I'm planning on upgrade my iPad Mini 2. And I was thinking to buy a TAB S3 (or an iPad Mini 5).
My usage is 80% multimedia and 20% PDF/Word/Forums.
How well are the updates going? Should I wait for a TAB S4 sale? I'm on a low budget.
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I love mine still. It does everything i need it to
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I just got myself one second hand (incl keyboard cover) and really like it so far... for the full price I'd say no (purely because of processing power and age) but if you can get a good deal on it it's still a very nice tablet.
In my case I did really buy it mostly for note-taking though, so was specifically looking for this aspect ratio. Perhaps for multimedia focussed use the ipad might be better suited? Especiallynif you already have an ipad mini.
Updates still seem to be coming, mainly security though, and apparently pie has been promised for september this year.
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I just got myself one second hand (incl keyboard cover) and really like it so far... for the full price I'd say no (purely because of processing power and age) but if you can get a good deal on it it's still a very nice tablet.
In my case I did really buy it mostly for note-taking though, so was specifically looking for this aspect ratio. Perhaps for multimedia focussed use the ipad might be better suited? Especiallynif you already have an ipad mini.
Updates still seem to be coming, mainly security though, and apparently pie has been promised for september this year.
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I missed the Black Friday deals, 350USD was a good deal. Maybe i'll wait for one on the next months.
Isn't multimedia consuming better at the Samsung because of the AMOLED? My Mini has been great, I can't complain. But I've seen newer models and they look a lot better.
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Bought mine on Black Friday sale 2019 in Best Buy. Went through a few reviews between the S3, S4 and the latest iPad at the time. All reviews mentioned that the S4 upgrade was not worth the price difference and that the S3 was still in many ways a better option. I didn't go with the iPad because even though it was cheaper (around $250 I believe) the storage was just 32Gb (ad the iOS and apps, and your own files and storage is greatly reduced very quickly) and it did not include a pen like Samsung does. I say the Tab S3 is still worth it, I'll most probably root it in a few months to get rid of some bloatware and install AdAway but as it is right now it's running great.
hope this helps
David C.
mantarkus said:
Bought mine on Black Friday sale 2019 in Best Buy. Went through a few reviews between the S3, S4 and the latest iPad at the time. All reviews mentioned that the S4 upgrade was not worth the price difference and that the S3 was still in many ways a better option. I didn't go with the iPad because even though it was cheaper (around $250 I believe) the storage was just 32Gb (ad the iOS and apps, and your own files and storage is greatly reduced very quickly) and it did not include a pen like Samsung does. I say the Tab S3 is still worth it, I'll most probably root it in a few months to get rid of some bloatware and install AdAway but as it is right now it's running great.
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David C.
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It helps a lot, thanks. My only concern was the size, because I really love the 7.9" of my Mini 2. But as a heavy Multimedia consumer, I think that the AMOLED display will be a huge upgrade.
I'll wait for a sale like they said before. I remember that was like 349$ at Black Friday.
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Amoled is nice, but the 4:3 ratio means big black bars with videos and all... No real issue for me, but might be for others. I also rooted mine because I wanted black theming and I couldn't get it done without root (also installed the tweaked official rom which does wonders for battery life it seems).
For me the S4 was also way too expensive, also as it's >10" in display size the office suite is not freely available for it... again a (small) plus for the S3. That and the aspect ratio is ideal for note-taking imo.
The 350 deal, was that incl cover? (Or are you not interested in it... I am not sure how convinced I am of it, it works but is not ideal/great. Usually I just use the pen and use the keyboard cover as protection... normal cover is on the way).
For the normal price (380+ for wifi and 450+ for LTE, excl keyboard cover that's 100+) I wouldn't buy it though. I was lucky (and surprised) to get the LTE version+keyboard for 275 and that certainly is worth it. I'd say ~250-275 for just the tablet would be about worth it for me.
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Amoled is nice, but the 4:3 ratio means big black bars with videos and all... No real issue for me, but might be for others. I also rooted mine because I wanted black theming and I couldn't get it done without root (also installed the tweaked official rom which does wonders for battery life it seems).
For me the S4 was also way too expensive, also as it's >10" in display size the office suite is not freely available for it... again a (small) plus for the S3. That and the aspect ratio is ideal for note-taking imo.
The 350 deal, was that incl cover? (Or are you not interested in it... I am not sure how convinced I am of it, it works but is not ideal/great. Usually I just use the pen and use the keyboard cover as protection... normal cover is on the way).
For the normal price (380+ for wifi and 450+ for LTE, excl keyboard cover that's 100+) I wouldn't buy it though. I was lucky (and surprised) to get the LTE version+keyboard for 275 and that certainly is worth it. I'd say ~250-275 for just the tablet would be about worth it for me.
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Do you have more info for that tweeked rom? Im already rooted. That sounds cool. Im still on the stock rom
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Do you have more info for that tweeked rom? Im already rooted. That sounds cool. Im still on the stock rom
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It's a modified stock samsung rom, so optimized and bloat removed...
I have the LTE version of the Tab S3 so I am using this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/development/rom-sm-t825-tweaked-t3769742
If you have the normal WIFI version, you'll need this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/development/rom-sm-t820-tweaked-t3659433
I did try the Lineage Android 9 which worked fine apart from palm-detection and as I use it mainly for note-taking I returned to samsung based one. (Also tried another android 9 rom, but there fingerprint wasn't working).
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It's a modified stock samsung rom, so optimized and bloat removed...
I have the LTE version of the Tab S3 so I am using this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/development/rom-sm-t825-tweaked-t3769742
If you have the normal WIFI version, you'll need this one:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/development/rom-sm-t820-tweaked-t3659433
I did try the Lineage Android 9 which worked fine apart from palm-detection and as I use it mainly for note-taking I returned to samsung based one. (Also tried another android 9 rom, but there fingerprint wasn't working).
