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I've discovered a severe "bug" that is not an isolated issue. I am using the AT&T branded Titan, unlocked on Telus Mobility. Works like a charm however after replacing my Titan several times I've discovered there is a MAJOR reoccurring bug in the OS which causes the Titan to "crash" when the storage capacity has reached a certain amount. I have tested it on several replacement Titans. I have also encountered this crash more than 10 times and can reproduce it easily. Other users have also reported encountering the same crash upon testing.
When this "crash" takes place when you have filled your storage with media or apps beyond approx. 75% (this may now be inaccurate). Based on my testing the crash occurs sooner when the storage is filled higher. In some instances it occurred within 20 min or less of storage reaching over 90% capacity. In a few cases it crashed the next day. These crashed are not caused by anything specific but will occur randomly. I've witnessed the crash in 2 forms. One a UI glitch which I will explain in a moment. The other is simply the phone being stuck on the white HTC boot screen which can only be resolved with a hard reset. The other more common crash appears as a UI glitch at first and you can no longer launch any apps, any tiles or anything at all. You are forced to do a soft reset (which tricks you to think this fixes the odd UI glitch). Upon soft reset the phone will take much longer to reboot than normal. This is because it's actually entering the first time setup process! Your Windows Live Hotmail hub and account settings are magically and permanently removed as well as your Facebook settings. It is impossible to re-add these back and it will only give you repeated errors when trying to do so.
However, all your previous apps, media and some settings will be oddly retained.. for a temporary time until another crash forcing a hard reset. Before this occurs I recommend transferring any personal media off the phone to risk losing it. At this point a hard reset is the only way you can re-add your Windows Live Hotmail account and Facebook account. And of course this causes utter sadness since you lose all your settings, media, apps and any Xbox Live game progress (in my case A LOT of progress).
As mentioned this is not an isolated issue and needs to be addressed. I have decided to contact HTC directly about this in hopes for a resolution. Originally it was thought when you go over 75% capacity of storage this crash would occur however I discovered yesterday that this crash occurred for me with only 7Gb storage remaining BUT was stable for over a month before the crash occurred.
I really hope HTC or Microsoft address this issue. I have heard from Titan users in Europe this issue was resolved in an update. However this update is not available to North America.
I have uploaded a video of the UI glitch version of the crash here and what occurs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2enkDBdixCc .
Oh man that would suck. Tomorrow I will fill my titan to the brim. Stay tuned
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Filling my Titan up now, I'll let you know the result.
Filled to 557mb remaining. Filled with movies and TV shows. No panic attacks yet. I'll keep using as normal.
I have 1988mb remaining. Dint have much to fill but loaded with massive movies. So far no panic attacks. Using it as normal. Will give it a few hours or maybe even 24 hrs. Do you want me to do anything specific that will freeze it?
All apps launch fine from tiles as well as app list.
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drupad2drupad said:
I have 1988mb remaining. Dint have much to fill but loaded with massive movies. So far no panic attacks. Using it as normal. Will give it a few hours or maybe even 24 hrs. Do you want me to do anything specific that will freeze it?
All apps launch fine from tiles as well as app list.
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Give it a day or so I'd say. The first Titan would crash almost immediately. First sign is when hubs would not open. On the current Titan I had it filled for about 2 days then it started giving Active X errors in Internet Explorer while streaming html 5 videos. I had a feeling it wasn't normal so I closed IE then the phone crashed and I couldn't open any hubs or apps.
Lets see what happens.. Could take a day or so with heavy use. Based on my tests sometimes even soft resets can initiate a crash.
Could it be...
I filled my Titan to less than 600 megs after I added all my music and apps from my Focus. From time to time when browsing the internet, the page will freeze then IE kicks my to the homescreen. When I reopen IE, it's has no history of the page I was just browsing. This has happened over twenty times in five days I've had my Titan.
Bug fixed with new release
I had the same problem but it has been solved with the last firmware realease.
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I had the same problem but it has been solved with the last firmware realease.
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that's great news but on the ATT model I'm not finding any updates through Zune. I even tried forcing any updates but still nothing..
I noticed the same thing. I think it may actually be the app storage which you can change in the zune settings. I changed mine from 5 to 10% and so far so good. I wasn't that close to running out of room in my media storage.
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Changing these values will not resolve the problem. If you record a big video on your device, you'll probably loose it. It append to me.
