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Hi XDA Friends
Below is an eye opener that I think got me convinced not to buy POCO- check out why:
I keep on hearing bad thing in my area about POCO from advanced users who judged the phone only by it's specification.
They told me that indeed the CPU/SoC (Snapdragon 845) is a great stuff but the phone as a whole makes no sense cause:
1. No NFC and no OIS (optical image stabilization)
2. Not so good cameras (Xiaomi used to delived better camers to other devices)
3. Every other part of the phone except the Snapdragon 845 which is currently the best Snapdragon on the market is making huge distance to that quiality of the CPU. Basicly they told me that Xiaomi put a super CPU/SoC and a good battery into a budget phone so it is not worth buying.
4. They said that it's way better to buy Huawei Mate 10 Lite or Honor 10 cause these phones as a whole are well balanced.
5. NO Amoled display screen, just IPS.
6. Xiaomi lured users to buy a phone with that Snapdragon 845 but as a whole it isnt a photo phone, a storage phone, a gaming phone. It's just and overpriced Redmi Note 4/5.
What do You think dear Friends?
People will find faults in everything. What were you expecting for $300? were you expecting Note 9 for $300?
you get what you pay for. for the price, this phone has good enough cameras, top of the line processor.
People will always b*tch about something. The phone is not overpriced at all.
androidbadboy said:
3. Every other part of the phone except the Snapdragon 845 which is currently the best Snapdragon on the market is making huge distance to that quiality of the CPU. Basicly they told me that Xiaomi put a super CPU/SoC and a good battery into a budget phone so it is not worth buying.
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tell them , this is the reason why this phone is worth buying. Those Huawei phones dont allow bootloader unlock, so f*ck Huawei. Huawei came to xda, and when the became popular they just locked them bootloaders and left.
also, change the title on your thread. stop with the click bait, drama creating titles.
munchy_cool said:
People will find faults in everything. What were you expecting for $300? were you expecting Note 9 for $300?
you get what you pay for. for the price, this phone has good enough cameras, top of the line processor.
People will always b*tch about something. The phone is not overpriced at all.
tell them , this is the reason why this phone is worth buying. Those Huawei phones dont allow bootloader unlock, so f*ck Huawei. Huawei came to xda, and when the became popular they just locked them bootloaders and left.
also, change the title on your thread. stop with the click bait, drama creating titles.
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Thanks dude, I will tell them.
PLease dont make me a drama king cause I really hate to give such titles but here at XDA we all are like a huge family and I believe we should take care of each other hence this tittle.
Look difrently if someone wants this phone real bad that topic wont stop him.
Please be more understading!
androidbadboy said:
Thanks dude, I will tell them.
PLease dont make me a drama king cause I really hate to give such titles but here at XDA we all are like a huge family and I believe we should take care of each other hence this tittle.
Look difrently if someone wants this phone real bad that topic wont stop him.
Please be more understading!
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Then your title should be
is the poco f1 overpriced?
this title which you have
"Read this thread before you buy POCO"
is absolute BS of a title.
munchy_cool said:
Then your title should be
is the poco f1 overpriced?
this title which you have
"Read this thread before you buy POCO"
is absolute BS of a title.
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I disagree dude. These advanced users never mentioned price. It's not about it, its about the balance of all components.
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I disagree dude. These advanced users never mentioned price. It's not about it, its about the balance of all components.
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what your advanced users are looking for is a $750 phone for $300 which will never happen.
There is a reason why the Pixel, S9, Note 9 cost what they cost.
dont change the title. this thread will die like many such on xda.
munchy_cool said:
what your advanced users are looking for is a $750 phone for $300 which will never happen.
There is a reason why the Pixel, S9, Note 9 cost what they cost.
dont change the title. this thread will die like many such on xda.
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I agree about they money but they claim that this phone isnt worth even this $300. Either You buy something cheaper or something much more expensive. This phone is like a planet without a sun. No purpose at all.
This guys just a troll don't listen to him he probably bought honour play Or mia2 and is regretting it and crying like a *****...
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This guys just a troll don't listen to him he probably bought honour play Or mia2 and is regretting it and crying like a *****...
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Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Dude. Let's not start a fight. It will get us nowhere. If You would like to know I preordered POCO a couple of days ago and I always have the chance of canceling.
Dude seriously??? Did you just came after watching some BS drop tests and all on youtube, that made you these thoughts?? You don't need to be smart to see if you drop your phone what will happen?? And geez Snapdragon 845 is the main purpose all are buying this device, Name any device in the same price 300$ or lower which is better than this or at least competes with this?? Seriously i saw only one guy hating it thinking like it could be xiaomi's strategy to make people in trap, I met many people who already bought this and are all happy to thw fullest and 0% people complaining which I personally know.
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One more thing it would have be great if you first bought the device yourself and experience and then share it rather than competing with the guys who already own this beast and are happy.
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And none of your points make any sense about soc and battery are senseless and for NFC personally in my country it's waste and no one gives shi*s it's useless.