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Great. Thank you
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dagrim1 said:
Amoled is nice, but the 4:3 ratio means big black bars with videos and all... No real issue for me, but might be for others. I also rooted mine because I wanted black theming and I couldn't get it done without root (also installed the tweaked official rom which does wonders for battery life it seems).
For me the S4 was also way too expensive, also as it's >10" in display size the office suite is not freely available for it... again a (small) plus for the S3. That and the aspect ratio is ideal for note-taking imo.
The 350 deal, was that incl cover? (Or are you not interested in it... I am not sure how convinced I am of it, it works but is not ideal/great. Usually I just use the pen and use the keyboard cover as protection... normal cover is on the way).
For the normal price (380+ for wifi and 450+ for LTE, excl keyboard cover that's 100+) I wouldn't buy it though. I was lucky (and surprised) to get the LTE version+keyboard for 275 and that certainly is worth it. I'd say ~250-275 for just the tablet would be about worth it for me.
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1. The offer was without a cover. I was aiming to a TAB S4 that time, and ended buying none.
2. Since you mentioned. How good is the S-Pen? I saw some videos, is not near Apple Pencil but I think is good enough. I'd like to use it with my PDFs.
3. 380usd, € or £? Because the less I see is 420usd.
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1. The offer was without a cover. I was aiming to a TAB S4 that time, and ended buying none.
2. Since you mentioned. How good is the S-Pen? I saw some videos, is not near Apple Pencil but I think is good enough. I'd like to use it with my PDFs.
3. 380usd, € or £? Because the less I see is 420usd.
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2. Perfectly fine imo, and from what I saw on videos it's pretty much on par with the apple pen? Perhaps slightly behind but still perfectly fine for just about everything. I just write with it though.
3. Euros... In the Netherlands in my case.
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2. Perfectly fine imo, and from what I saw on videos it's pretty much on par with the apple pen? Perhaps slightly behind but still perfectly fine for just about everything. I just write with it though.
3. Euros... In the Netherlands in my case.
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They're close, but the Apple one is like using a real Pen. But I'll not be drawing, just taking notes, so the Samsung one will be fine for me.
Ty for all the help.
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I'm patiently waiting for the c6806 but now that the galaxy note 3 is being announced and will be out early October , i might just jump ship and buy the note .Waiting for the LTE version is just painfully slow!
Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
i almost bought the c6802 and live with the 3g connection but im pretty sure i'll be banging my head if the LTE version comes out,blaming myself that i should have waited .
LTE to me is the now technology and 3G is just not acceptable in my vocabulary .
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Build quality & the display is too small.
In the end the hardware pro's (ram, slightly higher clocking, cam) of the SGN3 are not compensating this for my requirements, as the performance of the XZU is still astonishing and i'm using my phone only for snapshots.
But your case is exactly showing the becalming situation Samsung has - people love to buy it anyway.
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100% agree with you in every aspects. I even if was waiting for the LTE version would never go for a Note 3. Those phone only can be compared on the performances. Size and build quality are really different.
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Absolutely not.
I've seen the conferences yesterday, and both Sony and Samsung haven't entertained me.
I mean, Sony has great products but tends to lay them out without any heart at all.
On the other end, Samsung has no innovation at all, but from their point of view it seems they're presenting the Holy Grail to the public year after year.
I have an S3, which is a great device, but on the right and on the bottom the "metal" bezel cut itself for no reason at all. It is 1 year old. And I paid FULL PRICE for this. And by full I mean that it costed me almost as much as a 6833.
I don't want Samsung to fill me with bs telling me the SPen is excellent, that the battery is interchangeable, that this, that that. I already know all that.
And i don't give a damn anymore.
ZU is progression, SW2 too, hell even the SBH52 impressed me more than the N3.
I'm gonna get on board with Sony, and whenever I'll see a guy with his Note 3 I'll say "Hey man, nice phone, I hope you're happy with what you got", not feeling envious, not feeling sorry for not buying it.
Because in the end, what YOU feel with your phone matters, not that extra 0.1ghz or that 1gb of ram.
Let's face it, about 1 out of 1000 Note3 or S4 users will root or even use their device to the fullest. The rest of them will simply feel happy that they can update their Facebook status saying 'I have a Note 3! Sweet! ", until they're not happy again when their friends buy something more powerful/stylish/popular.
I prefer being a 1 percenter, with a device that makes me smile, than being a 99 one, with the regret that I could have bought something more.
But hey, that's just my 2 cents.
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If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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androidindian said:
If you love development.. Samsung is really awful.. Sony is another level man
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There are 2 face on that medal you know...
On one face, Samsung hasn't always been keen with developers, not releasing sources and all, BUT thousands of people buy those, and as a result a lot of developers choose the device they develop on based on popularity, and on the fact that developing there would be more of a challenge.
On the other face, Sony has always been open with the developer community, but their popularity has started to grow big not that long ago, so we might have on the ZU the same level of devs there are on the Z.
As a matter of fact, some of them already started (just take a look on the Android development section), and that is even before the LTE version launched.
Let's wait for UK, US, Germany, France, Italy, Spain etc. all have this device on their shelves, I have big expectations.
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well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
I've been watching the Xperia Z Ultra since it came out, and, it looks like a fantastic phone; I am a big guy, so the size doesnt scare me, but I am waiting to see which US carriers will be carrying it.
I have owned at least 50 cell phones in my life, but mysteriously, NONE of them have been Sony phones, but I think this will change in the next 30 days.
It doesnt seem like there is alot of development on this phone yet, but, since many note 2 owners feel similiar to me, I am certain that there will be a large groupl that will move to this phone, once some US carriers are announced.