The only way is to wait the firmware release in your country.
i have been having the same problem.
i won my titan at a windows party, and now i have it unlocked to work on t-mobile. i thought it was because i unlocked it, it started freezing. but i hard reset, loaded it up, and then it froze again. im tired of having to redo the phone cus its like over 100 apps to redownload everytime plus music. also my google mail wont work so i guess i will be hard resetting one more time, and make sure i dont put as much **** on it. its got 7gb of storage still and your right no update for the US yet
The 2 Titans I have are also ones that were won from the MS promo parties. Not sure if that's related. So far this is the most stable its been, its been a week with no forced hard resets. But not sure how long I can go not adding media or recording videos.
I will say that it still hasn't been glitch free. Kik messenger crashes from time to time as went as internet explorer. But at least it hasn't froze or forced to hard reset again.
wow impressive but i agree its scary thinking if u add just one album the phone is ****ed. lately windows messenger goes out of sync and i cant facebook chat. very weird. i restarted the phone then it works. but when i go to settings and try and add it under accounts, it doesnt save. weird.i never had any problems with my hd7. now i get the phone of my dreams and it wants to be a ***** :X haha
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I may have stumbled onto either a widespread issue with the Titan or just an issue with a small percentage.
I noticed another member mentioning their first Titan being a dud and crashing at 75% storage capacity. Funny enough I am also on my 2nd Titan and experienced similar problems both times.
Both become unstable only after I installed all my apps, games and media so essentially once it was fully loaded up. Then the phone would crash in some unusual and random way each time forcing me to perform a hard reset. Most commonly the hubs would cause a UI glitch not allowing any apps to be launch. I would be forced to soft reset where then it would take 4 times longer than normal to boot. Then I would be brought back to the Windows Phone first time setup but strangely all my apps and media would still be there except the ATT apps would be restored and some of the original settings would revert. As well you lose you hotmail setup and Facebook sync and neither can be restored without a hard reset so it's a catch 22.
I bought a second Titan thinking I had a lemon the first time but found the second one did the same thing to me once I followed the same routine. It's stable now only because I uploaded a bunch of media to the cloud this time and my storage is at 8.9gb remaining instead of the usual 2gb. I'm scared to transfer movies and other media on to it and fill it up.
Do you think it's an issue with all Titans when you fill it near capacity or is it possible I have 2 lemons? Wondering if anyone else has theirs over 75% capacity?
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Ran into this exact issue. Just not sure how close I was to capacity, but I would imagine it was definitely over 75%. Not cool...
Curious if MS knows about this issue.. Or if it's Titan specific. I guess in that case we'd need a fix from HTC.
Either way we need a fix for it from either one. We shouldn't have to avoid using storage on our phones forever.
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Fixed in v7.10 (7740)
This issue was fixed for me on v7.10 (7740), 2-3 weeks ago.
Did anybody else had this update ?
cricri23 said:
This issue was fixed for me on v7.10 (7740), 2-3 weeks ago.
Did anybody else had this update ?
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As far as I know this update is not available to the AT&T branded models.
man my titan crashed again today. i was on the phone and got off and the screen was frozen. now the phone wont turn back on wtf! my hd7 never gave me a single problem and now i get the flagship Titan, and i cant load it to the max, i cant use fb chat. **** is weak. i am in LOVE with windows phone but this has bummed me out. tired of hard resetting ahh just a little vent
Guys have you tried 7740 update? Or the HTC firmware/driver update with new drivers?
i purchased a redmi note 3 online and i'm supposed to get it in a month or so, i read that it takes long time before bootloader unlock is approved. i already created a miui account. just wondering can i submit my request right now and wait for it to get approved, willl it even get approved? or should i wait for the phone? i already added details on my profile about what MIUI version im running and what device i have. any one ever done that? thanks
I never doing that..but..
I think there's nothing wrong with that...even that way it's clever way to avoid long wait permission from xiaomi while the phone needed for unlocking quickly..
i think im gonna try that, someone on reddit did and got approved
i just submitted my application, will post the result
You get approved in less than a day since recently
holy hell i just got approved in less than 20 mins! this is awesome
from last 10-15 days approval takes maximum 30 mins..earlier it took 2-7 days
i guess its getting automated now
finally they must have upgraded their slow servers
i guess so
On Monday when I tried, I got an approval text 4 minutes after I applied.
Great
I have two T-Mobile's OnePlus N200 5G
One of them got Android 12 about 6 weeks ago.
Second one (received from T-Mobile few days ago under Trade In offer) is still on Android 11 and does not get any update (April 1 security patch of Android 11 is the last). Manual check does not get updates too.
