With all this upheaval, what do you think about grabbing one while they're going cheap, used and good condition?
Im aware of the circumstances and that Huawei banning bootloader unlocking makes the situation even worse. If we could find a way to unlock the bootloader by unofficial means, I'd be happy to pick one up if there's decent 3rd party developer support
Could this be an opportunity or just a waste of time and money for us?
I've just bought one for £520 and it's only a month old. I'm prepared to take the risk for such a good phone and hopefully this Trump crap will come to an end soon
I have one sealed here myself but debating if I should have opted for Mate 20 Pro instead for worthwhile savings
Things could possibly reverse back to normal, if the ban goes full on, it could come to a total of $11m lost of business for the states with the companies combine, plus other possible complications, even regardless of that, and full ban on huawei, existing devices are not effected going by what Google have said
I got one before the 'news'. No regrets, it's a great phone.
Yeah i'd say buy it or get the mate 20 pro it's a better deal.
It has a better screen also
Although i don't care for that myself
i have a p30 pro love the phone but i am thinking about getting rid of it becaues of the hole ban thing i buy my phone off line every year and just tread my old one in so just looking at it from a money aspect
It's still worth every cent of the original retail price, let alone the massive discounts you can find. Its the best phone of 2019, and I've tried them all...
I agree. I'm watching a few variants on ebay, mainly the VOG-L04 model. If prices continue to fall, I might end up with more than one.
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I got one before the 'news'. No regrets, it's a great phone.
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Ditto.
I just picked mine up about to days ago. And I paid premium price for it. I was looking for the best battery life, performance and camera. I'm not really a fan of Samsung. I have no complaints with this phone. Other then I have a defective figure print sensor.
Bought a new one about a week ago. Could not be much happier overall. I don't necessarily need Android Q. The phone is working fine as it is. However this might be the last Huawei I'll buy depending on what happens in the future. It's very unclear future for Huawei now. For current phones I don't care though. This phone has the hardware I need that no one else has.
No regrets for me too. I bought it after the news came out. P30 pro is already a futuristic device. Huawei can always use AOSP and we can use alternative for Google services
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I picked one up over the weekend, new. I'm not too bothered about the crap - it's a great phone, will get Q, will probably get security updates, and will definitely get Play store updates - that's good enough for me.
And it's a matter of time before either of the countries blink and things go back to normal
Well, I just picked one up brand new here in Canada. Coming from a Pixel 3xl. Don't regret it one bit. Nothing wrong with the pixel at all, but it fell short in a couple areas within the camera that the p30 pro delivers on. I don't really care about the situation happening, I believe it will get resolved.
I bought my P30 Pro before the ban for full price.
I love the fact that it has a best in class camera that's the most versatile in the industry, 2 day battery life, the fastest charging speeds and just its overall gorgeous design.
I have no regrets. I don't take politics seriously and think the news and media puts this in a scaremongering light as Google and various US-based companies wouldn't want to lose out on potential revenue and business.
Can you guys imagine If Huawei and Honor, Xiaomi, OPPO etc. Get an agreement to make one OS to all chinese Smartphones, this way the devs will forget about Play Store, cause only Pixel Will left ... Since even Motorola and Nokia are from China now! Is pretty much the end of Android!
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Can you guys imagine If Huawei and Honor, Xiaomi, OPPO etc. Get an agreement to make one OS to all chinese Smartphones, this way the devs will forget about Play Store, cause only Pixel Will left ... Since even Motorola and Nokia are from China now! Is pretty much the end of Android!
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Just a little correction. Nokia is from finland
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Just a little correction. Nokia is from finland
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I thought that the smartphone division was sold to a chinese Company , maybe was Lenovo and Motorola .. my bad!
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On the sidelines of the G20 summit in Osaka, Trump said “U.S. companies can sell their equipment to Huawei,” without going into detail. “We’re talking about equipment where there’s no great national security problem with it,” Trump continued. It’s not clear what this means for now, but it’s likely Huawei will be able to acquire basic components like Qualcomm processors and Google’s Android OS.
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I'm seriously considering ordering this phone, the specs are great but what's driving me is better battery life. I've got a Moto G, which is very nice; however, my battery life has never been good. (My first Android phone was an Huawei and I like the brand very much--my little ole Huawei is still running strong and serves as a cordless VOIP phone in the house.) Has Huawei made any announcements about rolling out KitKat to this phone? TIA
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I'm seriously considering ordering this phone, the specs are great but what's driving me is better battery life. I've got a Moto G, which is very nice; however, my battery life has never been good. (My first Android phone was an Huawei and I like the brand very much--my little ole Huawei is still running strong and serves as a cordless VOIP phone in the house.) Has Huawei made any announcements about rolling out KitKat to this phone? TIA
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Huawei Device USA will not give a date because the big boys in China will not allow them to. But I know the Chinese Version of the HAM2 is already on KitKat.
kk isn't a deal breaker for me.
