How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Xiaomi Mi A1's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.
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I will rate contrast only as 4 because ... OLED You really have no right to rate IPS panels anything above 4 stars by definition.
While not as good as oled, I'll say that the A1 has a good contrast. I've enabled software keys on mine and there's very little different of blacks between the software keys and the bottom chin of the phone. Even in low light environments. Called me impressed.
A1's black is worse than my previous Nexus 5X's black, which is also IPS
I had 4 Mi A1 in my hands and 4 total different displays. 2 Takaii, 2 Focal.
1 Focal is brilliant white and superb contrast. 1 Focal is good, good contrast and white is little bit yellowish.
Takaii is pure bull****. You will feel sad having a takaii and seeing a focal. No contrast, totally yellowish and one also greenish.
So this thread means nothing without telling which lcd manifacturer...
DieterFohlen said:
I had 4 Mi A1 in my hands and 4 total different displays. 2 Takaii, 2 Focal.
1 Focal is brilliant white and superb contrast. 1 Focal is good, good contrast and white is little bit yellowish.
Takaii is pure bull****. You will feel sad having a takaii and seeing a focal. No contrast, totally yellowish and one also greenish.
So this thread means nothing without telling which lcd manifacturer...
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I thought Mi A1 only had either tianma or ilitek displays. I have never heard of takaii or focal displays.
DieterFohlen said:
I had 4 Mi A1 in my hands and 4 total different displays. 2 Takaii, 2 Focal.
1 Focal is brilliant white and superb contrast. 1 Focal is good, good contrast and white is little bit yellowish.
Takaii is pure bull****. You will feel sad having a takaii and seeing a focal. No contrast, totally yellowish and one also greenish.
So this thread means nothing without telling which lcd manifacturer...
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Please remind us how this can be checked/seen?
DieterFohlen said:
I had 4 Mi A1 in my hands and 4 total different displays. 2 Takaii, 2 Focal.
1 Focal is brilliant white and superb contrast. 1 Focal is good, good contrast and white is little bit yellowish.
Takaii is pure bull****. You will feel sad having a takaii and seeing a focal. No contrast, totally yellowish and one also greenish.
So this thread means nothing without telling which lcd manifacturer...
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I'm interested in this topic, my Mi A1 has a bit yellow whites and dull blacks in comparison to my Idol 3 5.5 which has a standard IPS panel instead of LTPS IPS. My LCD panel is ilitek, isn't this panel the Focal one? I guess there is another parameter that gives this yellow tint.
Has anyone else had problems with the screen outdoors on a bright day and/or found any setting tweaks to make the outdoor screen visible?
Do you have automatic mode activated?
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xzpremium1976 said:
Do you have automatic mode activated?
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Yes it's on
My screen is visible even on a bright day.
I guess your setting is wrong or your device is defective.
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Has anyone else had problems with the screen outdoors on a bright day and/or found any setting tweaks to make the outdoor screen visible?
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I have put on a cheap screen protector, and during bright days, it is not the screen problem but the reflection from the screen protector.
Once i removed the screen protector(or get a very good screen protector), the display works perfectly!
I've no problem with brightness even in harsh California summer. Screen has good visibility when auto brightness cranks it to max brighteness outdoors. It's not as bright as my Galaxy S8 AMOLED panel though.
Put automatic brightness
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Hi I have the note 9 and planning on upgrading to the xperia 1 couple of questions if someone can help
1, am I been crazy thinking of switching is it much of a upgrade
2, is the xperia 1 camera as good as the note 9
3, also is the display as good as the note 9
4, are the stereo speaker as good
Only asking as I haven't tried the xperia 1 but might order it tomorrow I've read there is a few bugs here and there but sony are normally quite good with there updates so can see them getting sorted
Seen alot of youtubers saying the camera isnt all that good and is the xperia 1 a upgrade from the xperia xz premium because I had that phone and loved it
Thanks
I did not own a Note 9 so i will not be able to make a comparison.