The quality of this phone seems fantastic; not sure if no flash for the camera will affect picture quality, and, hopefully, easy root/bootloader unlocking is just around the corner, since the sound from that tiny speaker appears to be lousy as well, but nothing that ViperMod or a different kernel wont fix!
The main problem SGN2 had and SGN3 as per first hands on, pics and vids also seems to have is, that - even if it is already to small for me as an Note 2 user - they're not making proper use of the screen size with view to UI on stock ROM.
In the end the Note 2 was and is just a sized up Galaxy.
And 2nd market (custom roms) is not a criterion on this topic for me, because if i have to customize the the product from day 1 to meet my needs, then there's something wrong and i'll better wait for the right deal.
wase4711 said:
well, after viewing the Note 3 "coming out" party yesterday, I decided I am not interested in it...
I had a note 1, and a Note 2, which was a major upgrade to the note 1.
Fantastic phone, and I was hoping the Note 3 would be a major "upgrade" as well; but, the only upgrades, CPU speed, 3 gigs of Ram, and 13 MP camera isnt going to make the experience on the Note 3 that much better than the note 2.
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Another user on another forum posted that maybe a real change will be seen when all S3s end their contract.
That's true for the S4 (they sold a lot less than what they were expecting), I was expecting it and I didn't fall for that.
That's true for the N3 too, as is a specced up S4 with SPen functions.
It will sell regardless of all this thoughts, but I could bet 1 out of 5 previous N2 owners will buy this N3, and the other 4 will scout around for a better choice or wait for the N4.
That's what I was planning to do skipping the iPhone 4 for the 5 (having the 3G), but Samsung stunned me with the S3 and I jumped ship.
I waited for a big change from the S3 to the S4, but I was ready to wait for the N3 this time.
Sony stunned me since they presented the ZU, I fell in love and that's it.
The only thing that would make me love even more this device would be having a stock-Google Play Edition.
That would be AWESOME.
Last but not least for the fact that we won't need implementation for the SPen, because the screen accept pens and pencils on its own...
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My friend and i were avid samsung users. We both had NOTE 1 then i sold it bought htc one x then sold it again and he too sold note and we both bought Note 2. Note 2 was a great device but design was my only grudge against it. Then in april i bought sony xperia z and now have htc one. And i swore that i wont fall in samsung bad design good performance trap. Currently trying to sell HTC ONE and i will buy Z ULTRA. and my friend too will buy z ultra no more shameSuck for us we had it enough
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nope
dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
corrado85 said:
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dont like amoled, never preffered samsung as a name brand, and i am happy with ZU
although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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Agree.....
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although they did a good job of providing 3GB.. i guess they got more crap to add running in backgrounds
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This
My friend's S4 has no more than 250 free Mb all time...
You clean the memory, exit, return to manage the ram, it has even less memory left... :what:
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Leaving Samsung behind. Time to move on. I love my new z ultra.. build quality is awesome. Note 3 is great, but same old same old except for specs. Each their own.
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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Advertising, advertising, and advertising. Oh, I forgot about advertising.
They could sell a smart ring for your toe advertising it as the next companion for the summer for getting rid of fungus because it has a 5mpx camera that scans the pavement before you set your foot on it.
Everybody would simply love it.
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Nuwidol said:
Pretty much agree with most posts. I've had the Note & Note 2 (using HTC One now) & the Note 3 doesn't do it for me. I really hate Touchwiz. Everything about it annoys me so I've run custom roms on all my Samsung phones. I don't use the s pen at all either so it just sits there.
I like the direction Sony are heading. I would prefer a smaller bezel but I really like the waterproof design & the minimal additions to Android.
I really don't see why Samsung are the Android leaders...
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I actually really like the bezels on my Ultra. Helps to hold when watching a movie etc
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Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
FinancialWar said:
Hell yes...
More portable format, better camera, camera flash, SD card, removable battery, stylus built in, pressure sensitive wacom touchscreen, better hardware and software.
Basically, N3 is everything the Z wants to be...
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Yeah... remind me again why you're browsing the Z Ultra forum...?
You see, you're everything Samsung wants.
Go for it my friend, you deserve it.
Samsung wants to be the next Apple. Good for money at first, but look at the iPhone crowd now... oh yeah, these is no crowd.
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Is it still recommendable to buy a XTZ now given that the nexus 7 has already been released and the note 10.1 has been refreshed? I just sold my ipad 4 and was originally set on buying the nexus 7 but am hesistant because of all the build quality problems.
How is the AOSP program coming along? Are the CM builds usable? What sort of bugs are there?
Thank you
kingofthebraves said:
Is it still recommendable to buy a XTZ now given that the nexus 7 has already been released and the note 10.1 has been refreshed? I just sold my ipad 4 and was originally set on buying the nexus 7 but am hesistant because of all the build quality problems.
How is the AOSP program coming along? Are the CM builds usable? What sort of bugs are there?
Thank you
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I literally Just bought an XTZ 32GB this week (Right after watching Samsung announce the the new Note 10.1), and in the two days I've had it I have ZERO regrets. This sucker is FAST, and the screen is gorgeous!
Haven't used the CM builds yet but I understand there are stable ones out.
kingofthebraves said:
Is it still recommendable to buy a XTZ now given that the nexus 7 has already been released and the note 10.1 has been refreshed? I just sold my ipad 4 and was originally set on buying the nexus 7 but am hesistant because of all the build quality problems.
How is the AOSP program coming along? Are the CM builds usable? What sort of bugs are there?
Thank you
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I would buy another XTZ as opposed to the Nexus or Note tablets, there are too many issues with the Nexus tablets for me and the Note tablets have terrible dev support thanks to Samsung and their lies.
The XTZ is amazing, the AOSP builds have everything working except HDMI/HLL. That's not supported on any device with CM though as far as I know.
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I'd definitely still recommend it!