How can I install Android 12 on this device?
it depends on what you want out of the phone.
T-Mobile pulled the Android 12 update back into development:
OnePlus 10 Pro 5G: Update to Android 13
Find out about the Android update on the OnePlus 10 Pro 5G.
www.t-mobile.com
I've not read anywhere as to the reason why they pulled it back, but clearly it must have been something significant enough that they suspended the rollout, rather than just fixing it with the next update.
My family also has two N200s, and one of them did the upgrade to 12. My son's is on 12 and has had few issues with his, and nothing significant to my knowledge. i kept delaying the update on mine until finally the update message went away when they pulled the update back, so i'm still on 11 and working just fine.
You could wait until T-Mobile addresses whatever they wanted to fix, and they push the update back out again via OTA (this is the solution i'm going to go with)
Not sure if the OOS12 image for the T-Mobile variant has been available on XDA, but you could check other threads here to see if anyone has it to download and install. you'd need to check whatever instructions are available on whatever thread you find it in to do that.
but, if you are wanting to go through the work of doing an OS install outside of the normal OTA, you may want to just check about the new official LineageOS being available for the N200. (if you want to try LineageOS, you would need to be on 11 to begin with anyway, which is conveniently where you are currently at)
HeadMajor said:
it depends on what you want out of the phone.
T-Mobile pulled the Android 12 update back into development:
OnePlus 10 Pro 5G: Update to Android 13
Find out about the Android update on the OnePlus 10 Pro 5G.
www.t-mobile.com
I've not read anywhere as to the reason why they pulled it back, but clearly it must have been something significant enough that they suspended the rollout, rather than just fixing it with the next update.
My family also has two N200s, and one of them did the upgrade to 12. My son's is on 12 and has had few issues with his, and nothing significant to my knowledge. i kept delaying the update on mine until finally the update message went away when they pulled the update back, so i'm still on 11 and working just fine.
You could wait until T-Mobile addresses whatever they wanted to fix, and they push the update back out again via OTA (this is the solution i'm going to go with)
Not sure if the OOS12 image for the T-Mobile variant has been available on XDA, but you could check other threads here to see if anyone has it to download and install. you'd need to check whatever instructions are available on whatever thread you find it in to do that.
but, if you are wanting to go through the work of doing an OS install outside of the normal OTA, you may want to just check about the new official LineageOS being available for the N200. (if you want to try LineageOS, you would need to be on 11 to begin with anyway, which is conveniently where you are currently at)
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I updated to 12 on my phone and had some issues so I msm'd back to 11 a week or so ago and just this morning got the notification for 12 again but with security updates for july. Perhaps they fixed some things up. Now that I know I can fall back to 11 no problem I will try out 12 again eventually.
I updated to 12 a couple weeks ago, I straight away noticed a problem receiving text msgs. I'd get the notification but when I went into messaging the text were gone. I was thinking about getting the phone replaced but thought to check for an update and Boom, there was an update saying RCS publish fix. I'm hoping I will no longer have the text disappearing. So far it looks fixed. I hope this helps
strange. Tmobile must be in some wonky dual development path hell.
I never completed the update to 12 when it was temporarily giving the messages to update, and it currently is still not giving me any messages about update, and Tmobile website says 12 is still in development. So they must still be working to put out a full 12 package for people to update from 11 to 12 who have never done so.
but if you've already updated to 12, then like duhhhm8, Tmobile is pushing an incremental update?
then there is Deejayadhd, who did update, then downgrated, and is getting the incremental message too? perhaps your device is tagged as having already updated to 12 so it's sending the incremental to you. it will be interesting how that will work. will the system figure out that it needs to send the full package again, or will it try to send the incremental 12 update to install into the current 11 system.
well, wtf.
my phone is just sitting there charging.
i go and doubletap the screen to wake it up, because i hear that i received a notification.
for a fraction of a second it shows the tmobile logo, and goes black/off.
turn it back on, and 12 gets installed and i'm looking at the app optimization %
no prompt to choose whether i wanted to or not, nothing.
just shut itself off and upgraded itself
whelp. bugs or no bugs, i guess i'm getting to see how 12 works out
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well, wtf.
my phone is just sitting there charging.
i go and doubletap the screen to wake it up, because i hear that i received a notification.
for a fraction of a second it shows the tmobile logo, and goes black/off.
turn it back on, and 12 gets installed and i'm looking at the app optimization %
no prompt to choose whether i wanted to or not, nothing.
just shut itself off and upgraded itself
whelp. bugs or no bugs, i guess i'm getting to see how 12 works out
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if you hated 12 (I won't blame you), MSM back to 11 and go in developer options and disable automatic system updates and you should be able to install the april patch. after that, it shouldn't automatically reboot.
justauserthatusesaphone said:
if you hated 12 (I won't blame you), MSM back to 11 and go in developer options and disable automatic system updates and you should be able to install the april patch. after that, it shouldn't automatically reboot.