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Dude seriously??? Did you just came after watching some BS drop tests and all on youtube, that made you these thoughts?? You don't need to be smart to see if you drop your phone what will happen?? And geez Snapdragon 845 is the main purpose all are buying this device, Name any device in the same price 300$ or lower which is better than this or at least competes with this?? Seriously i saw only one guy hating it thinking like it could be xiaomi's strategy to make people in trap, I met many people who already bought this and are all happy to thw fullest and 0% people complaining which I personally know.
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One more thing it would have be great if you first bought the device yourself and experience and then share it rather than competing with the guys who already own this beast and are happy.
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I'm just saying that my these advanced users do make valid points.
Why do You think I ordered this phone in the fist place? Casue of Snapdragon 845 and I am not campaning against POCO. I;m just leaving this message for pleeople that have a big imagination.
Personaly, I'd like to have it but I care about XDA users and I respect others opinion. So chill dude, please.
I don't have the phone but will be ordering it as soon as possible.
The lack of NFC doesn't bother me since I have never used it in my entire life. Not having OIS is a bit disappointing but whatever, I never take pictures in low light so that doesn't matter too much.
AFAIK the cameras are still pretty decent, or at least that's what the reviews seem to suggest. I watched some camera comparisons with the OnePlus 6 and they both seemed equally matched, more or less.
I would never buy a Huawei phone for the same reason someone mentioned above, betraying the entire dev community like a bunch of assholes. No bootloader unlock means no sale!
I am glad there are still high-specced phones out there with IPS panels. My eyes are extremely sensitive to the Pulse-Width Modulation (PWM) used in OLED panels to regulate brightness. My Axon 7 caused me months of headaches and eyestrain until I realised that's what was causing the problem. Never again will I buy another AMOLED phone unless they figure out how to get rid of PWM.
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I don't have the phone but will be ordering it as soon as possible.
The lack of NFC doesn't bother me since I have never used it in my entire life. Not having OIS is a bit disappointing but whatever, I never take pictures in low light so that doesn't matter too much.
AFAIK the cameras are still pretty decent, or at least that's what the reviews seem to suggest. I watched some camera comparisons with the OnePlus 6 and they both seemed equally matched, more or less.
I would never buy a Huawei phone for the same reason someone mentioned above, betraying the entire dev community like a bunch of assholes. No bootloader unlock means no sale!
I am glad there are still high-specced phones out there with IPS panels. My eyes are extremely sensitive to the Pulse-Width Modulation (PWM) used in OLED panels to regulate brightness. My Axon 7 caused me months of headaches and eyestrain until I realised that's what was causing the problem. Never again will I buy another AMOLED phone unless they figure out how to get rid of PWM.
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so POCO is geat for You, Im happy to hear that. BTW You're the first person saying that dosnt like amoled
I kind of disagree with the post, several reviewers have rated the phone well on most counts, I am not a tech reviwer but an enthusiast who spends money to experience the new and the nice in tech.
Any phone has shortcomings, and so has this but imagine what you are paying for those, the curved screens on galaxy devices is effectively one of the things what one pays the premium for yet the real world functionality remains arguable. Having said that let me state whats amazing about this phone in my hands on experience so far.
1. Photo quality and Camera speed, the camera launches quick, snaps quick, the ai detection is fast and accurate and pictures are good with or without ai and hdr
2. Phone handling, single handed use, comfort, the phone gets this right. Face unlock, finger prints unlock are both very fast, the raise to wake feature is super useful. It does not feel a cheap phone by any means.
3. Battery life is too early to judge but my first charge has gone 30 hours with 3 hours screen time in a very bad reception area. (still at 50%)
4. The screen quality, contrast and outdoor usage all are at par with the good screens around. No complaints there yet.
5. The software on board is fast and functional, gestures work well plenty of settings to customize, the stock poco launcher is certainly better than what you see on Redmi phones
The minor annoyances come from the following
1. The curve at the bottom of the bottom could have been smaller, its not stopping anything functionally but just feels a bit more than needed.
2. Notification icons don't show up on the notification bar
3. Icons don't seem to have an option to resize. Nothing that another launcher won't solve.
Some may think its not a gaming phone, or a camera phone, why don't we think its a functional phone which ticks all the boxes without trying to be the master of one, the phone does everything well. If you must compare the phone, do so against the flagships and see how many contests it fights well, don't compare it to the midrange phones because it just bests them in all areas.
In an analogy form this phone is a new heavyweight boxer that can stand its ground well in the ring.
If someone has only 300$ to spend, they must buy this, if one has 250$ to spend, this is worth the 50$ extra if one can manage, if someone has 400$ or more they would not regret spending 300 here, though they are free to spend the extra bit on whatever feature specific phone they would like.
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Man, people say some funny stuffs that we can't know if it's serious or not. NFC isn't a deal breaker for many many people. The camera uses the same sensor as Mi 8, Mi Mix 2S, Vivo NEX S, Asus Zenfone 5z that are so much expensive. The lack of OIS is not the end of the world and if a person want it so just spend more money for that.
A lot of flagships has 3000, 3000, 3400mAh and Pocophone has 4000mAh and it's not good enough.