Right now, the Mate2 is performing without issues, lockups etc. Once/if kk is released, I'm going to hold off until reports
come back. I am getting to cranky to deal with bugs.
Thanks for the info. The lack of KitKat isn't a deal breaker for me, I was just wondering. I really want decent battery performance, good specs and a decent price and the HAM2 seems to fit the bill. The build quality of my old Huawei was good and from what I'm reading in reviews, this phone seems well built. I'm just about to pull the trigger on Amazon once I decide on color. (I suspect it will be the black one.)
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Thanks for the info. The lack of KitKat isn't a deal breaker for me, I was just wondering. I really want decent battery performance, good specs and a decent price and the HAM2 seems to fit the bill. The build quality of my old Huawei was good and from what I'm reading in reviews, this phone seems well built. I'm just about to pull the trigger on Amazon once I decide on color. (I suspect it will be the black one.)
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Unless you watch video over LTE 24/7, using it as a phone, web browser etc....I get 2-3 days EASY on one charge. That, and the price are what
sold me.
As elpc has said, there is a KitKat version but it's for the Chinese model at the moment.
When I read the phone reviews on Amazon, one of the reviewers said he was told by Huawei reps that KitKat for the US models would come in either July or August.
I don't know if we'll get it, or when, but I do hope we get L!
There are better chioces than huawei,never huawei products
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Since Huawei is the 3rd largest smartphone maker in the world, why not?
Some friends of mine said you bought a Huawei? Yuck, it's a Chinese phone, they have spyware that sends stuff to China.
I simply answer...what ISN'T made in China, and what company, government DOESN'T spy and send data to someone?
I bought it do to the value, the battery life and the screen. No bloatware, unlocked for $300. Bang for the buck, that's what
I look for.
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Some friends of mine said you bought a Huawei? Yuck, it's a Chinese phone, they have spyware that sends stuff to China.
I simply answer...what ISN'T made in China, and what company, government DOESN'T spy and send data to someone?
I bought it do to the value, the battery life and the screen. No bloatware, unlocked for $300. Bang for the buck, that's what
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Exactly this. I'm pretty sure Apple and Google do the same thing. In fact, Apple just admitted to storing data in its Chinese servers. And some guy was arrested for illegal pornography in his Gmail account as well.
Hell, there's the US and German secretaries phone call spying thing too. Everyone spies on everyone nowadays. You can't avoid it.
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Samsung $700? Battery sucks, went to downtown San Francisco 8am before even 12 from full battery to low battery warning, I returned it the next day it is been to me for a week so battery is well charge up.
HAM2 I tried watching Netflix yesterday just to test the battery over 4g, it sucks that I just got almost 10hrs may be 15mins short before battery is 10% left and it is just $299, did I made the wrong choice?
But if they don't update to KITKAT before September 11 I will consider returning this. Good thing I bought this on amazon, they pay back shipping you can't go wrong on what you buy.
I entered a chat support from Huawei and they told me KitKat was on the way but they coulndt commit to a date...
Aand as for L they toldme they would make an statement when its out :/
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I entered a chat support from Huawei and they told me KitKat was on the way but they coulndt commit to a date...
Aand as for L they toldme they would make an statement when its out :/
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Really hope we get L afterwards. If not, hopefully we'll have custom ROMs by then.
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This is probably the best phone I have ever owned. I too had some friends ask about it judging it before knowing what it was all about, after showing them, I teased them for their overpriced phones with inferior battery life.
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This is probably the best phone I have ever owned. I too had some friends ask about it judging it before knowing what it was all about, after showing them, I teased them for their overpriced phones with inferior battery life.
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Agreed, awesome phone, now with the US release I expect them to sell a lot of their phones in North America. I certainly love mine !!
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Since Huawei is the 3rd largest smartphone maker in the world, why not?
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First , I am a Chinese, so I am supposed to encourage you to buy a phone made by Chinese company, BUT I don't.
Why? Because Huawei is really not a company to support , if you speak chinese, you can get a lot of negative messages from chinese forum about how they do business, bad business ethic, bribe everywhere,etc. You will know how we dislike Huawei.
China development bank provides a huge financial support to huawei , so that they can offer you a smartphone or network devices with very low price, the money actually is from all chinese people,
of course, it is your choice ,but as for me and my friends, we will never buy any products from Huawei in life.
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First , I am a Chinese, so I am supposed to encourage you to buy a phone made by Chinese company, BUT I don't.
Why? Because Huawei is really not a company to support , if you speak chinese, you can get a lot of negative messages from chinese forum about how they do business, bad business ethic, bribe everywhere,etc. You will know how we dislike Huawei.