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I would buy another XTZ as opposed to the Nexus or Note tablets, there are too many issues with the Nexus tablets for me and the Note tablets have terrible dev support thanks to Samsung and their lies.
The XTZ is amazing, the AOSP builds have everything working except HDMI/HLL. That's not supported on any device with CM though as far as I know.
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Are the AOSP builds stable with almost no bugs? how is the battery life?
I'll be getting the 16gb version, correct me if I'm wrong but I can send sms with this thing right? Just no LTE?
Is the battery life that big of an issue?
kingofthebraves said:
Is it still recommendable to buy a XTZ now given that the nexus 7 has already been released and the note 10.1 has been refreshed? I just sold my ipad 4 and was originally set on buying the nexus 7 but am hesistant because of all the build quality problems.
How is the AOSP program coming along? Are the CM builds usable? What sort of bugs are there?
Thank you
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I would definitely buy the XTZ. That's a great tablet, especially for the form factor.
It's brillant to watch movies too. I recently did transatlanctic flights and was happy with the battery drain: only around 15% per movie.
The battery drain is much more important when playing "hard" such as Real Racing 3, and you feel the tablet heat! But I guess this would be the same with all other tabs.
I consider buying it also but:
What about that: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2419767
Does 2x Dualshock controllers work wireless via bluetooth?
buy
IFA is over and you know whats coming this year.
I am using cm10.2. Next step will be a multiboot solution with Ubuntu Touch.
Don`t forget do buy a dock. This is very important->no more opening of the ports (this can really suck)
Color adjustments (white is not Paperwhite) problems at low brightness, bleeding and this torsion problem exist. @cm10.2 i never noticed the torsion problem and the bleeding is minimal.
CM is usable, but i think(know) the SonyUI and 4.2 are a great deal, too.
i would recommend it thou the home screen is still laggy with the 4.2 update
nova etc solve it but cant understand why sony could not fix it
one ques for fellow xtz owners - does appgratis load and open properly on ur xtz ?
Just arrived today ....
I just opened the box a couple hours ago. Fired it up and the battery was at 60%.
Can't put it down.
I was using an HP Touchpad with CM9. Big difference!
I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this tablet!
Tablet is still awesome. I just wish I had a case that was as nice to use as the Poetic Slimline but without the weight... So far none of the other cases are as nice.
Iv used mine for some time now, its a great tablet however I think something like the nexus 7, or Z ultra is more comfortable for me, Im trying to sell mine but here in India i dont know anyone who wants to buy it.
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Tablet is still awesome. I just wish I had a case that was as nice to use as the Poetic Slimline but without the weight... So far none of the other cases are as nice.
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Aww don't tell me that, I just ordered the poetic slimline lol
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Aww don't tell me that, I just ordered the poetic slimline lol
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It's still the best case i've seen by far. Just that it basically weighs as much as the tablet.
FYI
If you are using a case without magnetic lock. you can insert a small magnet inside your case cover. magnetic sensor is located at the left side of the front camera( screen facing you ).
screen will automatically turned off when the cover is closed and it will turned on when you open it.
:good:
Poetic slimline from Amazon
I ordered the Poetic slimline from Amazon and I can confirm there is access to the charging port and the weight factor is no big deal.
Excellent case.
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Aww don't tell me that, I just ordered the poetic slimline lol
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Glad to see so many like this tablet, I'm giving serious thought to buying one. I sold my Asus transformer tf300t, my last 2 android phones have been Samsung, my wife has a nexus 7 and I've never owned a Sony android device. The xperia z is probably the best looking tablet I've ever seen and the video reviews I have watched of it just make me want it more.
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Okay.
If you want a 10.1" tablet I'll still recommend the Tablet Z.
If you're happy with a 7" Tablet go for the new Nexus 7.
Both tablets have the same processor, so you won't really notice a difference in performance.
As for the fact that the Nexus 7 runs stock Android without bloatware, it runs slightly faster than the XTZ, but not that much.
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I ordered the Poetic slimline from Amazon and I can confirm there is access to the charging port and the weight factor is no big deal.
Excellent case.
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Yeah, I heard that was the case with the current stock so I went ahead and got it!
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So there was no successor presented at IFA, which makes me wonder why?
The Xperia Z was announced in January and released in February, now we already have the Z1.
The Xperia Tablet Z was announced in February and released in May, and although it's still a good device, it would have needed the some overhaul (things like IP58 instead of IP57, additional GSM voice communication, 3GB RAM, Snapdragon 800 + Adreno 330, better camera).
I am especially curious because the Xperia Tablet Z is already on the remaining stock list at our mobile network operator and pretty much sold out.
I've never had a tablet before, but I'll get two for free when I renew two data plans at the beginning of next year, so I have some more time to wait and see, but if nothing was announced at IFA, when is the next possibility for a successor to the XTZ?
Hi all!
I have a Note 2 with ATT and will be moving to Tmobile soon and have been thinking about the Note 3 even though Samsung let me down with the lame .18" increase in size after the rumors of a 6" screen.
Now, my concerns about the Sony are...non replaceable batteries. I always have like 3 batteries extra for my phones. No real Spen like apps unless you guys have some already that are similar to the Spen stuff.
Also, I assume there is some multi window feature like on the Note, right?
Of course what I like about the Sony is the huge screen. I know is not the same type as the Note but I think it looks great on its own way so no big deal. I used to tame down the colors on my note 2 anyway.
It has 1GB less RAM but from what I have seen, it does not affect it that much in real life.
I would love to have some OCing kernel as I have always been a tweaker but I will check that later.
I saw Amazon selling them for $450 which is cheaper and even a used Note 3.
Anything I should be concerned about?
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Hi all!