AMOLED? Really? Even Mi Mix 2S don't have it, LG G7 doesn't have it, Xperia XZ2 don't have it and some others. They are all much more expensive and don't have it. The important thing is that Pocophone has a good quality IPS display.
The phone has good screen, good battery life, good camera, it's well made, stellar UFS storage, stellar memory speed and stellar SoC and people complain. If someone wants stellar everything, so go buy a phone that is double or triple the price. The phone gives us more than we pay for sure. There are a lot of phones in the market that is medium to good in everything and costs around $300.
As person who have poco phone and Note 8 , i have to humbly disagree OP's points
1. NFC is good to have but not a necessity but personally i have far better option (Called note 8) and also we so called advances users would have over specs 1000 times before buying any device be it poco f1
2. It has good camera(s) with 1.9 and 2.0 aperture lenses with sony IMX sensors and for price point they do great in good lighting conditions and OIS is again good option to have but not a must.
3. Not sure how to answer that question as you have done it yourself as XIaomi has put SD 845 SOC in a budget phone
4. DOn't have those phone to comment on them
5. Amoled is awesome as i have one of the best amoled screen on phone but this IPS LCD panel is no slouch adequate brightness and color accuracy
just my .02 cents
NFC - you will not find NFC in any device in the same price range, not even Honor Play and what you will do with NFC? I have had atleast 3 phones with NFC but they were useless because except samsung pay my country has no support for NFC payment.
2. AMOLED? Are you serious?? Does honor 10 has amoled? I have used LCD all my life and had no problem, only viewing angles are bad, why would anyone see their phone from sides btw? I have 2 ways of getting an AMOLED:
i. If I buy a mid range phone that has AMOLED and useless processors like SD450 or SD430 Cost - 300USD-400USD
ii. If I buy a high end phone that has both AMOLED and great processor - Cost - More than 700USD
Xiaomi's LCD screen is on par with even expensive phone's display.
3. Honor and Huawei are worst companies in terms of open source and custom ROM development. I had an honor 8 pro, these idiots said they will support development but after few months they flew away, now there is no method to even root the phone and last I had heard, Huawei/Honor will not allow bootloader unlocking.
4. Everyone knows that the camera is not good, it is called cost cutting, everyone here is buying Poco just for the SoC. I was going to buy Honor Play, but however bad poco's camera is, it is still better than honor play's camera and android Pie is certain but Honor nowadays is not even providing patches on time and with each new update a new bug arises.
5. And you are right, Poco F1 is nothing but Redmi Note 5 with a better SoC. And don't even mention Widevine here, I have Moto Z play, Honor 8 Pro, Mi A1, Samsung J7 Max and none of them support Widevine L1 and most of them cost more than Poco.
Your power users are noobs and not experienced people and you sir, either are a very rich guy, else you are extremely stupid.
your points are all invalid because the phone costs 300 bucks lol
Dude, you high or something? Change the damn title to "is Poco F1 worth the price?". You are not giving some top secret news about POCO. You are just sharing your stupid opinion which anyone can. "Read before you buy?". I have it and it's awesome. You just don't understand tech stuff a lot. 100000 people already has it. 5000 has posted 5* review on flipkart.
Just takes a few minutes to read the customer review before buying anything. Do that.
Is US$300 reasonable to buy a Xiaomi Poco F1????
@everyone
Good Day!
I come across all earlier contributions with good and bad comments on this particular Poco F1 ...... .! Bear in mind from the business point of view ask ourselves why US$300 on a snap dragon 845 ... surely might be wrong on this huh! Well, Xiaomi is adopting very aggressive marketing penetration to wipe all the heavy weights like Apple, Samsung, Huawei and smaller ones as well on this! Poco F1 hits them well just like that.
Everyone is entitled to his/her own experiences based on what one believing in the pros and con ..... bearing in mind how long will this lasts! Is just another phone US $300 justify your meets/want for 1-2 years before the next wave going to hit in the market maybe the Oppo or Vivo phones are getting ready to hit back at Xiaomi with more prudent and well built features in probably less than US $250 for soc 855 or 865! Not forgetting that idiot Huawei good for nothing "No bootloader unlock" phrase and many still reluctant players NOT willing to open up bootloader unlock ..... . will count them out.
Conclusion is based on every individual who thinks value for money, ease of operation, good OS (nothing is perfect at least 90% satisfied), NFC not necessary ... many others can do away with it, and end up simply with a price of US $ 300 is certainly the justification that I want with following rationales:
1. Can you still find another alternative or replacement unit with US $300 for a soc 845 ;
2. I can still do my bootloader unlocking but with minimum frustration (1440 hours or 61 days to unlock >> latest new!!!) with Xiaomi;
3. I still can have my custom roms later part ([RECOVERY] TWRP-3.2.3-x [beryllium], Tool/Utility for the Xiaomi Poco F1) or maybe OrangeFox .... . more custom roms will be available by then;
4. If I don't like custom rom I still can revert back to stock roms which is another alternative! Bearing in mind Xiaomi is making a great impact now and maybe the next 10-20 years future to stay more competitive; and
5. Target on this model may last me for a year or 2 ..... by then a much better model with higher specs would surface to take over Poco F1.
