact qualify as addicted. How many of these are you up to now?
But they really are a great value at this point, no doubt.
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And, ahem... Yes, you may in fact qualify as addicted. How many of these are you up to now?
But they really are a great value at this point, no doubt.
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Yeah,
* Mint US998 V30+ is down to $170 now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-128GB-Titan-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10-/183795406681
* Mint Sprint LS998 V30+ is $180:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-LS998-128GB-Titan-Black-Sprint-Smartphone-A-Mint-/192609345150
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Besides my wife's and my B&H Photo native US998 V30 (64GB) and V30+ (128GB) which we use daily...
I have one new (yes, actually new from Wal-mart) V30+ in box, and this recent mint V30+ off eBay. Both are former LS998 V30+ converted to US998 V30+. (Yes, came from Wal-Mart that way.) I tell myself these two are backups, in case of emergency. I probably only need one -- not two -- but I couldn't resist buying another.
I ALSO have a mint 2018 AT&T LG V35 flashed to Google Fi firmware, which I've taken out of the box once. I'm not sure what to do with that. I was hoping we would get bootloader unlock, TWRP, and root for the LG V35. There is some kind of remote bootloader unlock and root available, but not TWRP that I'm aware of...
All the other LG V30/V30+ I gave to family/sold to friends.
iv tried lg bridge and it doesnt work, but thanks chaz, my laptop has been downloading the kdz file i will follow the steps when its done
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Besides my wife's and my B&H Photo native US998 V30 (64GB) and V30+ (128GB) which we use daily...
I have one new (yes, actually new from Wal-mart) V30+ in box, and this recent mint V30+ off eBay. Both are former LS998 V30+ converted to US998 V30+. (Yes, came from Wal-Mart that way.) I tell myself these two are backups, in case of emergency. I probably only need one -- not two -- but I couldn't resist buying another.
I ALSO have a mint 2018 AT&T LG V35 flashed to Google Fi firmware, which I've taken out of the box once. I'm not sure what to do with that. I was hoping we would get bootloader unlock, TWRP, and root for the LG V35. There is some kind of remote bootloader unlock and root available, but not TWRP that I'm aware of...
All the other LG V30/V30+ I gave to family/sold to friends.
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hey can you please help me, so i did the upgrade and its on 8.0 android. the problem now is i dont know why when i try to add the weather widget id press and hold on the home screen then it shuts me out and locks the screen like i pressed the lock button but i didnt
I recently bought a US998 off eBay only to learn that it was a Frankenstein'd LS998; this wouldn't have bothered me except it can no longer receive updates from LG. That coupled with the fact that voLTE probably won't be coming to custom ROMs (I'm using Verizon so I cannot avoid that), I'd much rather have a vanilla OEM phone that gets OTA updates rather than hack my way into an already stock ROM. I figure if I get a VS996 with the Verizon logo on the back everything should go smoothly? If anyone has any advice I'd appreciate it, the specs on this phone are perfect for the price.
Also I should ask, does anyone know how much longer security updates will be pushed to the v30? If the phones gonna become insecure soon anyway, and custom ROMs are a no-go with Verizon, might just have to look at other phones. Thanks for reading.
Nooljaw said:
I recently bought a US998 off eBay only to learn that it was a Frankenstein'd LS998; this wouldn't have bothered me except it can no longer receive updates from LG. That coupled with the fact that voLTE probably won't be coming to custom ROMs (I'm using Verizon so I cannot avoid that), I'd much rather have a vanilla OEM phone that gets OTA updates rather than hack my way into an already stock ROM. I figure if I get a VS996 with the Verizon logo on the back everything should go smoothly? If anyone has any advice I'd appreciate it, the specs on this phone are perfect for the price.
Also I should ask, does anyone know how much longer security updates will be pushed to the v30? If the phones gonna become insecure soon anyway, and custom ROMs are a no-go with Verizon, might just have to look at other phones. Thanks for reading.
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Frankenstein to VS996 KDZ. Manually install updates from KDZ. Gives you total control.
I hate OTA updates. I always update from KDZ.
Even many stock LG phones still have to manually update, like my wife's native B&H Photo US998.
LG promised at least 2 years of updates once on Oreo. So about another year. Nothing prevents them from going longer, the two years was part of Google Enterprise Endorsed agreement.
I understand flashing the kdz myself is more expedient, but if the end result is stock anyway I'd rather get it pushed directly from LG/Verizon, rather than download the firmware from a third party. I don't always have access to a laptop and rely on my phone too much to want to hack it.. usually only bother with custom ROMs when manufacturer support dies out.