I have a Note 2 with ATT and will be moving to Tmobile soon and have been thinking about the Note 3 even though Samsung let me down with the lame .18" increase in size after the rumors of a 6" screen.
Now, my concerns about the Sony are...non replaceable batteries. I always have like 3 batteries extra for my phones. No real Spen like apps unless you guys have some already that are similar to the Spen stuff.
Also, I assume there is some multi window feature like on the Note, right?
Of course what I like about the Sony is the huge screen. I know is not the same type as the Note but I think it looks great on its own way so no big deal. I used to tame down the colors on my note 2 anyway.
It has 1GB less RAM but from what I have seen, it does not affect it that much in real life.
I would love to have some OCing kernel as I have always been a tweaker but I will check that later.
I saw Amazon selling them for $450 which is cheaper and even a used Note 3.
Anything I should be concerned about?
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I came from the Note, and then S4.
When using my note i did use the sPen sometimes. (not very often)
Mostly for accurate points in sketching. But realistically not very often. The pencil feels better and is more accurate. Just make sure you have a screen protector. As it will scratch the glass.... (and stock Sony protector)
I never used additional batteries, so can't comment in that respect.
I find that the Ultra lasts as long as my S4 did. Considering the massive screen that's pretty good.
With 2Gb of RAM i find that great. I'm a heavy multitasker and have never experienced lag or slow down.
There is currently an overclocked kernel for CM. And works great with Carbon ROM. by krabapple.
There will not be as many ROM's for the Ultra than for the Note 3. Thats just due to marketing and sammy sheep.
I've loved my change from Samsung, and unless sammy do something amazing like the Ultra, I can't see me going back.
Well I dont really mind much about having too many Roms, I usually stick to one or two anyway, specially with Note, I dont use anything but sammy ROMS to keep all the featuers intact.
thanks!
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I came from the Note, and then S4.
I never used additional batteries, so can't comment in that respect.
I find that the Ultra lasts as long as my S4 did. Considering the massive screen that's pretty good.
With 2Gb of RAM i find that great. I'm a heavy multitasker and have never experienced lag or slow down.
There is currently an overclocked kernel for CM. And works great with Carbon ROM. by krabapple.
There will not be as many ROM's for the Ultra than for the Note 3. Thats just due to marketing and sammy sheep.
I've loved my change from Samsung, and unless sammy do something amazing like the Ultra, I can't see me going back.
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I had a note 3 for a week, not to long but to me it was enough to sell it.
The screen of the z ultra is eons better, its not pentile (every review said it was a non-issue, but to me it was noticeable), the colors are equaly saturated, but better, specialy whites, in the note 3 they where greenish and depresing. And the size is perfect for gaming, reading and sketching, i cannot put it in any pocket, but the same was true with the note..
The non repleaceable battery its an issue, the first day of use was better in this one, but nothing compares to having a spare battery for long journeys.
Taking notes on the z ultra was better than i expected, its not a replacement for a true wacom pen, but it gets the job done... I recomend papyrus, it has an unlimited canvas and it recognices the finger as a secondary input when using a pen, so you can write with a pen and pan with the finger, pretty usefull.
ZU stock rom doesnt have multiwindows, a shame really, but you can always try omnirom, its not as polished, but i feel like it will be better with time. If you want to let it stock it has the advantage of showing a lot of apps in tablet mode, or semi-tablet mode, the note 3 behaves like the note 2 in that regard.
For now the z ultra feels much snappier, if i where you i will not worry to much about that gigabyte extra,
Maybe my note unit was faulty, but i didn't have any warranty, and i tough it will be better to try the zu before buying another note, and im very happy with my desicion at the moment.
PD: Sorry about my english, if you have any question feel free to ask me, im on vacations
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I had a note 3 for a week, not to long but to me it was enough to sell it.
The screen of the z ultra is eons better, its not pentile (every review said it was a non-issue, but to me it was noticeable), the colors are equaly saturated, but better, specialy whites, in the note 3 they where greenish and depresing. And the size is perfect for gaming, reading and sketching, i cannot put it in any pocket, but the same was true with the note..
The non repleaceable battery its an issue, the first day of use was better in this one, but nothing compares to having a spare battery for long journeys.
Taking notes on the z ultra was better than i expected, its not a replacement for a true wacom pen, but it gets the job done... I recomend papyrus, it has an unlimited canvas and it recognices the finger as a secondary input when using a pen, so you can write with a pen and pan with the finger, pretty usefull.
ZU stock rom doesnt have multiwindows, a shame really, but you can always try omnirom, its not as polished, but i feel like it will be better with time. If you want to let it stock it has the advantage of showing a lot of apps in tablet mode, or semi-tablet mode, the note 3 behaves like the note 2 in that regard.
For now the z ultra feels much snappier, if i where you i will not worry to much about that gigabyte extra,
Maybe my note unit was faulty, but i didn't have any warranty, and i tough it will be better to try the zu before buying another note, and im very happy with my desicion at the moment.
PD: Sorry about my english, if you have any question feel free to ask me, im on vacations
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Not sure about multitasking need, but i'm fine with standard recent apps switcher on Android navbar on XZU. I like mini apps too, but they are not that natural for me so not very often that i have been using it. In Samsung devices a multitasking pane is required since they don't even migrate to On Screen button that Google recommends manufacturer to move into. Not that Samsung can't do recent app switcher (it's just a long click at home) but such delay to switch app will surely hinder people from using it, so that's why multitasking window is a must feature for Samsung devices. So no, i'm fine with how Sony follows Google and done with it.
To OP, yeah there is a Mini Apps to make you able to multitask, but as i said earlier, clicking recent app switcher from navbar is more than fine to compensate for that multitasking. About Battery, well i came from a RAZR Maxx so it's a little downgrade for me but it's not that bad, a full workday can be handled with it. Not having a removable battery is way of the future i think, so i have adapted into it. But because of that we need to learn to prolong battery life (which is good) by not draining it like crazy. It is best to combine it with Sony's powerbank which is a real slim device so i think no hassle to do a routine charging on the go.