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well, so far i think i've been ok. no major issues on 12 for me.
i think the one most irritating is the poor gmail/google notifications.
but my previous phone had the problem of the background updater kept getting killed so i would frequently go into accounts and uncheck gmail sync and recheck gmail sync to restart the background process and get my notifications working again.
so i'm already in the habit of regularly checking if gmail sync/notifications are working anyway. just a bummer that it was ok on 11, and now it's borked on 12 and i'm now back to old habits to address
I had absolutely nothing but problems with 12.. I had the original update.. Msm's to 11... Got the new android 12 update... Fixed a lot... But honestly... Didn't work great. I eventually called oneplus' support line to fix the bug about having a snapdragon 855... They said they were putting it on there to do list. So.. Cool. But then... Lineage OS was released for it.. And I was like: by Oxygen OS (Color OS brother/sister at this point). I had one issue with Lineage, but I think it might be device-specific (meaning my individual device). The Lineage OS update is phenomenal! It makes Color OS... I mean Oxygen OS 12, seem slow. Very slow.
symnok said:
I have two T-Mobile's OnePlus N200 5G
One of them got Android 12 about 6 weeks ago.
Second one (received from T-Mobile few days ago under Trade In offer) is still on Android 11 and does not get any update (April 1 security patch of Android 11 is the last). Manual check does not get updates too.
How can I install Android 12 on this device?
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in an update it does get android 12. Mine is one android 12 now after an update 2 weeks ago
I ended up downloading the update before it was pulled and have so many regrets. The most crippling issue is a seemingly unfixable bug that causes both wifi and cell signal to cut out at random, which is effecting both me and my other family members with the same phone. I also just generally hate the weird psudeo-ColorOS that i've been using. Sadly an authenticator app I need to use for work would make wiping the thing in the name of the OS downgrade too much of a pain, so I've just decided to order a different phone at this point.
The Zenfone 9 is a great little device. However, since today I have seen several automatic reboots of the device. Anyone else seeing this problem?
I haven't seen a reboot; any new app you've installed of late?
Good hint - I have installed one yesterday. Will uninstall and report back.
Unfortunately is still get 1-2 reboots a day. Not critical but annoying! Anyone else?
I'm on latest update and unlocked+rooted. Not a single unwanted reboot.
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Unfortunately is still get 1-2 reboots a day. Not critical but annoying! Anyone else?
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Are you on the latest update? Mine hasn't arrived yet, but I'm worried this issue will appear on mine.
balkce said:
Are you on the latest update? Mine hasn't arrived yet, but I'm worried this issue will appear on min
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Yes I am. No worries. Device is great. Just software.
Did a hard reset - problem persists. Not sure what the cause is - working with Asus support on it.
Hi, a friend of mine with a ZF9 has got reboot every night during charge (he uses slow charge, this night he'll try normal charge).
He had reboot even during daytime, he did a hard reset yesterday and for now everything is ok, but I'll update with new info in case of.
I've been having those reboots for weeks now. There is an official thread on the asus forums talking about it. There are more than a dozen people who have also reported it and from the looks of it, Asus hasn't found the source of the problem yet. Out of curiosity, in which country did you buy it? Are you rooted?
my version is a french version. I neither had any beta OS on it nor was it rooted. I wanted to provide Asus with Logs but they rather wanted the device for repair, now I'm waiting for its return.
I doubt this is a hardware issue though as the reboots did happen in cold state w/o any system activities ongoing. The only special thing on my setup was that I used two sim cards in parallel.
I did a hard reset and he problem remained. I also used slow charging.
I'm from Italy and the phone of my friend is not rooted and with bootlloader locked.
I heard my friend minutes ago, and from when he deactivated programmed charging the issue seems to have disappeared. Have you got programmed charging on?
Yes, I have the upload scheduled. But I'm beginning to suspect that the problem originates from a lot in Italy. I just asked you because I thought it was from there.
