Hi,
I decided to move from Android (Nexus S) to Nokia with WP
Here, in Bulgaria, we have sim unlocked Lumia 800 for the price of 380 Euro.
But there is just black one.
So, my question is: are there any software or hardware differences between balck and cyan Lumia?
Apparently some people with cyan ones haven't received the 15000 firmware yet.
Apparently some people with cyan ones haven't received the 15000 firmware yet. ... how can the case colour affect FW distribution? There must be some other difference (other than colour) if there is a link between certain handsets & FW revision...???
Rusty! said:
Apparently some people with cyan ones haven't received the 15000 firmware yet.
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I don't think that's dependent on colour. It's to do with your country/carrier.
Rusty! said:
Apparently some people with cyan ones haven't received the 15000 firmware yet.
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piattj said:
Apparently some people with cyan ones haven't received the 15000 firmware yet. ... how can the case colour affect FW distribution? There must be some other difference (other than colour) if there is a link between certain handsets & FW revision...???
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BlitterTwisted said:
I don't think that's dependent on colour. It's to do with your country/carrier.
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Did he just say that? Haha! No difference whatsoever, it's just appearance difference really. Note that if you're going to go for the Cyan version, it does not have a Cyan theme colour (UI accents) that's why I chose black, if you want the other colours, just buy an official rubber case, that pretty much changes your whole phones colour.
BlitterTwisted said:
I don't think that's dependent on colour. It's to do with your country/carrier.
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This is not a true statement. The Cyan specifically has been behind on getting the update. Some users just started getting it last week. It has nothing to do with country carrier when it comes to unlocked/unbranded devices. Otherwise, importers like me would never get an update from AT&T who doesn't support the phone.
Have the cyan model bought in Sweden about 3-4 weeks ago and it had 11501 already installed.
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I've had 3 Cyan 800. I've experienced the Cyan to be last in line for updates. The black in same CV had it long before.
anseio said:
This is not a true statement. The Cyan specifically has been behind on getting the update. Some users just started getting it last week. It has nothing to do with country carrier when it comes to unlocked/unbranded devices. Otherwise, importers like me would never get an update from AT&T who doesn't support the phone.
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arkedk said:
I've had 3 Cyan 800. I've experienced the Cyan to be last in line for updates. The black in same CV had it long before.
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The model, not the colour, everybody's been having different date updates, which Nokia mentioned, within two weeks. I had to manually do the OS update on my black Lumia 800. The firmware update came instantly.
sHaHiN786 said:
The model, not the colour, everybody's been having different date updates, which Nokia mentioned, within two weeks. I had to force the OS update on my black Lumia 800. The firmware came instantly.
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And the "within 2 weeks from Jan. 18th" only applied to first wave Lumia's.
The Lumia's which hit other european markets after the first wave didn't get it till last week, and is probably still rolling out.
Model/CV version, what's the difference? As I said the Black in same model/CV (Country Variant version) got the update before the Cyan.
arkedk said:
And the "within 2 weeks from Jan. 18th" only applied to first wave Lumia's.
The Lumia's which hit other european markets after the first wave didn't get it till last week, and is probably still rolling out.
Model/CV version, what's the difference? As I said the Black in same model/CV (Country Variant version) got the update before the Cyan.
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So isn't that Country/Market/Carrier related rather than colour? Does the colour have a specific ID? I suppose it's just a different colour/case right?
Ok, I see the situation.
Anyway, here in all shops are black. I was thinking for cayan but hope the black one will worth too.
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So isn't that Country/Market/Carrier related rather than colour? Does the colour have a specific ID? I suppose it's just a different colour/case right?
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Nokia claims it's based on IMEI. So, Cyan IMEI's are much later than black.
I LOVE THIS PHONE BY ...watching VIDEOS, Specifications, brand, in short in want to buy this phone, but Worried.
Is their any country specific shipment or any production line which have this issue of YELLOW TINT, or it is random occuring anywhere in any Xperia S across the globe....
For example i am in KSA & want to purchase the Xperia S, Now Should i be worried of having a yellow tint ???
what i read from the threads above is most of the people are from Hongkong.
Sony. will replace the screen or not this is different service issue...But why to buy the Phone which has a problem ???
Please suggest.....