About the camera, I like it, but you could not like it like a lot of people. Photos are detailled but noisy. So it dépends if you prefer washed out but clean photo or the grainy feel of a raw photo (with some process still). The app have some limitation, like no HDR when you set the focus manualy. Low light photo are natural and "as you see", not like night mode of other brands that let you see in the dark like in bright daylight. You can do that with the sony too, but the old way, in manual with long exposure and a tripod.
One thing I'm disapointed with is the X2 lens. x2.5 or x3 would have been slightly more usefull, also you can't choose it in manual mode except by pinching to zoom at x2. And also, it's not used in low light condition.
But in overall I was impressed by this phone and kept it after trying P30Pro, Nokia 9 pureview, Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, for me photo are what I'm looking for on a phone, for me P30 is not better for photo (well, if you want a x6 it is of course) but different. I think Samsung is maybe more like the Chinese brand with more color pop and more post processed photo (it's not bad, it's different, I do not make a judgement here). Also, the note 10 is around the corner, maybe wait for the test of this one too.
Hildr said:
I did not own a Note 9 so i will not be able to make a comparison.
About the camera, I like it, but you could not like it like a lot of people. Photos are detailled but noisy. So it dépends if you prefer washed out but clean photo or the grainy feel of a raw photo (with some process still). The app have some limitation, like no HDR when you set the focus manualy. Low light photo are natural and "as you see", not like night mode of other brands that let you see in the dark like in bright daylight. You can do that with the sony too, but the old way, in manual with long exposure and a tripod.
One thing I'm disapointed with is the X2 lens. x2.5 or x3 would have been slightly more usefull, also you can't choose it in manual mode except by pinching to zoom at x2. And also, it's not used in low light condition.
But in overall I was impressed by this phone and kept it after trying P30Pro, Nokia 9 pureview, Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, for me photo are what I'm looking for on a phone, for me P30 is not better for photo (well, if you want a x6 it is of course) but different. I think Samsung is maybe more like the Chinese brand with more color pop and more post processed photo (it's not bad, it's different, I do not make a judgement here). Also, the note 10 is around the corner, maybe wait for the test of this one too.
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I'm assuming all the niggly bits with camera can be solved with updates as sony have a good track record with update fixes?
Amoled note 9 it is low end next to the Xperia 1.
Xperia 1 have BEST display market.
Xperia 1 speakers have excellent quality and sound quite loud.
the camera is also better and uses camera technology to track eyes and 10 fps
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xzpremium1976 said:
Amoled note 9 it is low end next to the Xperia 1.
Xperia 1 have BEST display market.
Xperia 1 speakers have excellent quality and sound quite loud.
the camera is also better and uses camera technology to track eyes and 10 fps
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Is the display that good compared to the note 9?
Been seeing mixed reviews on youtube about the display and camera
I mainly use my phone for watching YouTube ect
Taking the odd photo
And music
I dont really game ect on a phone
brockyneo said:
Is the display that good compared to the note 9?
Been seeing mixed reviews on youtube about the display and camera
I mainly use my phone for watching YouTube ect
Taking the odd photo
And music
I dont really game ect on a phone
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http://m.ringhk.com/news2a.php?id=18649
Xperia 1 use Sony Bravia Master technology, best TV on the market
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xzpremium1976 said:
http://m.ringhk.com/news2a.php?id=18649
Xperia 1 use Sony Bravia Master technology, best TV on the market
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Thanks I'll take a look just everyone says the samsung displays are the best (displaymate)
my two cents - from Ex-Note user
1. Sound - Xperia Speaker is definitely more clear and has no distortion
2. Display - Both are good (No notch but both have bezel - In the race for all screen these two are not competing). Note 9 is definitely more brighter but the colors are just too much and over saturated, you can switch to the standard colour profile but still not accurate. Xperia is above average for brightness but the screen colour is just awesome and pleasing.