Also, if support for volte goes with LG, and there's only a year left, then I'll probably just stick with the Moto g6 I'm using now. Was gonna give it to my mom when her non-volte device stops working but given how convoluted LG wants to make volte support I'd rather stick to something that has more assured longevity.
For now I'm probably gonna return this phone and wait and see where things go.. can always upgrade later.
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Also, if support for volte goes with LG, and there's only a year left, then I'll probably just stick with the Moto g6 I'm using now. Was gonna give it to my mom when her non-volte device stops working but given how convoluted LG wants to make volte support I'd rather stick to something that has more assured longevity.
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Verizon VoLTE has nothing to do with LG security updates. People have Verizon VoLTE since launch in 2017.
But you can always buy native VS996 if you wish.
Nooljaw said:
I don't always have access to a laptop and rely on my phone too much to want to hack it.
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There's nothing unstable about unlocking the BL, installing TWRP, and then being ready for updates that way. With that setup, you can download the TWRP version of the ROM and install that, all without a computer.
As long as the ROM is stock, it won't matter one bit if you have an unlocked BL and TWRP installed. That's how my phone is, as well as my wifes... no issues whatsoever (both VS996 on TotalWireless).
You can do as you wish, of course, but what you're implying (that BL unlock and TWRP somehow make the phone less reliable) is not true.
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I originally bought a VS996 for use on Total Wireless. and wanted to run it stock but the stock ROM would not allow Wireless Tethering which I wanted for my car. So I converted it to US998 rooted it and all is fine.
Can't wait for a Flashable version of PIE. One that works of course.
Nooljaw said:
I understand flashing the kdz myself is more expedient, but if the end result is stock anyway I'd rather get it pushed directly from LG/Verizon, rather than download the firmware from a third party.
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KDZ updates come from LG/Verizon. Where do you think they come from?
I often provide links straight to LG Bridge servers -- but they are slow... So I also use mirrors, but you can check the md5 signature, if in doubt.
However, for my rooted phone I use the TWRP-flashable zips devs create from the official KDZ.
Lenster45 said:
I originally bought a VS996 for use on Total Wireless. and wanted to run it stock but the stock ROM would not allow Wireless Tethering which I wanted for my car. So I converted it to US998 rooted it and all is fine.
Can't wait for a Flashable version of PIE. One that works of course.
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I'm on Verizon, have a LS998 Frankenstein and WTF to VS996 stock firmware. Everything works like it was a OEM Verizon VS996 V30. All the tethering is working and functional on my device. I wonder why you had problems?
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Verizon VoLTE has nothing to do with LG security updates. People have Verizon VoLTE since launch in 2017.
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Right, what I meant was that since stock is the only volte compatible ROM for this device, once they stop providing them there'd be no more security updates as well. Unless someone's able to patch the stock ROM with new updates from Google? I'm not a developer so I dunno how much work that is, or if it's even possible in this case.
@Lenster45 were you getting OTA updates with the original Verizon branded v30?
4stringenator said:
I'm on Verizon, have a LS998 Frankenstein and WTF to VS996 stock firmware. Everything works like it was a OEM Verizon VS996 V30. All the tethering is working and functional on my device. I wonder why you had problems?
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Exactly. All he needs to do is Frankenstein to VS996 firmware. Doesn't even need bootloader unlock or root, if he doesn't want to mess with that for his mom.
Lots of Verizon users on this forum have bought LS998 V30+ or former LS998 V30+ already converted, and used them on Verizon. It's BETTER because Verizon never sold the V30+ (128GB) only the V30. By converting to VS996, you are making your own VS996 V30+.
If you do that, you do NEED an already-activated Verizon SIM card -- which you can use from whatever phone you are using right now on Verizon. Some people have even bought broken glass display Verizon phone cheap on eBay, just to activate a new Verizon SIM card -- then put that into V30, if they don't already have activated SIM card.
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Right, what I meant was that since stock is the only volte compatible ROM for this device, once they stop providing them there'd be no more security updates as well.
@Lenster45 were you getting OTA updates with the original Verizon branded v30?
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If you absolutely need OTA updates, then yeah buy native VS996. If you use converted LS998 you will have to manually install updates -- which I prefer, so I have total control. Even on my wife's phone which is native US998, and was never bootloader unlocked.
But for some reason, you don't want to do that and want OTA, then native Verizon VS996.
LG should provide updates for all V30 for about another year, for their 2-years once on Oreo guaranteed updates. Phone launched on Nougat, but got on the Google's Enterprise Endorsed list contingent on "imminent" Oreo upgrade, which wasn't so imminent. But the security updates clock started on Oreo.
We got Oreo in Q2 2018. That doesn't mean LG has to stop updates after that, but that was the time period they had to guarantee to Google once Oreo rolled out. They also had to agree to another letter OS upgrade, which will be Pie.
