Hi I have the note 9 and planning on upgrading to the xperia 1 couple of questions if someone can help
1, am I been crazy thinking of switching is it much of a upgrade
2, is the xperia 1 camera as good as the note 9
3, also is the display as good as the note 9
4, are the stereo speaker as good
Only asking as I haven't tried the xperia 1 but might order it tomorrow I've read there is a few bugs here and there but sony are normally quite good with there updates so can see them getting sorted
Seen alot of youtubers saying the camera isnt all that good and is the xperia 1 a upgrade from the xperia xz premium because I had that phone and loved it
Thanks
I did not own a Note 9 so i will not be able to make a comparison.
About the camera, I like it, but you could not like it like a lot of people. Photos are detailled but noisy. So it dépends if you prefer washed out but clean photo or the grainy feel of a raw photo (with some process still). The app have some limitation, like no HDR when you set the focus manualy. Low light photo are natural and "as you see", not like night mode of other brands that let you see in the dark like in bright daylight. You can do that with the sony too, but the old way, in manual with long exposure and a tripod.
One thing I'm disapointed with is the X2 lens. x2.5 or x3 would have been slightly more usefull, also you can't choose it in manual mode except by pinching to zoom at x2. And also, it's not used in low light condition.
But in overall I was impressed by this phone and kept it after trying P30Pro, Nokia 9 pureview, Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, for me photo are what I'm looking for on a phone, for me P30 is not better for photo (well, if you want a x6 it is of course) but different. I think Samsung is maybe more like the Chinese brand with more color pop and more post processed photo (it's not bad, it's different, I do not make a judgement here). Also, the note 10 is around the corner, maybe wait for the test of this one too.
Hildr said:
I did not own a Note 9 so i will not be able to make a comparison.
About the camera, I like it, but you could not like it like a lot of people. Photos are detailled but noisy. So it dépends if you prefer washed out but clean photo or the grainy feel of a raw photo (with some process still). The app have some limitation, like no HDR when you set the focus manualy. Low light photo are natural and "as you see", not like night mode of other brands that let you see in the dark like in bright daylight. You can do that with the sony too, but the old way, in manual with long exposure and a tripod.
One thing I'm disapointed with is the X2 lens. x2.5 or x3 would have been slightly more usefull, also you can't choose it in manual mode except by pinching to zoom at x2. And also, it's not used in low light condition.
But in overall I was impressed by this phone and kept it after trying P30Pro, Nokia 9 pureview, Oppo Reno 10x Zoom, for me photo are what I'm looking for on a phone, for me P30 is not better for photo (well, if you want a x6 it is of course) but different. I think Samsung is maybe more like the Chinese brand with more color pop and more post processed photo (it's not bad, it's different, I do not make a judgement here). Also, the note 10 is around the corner, maybe wait for the test of this one too.
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I'm assuming all the niggly bits with camera can be solved with updates as sony have a good track record with update fixes?
Amoled note 9 it is low end next to the Xperia 1.
Xperia 1 have BEST display market.
Xperia 1 speakers have excellent quality and sound quite loud.
the camera is also better and uses camera technology to track eyes and 10 fps
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xzpremium1976 said:
Amoled note 9 it is low end next to the Xperia 1.
Xperia 1 have BEST display market.
Xperia 1 speakers have excellent quality and sound quite loud.
the camera is also better and uses camera technology to track eyes and 10 fps
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Is the display that good compared to the note 9?
Been seeing mixed reviews on youtube about the display and camera
I mainly use my phone for watching YouTube ect
Taking the odd photo
And music
I dont really game ect on a phone
brockyneo said:
Is the display that good compared to the note 9?
Been seeing mixed reviews on youtube about the display and camera
I mainly use my phone for watching YouTube ect
Taking the odd photo
And music
I dont really game ect on a phone
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http://m.ringhk.com/news2a.php?id=18649
Xperia 1 use Sony Bravia Master technology, best TV on the market
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http://m.ringhk.com/news2a.php?id=18649
Xperia 1 use Sony Bravia Master technology, best TV on the market
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Thanks I'll take a look just everyone says the samsung displays are the best (displaymate)
my two cents - from Ex-Note user
1. Sound - Xperia Speaker is definitely more clear and has no distortion
2. Display - Both are good (No notch but both have bezel - In the race for all screen these two are not competing). Note 9 is definitely more brighter but the colors are just too much and over saturated, you can switch to the standard colour profile but still not accurate. Xperia is above average for brightness but the screen colour is just awesome and pleasing.