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You feedback was perfectly clear and detailed. I appreciate your input!
I think for me so far the small screen of Note 3..well, I mean really not even .2" bigger than Note 2 is what matters the most because for all the power the device has, I just feel that the real state is not enough to fully use it.
I held a Galaxy Mega and felt that was a perfect size for me so I am thinking that will translate to the Ultra Z as well. :good:
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To OP, yeah there is a Mini Apps to make you able to multitask, but as i said earlier, clicking recent app switcher from navbar is more than fine to compensate for that multitasking. About Battery, well i came from a RAZR Maxx so it's a little downgrade for me but it's not that bad, a full workday can be handled with it. Not having a removable battery is way of the future i think, so i have adapted into it. But because of that we need to learn to prolong battery life (which is good) by not draining it like crazy. It is best to combine it with Sony's powerbank which is a real slim device so i think no hassle to do a routine charging on the go.
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Thanks for the explanation on the multi apps too. I think for the most part I use multis when watching a video and someone sends a message and I dont want to interrupt the video or when using GPS and want to also play some video to keep my passenger entertained for example.
Which of course that big screen will be even better at.
With my Note 2, I have to push brightness to the max some times when in the car holder. I hope the Ultra is better at that.
The sony powerbank sounds like a good alternative if not as practical but still I feel better knowing I got the spare power if needed. :good:
The screen on the Z Ultra is SO MUCH BETTER.
once you use it and look back to your note device you will not believe the different.
The Note screen looks like the Wii on an HD TV compared to a blueray movie being the Z
I am really wanting to buy it but now I just found out the C6802 I was going to get for $475 is only going to give me 3G.
I dont really care about LTE speeds but not sure what 3G will be like for ATT.
As long as I can do Netflix, youtube without issues waiting to load forever, I dont care about having super LTE speeds since its a bit pointless to me.
I chatted an ATT tech and he "promised" 3G is not super slow that he even watched youtube HD videos with it..I am so close to going for that C6802!
Regarding the screen, I used to have a Note and I liked its screen, but I used my friends S4 yesterday and my eyes started to bleed. Holy Saturation Batman!
I prefer LCDs now. They are much more natural and nice to look at.
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These Sony small apps there aren't that many and its not every app like note 3 I've not found a way to have split screen for video and other apps it's all just like a small stopwatch window small calculator nothing interesting. Tbf if I had the money I would have went for a note 3 as my second phone but then this phone is ALOT more premium then note 3 it does feel great it's just as someone did mention support of rooting roms recovery does seem quite small smaller then what I expected but I don't no if that's the handset or what.
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I am really wanting to buy it but now I just found out the C6802 I was going to get for $475 is only going to give me 3G.
I dont really care about LTE speeds but not sure what 3G will be like for ATT.
As long as I can do Netflix, youtube without issues waiting to load forever, I dont care about having super LTE speeds since its a bit pointless to me.
I chatted an ATT tech and he "promised" 3G is not super slow that he even watched youtube HD videos with it..I am so close to going for that C6802!
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i'm on att in NY and I came from note 2 and i don't miss LTE. so far i like watching netflix on the Ultra better the screen is my bread and butter.
my buddy has the note 3 and i was upset because of the lack of "true" improvements like new look, screen size like the mega.
like someone mentioned a few post back is that the Z isn't as popular compared to samsung with the roms, but i don't miss that.
i do notice some samsung guys are on some serious hate with the Z ultra. with the so called flaws of the ultra which justify the fact that the phone is water proof. i'd say go play with it at a Sony store, you won't be disappointed. i guarantee that if sammy made the ultra they would talk the phone up. sammy=apple in my eyes now
So if I wanted to have GPS and say, youtube playing, there is not really a way to split the view other than the small app or using like that supertube app maybe?
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These Sony small apps there aren't that many and its not every app like note 3 I've not found a way to have split screen for video and other apps it's all just like a small stopwatch window small calculator nothing interesting. Tbf if I had the money I would have went for a note 3 as my second phone but then this phone is ALOT more premium then note 3 it does feel great it's just as someone did mention support of rooting roms recovery does seem quite small smaller then what I expected but I don't no if that's the handset or what.
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Don't forget that you can make your own small apps by tapping the up arrow and the plus sign (check the attachment for an example)
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So if I wanted to have GPS and say, youtube playing, there is not really a way to split the view other than the small app or using like that supertube app maybe?
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Nope, not out of the box at least. You'll have to flash Omni ROM if you want it today.
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No biggie flashing roms..I am addicted to that lol
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No biggie flashing roms..I am addicted to that lol
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Well, problem "solved"
And order placed!
Decided to go with the cheaper C6802 and use 3G...no issue for me since LTE is a waste that just gets me faster to over 5GB anyway
First no Samsung phone since my Captivate.
If Note 3 was 6" it would have been my choice but Samsung let others steal their thunder! Maybe Note 4...or Ultra Z 2 ...we will see when the time comes
Now time to get a case and read a lot for what I will need. It will be here Thursday!
shaolin95 said:
And order placed!
Decided to go with the cheaper C6802 and use 3G...no issue for me since LTE is a waste that just gets me faster to over 5GB anyway
First no Samsung phone since my Captivate.
If Note 3 was 6" it would have been my choice but Samsung let others steal their thunder! Maybe Note 4...or Ultra Z 2 ...we will see when the time comes
Now time to get a case and read a lot for what I will need. It will be here Thursday!
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Do you know if you get the dock included? If you don't get one; get one. I can count the times i've opened a cover port (USB/SIM etc. port) on one hand, and it's so nice to not have to open one every time i have to charge it. It's also nice to have when i'm in bed and watching stuff on it while it's on my nightstand. Mini TV!