Love this phone but also having the same issue. Bought from Asus directly (US site) too. There's a whole thread of folks with the problem too on their forum:
ZenFone 9 randomly restarts
Hi all, I bought an Asus ZenFone 9 from the UK online store. I started to migrate the apps from my old phone to the zf9 and once I finished I started to use my new ZenFone 9 as my main phone. However, I noticed around 3 dso that when i wentato unplug a fter charging the phone it looked as if it...
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Yes, I have the upload scheduled. But I'm beginning to suspect that the problem originates from a lot in Italy. I just asked you because I thought it was from there.
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Try to deactivate it and report please ;-)
My friend hasn't got reboot since then for now, two days and a half ago.
My reboots do not happen while charging, FWIW. And they're always while the phone is idle (sitting on desk). I look up and see it's spontaneously rebooting...
I was having reboots on custom kernel, just updated to 32.2050.2050.34 without going custom kernel (still rooted) and have had no reboots yet.
Mine reboots while watching YouTube app, either with high brightness, while charging, or both. It seems to be less likely to happen if i clear cache from YouTube settings.
It typically doesn't happen in other apps. Phone is stock. EU version.
After testing for a few weeks, there is a good chance that the reboots on my device are due to Magisk (not modules)
As I'm rooted, I have to manually check for updates via xperifirm. There was an upsated released: version 64.1.A.0.913.
Anybody updated and tested? Apparently camera apps have been updated! Any new features?
I wont get time to update yet, just thought I'd ask.
Thanks
Unless I'm mistaken, this update allows you to switch from android 12 to android 13
Huh we have android 13 for months now ...so i would say no .
Its for sure a security patch.
Chinese 72 got it 2 weeks ago , european 54 got it a week ago and US has to wait for another two weeks , i wish it would be all at the same time .
Hello,
The only feature I expericence since the upgraded is the "phone too hot warning" issue. I use the phone since late november without any trouble.
For the latest week, the phone displayed the orange warning sign and closed the camera app maybe 10 times. It couldn't even go through a 10 minutes google meet call...
It may not be related to the latest release, and I may be the only one having this issue...
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Huh we have android 13 for months now ...so i would say no .
Its for sure a security patch.
Chinese 72 got it 2 weeks ago , european 54 got it a week ago and US has to wait for another two weeks , i wish it would be all at the same time .
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Yeah, you're right about security patch. Thought perhaps something has trickled down from the new phone releases, like improved camera apps as they have changed their version numbers. Thanks
arthurham said:
Hello,
The only feature I expericence since the upgraded is the "phone too hot warning" issue. I use the phone since late november without any trouble.
For the latest week, the phone displayed the orange warning sign and closed the camera app maybe 10 times. It couldn't even go through a 10 minutes google meet call...
It may not be related to the latest release, and I may be the only one having this issue...
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Ouch, sorry to hear that. I will update in a few days and see if I have the same issue. Though tbh, I havent had as many issues as some have, perhaps because of root and cleaning up some bloat and adding in adblockers etc.
You should do a full all apps cache wipe and see if that helps.
arthurham said:
Hello,
The only feature I expericence since the upgraded is the "phone too hot warning" issue. I use the phone since late november without any trouble.
For the latest week, the phone displayed the orange warning sign and closed the camera app maybe 10 times. It couldn't even go through a 10 minutes google meet call...
It may not be related to the latest release, and I may be the only one having this issue...
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I had overheating problems with meet and 5g i was outside but on older different firmware.
You also have to understand now its summer time (probably in your country too) so you cant really compare november temperatures with current ones unless you did that in room with AC on.
I'm on the latest US version so still waiting for our update for this cycle. But since my last update, the phone has been very warm to the touch during normal use and I've seen the heat warning many times while using camera. I have never seen it before. Battery life is crap now too and used to be fantastic. Maybe you guys lucked out last month and the US version got whatever it was to cause the heating issues first? My last update was around 300mb so it was bigger that usual I think.
.913 QR reader from statusbar dont work. only black screen.
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.913 QR reader from statusbar dont work. only black screen.
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I had that sometimes on .891 ,couldnt get it to work no matter what but it goes away eventually with restarts .
Edit: i just got the .913 and qr reader works fine. Been using my phone before that for 2 hrs and no overheating ,after installing 913 and checking camera apps for 1 minute my top part of the screen got extremly hot but didnt show any overheating warnings.nothing changed so far in camera related apps (no portrait mode)