3. Camera - Both are not the best (But Note 9 has potential for GCAM mod, Xperia till date doesn't - Don't want to jinx it, but it may be a while before we get it either). The camera does have very accurate colors and the 21:9 video profile looks great on cinemapro. The camera basically comes down to your own taste as someone mentioned Samsung has very pleasing artificial colours, Xperia is more true to life and also has the super awesome AF for people photography. But note 9 has the variable aperture on its side
4. Battery again above average really depends on your usage, i do get a days worth battery when i am at work and less when travelling and using the display more (media consumption)
5. The LDAC and other codes are great when connecting to audio devices which use them (I am loving the WH1000MX3). Samsung i believe has only aptX and SBC (for most general Bluetooth cans).
6. S-Pen : something sony can never win, so if it was a part of your daily use, you will definitely miss it, i know i did when i moved from the Note 8 to a iPhone before the Xperia 1.
My colleague has a note 9. So could compare hardware, also i had the note 8, so the difference in usability is something i can comment on.
Hope this helps, overall both are great phones and the SD 845/Exynos and SD 855 - has marginal performance difference in real life use.
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I'm assuming all the niggly bits with camera can be solved with updates as sony have a good track record with update fixes?
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Like for all phones, anything can be done with updates, the only thing to know is if it's treated as a problem or a feature. Mate 10 Pro I had was really heavy on post process and thus the photo were really not realistic at all. Some liked it, some didn't. There were no update to correct it, even if mate 9 and mate 20 were far better and lighter on the post process.
So it's Always difficult to know if the future will change anything when you don't like something. For example, the fact that hdr/IA is disabled when focus is set by touching the screen where we want, and the fact that you can't disable IA manually without using the touch to focus thing, I cant possibly think they did this without thinking about it. So, it's the result of whole design process that lead to this choice. It's then hard to think they will change the way the app work because they already thought about it. (Luckily since there is a two step photo command button, you can do like with a classic camera to do the focus where you want without touching the screen, but it's not "smartphone user" friendly). Ho, also you can't tap to focus if you enable capture when smile detected.
Well, this long text to say maybe they will change the way it works, maybe not, it's not what we can call a bug.
About the screen, it's nice. I can't say about the samsung's one. A lot of labo test and review seems to say the S10 phone have a slithly better screen. It's true that out of the box the white balance is off on the Xperia 1, but you can change it to your liking. From what I saw in some YouTube video, the smasung panels are less natural and more Poppy colors, but we can't know for sure how the settings are set on both phone. It's like comparing two tv on a mall without having access to the settings to properly calibrate them. My advice here is more to not take what you see on YouTube like the graal. The screen is good and can be well calibrated. Doing comparison between screen is Always difficult without proper Tools, so a normal user will not see a lot of difference f not comparing the two side by side, and even then, the difference can be due only to the settings.
In any case, the Xperia is nice with the WH-1000XM3 bundled for 999€. Only the phone, or the phone and the 60€ cover for this price is really too high without the 350€ headphone bundled in. What I mean here, is that this phone value is more around 700€ than 1000€. It's a great phone I will keep for 2 years or more, but not better than others for the 700€ mark, just different.
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http://m.ringhk.com/news2a.php?id=18649
Xperia 1 use Sony Bravia Master technology, best TV on the market
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The official sony website say (in the disclamer in the Bottom of the specification page):
Xperia 1 does not cover the BT.2020 colour space in full
8 bit display with 2 bit software smoothing
So any review/website that talk about this phone without mentionning it can't be taken that seriously. This one is more like an advertisement taking line by line the specification sheet of the phone.
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Thanks I'll take a look just everyone says the samsung displays are the best (displaymate)
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Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel.
This web is best
https://post76.hk/news/2019/06/sony-mobile-xperia-1-calman-test/
Samsung can not compete in quality neither on TV nor on mobile screens against Sony.
Xperia 1 use Rescue technology and converts sdr to hdr etc is technology of the Sony ag9 by af9 BEST TV market .