MARKUS from Sony Suggest only Some phones have this Issue, Please find below link.
I expect Name of Countries...
Hongkong
Some of the countries in sony xperia S support forum are...
Hongkong
UK
Singapore users have reported the yellow tint issue.
We have the problem with cells in Sweden also...but not me (mine came with .67), could be the first batches...
Mine is from Japan. No tint.
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Australia. built 12w11
I bought it from Malaysia. It has.
And the bad thing is: sony accepted and and they say that we can get this fixed from sony service center for free but in the same country where you bought it from.
Com'on, I am not going to go to Malaysia back for this from India.
I bought my xperia s in Italy.
I have 0.62 build and yellow tint
Didn't they say some market...from what I see all the markets are effected.
I have HongKong and its effected.
Not even sure what to do.
From denmark with tint.
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Greece too, 12w7 ver. 62
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I got the device on thursday and I haven't got the yellow tint (yet).
It's a German Xperia S,I updated to .73.
It got fairly hot,but I switched it off because I was afraid it might get the yellow tint.
Sweden, yellow tint here
I don´t belive everyone actually can see this this tint. It´s not like my buddies look at the phone and yells about the tint.
If I start opera Next, the lay the phone i landscape i can see the tint even i cold conditions. But, as I said, I bet no one else not aware of the fault would see this
Does it have anything to do with the Version ..??
I have seen several replies mentioning Version of the Phone, does it has anything to do with the Version ?
Try to sort out the group, which can be avoided while purchasing.
If it's make, Version, country, software upgrade, etc.
Even in Bulgaria it has , after 3 weeks usage . Version .62
Croatia - no tint
Build .62
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The Netherlands. 12W09 phone has been sent back to sony for repairs.
Singapore version of the phone on .73 Non Rooted Firmware.................purchsed from Negri electronics..........
Forcefully managed to get the battery temperature up to 45 degrees celcius.............Perfect screen and no yellow patches/tints.................so My phone is fine.
Seems certainly its more based on what region it was bought from.........Seems like certain lots had this problem........
Also in UAE
I had a small yellow tint on the top right and the lovely people from JUMBO electronics replaced mine with a new one.
Also I noticed that the first phone and the one replaced had different "covering" at the front camera.... don't know why and the staff at the shop had no answer either.
France import - no yellow tint found after running benchmark. It didn't feel like it got hot though...
Frankly, it is a screen manufacturing issue so the software would not really affect it.
Hi there guys..
I just saw an offer on GB for the Honor 9 at € 281, which is indeed a great price. It's the International version, they say but there's something weird.. I read here on xda a few people that ordered the International version (don't know where) that should be AL00 but received Asian version, L29.. He had to flash the international rom. It's not that I fear flashing something but I wouldn't like to buy a thing and receive another one..
Anyway, just in case, flashing the International firmware does stop receiving updates, somehow? Until the firmware is stock, unrooted and bootloader untouched it shouldn't be an issue, I guess..
More important: I read that both versions have the same identical hardware so it's natural to think that the LTE 800 MHz is missing from International version, isn't it? Otherwise what's the difference about? Just a firmware? Still it would be weird because if I recall correctly Honor 8 eu version had it (but I maybe be wrong).
Last but not least, from your personal experience, is it a good device to buy for that price? I' not so sure and I would like to wait for something new but the offer is really good considering the original price..
Mmmm it's weird btw.. I just checked on AliExpress for prices comparison and I found a device with Internetional Honor 9 but the codes to pick from are AL00, AL10 or TL01.. so neither one is Internetional version (yeah I could flash as we said)
EDIT: this is the link https://www.gearbest.com/cell-phones/pp_649021.html at normal price, there's a code for discount (if you need tell me via PM I could share, even if there are only 30 so don't know how much they'll be available). From the latter screenshots in the page it seems it should be STF something, could it be? What's that?
The only color available is the pure black, maybe gray is better as overall looking, isn't it?
EDIT2: I see you have it, STF from your signature
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As I know all models are Chines, I can be wrong but I saw just L09C300/C900. Thid is code for international rom C300/C900 and this AL00... are Chines models so probably if this models have C300... firmwares yes, can be international
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sorry mate I edit my post.. so basically from the link I posted above, the screenshot says STF-L09C432B100 so it should be basically as the one you have.. was your device International when you bought it?