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Don't forget that you can make your own small apps by tapping the up arrow and the plus sign (check the attachment for an example)
Nope, not out of the box at least. You'll have to flash Omni ROM if you want it today.
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I did see that that you can use widgets and get more from play store but when.I tried looking for more on play store found nothing and also can't get like video and navigon up at the same time?
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I did see that that you can use widgets and get more from play store but when.I tried looking for more on play store found nothing and also can't get like video and navigon up at the same time?
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Yeah, same here. It seems like there's a tiny error when it tries to search. I found them all by searching manually on the play store though. I don't know if there is a "mini video" small app out there yet since i haven't looked for it.
HEY! What's this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ru426.android.small_app_mediaplayer
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Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
BluBBa said:
Hey guys,
so I've been eyeballing with the Z ultra since last year september or something. It was around the time my Note 2 broke and I needed a new phone.
However a few months after it was released the price was just too high (~600€) for me to afford - . So I went with the Nexus5 which was released for only 350 Euros and I really needed a phone back then. Now the ZU is half the price (300€). Interesting price development which really implies that this phone realls isnt for everyone.
so I was wondering if anyone could tell me something about daily usage of the phone - mostly in terms of Size. When sitting somewhere, standing and stuff, I dont care about the size but when moving around I'm afraid it would get impractical.
Does it fit in your trouser-poket at all?
Or you guys mostly put it in the pocket of the Jacket?
Do you always have to wear a small bag to go out with the phone?
How do you carry it when its hot? (Maybe someone who bought it in a hot place since it was released in the fall)
On the other hand, there is the Note 3, which is currently available for 360€ (weekend offer, normally 450€). So I'm really strugglin with the choice of which device to get. If the ZU size is really dealable i'd definitely prefer it over the N3. I would really appreciate it if you could share your experience.
(I know there have been rumors, whether there's gonna be a Z2 Ultra or not but looking at the price (which would be like 700 on release) I don't think I that the new Z2U would matter to me until 2015.)
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So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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So many posts like yours. Please search? But anyway, here's my answer. Yes it is still worth to buy. The development curve has been reaching plateau for a while so it will still be fast for 1-2years to the future. As for carrying i just bring it into my chest pocket and no damn given..
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I'm sorry, I wasnt sure what to search for, so I went for the keyword "pocket" and only found about how much people had no trouble having it in their pocket.
However I would rather like to know about what kind of pockets you use. Does it always have to be the Jacket? What about when wearing shorts?
How about the situation when you're in the office and wanna go get some coffee and dont need your jacket or bag?
Thanks for the answer.
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Phone is definitely big but easily pocketable in all but the slimmest of pants. Personally i sold mine partly because of the size. After three months of ownership i just wanted something much smaller to move around with.
But to answer ur question it is still one of the most powerful out there. Even the z2ultra i suspect will be a minor spec bump over the original much like the z2 is over the z1. I say go for it.
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Thank you for your answer.
So you're saying it fits but it makes you feel uncomfortable when moving around with it in your (trouser)pocket?
Just to put it plain and simple if you want to buy the Z Ultra because of how comfortable it fits in your pocket then I suggest you move on.
Its like saying you wanna buy a Ferrari but but are afraid that it might be too fast.
depends...
I live in a tropical island where the only two types of weather we get is hot and scorching. As such clothing is light the majority if the time. as such the only real option is a pants pocket which fits comfortably but you still know its there with every step. Honestly its not as bad as I may be making it sound but its really up to personal preference. If possible find someone you know who has one and see how it feels to you.
Personally after owning many phones of varying sizes I've found that my preference is an smaller phone (my Lumia 820 is the perfect size) and now I have a larger tablet for media consumption and general use. Usage scenario preferences vary from person to person. The only real way to know what is best for you is to try them all. Its a bit of a hassle and maybe a little expensive but its the foolproof way.
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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
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After using the Z ultra for a couple weeks it doesn't really seem big anymore. I could even go a little bigger.
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Had it since December, and much the same- I could stand going up to 6.5" or even a 7" screen as a phablet.
Only thing I might ever switch to is those Asus Padfones (Or Phonepads? Can't remember which one is which). Those ones that let you stick their phone into a tablet. Sounds nice and the best of both worlds, but the only one that's come up into the US is a 7" one, which just isn't worth the effort (Plus, I don't know if they work with custom firmware, so...).
had in when first time arrive on my county with cost almost 570 Euro, till now im still proud with my ZU, its never let me down.
check this thread
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The ZU is still very relevant. It has the S800, 2GB RAM a 1080p display and other high-end specifications. It seems like the mobile world has plateaued lately, and there are really no "must have" features coming up, as far as I'm concerned. The Snapdragon 801 and 805 are the new SoCs, but they are only marginally better than the 800, so there's really no reason to upgrade. QHD screens? Sure, if you want to get poor battery life. The pixels are rising, but the battery capacity is not.
Upcoming devices:
- Galaxy S5: 2014 ugliest phone (IMO) and it looks like Samsung is checking how many stupid people are out there.
- The New HTC One (M8): Not officially announced yet, but we've pretty much seen the whole thing already, including in a 14 minute German video review yesterday. Nothing special.
Xperia Z2: Looks really nice, but not worth it if you're currently owning an S800 device.
Xperia Z2 Ultra(?): Will probably be announced this summer like last year. Will probably run the 801, 3GB RAM and an updated design. Most people, including me, will probably want it, but it's not worth it. It's like when I had the Galaxy Note and the Note 2 arrived. It wasn't worth the upgrade.
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The XZU C6833 is one of my favorite phablet phones on 2013 and 2014.