Till then Good Luck guys! - -
Hey,
After an upgrade of my HTC U11+. A bit stuck to be honest on which one to go with as they all have big pluses and minuses. I think my ideal phone would be the mate 20 pro hardware with pixel software.
Will give my pro's and minuses below, please feel free to comment and advise as you see fit.
Mate 20 pro
++ Big battery
+ Not bad price wise (especially with the free watch)
+ cameras
+ nice colours
- Lack of updates??
Pixel 3 XL
++ best software
+ great camera
+ great update support
+ great speakers
-- average battery life
-expensive
Oneplus 6T (based on rumours
+price
+Smooth UI
+good support
- camera probably wont be as good as the other 2
-speakers wont be as good
+/- battery in the middle
Out of these three I'd definitely go with the Mate 20 Pro. the Pixel is boring and too ugly and no features at all (I wouldn't consider it at all unless I absolutely need their camera) , OP6 is just cheap price but is missing wireless charging, QHD display, IP68, stereo speakers, camera will be just average, AOD display, desktop mode, raise to wake, knuckle gestures, secure face unlock, etc. But if you don't care about those, the OP6 will be faster/smoother than Mate 20 pro and maybe their underdisplay implementation could be a little bit faster but we'll see
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
tsoureki said:
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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I'm really hopeful that we'll at least get root...... I've preordered the Mate 20 Pro and will be selling my Pixel 2 xl, hope I don't live to regret it! Worst case scenario I'll sell it and switch...
Well Pixel XL 3 is trash. I returned mine after 2 days.
Oneplus 6T is a bang for buck type of phone
Mate 20 Pro I'm having issues getting one imported
Probably didn't help much but aye.
Goronok said:
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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I think you hit the nail on the head regarding honeymoon period. I had (2) P20 Pro's and I loved the hardware/camera, but quickly became annoyed with the fact that EMUI just doesn't "work" as an android phone should. After using MIUI 10 on a Mix 2s for a few weeks, I would say that Xiaomi's derivative feels more natural to use. /sad
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*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Had someone on Reddit confirm that the lockscreen is still the same. Some have said it is a bug, but seems working as intended to me. (Been a "bug" since EMUI 8.1)
I haven't inquired about backgrounding issues. Not much point. This has been a thing with EMUI since day 1. (And other China OEMs too)
Thanks for the replies very helpful. I know the mate 20 pro is the best out of the bunch its whether i can live with EMUI. I had this in the past with samsung s6 edge, loved the phone but hated the software and ended up getting rid of it very quickly. I think if the pixel was £100 cheaper or had a bigger battery i would 100% go with that for the software experience.
The decision would be so much easier if they allowed bootloader unlock and custom roms would solve half the issues! Still no closer to the decision.
A couple of extra points
Mate 20 curved screen will be a pain for glass screen protectors so thats a -
Still cant work out if the UK model is single sim or dual sim! (says its micro sd expandable so is that where the extra sim goes)
I think the camera will be just as good as the pixel...in some ways better because of the wide angle lens etc. The pixel 3 probably will be the best point and shoot but I don't think either will dissapoint you
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
Phil750123 said:
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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See i went with sim free but what got me here is 50 quid more for mate, and free watch and charger is 250, so basically mate is working out 200 quid cheaper and 6gb ram vs the 4 and this massive battey, when pixie 3 battery is sitting at 3400 compared to my pixel 2 xl 3500 with a smaller screen? Impulse buy but hey, if we somehow hate it, or cant get used to it... Swap or sell after few months right? It aint a new car xd
It's very easy : get the pixel 3 and then youll want to get the mate 20 Pro for sure!
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Pretty excited about this as well, I'm pretty sure I will still average about 6000 mah a day, I almost always charge from like 50 to 90% using wireless charging while at work but for the days I forgot to wireless charge, the fact that even if I get home with less than 5% and just plugging it in for like 15 minutes (instead of like 40 minutes like my note 9) and being back to like 40% to finish the day is amazing.
I agree
Let me start by saying that I am not attacking his character or calling him clueless in general, but he is obviously amateur to when it comes to using Huawei's phones.
I always thought the results he gets from his P30 Pro are way off when compared to the results other reviewers get from their phones, or from the ones I get from my P30 Pro. They're always overly saturated with tons of contrast. And I never understood the reason until I watched his OP 7 Pro vs S10+ vs P30 Pro camera comparison. And as someone who had the S10+ before this phone, and with my wife still owning her S10+, I know that 8/10 times, the S10 will give you the more saturated picture, which isn't the case with Mrwhosetheboss. Then I finally found out why is this the case with his phone, as it turned out that he is using the Smooth Colors option because he thinks, and I believe based on the name of the mode, it generates less saturation while using this mode. He mentioned this twice in his review, so it's obvious he uses this mode all the time, thus why the P30 Pro in this test lost miserably to the S10 and OP 7 Pro, as the P30 Pro pictures were coming out extremely cartoonish with crushed details in the shadows as if you're using a vignette filter all over your pictures.