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This is clear European model if cost same price go for it is best phone for value
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I fear this is the International version signature, the European one (where LTE B20 is used if poor 4G signal) is FRD-L09 or L16 (32GB and 64GB).. I'm really tempted but I'm not sure now
EDIT info here (post 4 and so on) https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/how-to/model-stf-l09-t3636884/page3 and here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/help/frd-l19-europe-version-64gb-buy-t3458943
This i my case. I live in France, last month I ordered a Honor 9 black on the website priceminister with good offert, saved around 130€ vs buying here. The seller is from China, so I thought this phone is Chinese version, I prepared myself that I will do "rebrand". I received the phone yesterday. It is written AL00 version on the box, but when I started, surprisingly there is already all Google services, and in the settings, it is L09...version, and it received an update to ...130 immediately after. So, I thought the seller did "rebrand" the phone before. I'm happy with it. Only one minus thing, the charger plug is asian type, not european type, I need an adapter
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This i my case. I live in France, last month I ordered a Honor 9 black on the website priceminister with good offert, saved around 130€ vs buying here. The seller is from China, so I thought this phone is Chinese version, I prepared myself that I will do "rebrand". I received the phone yesterday. It is written AL00 version on the box, but when I started, surprisingly there is already all Google services, and in the settings, it is L09...version, and it received an update to ...130 immediately after. So, I thought the seller did "rebrand" the phone before. I'm happy with it. Only one minus thing, the charger plug is asian type, not european type, I need an adapter
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That's the same case with me. Though I don't live in Europe and honor 9 is not officially available but there are grey importers that bring in the phone from China and rebrand it. Luckily the seller did provide an adapter.
Problem is not the model strictly but the fact that only European models have band 20 (800 MHz) for LTE.. (so FRD-etc) ?
I received my IV on Wed, and love the phone, I did use the IV global version and I was able to unlock the bootloader and root, mostly I did that so I could use Repainter App to change the UI colors, and fonts, and I checked the service menu on mine and says the bootloader isn`t allowed to be unlocked, i still got the code from Sony website and tried it and said it Failed and isn`t allowed, so I`m talking to Sony chat right now, to figure out if this will ever be allowed, see below is what sony told me, I hate to retun it, but I think I`ll return and wait and see if it ever becomes allowed.
Based on the details that function is not available due to security reasons and at the moment we don't have any news about an update that may enable that option
Good afternoon, can I have a detailed instruction on root and twrp?
Well this is sad news, I was looking at getting the new NA 1iv, but I'm not buying a device when I cannot unlock the bootloader. Sony support confirmed it cannot be unlocked. And support could not explain why the Global version can, and not the NA version.
wow really i had this preordered since may im not buying it if i cant unlock the bootloader wth
well i cant cancel it maybe support can when they are open it is supposed to be here on the 22nd but i didn't get a tracking number yet
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wow really i had this preordered since may im not buying it if i cant unlock the bootloader wth
well i cant cancel it maybe support can when they are open it is supposed to be here on the 22nd but i didn't get a tracking number yet
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yeah when I went into the service menu by dialing *#*#7378423#*#* the "Bootloader unlock allowed", and mine said "NO", and still tried to unlock the bootloader and said failed and wan`t allowed, so I sent it back to the seller I bought it from, but was hoping maybe the one direct from Sony will be allowed, so I couldn`t help myself and order the purple one from Sony and still says delivery for 22-23 so will see.
RIP. As if the price and overheating issues weren't enough.
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RIP. As if the price and overheating issues weren't enough.
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I know, then sony just dropped a bomb overnight on pre-ordered people, about delivery dates, now some orders have been pushed out to Oct. 21st. I had purple on pre-ordered, since I didn`t like the black color, so I was one of those people my order was pushed back to end of Oct., so I cancelled my order.
Oh, man. They might have a cross flash block then if they even bothered with this bootloader lock.
I tried cross flashing the IV XQ-72 to South East Asia and it worked (from China).
I tried to flash US firmware and got the corruption error.
It appears the firmware released on Xperifirm shows an older version firmware and maybe the reason for the error - no rollback flashing.