China development bank provides a huge financial support to huawei , so that they can offer you a smartphone or network devices with very low price, the money actually is from all chinese people,
of course, it is your choice ,but as for me and my friends, we will never buy any products from Huawei in life.
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I'm Chinese too, I didn't know that; I'm sorry about that.
If I knew that I would've picked something else.
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It's funny, I never even gave this phone a thought when I saw the specs, but (now here is the really funny part) after reading reviews of it on the OnePlus One user forum, and the price, I bought one and was really surprised how well it works for having "substandard" specs. It's fast, screen is bright, snappy, no lag, works quite well and that 2-3 day battery is REALLY nice. I could give two hoots if it has the latest greatest OS. JB4.3 is good, not buggy and works. Smartphones are my lifeblood for work and 4 weeks in, this thing has yet to let me down.
I use about 1500-2000 minutes per month on the phone, lots of web use, email, text and photos, and it's great! People are getting hoodwinked by thinking they "have to have" a device with the 2k screens, latest OS to do anything, but all they are doing is wasting money and getting 1/2 a day battery life. Hey, it's your money, but me, personally, I'd rather have some value for my money.
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First , I am a Chinese, so I am supposed to encourage you to buy a phone made by Chinese company, BUT I don't.
Why? Because Huawei is really not a company to support , if you speak chinese, you can get a lot of negative messages from chinese forum about how they do business, bad business ethic, bribe everywhere,etc. You will know how we dislike Huawei.
China development bank provides a huge financial support to huawei , so that they can offer you a smartphone or network devices with very low price, the money actually is from all chinese people,
of course, it is your choice ,but as for me and my friends, we will never buy any products from Huawei in life.
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Which brand is popular there in China?
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Which brand is popular there in China?
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there are a few. Xiaomi, coolpad, Lenovo, but to obey an unofficial command from government, all mobilephone based on android remove Google framework and apps in China
As the title simply asks, what are your plans for your HAM2?
I've created this thread 1) out of curiosity and 2) to show Huawei (if they ever see this) what a mistake they're making.
If you're sticking with your Mate2, vote for that! If you're going to sell it, vote for that and please tell us what your selling price is/may be, and what phone you're buying next. And if you're unsure, there's an option for that.
Hopefully this'll help other people make their next phone decision or get Huawei's act together for the US, who knows?
As for me: I'd like to sell it; possibly looking into a used Note 3.
UPDATE - 11/21/14
ANDROID LOLLIPOP WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THE ASCEND MATE2
Huawei Device is pleased to announce that Android Lollipop will be available for the Ascend Mate2 in the first half of next year. In light of your feedback, we have reassessed our upgrade strategy. We take our customers’ feedback seriously and want to ensure they have the best experience possible with the Mate2. The Mate2 upgrade will go from the current JellyBean directly to Lollipop. Huawei Device is committed to providing the U.S. market with the best products, services and features, and we stand behind the Mate2 and the value it offers. At its launch, the Ascend Mate2 offered a powerful, unlocked experience, with a 4G LTE ready, 6.1-inch smartphone featuring the most powerful battery in its class and panoramic camera. Today, the Mate2 continues to be an exceptional device for under $300.
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As the title simply asks, what are your plans for your HAM2?
I've created this thread 1) out of curiosity and 2) to show Huawei (if they ever see this) what a mistake they're making.
If you're sticking with your Mate2, vote for that! If you're going to sell it, vote for that and please tell us what your selling price is/may be, and what phone you're buying next. And if you're unsure, there's an option for that.
Hopefully this'll help other people make their next phone decision or get Huawei's act together for the US, who knows?
As for me: I'd like to sell it; possibly looking into a used Note 3.
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Buying the Nexus 6 when it becomes available, and after some of the reviews.
Will probably sell this or give it to someone in the family.
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Im going to keep it, its a really good phone, and there is no other phone with this battery!
Selling my HAM2, will wait a few weeks and decide between the Nexus 6 and Note 4
I'm also planning on selling my HAM2. I'm interested in the Nexus 6 but want to read RL user reviews. I also would like to see if there are any Google Play editions going to be announced soon that have decent screen size and big battery. Like most new Google phones, I suspect the supply chain for the Nexus 6 is going to take a few months to get enough phones out. Maybe Moto will be a nice surprise and get enough stock out early. I guess Huawei decided the North American market isn't worth the effort. Too bad. I suspect they've quit reading North American web pages after the reaction to their announcement about not updating to KK. (I really can't believe their callous responses to posts on their FB page. "Life goes on." Given that attitude, I suspect they're miserable at responding to warranty issues.)
I've only had my phone sim in it a few times, usually it's wifi only or sharing my tablet sim with my LTE N7 and unlocked AT&T Note 8. I have too many devices and need to move them. I want to go either with my Note 2 and 8, Note 2 and this with the tablet sim, or sell everything and go with an international Note 8 with the phone sim and a cheap T-Mobile branded phone for a backup with wifi calling.