Samsung on TV makes QLED is a copy of Sony's triluminus and on phones does Amoled pentile poor in subpixels tecnology 8 bits sdr
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Depend on if u have note maybe u should waited note 10.
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Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel.
This web is best
https://post76.hk/news/2019/06/sony-mobile-xperia-1-calman-test/
Samsung can not compete in quality neither on TV nor on mobile screens against Sony.
Xperia 1 use Rescue technology and converts sdr to hdr etc is technology of the Sony ag9 by af9 BEST TV market .
Samsung on TV makes QLED is a copy of Sony's triluminus and on phones does Amoled pentile poor in subpixels tecnology 8 bits sdr
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Phone has just turned up side by side to the note 9 looks nice but very dim unless I'm doing something wrong
xzpremium1976 said:
Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel.
This web is best
https://post76.hk/news/2019/06/sony-mobile-xperia-1-calman-test/
Samsung can not compete in quality neither on TV nor on mobile screens against Sony.
Xperia 1 use Rescue technology and converts sdr to hdr etc is technology of the Sony ag9 by af9 BEST TV market .
Samsung on TV makes QLED is a copy of Sony's triluminus and on phones does Amoled pentile poor in subpixels tecnology 8 bits sdr
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Is the xperia 1 RGB or penitle?
Xz3 display already destroyed the note 9
https://youtu.be/xZjtj-eR8P0
I do not touch Samsung screens with the spen
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Xz3 display already destroyed the note 9
https://youtu.be/xZjtj-eR8P0
I do not touch Samsung screens with the spen
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So the xperia 1 display is rgb or penitle? And is the panel 10 bit ect
Thanks
xzpremium1976 said:
Display mate is a stupid web paid by samsung.
Reference web are rtings and flatpanel
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+1 Would be nice if they did smartphone screen test too.
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So the xperia 1 display is rgb or penitle? And is the panel 10 bit ect
Thanks
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I quoted the official specification before: not 10bit but 8+2. HDR but not all the BT2020 range.
I can try to find my microscope to look at the screen, because I can't find any review that show the pannel type.
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+1 Would be nice if they did smartphone screen test too.
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I quoted the official specification before: not 10bit but 8+2. HDR but not all the BT2020 range.
I can try to find my microscope to look at the screen, because I can't find any review that show the pannel type.
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Ah right cheers so the BT2020 isnt true? How can they advertise it has it?
Ya be great to see if its rgb or penitle
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So the xperia 1 display is rgb or penitle? And is the panel 10 bit ect
Thanks
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RGB display 8 bits + 2
there are no phones with 10-bit display.
Xperia 1 is 10 bits for software
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Ah right cheers so the BT2020 isnt true? How can they advertise it has it?
Ya be great to see if its rgb or penitle
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Next Xperia 5k display And 10 bits
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Ah right cheers so the BT2020 isnt true? How can they advertise it has it?
Ya be great to see if its rgb or penitle
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From the link provided by @xzpremium1976 the pannel is 67.4% of BT.2020, 99.63% of DCI-P3 and 148.4% of BT.709. That's still pretty neat.
They advertise the ability to play files using this color gamut space I think. A classic SDR screen while just be grey-ish when playing a BT.2020 video (I it's what happen on my computer screen). And they still write down on their specification sheet that's it's not complete range reproduction. But well, untill not so long, screen didn't even reproduce all the RGB color range, and now you have a full DCI-P3 coverage.
Not related to the screen or camera. But I hightly recommend people considering this phone to try it. The 21/9 ratio phone is … unexpedly good in hand. I mean, I really had a hard time with the P30pro with its 19.5:9 ratio coming from a 18.5:9 ratio. But it was more about the curved edge (front and back). Plus a flat screen is less eye catching, but, for me, far better for content, since curved edge distort the image and create ray of light. It's the same with Samsung edge phone. Well, matter of taste here. But really, trying it is important here, I was bluffed, I never expected buying a Sony phone and was just trying it.
Hildr said:
From the link provided by @xzpremium1976 the pannel is 67.4% of BT.2020, 99.63% of DCI-P3 and 148.4% of BT.709. That's still pretty neat.