My mother has my old US998 V30. She's on pure stock firmware. But I have no concerns whatsoever about security updates running out in another year.
I picked up a V30S and now I have rooted it successfully. However, during the conversion from US998h to VS996k in TWRP, I lost the "S" part in the boot, and now it just says "LG V30 thinq" whereas it used to say "LG V30 thinq", like the attached picture.
I would like to get that back. I liked seeing the "S" part when it boots up, it feels more premium.
The same thing happened with my V30+, it lost the "+" once changing to VS996.
How can I get this original factory boot screen back?
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
I picked up a V30S and now I have rooted it successfully. However, during the conversion from US998h to VS996k in TWRP, I lost the "S" part in the boot, and now it just says "LG V30 thinq" whereas it used to say "LG V30 thinq", like the attached picture.
I would like to get that back. I liked seeing the "S" part when it boots up, it feels more premium.
The same thing happened with my V30+, it lost the "+" once changing to VS996.
How can I get this original factory boot screen back?
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You can't get that back on Verizon firmware. Verizon didn't sell the V30+ nor V30S, only the V30.
You can get original factory boot screen back by flashing back to US998 firmware.
Which is what you'll do when you sell it eventually, but until then it doesn't really matter.
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You can't get that back on Verizon firmware. Verizon didn't sell the V30+ nor V30S, only the V30.
You can get original factory boot screen back by flashing back to US998 firmware.
Which is what you'll do when you sell it eventually, but until then it doesn't really matter.
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I'm looking for a way to hack it into the boot. Like replace the image of v30 with the V30S image at boot
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
I'm looking for a way to hack it into the boot. Like replace the image of v30 with the V30S image at boot
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If you could do that, people could claim to have V30+ who don't...
Good luck with that. Don't brick your phone.
I already know you can edit the other boot, so by the way I already know it is possible to put a boot screen of anything, after the initial boot screen, so your argument is pointless.
As far as tricking someone, anyone can look up the IMEI to find the true model of the phone. Also, you can look at the storage. If you put a "plus" on a 64gb non-plus that would be STUPID since both phones cost nearly the same.
Looking for someone to actually help. I do have the actual phone and I could show my IMEI to prove it. I bought this second phone for the 6GB of ram (I now have a V30 Plus AND a V30S). I looked for months to find one. Part of why I'd like to see the S in the boot screen since I put a lot of effort into finding this phone. I have no intentions of ever selling it. It's the perfect phone for me and I could see keeping it for many years.
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I don't care about naysayers. I already know you can edit the other boot, so by the way I already know it is possible to put a boot screen of anything, after the initial boot screen, so your argument is pointless.
Looking for someone to actually help. I since I put a lot of effort into finding this phone. I have no intentions of ever selling it. It's the perfect phone for me.
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Yes, the V30/30+/v30S are fantastic phones. Congratulations on finding a V30S. A year ago when I was looking they were still too expensive and already have several V30/V30+.
I wasn't talking about YOU tricking someone, I was just talking about in general. Someone recently posted they want to do that, so people would think they v30+ when they only had V30. Don't know why, they weren't talking about cheating someone, they were talking about just bragging about it.
Lots of people have asked what you have, nobody's been able to do it.
Same thing with getting rid of the bootloader unlocked warning. The only way you can that is to do is what you did -- flash Verizon firmware. OR flash partial Verizon firmware -- which is dangerous for other variants because every time you update your firmware, if you don't match compatible firmware you brick your phone.
Good luck in your quest.
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Yes, the V30/30+/v30S are fantastic phones. Congratulations on finding a V30S. A year ago when I was looking they were still too expensive and already have several V30/V30+.
I wasn't talking about YOU tricking someone, I was just talking about in general. Someone recently posted they want to do that, so people would think they v30+ when they only had V30. Don't know why, they weren't talking about cheating someone, they were talking about just bragging about it.
Lots of people have asked what you have, nobody's been able to do it.
Same thing with getting rid of the bootloader unlocked warning. The only way you can that is to do is what you did -- flash Verizon firmware. OR flash partial Verizon firmware -- which is dangerous for other variants because every time you update your firmware, if you don't match compatible firmware you brick your phone.
Good luck in your quest.
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Yes, it (V30S) was hard to find. You can buy it from the LG website for a remarkable $900 (!!!) but of course that's not the real price. Heck they are selling a new V30 (regular! 64gb) on the LG website for over $900! LOL! I love my V30S, but it is not a significant improvement. It's nice to have a little more RAM but it's not any different at all besides that. Speed is pretty much the same. Only difference is marginally better multitasking. Worth it for me, but I wish I had 24GB of RAM lol. Heck I want 1 million gb of ram with a trillion petabytes of storage and a 99999 core neural network quantum cpu but hey that's a nice dream.