"Wait and see" is what makes sense to me. The phone still has the attributes I bought it for. I'm disappointed that the phone is being neglected, but not sure I would have wanted the KitKat update if it had come. I had enough problems with various 4.4.x versions on the Nexus 4 that I would not have been an early adopter on the HAM2. I'm not exactly a fan of Huawei after the company's failure to adequately support their product, but I still remember that they freely provided the bootloader unlock code., something not many phone manufacturers do. So I think there are a few trade-offs involved.
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I'm keepin it because I can't find any other phone as of today that is worth selling this for to get a replacement. Maybe in 8 months something better will come a long but then again maybe in 2 months or something we will have CM. The only phablet I can see worth money is the Sony Xperia Z Ultra but I think this phone is more rounded overall. I was ok with JB last week before the announcement and I'm ok with it this week just sad. This is a $300 budged phablet I bought not no $700 phone I found out was not being supported anymore. For the $300 I paid for this the battery and phone is great. A 5.5 inch screen is not a phablet to me. 6 inches and up I need and if someone can find me a worthy contender I would gladly upgrade because i'm so mad at Huawei. But as it stands its actually in a class of its own.
@ScoobSTi I've read enough of your post to know your also going to ride this wave with me. Its almost cheaper to buy a phone from someone who is mad and give it to a developer.. hahahah JK..or am I.. hmmmm
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I'm keepin it because I can't find any other phone as of today that is worth selling this for to get a replacement. Maybe in 8 months something better will come a long but then again maybe in 2 months or something we will have CM. The only phablet I can see worth money is the Sony Xperia Z Ultra but I think this phone is more rounded overall. I was ok with JB last week before the announcement and I'm ok with it this week just sad. This is a $300 budged phablet I bought not no $700 phone I found out was not being supported anymore. For the $300 I paid for this the battery and phone is great. A 5.5 inch screen is not a phablet to me. 6 inches and up I need and if someone can find me a worthy contender I would gladly upgrade because i'm so mad at Huawei. But as it stands its actually in a class of its own.
@ScoobSTi I've read enough of your post to know your also going to ride this wave with me. Its almost cheaper to buy a phone from someone who is mad and give it to a developer.. hahahah JK..or am I.. hmmmm
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Thought about it more myself and it's still an awesome device and I think you would still get another year out of it. I may not get the latest android wear updates after April but Pebble said they are going to support 4.3+ with the next updates and I actually prefer my Pebble steel so I'm OK with that. Android wear has really been getting better lately and I'm excited to see what lollipop brings "Torn between two lovers, feeling like a fool" you know how the song goes.
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I guess I'm an odd duck. I'm KEEPING my Ham2.
The update means nothing to me. I had a 2+ year old Note1 still on 4.1.2 when I picked up the Ham2 in July, so updating isn't a priority.
I just want a device that works, is stable and has a great battery life. Ham2 fits that to a T.
I don't need bells and whistles, I don't play games. I use this as a tool for work. All my service calls are handled through a web portal,
I do a ton of email, text, scanning bar codes, few dozen photos of broken equipment etc. The OS on the device means nothing, as long as it is STABLE.I don't have time for FC's, reboots, lock ups, dropped signals etc.
Stable, battery life, good camera, clear screen, THAT is job #1 for a device.
As long as my Ham2 works, I'll keep it. Even if they did release an OS update, I'd hold off for at least a month, to make sure it was
rock solid stable before I were to install it.
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I guess I'm an odd duck. I'm KEEPING my Ham2.
The update means nothing to me. I had a 2+ year old Note1 still on 4.1.2 when I picked up the Ham2 in July, so updating isn't a priority.
I just want a device that works, is stable and has a great battery life. Ham2 fits that to a T.
I don't need bells and whistles, I don't play games. I use this as a tool for work. All my service calls are handled through a web portal,
I do a ton of email, text, scanning bar codes, few dozen photos of broken equipment etc. The OS on the device means nothing, as long as it is STABLE.I don't have time for FC's, reboots, lock ups, dropped signals etc.
Stable, battery life, good camera, clear screen, THAT is job #1 for a device.
As long as my Ham2 works, I'll keep it. Even if they did release an OS update, I'd hold off for at least a month, to make sure it was
rock solid stable before I were to install it.
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well said.
I will say, it will be hard to replicate the Mate 2 battery life on any other phone for a couple of years, I'd presume. While you can certainly get a better screen and a faster phone, there's nothing on the market that even comes close battery-wise. I can get 72 hours uptime with 9 hours on screen routinely on the Mate 2. The people who have good life with the Note are getting ~20 hours uptime with 6 hours on screen.
I seem to have been getting decreased battery life, even with constant app killing, scanning, etc. so if I do switch I don't think it'll make too much of a difference.