Not related to the screen or camera. But I hightly recommend people considering this phone to try it. The 21/9 ratio phone is … unexpedly good in hand. I mean, I really had a hard time with the P30pro with its 19.5:9 ratio coming from a 18.5:9 ratio. But it was more about the curved edge (front and back). Plus a flat screen is less eye catching, but, for me, far better for content, since curved edge distort the image and create ray of light. It's the same with Samsung edge phone. Well, matter of taste here. But really, trying it is important here, I was bluffed, I never expected buying a Sony phone and was just trying it.
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I'll have to have a play around more when I get back home creative mode in display setting makes the display quite dim when going to the other mode it brightens up
I'll try get a microscope and see if its rgb or penitle
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I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
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j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
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You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
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Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
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Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
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SD 821 is much more powerful than tegra x1 and yes it plays 10 bit hevc videos. I have Nvidia shield TV too, ja it's good but SD 821 is faster and better.
zmajdk said:
You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
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Yes, I saw many 4gb mi note 2 benchmark around 145-160k. With my unit (6gb mi note 2) i expect to see better ram performance but i got even lower than 4gb model. I think with newer rom update could improve ram management on 6gb model.
But as i said on original post that real world use i didnt get any pull down performance.
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
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roosta said:
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
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You have to press to the home/fingerprint sensor to wake and unlock the phone at the same time.
How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
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The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless.
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Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
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roosta said:
Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
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That is correct, but still it's done by one touch, while yu pressing the button the fingerprint scanner is unlocking the locked screen at same time.
Mi note 2 global version is about to be realest but all my Xiaomi mi phones are compatible in my country ( Denmark) so I am not bothered.
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How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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I think the word disappoint for display of mi note 2 is under expectation. Everyone who plan to buy this phone would expect to see gorgeous IPS curve display. But after you get the phone hand on and the color on the edge doesn't seem as expectation so it would be abit disappoint.
As a mi note2 user I would say first impression was abit disappointed for display. The color on curve edge seem abit blue (only on white background) and abit warm tone display (compared to 1+2 i had used before mi note2).
But after using this phone for few days you will get use to color of display. Now i didn't feel any color change on the curve edges (after get used to) but the curve edge of screen still make you feel good on hand. Normally we look directly to screen not to the curve so right now color on the curve doesn't make me feel bad otherwise curve is still curve every time you hold your phone you always feel good on hand.
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Egde functions are only available with a theme called "minote2" and only in lockscreen.
Get it here http://en.miui.com/thread-393072-1-1.html
vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Battery life in my opinion is the best i ever used. It take me pass daily usage with 30%+,- before go to bed.
Yesterday i put phone on airplane mode during 9.30 hours flight. Mi note 2 is handle idle so well.
Note 2 flaishing xiaomi.eu rom
zmajdk said:
Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
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I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
TGUY25 said:
I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
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1. Yes, bootloader must be unlocked and TWRP for Mi note 2 must be flashed at first.
2. There is a guide on xiaomi.eu site how to do it : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-12-29.37056/
Huawei photo quality vs. Samsung's flagship photo quality
Hello XDA Huawei users,
Is there a Huawei phone that makes better photos than Samsung flagship devices like S8/S8+/Note8 ?
If yes could You tell me the model name?
Haven't you seen any photos of p9, mate 9 and mate 10 series??
It's difficult to answer this question because the quality of both phones is on a level where it is also a matter of taste. I had the Galaxy S8 and I'm now using the mate 10 pro.
In my opinion, the mate 10 pro has the better camera for pictures. Not only the second monochrome camera is a big plus, it also features a portrait mate, which the S8 lacks (but note 8 has it(ok, the s8 has a kind a portrait mode, but it's nowhere near the solution in the note 8)). The ease of use is comparable, both are really quick, and have a fast focus. In general, I like the pictures of the mate more, but sometimes the mate ones look more artificial because of the amount of contrast. in low light the mate preserves more colors and is less noisy, the S8 might be a bit sharper. Both phones could need a bit of hdr+ magic, the quality of googles Pixel phones is in another league.
When it comes to videos the s8 is much better. Mate 10 lacks dynamic range and in 1080p 60fps it looks like 720p.
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It's difficult to answer this question because the quality of both phones is on a level where it is also a matter of taste. I had the Galaxy S8 and I'm now using the mate 10 pro.