2015Ducatimulti said:
I received my IV on Wed, and love the phone, I did use the IV global version and I was able to unlock the bootloader and root, mostly I did that so I could use Repainter App to change the UI colors, and fonts, and I checked the service menu on mine and says the bootloader isn`t allowed to be unlocked, i still got the code from Sony website and tried it and said it Failed and isn`t allowed, so I`m talking to Sony chat right now, to figure out if this will ever be allowed, see below is what sony told me, I hate to retun it, but I think I`ll return and wait and see if it ever becomes allowed.
Based on the details that function is not available due to security reasons and at the moment we don't have any news about an update that may enable that option
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Hey I have a North American variant, XQ-CT62/B and same situation I can't unlock, says not allowed. I build roms. I can't with this. Amazing phone though. Returning and buying the European or Asian variant for bootloader unlock. Only missing a lesser used by my carrier (T-Mobile) band on both..the big bands 71,77 are there.. XQ-CT72 is Asia and XQ-CT54 European.. found on Amazon for around 8-900$ only 256 but who cares....
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Oh, man. They might have a cross flash block then if they even bothered with this bootloader lock.
I tried cross flashing the IV XQ-72 to South East Asia and it worked (from China).
I tried to flash US firmware and got the corruption error.
It appears the firmware released on Xperifirm shows an older version firmware and maybe the reason for the error - no rollback flashing.
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I can't get anything to flash with my bootloader locked with this tool. I downloaded and auto unpacked the firmware but can't flash.. was gonna flash Asian latest on it to see if it would trick the bootloader version to allow unlock. If there is a way to flash locked, please let me know. I will build the coolest roms for us guys..I do Derpfest, Ancient OS, and Project Zephyrus for Pixel 6 series, officially.. nonetheless in a week or 2 I will begin...
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Hey I have a North American variant, XQ-CT62/B and same situation I can't unlock, says not allowed. I build roms. I can't with this. Amazing phone though. Returning and buying the European or Asian variant for bootloader unlock. Only missing a lesser used by my carrier (T-Mobile) band on both..the big bands 71,77 are there.. XQ-CT72 is Asia and XQ-CT54 European.. found on Amazon for around 8-900$ only 256 but who cares....
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yeah I bought the CT72 first and loved it, so I figured since the Asia model allowed bootloader unlock, so I figured the USA version would, just really sucks the USA version doesn`t. I hate the flat dull stock colors for the UI, so I like to root and use RePainter app and change the colors and use root to change fonts and etc. so much for Sony being developer friendly in the USA, but yeah in my area on Googfi that uses T-mobile towers, 5g here uses the N71 band and when I had the CT62 I was on the N71 band and was able to have 234 mb down load speed which was faster than my pixel 6 Pro, but right now I hope for future update that would allow it, for 1600.00 that's no go for me, GoogleFI had deal going on for existing customers, if I bought S22 Ultra I would get 400.00 off, so I ordered a S22 Ultra green 256gb, so I will have that coming Tuesday, and I still have my 6 Pro I`m using at the moment That I`m using and its rooted, then I actually have another Xperia 1 IV Purple coming Thursday 29th, I had ordered it and forgot to cancel the order and shipped, so I figured I do comparison of the Camera`s with the 6P,S22U and the IV and other features, I have had the S22U before and Samsung allows lot of customization with out root, but the size of the IV is the prefect fit. Time will tell.
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yeah I bought the CT72 first and loved it, so I figured since the Asia model allowed bootloader unlock, so I figured the USA version would, just really sucks the USA version doesn`t. I hate the flat dull stock colors for the UI, so I like to root and use RePainter app and change the colors and use root to change fonts and etc. so much for Sony being developer friendly in the USA, but yeah in my area on Googfi that uses T-mobile towers, 5g here uses the N71 band and when I had the CT62 I was on the N71 band and was able to have 234 mb down load speed which was faster than my pixel 6 Pro, but right now I hope for future update that would allow it, for 1600.00 that's no go for me, GoogleFI had deal going on for existing customers, if I bought S22 Ultra I would get 400.00 off, so I ordered a S22 Ultra green 256gb, so I will have that coming Tuesday, and I still have my 6 Pro I`m using at the moment That I`m using and its rooted, then I actually have another Xperia 1 IV Purple coming Thursday 29th, I had ordered it and forgot to cancel the order and shipped, so I figured I do comparison of the Camera`s with the 6P,S22U and the IV and other features, I have had the S22U before and Samsung allows lot of customization with out root, but the size of the IV is the prefect fit. Time will tell.