Plus, if I do go for a Note 3, it has wireless charging... and a removable battery...
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I seem to have been getting decreased battery life, even with constant app killing, scanning, etc. so if I do switch I don't think it'll make too much of a difference.
Plus, if I do go for a Note 3, it has wireless charging... and a removable battery...
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my battery has been perfect still. I get 2 days out of it on normal profile. and I had wireless charging on my G pro and it sucks trust me. it's not there yet
I'm going to hound Huawei until they replace this with a Mate 7
Ordered one this week let's see how it is or will return to newegg. Will be costing me less than $200 after I get rid of newegg and net10 gift cards.
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Ordered one this week let's see how it is or will return to newegg. Will be costing me less than $200 after I get rid of newegg and net10 gift cards.
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your going to fall in love with the phone just like all the rest of us. just hate the name on top
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Have decided to go back to my S3 as my daily driver. While I love the size and battery life there are just a few too many quirks that aggravate me, and one item that will be a show stopper in the near future.
1. 3rd party camera apps aren't working for me....the flash timing doesn't sync up with the shutter so you end up with dark pictures even though the phone does the double flash to focus and reduce red eye.
2. Lockscreen...ugh. Stock is nasty and the way the kernel works, replacements (I've tried a dozen plus) have delays that flash the homescreen before kicking in.
3. Screen resolution...yes, it's 720p but Huawei somehow twerked the configuration to where it's not properly recognized by many apps, especially Themer/MyColorScreen won't recognize.
4. Notifications...even with apps identified as "protected", i.e. they're not supposed to be killed when the screen goes off, seem to get cached/suspended and notifications stop.
5. Speaker...for media it does OK but as a speaker phone? Can't hear people on the other end even in a quiet room with nothing but ambient noise (yes, I'm deaf as all get out but the S3 speaker is so much better).
6. SD Card...has the damn restrictions associated with 4.3, apps like Zooper widget etc. that can back-up settings are only able to store to internal memory, not external SD. *This is from my experience so there may be something I'm missing to fix this.
7. Back-up...the stock back-up seems to work ok and a lot has been fixed with TWRP...BUT there seems to be too many issues and with nandroid/titanium not working from what I've read I have decided rooting and modding with exposed/busybox hacks is too risky for now.
8. The show stopper...My company is going to enforce encryption on BYODs soon to access email, etc. Ran encryption on the phone, looked successful, but when went to validate it failed then when I restarted the phone it went back to being unencrypted. I know 4.3 can be a bit tricky with encryption but my device is now marked as "unsupported" by my IT and will not be able to access environments.
Keeping.
Still love the screen and the battery life.
If the Mate 7 comes available next year for the U.S. market for under $500 that'll be my next phone.
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Keeping . It's the best device I've had , especially considering the price/performance ratio. I knew going into this purchase that the kit kat promise wasn't credible. If you want updates spend $600+ . This device fits the bill for a lot of consumers as is . Including myself . I have devices on kit kat and the experience on the HAM2 isn't hindered at all by the 4.3 OS . At least not for me , this thing is rock solid with outrageous battery life . What's the point of having bleeding edge specs with the newest OS if it doesn't even last a regular day ?? Always looking for a charge is so annoying . With this thing i don't even have a battery indicator percentage turned on , because no matter what i can't use up all the juice in one day even if i tried . I get at least 10 hours of on screen time per charge. Who knows, maybe Huawei is gonna fire back with a positive reply after their horrendous announcement . They've been very quiet on their social platforms , maybe they're trying to work something out with the big boys over in China . Just some thoughts .
Hi All
I bought a P20 Pro around October last year hoping I could make use of the 40MP camera for my latest hobby, microscope photography.
I really like Open Camera which works really well for the kind of thing I like to do. I've been very active on the Huawei forum at https://uk.community.huawei.com/ but have kind of given up trying to make the P20 Pro work in the way I want.
What I really wanted was 40MP RAW for 3rd Party apps and I've banged on for months now but got absolutely nowhere. During that time, I think I've got a bit of a feel for Huawei as a company.
If you have a suggestion, they say nice things like "hopefully it will be included in a future release". But there is no further feedback about any issue. I get the feel that what they want to do is innovate a new phone every 6 months but do no support.
If you check out the customer service reviews at TrustPilot:
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.huawei.com
You can see their rating is only 1 star with users saying they left 1 star 'cos you can leave 0 stars!
A few months ago they stopped offering bootloader unlock to "protect us". Well, don't you just love it when someone takes something away from you and tells you it's for your own good? Reminds me of being a child!
Do you know what OS I use on my computer? Well, any one I fancy! It's my hardware!
The above is all a pity because the hardware is excellent, but the software included not much so. For example, jpegs are over sharpened and there's no option to adjust this feature or turn it off.