I believe that while Huawei are taking these so called professional reviewers on cruise trips all over Europe, they also should educate them on how to use their phones so that they won't spread misinformation to the masses without them realizing that they're doing that.
I apologize for the longass rant, and for my average English.
Finally someone will write something about this person. His tests are absolutely incorrect, I blocked him and I no longer look at his reviews
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Finally someone will write something about this person. His tests are absolutely incorrect, I blocked him and I no longer look at his reviews
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Maybe he got some extra money to judge like that..
All these paid reviews are actually not worth watching. Find those smaller youtubers who buy the device for themselves and test it.
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All these paid reviews are actually not worth watching. Find those smaller youtubers who buy the device for themselves and test it.
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It's a double edged sword. People who purchase a certain phone (usually because they are interested in it) can also often be huge fanboys of a brand/product, saying crap to validate their purchase, ie. "this $800 phone I just purchased is great, otherwise I'd look like a total idiot!"
That and the fact that they usually don't have the option to compare with so many phones since they have to pay for them.
But there are youtubers where you can easily spot the fact that it's a paid review in some way. Money weighs more than integrity for most people.
Of course
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It's a double edged sword. People who purchase a certain phone (usually because they are interested in it) can also often be huge fanboys of a brand/product, saying crap to validate their purchase, ie. "this $800 phone I just purchased is great, otherwise I'd look like a total idiot!"
That and the fact that they usually don't have the option to compare with so many phones since they have to pay for them.
But there are youtubers where you can easily spot the fact that it's a paid review in some way. Money weighs more than integrity for most people.
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The best thing to do before buying any phone, is watch few reviews from the YouTubers you trust, then head to reddit and XDA to read more from those who bought the device and actually used it.
He always gives positive critics on new products and then after some months stop support his opinion because he don't paid any more. Remember this, when mate 30 pro will launch he would say how incredible camera it has(even if it will have same camera as p30 pro)
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He always gives positive critics on new products and then after some months stop support his opinion because he don't paid any more. Remember this, when mate 30 pro will launch he would say how incredible camera it has(even if it will have same camera as p30 pro)
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The thing with the P30 Pro is that he obviously had been using this mode since day one, but until yesterday we knew why his pictures and videos were looking like crap.
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The thing with the P30 Pro is that he obviously had been using this mode since day one, but until yesterday we knew why his pictures and videos were looking like crap.
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I doubt he even updated his firmware. Most reviewers didn't hence why their videos are extra reddish.
Ultimately i guess, waiting a month or two for real reviews on xda or reddit would be the best.
But hye, most of us can't wait , get it on day 1 and regret about it later :laugh: Im quite happy with my p30 pro since updates are quite frequent and most of the color corrections are fixed.
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I doubt he even updated his firmware. Most reviewers didn't hence why their videos are extra reddish.
Ultimately i guess, waiting a month or two for real reviews on xda or reddit would be the best.
But hye, most of us can't wait , get it on day 1 and regret about it later :laugh: Im quite happy with my p30 pro since updates are quite frequent and most of the color corrections are fixed.
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I agree. The S10+ was the first flagship phone I have ever sold less than one month after owning it, and that was because I knew no matter what Samsung does, their lowlight photography won't improve drastically with software updates.
The P30 Pro was also a bit frustrating when I first got it, but from my experience with the P20 Pro, I knew Huawei was going to address the issues and more, and I am extremely satisfied with all the improvements Huawei has brought with their updates.
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I knew Huawei was going to address the issues and more, and I am extremely satisfied with all the improvements Huawei has brought with their updates.
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Would be fair if you rename or make any corrections to your own thread about TOF sensor. With latest updates it does work and hopefully is going to be improved in the future.
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Would be fair if you rename or make any corrections to your own thread about TOF sensor. With latest updates it does work and hopefully is going to be improved in the future.
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While I love my P30 Pro, I'm not going to be biased towards Huawei and give them a pass on something that is obviously not working, or at least not doing anything they promised us it will.
As you can read from the responses on that thread, the vast majority of those who tested my experiment of covering the tof sensor, are still reporting that either way, they came with the same results whether it's the camera app or the AR Measure app.
I'm on .153, and I tested everything, from portrait shots to aperture mode, to night shots, and also low light scenarios, and still, there is ZERO difference between the pictures I get when the tof is covered or uncovered.
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While I love my P30 Pro, I'm not going to be biased towards Huawei and give them a pass on something that is obviously not working, or at least not doing anything they promised us it will.
As you can read from the responses on that thread, the vast majority of those who tested my experiment of covering the tof sensor, are still reporting that either way, they came with the same results whether it's the camera app or the AR Measure app.
I'm on .153, and I tested everything, from portrait shots to aperture mode, to night shots, and also low light scenarios, and still, there is ZERO difference between the pictures I get when the tof is covered or uncovered.
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Try covering it when using thining /re shaping during video?
I think this goes for a lot of those 'celebrity reviewers' on Youtube, most of them are clueless and to be honest quite stupid. They simply review the unit to make money, if what they say and do is wrong seems to be of no importance. Personally i never watch those videos anymore, they have become more of a joke than something to take seriously.