3. Camera - Both are not the best (But Note 9 has potential for GCAM mod, Xperia till date doesn't - Don't want to jinx it, but it may be a while before we get it either). The camera does have very accurate colors and the 21:9 video profile looks great on cinemapro. The camera basically comes down to your own taste as someone mentioned Samsung has very pleasing artificial colours, Xperia is more true to life and also has the super awesome AF for people photography. But note 9 has the variable aperture on its side
4. Battery again above average really depends on your usage, i do get a days worth battery when i am at work and less when travelling and using the display more (media consumption)
5. The LDAC and other codes are great when connecting to audio devices which use them (I am loving the WH1000MX3). Samsung i believe has only aptX and SBC (for most general Bluetooth cans).
6. S-Pen : something sony can never win, so if it was a part of your daily use, you will definitely miss it, i know i did when i moved from the Note 8 to a iPhone before the Xperia 1.
My colleague has a note 9. So could compare hardware, also i had the note 8, so the difference in usability is something i can comment on.
Hope this helps, overall both are great phones and the SD 845/Exynos and SD 855 - has marginal performance difference in real life use.
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I'm assuming all the niggly bits with camera can be solved with updates as sony have a good track record with update fixes?
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Like for all phones, anything can be done with updates, the only thing to know is if it's treated as a problem or a feature. Mate 10 Pro I had was really heavy on post process and thus the photo were really not realistic at all. Some liked it, some didn't. There were no update to correct it, even if mate 9 and mate 20 were far better and lighter on the post process.
So it's Always difficult to know if the future will change anything when you don't like something. For example, the fact that hdr/IA is disabled when focus is set by touching the screen where we want, and the fact that you can't disable IA manually without using the touch to focus thing, I cant possibly think they did this without thinking about it. So, it's the result of whole design process that lead to this choice. It's then hard to think they will change the way the app work because they already thought about it. (Luckily since there is a two step photo command button, you can do like with a classic camera to do the focus where you want without touching the screen, but it's not "smartphone user" friendly). Ho, also you can't tap to focus if you enable capture when smile detected.
Well, this long text to say maybe they will change the way it works, maybe not, it's not what we can call a bug.
About the screen, it's nice. I can't say about the samsung's one. A lot of labo test and review seems to say the S10 phone have a slithly better screen. It's true that out of the box the white balance is off on the Xperia 1, but you can change it to your liking. From what I saw in some YouTube video, the smasung panels are less natural and more Poppy colors, but we can't know for sure how the settings are set on both phone. It's like comparing two tv on a mall without having access to the settings to properly calibrate them. My advice here is more to not take what you see on YouTube like the graal. The screen is good and can be well calibrated. Doing comparison between screen is Always difficult without proper Tools, so a normal user will not see a lot of difference f not comparing the two side by side, and even then, the difference can be due only to the settings.
In any case, the Xperia is nice with the WH-1000XM3 bundled for 999€. Only the phone, or the phone and the 60€ cover for this price is really too high without the 350€ headphone bundled in. What I mean here, is that this phone value is more around 700€ than 1000€. It's a great phone I will keep for 2 years or more, but not better than others for the 700€ mark, just different.
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http://m.ringhk.com/news2a.php?id=18649
Xperia 1 use Sony Bravia Master technology, best TV on the market
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The official sony website say (in the disclamer in the Bottom of the specification page):
Xperia 1 does not cover the BT.2020 colour space in full
8 bit display with 2 bit software smoothing
So any review/website that talk about this phone without mentionning it can't be taken that seriously. This one is more like an advertisement taking line by line the specification sheet of the phone.
brockyneo said:
Thanks I'll take a look just everyone says the samsung displays are the best (displaymate)
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Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel.
This web is best
https://post76.hk/news/2019/06/sony-mobile-xperia-1-calman-test/
Samsung can not compete in quality neither on TV nor on mobile screens against Sony.
Xperia 1 use Rescue technology and converts sdr to hdr etc is technology of the Sony ag9 by af9 BEST TV market .
Samsung on TV makes QLED is a copy of Sony's triluminus and on phones does Amoled pentile poor in subpixels tecnology 8 bits sdr
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Depend on if u have note maybe u should waited note 10.
xzpremium1976 said:
Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel.
This web is best
https://post76.hk/news/2019/06/sony-mobile-xperia-1-calman-test/
Samsung can not compete in quality neither on TV nor on mobile screens against Sony.