The phone only allows RAW for it's own stock app. There's no feature in the stock app to save anywhere apart from Internal memory. I want to use the camera software on my LCD monitor, but through HDMI, the stock camera app doesn't rotate, so the image on the LCD is always portrait! I can fix this with Open Camera but there's no support for RAW which I need for heavy post processing.
This all might sound quite negative but I've enjoyed participating in the Forum and the nice administrators sent me a Joby tripod to review (which I kept) and a 10,000mah power bank to say thanks. The forum admins are very nice, but the one thing that does stick in my craw a little bit is to keep being chivvied along saying an update would be soon, but after a few months of hearing the same thing, you know it ain't never going to happen.
If they told me 3 months ago they have no intention of fixing the issues, I would have sold the P20 Pro and got something else, so a bit of a waste of time.
But any road up..... I spotted the Mi9 with a luvverly 48MP camera and started to read the specs and ask questions on this forum. It sounded quite good and I was in Spain last week so I bought one.
I'm still learning, but am astounded that the phone is so cheap and in many ways, better than any Huawei phone, even the P30 Pro particularly with benchmarks. The battery in the P20 Pro is 4000mah and the Mi9 only 3300mah so which is better? Well, according to gsmarena, the Mi9 lasts longer as the Huawei Kirin chipset runs so hot. Maybe the P20 Pro is better if you fancy a fried egg?
But the real game changer for me is, of course the ability to unlock the bootloader and then the availability of ROMs. I'm still learning, but Xiaomi seem to like feedback and are offering weekly dev builds. In the 4 months I've owned the P20 Pro, there have been a couple of security updates and a Pie update, but none of the features anyone has asked for. My latest update was the Feb. 1st security update which I got in March. Now it's almost April...
By contrast, Xiaomi release the source code of their ROMs on day 1 so developers love them! If you check out the activity on the P20 Pro XDA forum, it's much lower than the Mi9.
So as I say, it's all a bit new for me, but I have high hopes of getting a phone that does exactly what I want. Somewhere between the developers and Xiaomi lies the features I'm looking for.
All in all, a good move for me. I'll likely be putting my P20 Pro on eBay soon. Unlocked an rooted lol.
Sorry to drivel on.....
Cheers
Steve
The lack of activity on the P20 forum is more than obvious, nobody at XDA likes Huawei for what they did, and probably never will.
Yes it's a bit of a ghost town!
It did make me think that Huawei simply wanted to clear the developers out of their market but even the hardware support for ordinary users under warranty is appalling with customers being told their phone has water damage (on an IP67 rated phone!) and the customers saying it had never been near water. Phones coming back still broken and on and on.
I think despite their reputation for innovation, the lack of support will kill them in the future.
Well, roll on Wednesday for unlocky flashy flashy!
Keep Smilin'
Steve
Haha, Steve. You seem to be the cheerful one, I hope your happiness and cheerfulness stay with you. Just don't join any telegram groups and you'll be fine.
Yes better than yesterday lol
Why shouldn't I join a telegram group?
I know the Mate 20 pro re-appeared on Google’s Android Q Beta page, but I'm really not sure about what to do with the phone. It's great but the uncertainty is a bit worrying.
Is there anyone out there that has sold or is considering selling the mate20pro? If yes, which phones did you go for/are you considering?
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I know the Mate 20 pro re-appeared on Google’s Android Q Beta page, but I'm really not sure about what to do with the phone. It's great but the uncertainty is a bit worrying.
Is there anyone out there that has sold or is considering selling the mate20pro? If yes, which phones did you go for/are you considering?
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If you are going to change I'd wait for more 5G phones to come out
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If you are going to change I'd wait for more 5G phones to come out
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Fair point, but it's just that if I think like that I'll have to stick to the mate20pro for another half year or so, most other "flagship" android phones have already been released for this year.. I reckon that the S10 or S10+ are the only ones that come close to the mate20pro in terms of camera versatility, battery, size, and I'd also get the headphone jack, which is nice.
Still not decided whether to sell it or not. I could sell it for max 400 EUR now...
In case I sell Mate then probably will chose between OP7 Pro and S10+. Each has pros and cons, but certainly I will miss Mate's camera. And charging speed (ok, OP is close here). And 3D face unlock..
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I'm waiting for next years batch of 5G handsets
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Still not decided whether to sell it or not. I could sell it for max 400 EUR now...
In case I sell Mate then probably will chose between OP7 Pro and S10+. Each has pros and cons, but certainly I will miss Mate's camera. And charging speed (ok, OP is close here). And 3D face unlock..
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Right, same here - the only "real" alternative is the P30 pro :silly:
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I'm waiting for next years batch of 5G handsets
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So you'll stick to the mate20 pro for another 10 months or so? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, we might be lucky and they figure it all out in the next couple of weeks/months but it could take much longer and then the re-sell value of the mate20pro will be very low (apart from the risk of not having an updated Android version).