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So ct72, has decent speeds? I have TMobile..also can you tell me where you bought it? I found ng or ngp mobile store on amazon that has them for like 870-900$
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So ct72, has decent speeds? I have TMobile..also can you tell me where you bought it? I found ng or ngp mobile store on amazon that has them for like 870-900$
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the CT72 network speed was sort of ok, but I was kind of disappointed with the speeds, best I got was 20mb that was it, that`s why return it, for the USA version, but I bought the CT72 from seller on ebay NEVRMSRP, it was the purple color and was 512gb storage, brand new in the sealed box for 1069.00, but I think they don`t have any new ones for sale.
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the CT72 network speed was sort of ok, but I was kind of disappointed with the speeds, best I got was 20mb that was it, that`s why return it, for the USA version, but I bought the CT72 from seller on ebay NEVRMSRP, it was the purple color and was 512gb storage, brand new in the sealed box for 1069.00, but I think they don`t have any new ones for sale.
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Oh no that's no good. I'm in ohio and typically have 5G UC on my Raven and rn on the us variant I'm pulling similar speeds. I checked bands on that international and it was only missing a lesser used one, band 41. Unless I'm mistaken..thanks for the insight though!
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Oh no that's no good. I'm in ohio and typically have 5G UC on my Raven and rn on the us variant I'm pulling similar speeds. I checked bands on that international and it was only missing a lesser used one, band 41. Unless I'm mistaken..thanks for the insight though!
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this is from gsmarena, I`m not sure how accurate it is
5G bands1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41, 77, 78 SA/NSA/Sub6 - Europe 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41, 66, 71, 77, 78, 260, 261 SA/NSA/Sub6/mmWave - USA 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28, 38, 40, 41, 77, 78, 79 SA/NSA/Sub6 - Asia
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this is from gsmarena, I`m not sure how accurate it is
5G bands1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41, 77, 78 SA/NSA/Sub6 - Europe1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, 28, 38, 40, 41, 66, 71, 77, 78, 260, 261 SA/NSA/Sub6/mmWave - USA1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 28, 38, 40, 41, 77, 78, 79 SA/NSA/Sub6 - Asia
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Nice, thanks this is the ebay store? And can you confirm it had Google play and setup wizard and stuff? Like US?
Sony XPERIA 1 IV XQ-CT72 256GB 12GB RAM Dual SIM (FACTORY UNLOCKED) 6.5" | eBay
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Nice, thanks this is the ebay store? And can you confirm it had Google play and setup wizard and stuff? Like US?
Sony XPERIA 1 IV XQ-CT72 256GB 12GB RAM Dual SIM (FACTORY UNLOCKED) 6.5" | eBay
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Yes that's seller I bought mine from, and yes it had Google play and everything like the US version
2015Ducatimulti said:
Yes that's seller I bought mine from, and yes it had Google play and everything like the US version
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Thanks for your help man! Appreciate it!
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Thanks for your help man! Appreciate it!
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No problem!
Hurt Copain said:
Hey I have a North American variant, XQ-CT62/B and same situation I can't unlock, says not allowed. I build roms. I can't with this. Amazing phone though. Returning and buying the European or Asian variant for bootloader unlock. Only missing a lesser used by my carrier (T-Mobile) band on both..the big bands 71,77 are there.. XQ-CT72 is Asia and XQ-CT54 European.. found on Amazon for around 8-900$ only 256 but who cares....
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Hey Hurt,
Usually with the Xperia phones, or at least with the 1 series, you do not need to unlock the bootloader to flash. It is just a matter of using a flashing tool, run a executable, and it does it's thing. Only thing for unlocking the bootloader is to root.
I spent time flashing roms for phones of all kinds, and yes, unlocking the bootloader was always part of the process. And cross flashing region, even hardware different phones is allowed (which is weird because it's a no no for other company phone models, which can lead to bricking). I flashed my Xperia 1 II from US to SEA firmware. And also crossflashed my CT72 HK to SEA with no issues.
So try to cross flash the firmware to an Asian firmware if you can or still willing.
XDA for Xperia 1 III guides helped me flash.