Still worth the purchase. Plus im having fun with it when I see a tiny iphone. Haha I'd like to tease my girlfriend but she does used my device more now than her iphone. The text and viewing content has been excellent
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The phone is indeed pocket-able even in the tightest of pants if your a guy, most female pants have much shallower pockets and thus my sister isnt able to fit my phone into her pockets.
The thing is that although it fits sitting becomes cumbersome as the pants constrict the phone and pushes it towards your leg so i often have it out when i know im going to sit for long periods of time. Also it is a pain when you have to take it out of your pockets under your jacket.
In insanely hot climates, like 35 degrees C the phone is also uncomfortable...especially if you sweat.
In comparison to the n3, i would say that the ZU has a nicer build, and also a larger screen. LCD is an added bonus if you prefer it over amoled. Plus its also water resistant which makes it useful when rainy/when bathing. Also, the lack of touch-wiz is also a bonus
But the n3 has (in my opinion) a more optimized OS for a larger screen such as multiwindow (yes i realize sony has tiny apps but its just not the same), better speakers, and a better camera. Plus a smaller amoled screen.
If the waterproof-ness and larger screen appeal more to you i would suggest the ZU, otherwise i myself would've chosen the note 3 as amoled is my preferred screen tech. Hope this helps...
Have had the phone for a few months, and pretty much doubt I'll go with anything with a smaller screen in the future. If the ZU2 ends up being only a minor upgrade as I and some others are expecting, I'll probably wait for the ZU3...saves me shelling out $$$ everyone 6-12 months
Not the perfect phone, but the only one out with most of what I was after in a handset.
Its summer all year round in my country and the phone is anytime cooler than the weather lol.
I carry the phone in my sling bag so I go for the biggest screen that's available for me.
Performance and spec for the ZU will last another 2 years before it becomes obselete so definitely worth getting for the price now. I remembered getting the ZU on day one and it costs about USD 900.
Some other upcoming models in the 5.5 -7 inch region you can consider might be
Oppo Find 7 (5.5 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 801, 3GB, 32GB )
Huawei MediaPad X1 LTE (7inch 1,920 x 1,200 LTPS, Arms Cortex A9 Soc, 2GB, 16GB)
Vivo Xplay 3S (6 inch 2k display, Snapdragon 800, 3GB, 32GB)
I think that it is safe to say that the Z Ultra is by far the best product in the 6" screen-size range (let's face it, the alternatives are not even close in terms of quality...). So, if screen size is a factor for you as it is for many of us, go for it, you will not regret this.
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****, I just across an announcement on ZTE Nubia X6 just now. The spec is amazing
6.4inch FHD
Snapdragon 801
3gb ram
128gb internal
Dual sim support 3g and LTE
4000mh battery
13mp camera
This is truly a ZU contender.
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This is truly a ZU contender.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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Sure, if you believe that a Lada with 600 HP is as good as an AMG.
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I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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I get what you mean but there's always a struggle between quality and spec. The lada will cross the finish line first that's what some people go for.
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Guys,
I sent the Pixel C back. It died in 2 days. I was looking at the Sony Z4 tab along with the google one. Now I am looking back at it. Is that Sony Z4 tablet still a fantastic tablet? Issues? Just looking for overall comments before I look to find one to buy..I dont see them for sale much right now so I find it might be hard to get one anyway. But thought I would ask before I started looking..
Well I was in the same boat as you. I recently purchased the Nexus 9 lte tablet but wasn't happy with it due to the poor construction and some light bleed issues in the screen so I decided to look for this Z4 in Amazon and got it for $589.00 Free shipping and no Tax. Man best choice I've ever made! Really well build table, super thin, great speakers and water proof. Doesn't have many development support or Roms support but you can root it, install Xposed, debloat it and live with it.....oh and great battery life. Compatible with T-mobile and At&t LTE even it says 4G.
Yes is still a great option almost a year after of his released.
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My topic My Z4 Tablet Pros and Cons gives some of my and other's thoughts that are still relevant for the most part.
Also, the tablet flies on Marshmallow. I'm still super happy with my choice.
Does anyone think they might come out with a replacement for it anytime soon?
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Well I was in the same boat as you. I recently purchased the Nexus 9 lte tablet but wasn't happy with it due to the poor construction and some light bleed issues in the screen so I decided to look for this Z4 in Amazon and got it for $589.00 Free shipping and no Tax. Man best choice I've ever made! Really well build table, super thin, great speakers and water proof. Doesn't have many development support or Roms support but you can root it, install Xposed, debloat it and live with it.....oh and great battery life. Compatible with T-mobile and At&t LTE even it says 4G.
Yes is still a great option almost a year after of his released.
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The problem with android tablets is that they do not sell well. That causes OEMs to only release mid to low end tablets perpetuating the situation. It's a sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Instead of making their tablets better so that they can sell better, they make them worse so they sell even worse than before.
That lets (as a result) old tablets to still be excellent. For example my Note Tablet is the best pen-based tablet to this day (maybe ipad pro 9.7 will change that), portable, unlike the 12inch behemoths and awesome functionality coming out of the pen.
Similarly Xperia Z4 remains even after a year of its release one of the best if not *the* best tablet, period. It's the lightest 10 incher ever created by far, making it the only choice for heavy readers. After MarshMallow some of the best battery lives in the industry, excellent screen and the lack of Roms can be fixed by xposed (which pretty much has *all* the features of custom roms).
Still whilst my wife has one, I won't buy one for myself because I don't want to support Sony's ridiculous DRM-Warranty policy. If that doesn't bother you, I don't think you can go wrong with this tablet, I'm hard pressed to find anything better (maybe ipad pro if you don't mind jailbreaking).
Stevethegreat said:
[...] the lack of Roms can be fixed by xposed (which pretty much has *all* the features of custom roms).
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Excellent point.