/ Magnus
The P30 Pro's camera capabilities have come a long way if you factor in the improvements from .153 (and now .162 supposedly).
If some of these YT can ensure they're running the latest available firmware, it'll definitely help paint a clearer and more accurate picture but I understand this isn't always possible because of the timings of the video.
Coming from .124, I definitely noticed an improvement but not convinced if all these reviewers are also on it.
yes he is..you can see his latest review for op7p vs n10p vs p30p. seems obvious he is doing for the sake of money instead of real passion
My P30 pro has almost the same issue. Brown skin tones are applied to a heavy contrast effect making them look unnatural (not on smooth color)
This to an extent of making me want to sell the damn thing. I'm assuming it has to do with RYYB sensor. My kid ends up looking like decorated chocolate while the other one (who is on the fairer side) always comes out looking far better and natural.
But then again, Samsung sucks at snapping subjects unless they're completely still, which is next to impossible with kids.
My other gripe is not being able to switch to HDR with just a click instead of having to swim my way through the menu.
I'm hoping software fix is around the corner.
So Mr. whosetheboss comparison isn't all that wrong...his skin tone will ALWAYS be oversaturated, and I believe this is to do with the sensor.
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Finally someone will write something about this person. His tests are absolutely incorrect, I blocked him and I no longer look at his reviews
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Let me start by saying that I am not attacking his character or calling him clueless in general, but he is obviously amateur to when it comes to using Huawei's phones.
I always thought the results he gets from his P30 Pro are way off when compared to the results other reviewers get from their phones, or from the ones I get from my P30 Pro. They're always overly saturated with tons of contrast. And I never understood the reason until I watched his OP 7 Pro vs S10+ vs P30 Pro camera comparison. And as someone who had the S10+ before this phone, and with my wife still owning her S10+, I know that 8/10 times, the S10 will give you the more saturated picture, which isn't the case with Mrwhosetheboss. Then I finally found out why is this the case with his phone, as it turned out that he is using the Smooth Colors option because he thinks, and I believe based on the name of the mode, it generates less saturation while using this mode. He mentioned this twice in his review, so it's obvious he uses this mode all the time, thus why the P30 Pro in this test lost miserably to the S10 and OP 7 Pro, as the P30 Pro pictures were coming out extremely cartoonish with crushed details in the shadows as if you're using a vignette filter all over your pictures.
I believe that while Huawei are taking these so called professional reviewers on cruise trips all over Europe, they also should educate them on how to use their phones so that they won't spread misinformation to the masses without them realizing that they're doing that.
I apologize for the longass rant, and for my average English.
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Why u two rely only on him? Check more vids linus ranting Huawei all time because he is an a***ole because everything from china is s**t for him..
Best is to test device by self
he isnt boss, he is mrwhosethef*ck
With all this upheaval, what do you think about grabbing one while they're going cheap, used and good condition?
Im aware of the circumstances and that Huawei banning bootloader unlocking makes the situation even worse. If we could find a way to unlock the bootloader by unofficial means, I'd be happy to pick one up if there's decent 3rd party developer support
Could this be an opportunity or just a waste of time and money for us?
I've just bought one for £520 and it's only a month old. I'm prepared to take the risk for such a good phone and hopefully this Trump crap will come to an end soon
I have one sealed here myself but debating if I should have opted for Mate 20 Pro instead for worthwhile savings
Things could possibly reverse back to normal, if the ban goes full on, it could come to a total of $11m lost of business for the states with the companies combine, plus other possible complications, even regardless of that, and full ban on huawei, existing devices are not effected going by what Google have said
I got one before the 'news'. No regrets, it's a great phone.
Yeah i'd say buy it or get the mate 20 pro it's a better deal.
It has a better screen also
Although i don't care for that myself
i have a p30 pro love the phone but i am thinking about getting rid of it becaues of the hole ban thing i buy my phone off line every year and just tread my old one in so just looking at it from a money aspect
It's still worth every cent of the original retail price, let alone the massive discounts you can find. Its the best phone of 2019, and I've tried them all...
I agree. I'm watching a few variants on ebay, mainly the VOG-L04 model. If prices continue to fall, I might end up with more than one.
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I got one before the 'news'. No regrets, it's a great phone.
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Ditto.
I just picked mine up about to days ago. And I paid premium price for it. I was looking for the best battery life, performance and camera. I'm not really a fan of Samsung. I have no complaints with this phone. Other then I have a defective figure print sensor.
Bought a new one about a week ago. Could not be much happier overall. I don't necessarily need Android Q. The phone is working fine as it is. However this might be the last Huawei I'll buy depending on what happens in the future. It's very unclear future for Huawei now. For current phones I don't care though. This phone has the hardware I need that no one else has.
No regrets for me too. I bought it after the news came out. P30 pro is already a futuristic device. Huawei can always use AOSP and we can use alternative for Google services
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I picked one up over the weekend, new. I'm not too bothered about the crap - it's a great phone, will get Q, will probably get security updates, and will definitely get Play store updates - that's good enough for me.