Xperia 1 use Rescue technology and converts sdr to hdr etc is technology of the Sony ag9 by af9 BEST TV market .
Samsung on TV makes QLED is a copy of Sony's triluminus and on phones does Amoled pentile poor in subpixels tecnology 8 bits sdr
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Phone has just turned up side by side to the note 9 looks nice but very dim unless I'm doing something wrong
xzpremium1976 said:
Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel.
This web is best
https://post76.hk/news/2019/06/sony-mobile-xperia-1-calman-test/
Samsung can not compete in quality neither on TV nor on mobile screens against Sony.
Xperia 1 use Rescue technology and converts sdr to hdr etc is technology of the Sony ag9 by af9 BEST TV market .
Samsung on TV makes QLED is a copy of Sony's triluminus and on phones does Amoled pentile poor in subpixels tecnology 8 bits sdr
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Is the xperia 1 RGB or penitle?
Xz3 display already destroyed the note 9
https://youtu.be/xZjtj-eR8P0
I do not touch Samsung screens with the spen
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xzpremium1976 said:
Xz3 display already destroyed the note 9
https://youtu.be/xZjtj-eR8P0
I do not touch Samsung screens with the spen
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So the xperia 1 display is rgb or penitle? And is the panel 10 bit ect
Thanks
xzpremium1976 said:
Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel
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+1 Would be nice if they did smartphone screen test too.
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brockyneo said:
So the xperia 1 display is rgb or penitle? And is the panel 10 bit ect
Thanks
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I quoted the official specification before: not 10bit but 8+2. HDR but not all the BT2020 range.
I can try to find my microscope to look at the screen, because I can't find any review that show the pannel type.
Hildr said:
+1 Would be nice if they did smartphone screen test too.
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I quoted the official specification before: not 10bit but 8+2. HDR but not all the BT2020 range.
I can try to find my microscope to look at the screen, because I can't find any review that show the pannel type.
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Ah right cheers so the BT2020 isnt true? How can they advertise it has it?
Ya be great to see if its rgb or penitle
brockyneo said:
So the xperia 1 display is rgb or penitle? And is the panel 10 bit ect
Thanks
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RGB display 8 bits + 2
there are no phones with 10-bit display.
Xperia 1 is 10 bits for software
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brockyneo said:
Ah right cheers so the BT2020 isnt true? How can they advertise it has it?
Ya be great to see if its rgb or penitle
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Next Xperia 5k display And 10 bits
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brockyneo said:
Ah right cheers so the BT2020 isnt true? How can they advertise it has it?
Ya be great to see if its rgb or penitle
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From the link provided by @xzpremium1976 the pannel is 67.4% of BT.2020, 99.63% of DCI-P3 and 148.4% of BT.709. That's still pretty neat.
They advertise the ability to play files using this color gamut space I think. A classic SDR screen while just be grey-ish when playing a BT.2020 video (I it's what happen on my computer screen). And they still write down on their specification sheet that's it's not complete range reproduction. But well, untill not so long, screen didn't even reproduce all the RGB color range, and now you have a full DCI-P3 coverage.
Not related to the screen or camera. But I hightly recommend people considering this phone to try it. The 21/9 ratio phone is … unexpedly good in hand. I mean, I really had a hard time with the P30pro with its 19.5:9 ratio coming from a 18.5:9 ratio. But it was more about the curved edge (front and back). Plus a flat screen is less eye catching, but, for me, far better for content, since curved edge distort the image and create ray of light. It's the same with Samsung edge phone. Well, matter of taste here. But really, trying it is important here, I was bluffed, I never expected buying a Sony phone and was just trying it.
Hildr said:
From the link provided by @xzpremium1976 the pannel is 67.4% of BT.2020, 99.63% of DCI-P3 and 148.4% of BT.709. That's still pretty neat.