I have the same problem. Only phone what can change is P30 Pro but good one model, without reed, orange color problem in camera.
S10 Plus is finr but still no even close to Mate 20 Pro.
Im still on my Mate 20 Pro and I cant change it, because P30 Pro is still expensive for me. But the price is falling day by day for my Mate 20 Pro.
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Right, same here - the only "real" alternative is the P30 pro :silly:
So you'll stick to the mate20 pro for another 10 months or so? I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, we might be lucky and they figure it all out in the next couple of weeks/months but it could take much longer and then the re-sell value of the mate20pro will be very low (apart from the risk of not having an updated Android version).
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Only the Pixel will have Android Q this year anyway and it doesn't contain anything EMUI hasn't already got so why rush to change
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Only the Pixel will have Android Q this year anyway and it doesn't contain anything EMUI hasn't already got so why rush to change
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For me it's related to the security updates, maybe we'll stop getting them within a couple of months, we just can't be sure at this point. If that should happen (hopefully it won't!) the phone wouldn't sell for anything really, so it's sort of sell while it's still sellable.
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For me it's related to the security updates, maybe we'll stop getting them within a couple of months, we just can't be sure at this point. If that should happen (hopefully it won't!) the phone wouldn't sell for anything really, so it's sort of sell while it's still sellable.
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Yep, thinking exactly the same. Sadly for me there is no proper alternative right now.
OP7 camera is dissapointing (according to feedbacks on OP forums), it has ghost touch issues (probably SW related, so fixable)..
S10+ on the other hand has desperately slow charging, camera is good but still a no match for Mate's in poor light conditions
Well, probably will sell my Mate soon and anyway take one of the above devices. As you say, it may happen that in few months this phone won't be sellable
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All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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My point exactly it doesn't bother me
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All this fear for security updates. It's a phone, don't goto all those free download sites.
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My point exactly it doesn't bother me
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It's great if that works for you guys.
But it's a relatively new device, I'm not really ok with not getting security updates. There's a reason those are rolled out, and it's not just to protect users from shady download sites.
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It's great if that works for you guys.
But it's a relatively new device, I'm not really ok with not getting security updates. There's a reason those are rolled out, and it's not just to protect users from shady download sites.
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Be honest now, when have you ever checked security update schedules for any of your devices since mobile phones became common place? Before purchasing.
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people are worrying about Huawei a little too much, nothing is going to come of it, business will carry on as usual imho
cisco kidd said:
people are worrying about Huawei a little too much, nothing is going to come of it, business will carry on as usual imho
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Well, it seems they have just stopped or at least slowed down production dramatically
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...fter-blacklisting-reports-claim/#7db58d556eed
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Be honest now, when have you ever checked security update schedules for any of your devices since mobile phones became common place? Before purchasing.
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You are right, it's not the first thing I look at. The truth is that I started worrying more and more about security as I got older, probably because I have way more sensitive information now than I had in my teens (banking apps and stuff, emails, whatsapp which yes, I could all remove, but that defeats the purpose of a smartphone) - it's the principle that matters.
Also, another thing is that it could well be that in some months we all have to install Ark OS, which allegedly will work with android apps but that's not what I signed up for when I spent almost $1k on this phone.
It's like buying an electric car and after one year they tell you that it's a hybrid now.
Got an iPhone XS Max 256 GB and i love it ! I still have my mate 20 pro. Maybe I will sell it but I got used to iOS so quick and it is really good. I got a used one from swappa less than 800 and it works great. I’ve been an Android fan for some years now but I think I might like the iPhone better also I live in USA and iMessage is a must here. Don’t be afraid of using other OS. Camera is great as well. No night mode or ultra wide but the standard pictures IMO are more flattering and taking pictures it’s instant. I took a bunch of pictures and colored side by side and surprisingly I like the iPhones better. Just wanted to tell you my experience
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Well, it seems they have just stopped or at least slowed down production dramatically
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...fter-blacklisting-reports-claim/#7db58d556eed
You are right, it's not the first thing I look at. The truth is that I started worrying more and more about security as I got older, probably because I have way more sensitive information now than I had in my teens (banking apps and stuff, emails, whatsapp which yes, I could all remove, but that defeats the purpose of a smartphone) - it's the principle that matters.
Also, another thing is that it could well be that in some months we all have to install Ark OS, which allegedly will work with android apps but that's not what I signed up for when I spent almost $1k on this phone.
It's like buying an electric car and after one year they tell you that it's a hybrid now.
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All current devices will continue to receive security updates and access to google play, Future devices may not but as it appears Google and Huawei are working together. Of course everything published is negative is that not the way it always is? Doom and gloom first then reality. I just bought a P30 Pro on device upgrade yesterday for cheap 350 in canada and my mthly plan stayed pretty much the same as it ws prior, in fact I got more data , I am in Canada. I am not too concerned, in fact if I opt for the Mate 20 I can save another 100 but damn the 10x zoom is so appealing, yet to open box
I think this is not a really big issue, even if you can't get auto update on your Huawei.