And it's a matter of time before either of the countries blink and things go back to normal
Well, I just picked one up brand new here in Canada. Coming from a Pixel 3xl. Don't regret it one bit. Nothing wrong with the pixel at all, but it fell short in a couple areas within the camera that the p30 pro delivers on. I don't really care about the situation happening, I believe it will get resolved.
I bought my P30 Pro before the ban for full price.
I love the fact that it has a best in class camera that's the most versatile in the industry, 2 day battery life, the fastest charging speeds and just its overall gorgeous design.
I have no regrets. I don't take politics seriously and think the news and media puts this in a scaremongering light as Google and various US-based companies wouldn't want to lose out on potential revenue and business.
Can you guys imagine If Huawei and Honor, Xiaomi, OPPO etc. Get an agreement to make one OS to all chinese Smartphones, this way the devs will forget about Play Store, cause only Pixel Will left ... Since even Motorola and Nokia are from China now! Is pretty much the end of Android!
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Can you guys imagine If Huawei and Honor, Xiaomi, OPPO etc. Get an agreement to make one OS to all chinese Smartphones, this way the devs will forget about Play Store, cause only Pixel Will left ... Since even Motorola and Nokia are from China now! Is pretty much the end of Android!
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Just a little correction. Nokia is from finland
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Just a little correction. Nokia is from finland
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I thought that the smartphone division was sold to a chinese Company , maybe was Lenovo and Motorola .. my bad!
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And it's a matter of time before either of the countries blink and things go back to normal
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On the sidelines of the G20 summit in Osaka, Trump said “U.S. companies can sell their equipment to Huawei,” without going into detail. “We’re talking about equipment where there’s no great national security problem with it,” Trump continued. It’s not clear what this means for now, but it’s likely Huawei will be able to acquire basic components like Qualcomm processors and Google’s Android OS.
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I've been pretty happy with my Mate 10 but feel it's time for a change. Almost got the Mi 9T Pro but then specs for the Oneplus 7T emerged and that is now the favourite. Tried the Oneplus 7 Pro earlier but hated the curved screen. Mate 30 probably out due to the google apps nonsense.
Just wondered what fellow Mate 10 users have moved to and how it worked out. Or which device(s) you have your eye on?
Personally if it's confirmed that Mate 10 will be getting Android Q then it's a must keep for another year and maybe 1 more after that. Even without that It does all I need and more. Never been happier with a phone.
I'm a bit picky about the design of my phone, I hate curved screens, notch, teardrop, cut out designs. And Mate 10 doesn't fall into any of that. I don't like the current trends I just want compromise. But that's only personal preference.
Currently I'm holding off until the Mate 40 comes out next year, and when that time comes I'll start weighting things.
Good thing U have many brands to choose from but no need to rush unless u are having serious problems with your device, where I live the only choices are huawei and Samsung so I only upgrade when it's really crucial to do so, and that's not even close right now.
I hope this helped u. Peace.
My mate 10 pro will have an afterlife in the hands of my wife. :fingers-crossed:
But it won't be a Huawei anymore. Just because there is no development around these brand and that sucks.
For now I would prefer Oneplus devices. Also Xioami isn't too bad either.
Will see what the market has to offer next year.
I am fascinated by all the new devices that come out. But also I always come to the conclusion. that the Mate 10 (Pro) is still a very good smartphone that is very capable of keeping up with the new ones. Sure the wide angle and zoom lenses are great and also the SoC are better in Benchmarks, but at the end of the day my Mate 10 Pro can do all I need.
One reason why I decided to buy a flagship smartphone in 2017 was "I want a phone that can keep up for a while". I knew I didnt need the flagship SoC performance but I bought it so it would still be fast 2 years later. Now the time begins where I think I profit of paying extra in 2017. Thatswhy I'll keep it till it breaks, hopefully many years from now. I will soon order a new battery and replace it myself (while also changing my shattered back panel). Very happy with the device and Huaweis promise "wont slow down within at least 2 years" proved to be right.
I change device because i would reduce form factor, but with best camera
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Personally if it's confirmed that Mate 10 will be getting Android Q then it's a must keep for another year and maybe 1 more after that. Even without that It does all I need and more. Never been happier with a phone.
I'm a bit picky about the design of my phone, I hate curved screens, notch, teardrop, cut out designs. And Mate 10 doesn't fall into any of that. I don't like the current trends I just want compromise. But that's only personal preference.
Currently I'm holding off until the Mate 40 comes out next year, and when that time comes I'll start weighting things.
Good thing U have many brands to choose from but no need to rush unless u are having serious problems with your device, where I live the only choices are huawei and Samsung so I only upgrade when it's really crucial to do so, and that's not even close right now.
I hope this helped u. Peace.
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Personally, I love mine and I have no reason to upgrade. If I could pick any, I would still be pretty open minded as I don't do roms so bootloader locked isn't an issue for me. As long as it is pretty equal in features to price ratio and it has all the ones I need, gladly it can be my next.
It's amazing I've had my M10P for almost two years cos it's as new and fast as the day I bought it!