Not related to the screen or camera. But I hightly recommend people considering this phone to try it. The 21/9 ratio phone is … unexpedly good in hand. I mean, I really had a hard time with the P30pro with its 19.5:9 ratio coming from a 18.5:9 ratio. But it was more about the curved edge (front and back). Plus a flat screen is less eye catching, but, for me, far better for content, since curved edge distort the image and create ray of light. It's the same with Samsung edge phone. Well, matter of taste here. But really, trying it is important here, I was bluffed, I never expected buying a Sony phone and was just trying it.
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I'll have to have a play around more when I get back home creative mode in display setting makes the display quite dim when going to the other mode it brightens up
I'll try get a microscope and see if its rgb or penitle
Anyone who had both phones could help me?
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Check SomeGadgetGuy on Youtube, he has a lot of videos on both phones and V50 seems like the better overall phone
Xperia 1 no like chuby phones
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LG V50 is a nice phone but Sony Xperia 1 has the simplicity that facilitates the use and gives a feeling of lightness in the interface that satisfies.
The screen and cameras (all 4) I felt better on Xperia.
V50 easy
when you use a Sony oled you no longer want to use another smartphone
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xzpremium1976 said:
when you use a Sony oled you no longer want to use another smartphone
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Not true, my pixel 4 XL screen is just as good
Mackay53 said:
Not true, my pixel 4 XL screen is just as good
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Not even close... Principally reds and darker greys.
Sent from my Sony Xperia XZ2!
Luhccas-X10 said:
Not even close... Principally reds and darker greys.
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I've got them side by side, it's just as good
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I've got them side by side, it's just as good
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I gave up on getting Pixel 4XL right after seeing them side by side displaying a video and after seeing a few dozen photos.
You probably got a (Xperia 1) unit that was not well inspected in the quality test, because the difference is remarkable.
From the uniformity to the shades of red and gray (and other colors as well), me and all who were seeing together agreed that the screen on Xperia 1 was far superior.
The quality of Pixel's screen is on 7.5/10, Sony 9.5/10.
Luhccas-X10 said:
I gave up on getting Pixel 4XL right after seeing them side by side displaying a video and after seeing a few dozen photos.
You probably got a (Xperia 1) unit that was not well inspected in the quality test, because the difference is remarkable.
From the uniformity to the shades of red and gray (and other colors as well), me and all who were seeing together agreed that the screen on Xperia 1 was far superior.
The quality of Pixel's screen is on 7.5/10, Sony 9.5/10.
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I'm surprised you gave up considering one just on the screen considering software and camera are miles ahead on the pixel
I disagree about the screen but it's just down to opinions at the end of the day. Same could be said about the pixel screen as you could of compared it to one that was not well inspected in the quality test.
Mackay53 said:
I'm surprised you gave up considering one just on the screen considering software and camera are miles ahead on the pixel
I disagree about the screen but it's just down to opinions at the end of the day. Same could be said about the pixel screen as you could of compared it to one that was not well inspected in the quality test.
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Not only the screen! This is the first thing I take into consideration, but there are several other factors that make me prefer the Sony system over pure Android.
And yes, in the end it's all preference.
From the screen to the user experience. (finishing too)
Mackay53 said:
I'm surprised you gave up considering one just on the screen considering software and camera are miles ahead on the pixel
I disagree about the screen but it's just down to opinions at the end of the day. Same could be said about the pixel screen as you could of compared it to one that was not well inspected in the quality test.
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Both phone are very good, they just have different weaknesses and qualities.
If you don't like your Xperia 1, just sell your phone and go troll elsewhere....
nreuge said:
Both phone are very good, they just have different weaknesses and qualities.
If you don't like your Xperia 1, just sell your phone and go troll elsewhere....
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Trolling for having an opinion? Nah it's more like you trolling cause you can't accept an opinion that goes against the X1
nreuge said:
Both phone are very good, they just have different weaknesses and qualities.
If you don't like your Xperia 1, just sell your phone and go troll elsewhere....
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He Is a troll no have Xperia 1
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xzpremium1976 said:
He Is a troll no have Xperia 1
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Already proven to you ages ago I had one so get over it.
You're also another one who can't accept others views if it goes against the Xperia 1.
We must respect the friend's opinion.
He did not mock Xperia 1, just exposed his preference without attacking anyone.