Actually, I already removed the bootloader unlocked warning. It disappears when you flash the Verizon variant, not sure if that's what you meant, but I have no warning anymore. Also, I had already removed the verizon boot as well, this is easy with ROM Toolbox Lite (choose "hide" not remove).
To clarify for readers, flashing to VS996 (verizon) from an LS998 or a US998 or even US998R (V30S, my current phone), is 100% safe. I've now done it on 3 phones. 2 of them former LS998 converted to US998 through the WTF method and then VS996. And 1 of them my US998R.
(p.s. you may get easily fixable bootloop if converting LS998 on PIE (Android 9) downgrading to US998 Oreo to prepare for bootloader unlock. You can easily get out of bootloop by holding voldown + power for 7 seconds until reboots, then at reboot logo keep holding voldown and then release power for a half a second and hold power again, then do the factory reset and it will get out of bootloop).
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
Actually, I already removed the bootloader unlocked warning. It disappears when you flash the Verizon variant, not sure if that's what you meant, but I have no warning anymore.
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Yes, that was what I meant. Verizon firmware doesn't have bootloader unlock warning because Verizon never imagined their phones could be bootloader unlocked. . Of all the 20 variants, only stock VS996 doesn't have bootloader unlock warning (that I know of).
So some people who don't want Verizon firmware but wanted to get rid of bootloader unlock warning started flashing just that specific VS9996partition governing that in Dev Patched LGUP -- and someone bricked their phone.
Because they kept using the same Verizon firmware but didn't realize as their variant is updated they had to also use updated VS996 firmware to replace that partition. (Sort of the same reason you can't be on early Oreo to flash current LOS-16 ROMs.)
Anyway, Devs said to stop doing that, it's not worth the risk.
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Yes, that was what I meant. Verizon firmware doesn't have bootloader unlock warning because Verizon never imagined their phones could be bootloader unlocked. . Of all the 20 variants, only stock VS996 doesn't have bootloader unlock warning (that I know of).
So some people who don't want Verizon firmware but wanted to get rid of bootloader unlock warning started flashing just that specific VS9996partition governing that in Dev Patched LGUP -- and someone bricked their phone.
Because they kept using the same Verizon firmware but didn't realize as their variant is updated they had to also use updated VS996 firmware to replace that partition. (Sort of the same reason you can't be on early Oreo to flash current LOS-16 ROMs.)
Anyway, Devs said to stop doing that, it's not worth the risk.
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I agree it's not wise to flash only part of a firmware. Better to flash the whole thing. You can get Verizon firmware to work on most other providers anyway as a bring your own device.
Just keep in mind Straight Talk does not like Sprint phones (you can find out your original model number using LG Mobile Support Tool, which, when plugged in, will tell you your ORIGINAL hardware model number, not your software model.) My friend has a V30 and Straight Talk was a disaster. I would say don't bother with straight talk.
Just use prepaid Verizon instead if you're trying to save money. Activate a legit Verizon phone first and then transfer the sim card into your phone. I was able to get both a V30+ and V30S to easily and seamlessly work on Verizon on VS996 firmware on BOTH prepaid and postpaid plans.
But as for flashing the full VS996 firmware, it will be perfectly fine on compatible models (e.g. LS998, US998, US998R, possibly others but I have not tested).
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
But as for flashing the full VS996 firmware, it will be perfectly fine on compatible models (e.g. LS998, US998, US998R, possibly others but I have not tested).
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Sure. I'm the one who wrote the Frankenstein instructions which came BEFORE WTF bootloader unlock exploit.
All the North American variants (EXCEPT for T-Mobile H932) can be completely cross flashed and converted to another: US998, AS998, LS998, VS996, H931, H933, and H932PR (Puerto Rico).
However, of all those, only US998 has fastboot flash commands.
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Sure. I'm the one who wrote the Frankenstein instructions which came BEFORE WTF bootloader unlock exploit.
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Thank you very much for your contributions! You are making the world a better place.
By the way I'll probably keep this phone until a fully rootable phone on verizon 160g or less weight with a better resolution screen 6.4" or bigger yet not any taller, with better cpu more ram and oled with microsd card slot and a few other specs comes out, and WITHOUT a notch or cutout.
So, I expect it will be years before such a phone comes out. Until then, this phone is the perfect phone for me.
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
more ram .
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This is not a computer. That extra RAM you want, and what OEM's like 1+ are doing, doesn't really do anything for the device other than make it more expensive.
OEM's are only doing it to please the masses.
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