I gave my Mate9 to my wife then and she stopped using her Sammy for the M9. I wanted to get her a Y9prime but she wants the M10P so I guess it's the M30P for me.
I used to have LGs (G2, G3, V10 & G5) - the last two got affected by bootloop and being out of US, I wasn't entitled to a replacement. Those days, I flashed custom ROMs bi-weekly my favourite was Cloudy.
I didn't think I could survive with a locked bootloader but here I am 3 & 1/2 years after switching to Mate 9.
I will still stick to Mate series but I wish Huawei will create their own OS probably off Sailfish which means we can still install Google services.
If Huawei want to retain market share, they should unlock bootloader in devices as it'll not only keep us but also entice new users of their devices.
Talking about changing devices, I may go for the new P30 Pro.
But if I had to move away from Huawei all together, I'll consider the K20 Pro as an alternative - for me, it's better than OP7 Pro
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I think I may go for Asus ROG phone II or Xiaomi Black Shark 2 Pro
I'm going through the same dilemma. I usually change phones very fast. But its been 1.5 yrs with the Mate 10 Pro and there's nothing in the market that comes close to being a great replacement for this. My only problem now is that the updates haven't come in for 2 months now (US Version) and I don't think it'll get any more. I love the camera, speaker, bluetooth strength, Wifi speeds and just how smooth and fast it is even after 1.5 yrs.
But, if there has to be a replacement, then I might go for the Pixel 4 or jump over to the iPhone 11. Waiting for their announcements to see how good they are.
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I'm going through the same dilemma. I usually change phones very fast. But its been 1.5 yrs with the Mate 10 Pro and there's nothing in the market that comes close to being a great replacement for this. My only problem now is that the updates haven't come in for 2 months now (US Version) and I don't think it'll get any more. I love the camera, speaker, bluetooth strength, Wifi speeds and just how smooth and fast it is even after 1.5 yrs.
But, if there has to be a replacement, then I might go for the Pixel 4 or jump over to the iPhone 11. Waiting for their announcements to see how good they are.
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How do you feel now about the iPhone 11? The P4 is better according to leaks imo
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How do you feel now about the iPhone 11? The P4 is better according to leaks imo
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Still waiting to see what the Pixel brings to the table.
The iPhone 11 Pro has a wide angle camera which is the only thing missing in the Mate 10 Pro. Pics will be good for a flagship, and videos are the best as usual. iOS is not to my taste and the max I've held an iPhone is for 4-5 months (8 plus). Since nothing major has changed in iOS 13, I'm in a dilemma.
No more Huawei's for me, because just like any other manufacturer, updates stop coming after a point or are really slow. My Mate10 Pro hasn't received an update for 2 months now. Yeah, they've been much better than Samsung or LG, but that's nothing to boast about.
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OnePlus 7 seems like a good bargain nowadays.
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Still waiting to see what the Pixel brings to the table.
The iPhone 11 Pro has a wide angle camera which is the only thing missing in the Mate 10 Pro. Pics will be good for a flagship, and videos are the best as usual. iOS is not to my taste and the max I've held an iPhone is for 4-5 months (8 plus). Since nothing major has changed in iOS 13, I'm in a dilemma.
No more Huawei's for me, because just like any other manufacturer, updates stop coming after a point or are really slow. My Mate10 Pro hasn't received an update for 2 months now. Yeah, they've been much better than Samsung or LG, but that's nothing to boast about.
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I haven't been getting updates but I have 2 possible reasons,
A- not in the region I bought my phone.
B- been in repair for the past month.
Same for me I love the M10P but as my contract is renewing next month I thought about buying the M30P and just install the g services myself but I am not so sure about it. What would you all do buy the M30P or something else?
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Same for me I love the M10P but as my contract is renewing next month I thought about buying the M30P and just install the g services myself but I am not so sure about it. What would you all do buy the M30P or something else?
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I'd buy the M30P. If you were happy with Huawei than it's the best choice imo. I'd just wait for some real reviews to see if you really can get all Google services to work properly.
I won't buy mate 30 PRO, reason - notch. My next phone will have about 7 inches screen. I'm waiting for HONOR NOTE 20 but nobody can say something about release date. I wanted to buy HONOR NOTE 10, but there's a problem with B20 range and Jack 3,5mm.
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I won't buy mate 30 PRO, reason - notch. My next phone will have about 7 inches screen. I'm waiting for HONOR NOTE 20 but nobody can say something about release date. I wanted to buy HONOR NOTE 10, but there's a problem with B20 range and Jack 3,5mm.
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Why do U need a 7 inch screen?
If I was upgrading and sticking to huawei I'd rather get the Mate 30 (non pro). The only things I don't like are that it doesn't have QHD display and no support for standard SD card. And also I think it doesn't have dual speakers but I'm not sure. I'm holding off until the Mate 40 unless my Mate 10 become unusable.
The lack of Google apps doesn't bother me at all but for the average consumer it could be an issue.
I like to watch a films at my car during my journeys Larger screens are better for this.
I'm leaning towards the Oneplus 7T. It looks like the uk will only get 128gb but Wonda Mobile think they might have the 256gb version in November.