Google can't stop you install the software
such a nice phone what a pity to throw away
I'll probably get Pixel 4 or Pixel 4XL somewhere in November - December. Don't want one more Chinese phone anymore.
Hi all,
Let us start the UK related discussion here.
Did anyone receive an email from Upgrade Programme UK? I did and it saying that I can upgrade on the 7th of August so happy.
Going for the 5G Model
From what I have seen I'll go with the upgrade from my note 8 this time. Hopes the UK get 5g variant especially with the pro model
I'm In.
Roll on Wednesday.
I'm in if the pro is 5g. Otherwise I am going to wait. I did see the subway shot yesterday online and my god it looks huge!
Will the UK get any perks?! Don't need headphones but earphones will be useful.
What time does the steam start in the UK?
My wallet is sat here itching to be opened....
I am planning to return my s10plus bought 10 days ago and preorder the note 10 plus..
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What time does the steam start in the UK?
My wallet is sat here itching to be opened....
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9pm in the UK
I see people talking about 5g. Do any of you guys even know the health concerns involved with the use of 5g ?
Even if I had a phone with 5g I would never use 5g.
Well it's your bodies so good luck.
Zionator said:
I see people talking about 5g. Do any of you guys even know the health concerns involved with the use of 5g ?
Even if I had a phone with 5g I would never use 5g.
Well it's your bodies so good luck.
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Guess you won't be buying it then!
We live in an age where wifi, 4g and other broadcast systems have been cooking our loafs for years. All phone have bluetooth yet we plug earbuds in without worrying. We survived Chernobyl!
I've seen arguments for and against. How do you know whats real and what is some keyboard warrior starting a rumour?!
https://news.sky.com/story/is-5g-safe-for-your-health-11732308
A vague news report but kinda explains it simplistically - basically if you have a phone glued to your head all day every day (as I read it), there may be concerns...
Of course who is going to admit there are issues now its live???? If we all grow a third penis from our ears, that'll be the result! (plenty have 2 already!).
I’m potentially looking to transfer from iOS, will be tracking this phone, against my past experience with a Samsung.
I don’t see any Android device that doesn’t have a compromise somewhere. Some of those compromises are dealbreakers for me. But basically, I’m bored of iOS.
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I’m potentially looking to transfer from iOS, will be tracking this phone, against my past experience with a Samsung.
I don’t see any Android device that doesn’t have a compromise somewhere. Some of those compromises are dealbreakers for me. But basically, I’m bored of iOS.
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ALL of the IOS compromises were deal breakers for me! I tried an 8+ 3 year ago and sold it after 2 weeks. Hideous os. I get why people like it for simplicity, integration and a wide range of accessories but the world has caught up now and offers android at least the same level of options with freedom and better functionality. Apple is very overpriced.
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ALL of the IOS compromises were deal breakers for me! I tried an 8+ 3 year ago and sold it after 2 weeks. Hideous os. I get why people like it for simplicity, integration and a wide range of accessories but the world has caught up now and offers android at least the same level of options with freedom and better functionality. Apple is very overpriced.
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I get it, I really do. But the Note 10 at the same spec as a XS Max is going to be similar in price. I might sound like a stuck record for iOS users but I will miss some simple integrations. Instant photo library sync, handoff with clipboard sync, I guess a lot of iCloud’s integrations.
So I have just pre-ordered the Note 10 from Samsung update program, received acceptance etc and email saying credit approved, but my account is now showing the order as cancelled??? Anyone else having any issues?
Ordered mine 10+ 5g 23rd delivery love the ai video and outlook integration
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...Do any of you guys even know the health concerns involved with the use of 5g ?
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Yes, we do. That's why we will be buying and using these devices.
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Even if I had a phone with 5g I would never use 5g.
Well it's your bodies so good luck.
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Be sure to stay at least 10 metres away from anyone holding a 5G phone for your own safety. If you want to carry a sign alerting people to your concerns, we'll be happy to give you a wide berth should we see you out in public.
I have just pre-ordered the Note 10+ 5G 512GB model went for Black
Just ordered the 512Gb 5G model through the upgrade program. Was surprised no 1 Tb Model was available. Hoping they will announce more then the cashback for the Note 10. They did that last time for the Note 9 and extra cash back instead of a preorder offer is getting annoying a little..
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So I have just pre-ordered the Note 10 from Samsung update program, received acceptance etc and email saying credit approved, but my account is now showing the order as cancelled??? Anyone else having any issues?
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Nope, mine looks fine
Cant believe I doesnt come with a preorder deal. Dint see the point really. I bet the US again get something great and were stuck with the rubbish end yet again