In my opinion, the mate 10 pro has the better camera for pictures. Not only the second monochrome camera is a big plus, it also features a portrait mate, which the S8 lacks (but note 8 has it(ok, the s8 has a kind a portrait mode, but it's nowhere near the solution in the note 8)). The ease of use is comparable, both are really quick, and have a fast focus. In general, I like the pictures of the mate more, but sometimes the mate ones look more artificial because of the amount of contrast. in low light the mate preserves more colors and is less noisy, the S8 might be a bit sharper. Both phones could need a bit of hdr+ magic, the quality of googles Pixel phones is in another league.
When it comes to videos the s8 is much better. Mate 10 lacks dynamic range and in 1080p 60fps it looks like 720p.
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Do you mean that Google Pixel phones make better photos than Mate and S8/Note8 ?
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Yes, definitely. They don't have manual controls so it's less fun. But it's hard to take bad pictures with the pixels.
Depends on what "quality" is for you.
Pixel 2 have the best technical quality while the mate 10 have a more "real camera" feel and controls.
Picture quality (technical) could have been better on mate 10 but overall it's the best cam on the market .
My 2 cent.
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Yes, definitely. They don't have manual controls so it's less fun. But it's hard to take bad pictures with the pixels.
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It is hard to take bad pictures with the pixels using auto mode, auto focus?
Bromsoket said:
Depends on what "quality" is for you.
Pixel 2 have the best technical quality while the mate 10 have a more "real camera" feel and controls.
Picture quality (technical) could have been better on mate 10 but overall it's the best cam on the market .
My 2 cent.
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Thanks for your input!
Does it mean that Samsung S8/S8+/Note8 will NOT make better pics than Huawei and Google Pixel 2?
Depends on you personal preference.
Me personally I never liked Samsung camera's
Of those 3 I will rank mate 10 first not because it has the highest quality (it's not bad in any way) but because it is the most "real camera" like in terms of controls and user experience.
Pixel 2 is great but lacks control..
And the portrait mode, seems like most "photographers" don't know the difference between out of focus and bokeh...
None of the are perfect but Note 8's portrait/bokeh look horrible and fake.
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I don't know about Samsung flagships but although I like my Mate 10 Pro a lot the camera disappoints me. If you like .. see this:
https://goo.gl/BFKuwn
Daniello8 THANKS, funny looking dogs
BTW Which of the Huawei Models is the best one?
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Daniello8 THANKS, funny looking dogs
BTW Which of the Huawei Models is the best one?
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In my opinion the regular Mate 10 is the best as it still uses 16:9, has the headphone jack, and the front fingerprint sensor for easy unlocking when sitting on your desk at work, plus no worries about any burn in because it uses an LCD panel (which I feel is better than Amoled). Of course it really depends on what you like and/or need! Other than these obvious differences everything else is the same...I think!
I had S7 Edge and bought Mate 10 Pro, for me Mate have great camera in all segments than S7 which is normal. But S7 takes better portrait shots, with Mate when i take pictures of my son his face looks so dark and with a lot of contrast.
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I had S7 Edge and bought Mate 10 Pro, for me Mate have great camera in all segments than S7 which is normal. But S7 takes better portrait shots, with Mate when i take pictures of my son his face looks so dark and with a lot of contrast.
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Well, You must consider that Your son maybe black.
So which one makes better photos? Cause I'm getting the feeling that you'e not sure
And relax, Your son is the most important person in the world, not a phone.
Why 16:9 is better in Your (all XDA users) opinon? Or isnt?
Mate 10 regular better than Mate 10 Pro? How come?
Hello,
Today I went to a xiaomi shop in France and the paper near the mi a3 says 1080p screen !!!
So I asked a seller why on internet it's 720p.
He said the screen is 1080p but android display only 720p (because on other models a bug happens with android auto and 1080p. Maybe with an update it will become 1080p)
This is very weird. The screen doesn't look like a 1080p
Do you think this is true ?
And why it's written 1080 !?
(Sorry for my bad English ^^)
they probably messed up the product info paper. the explanation they gave you is ridiculous.
mi a3 = mi cc9e with android one.
Okay thank you for your answer.
I'm thinking maybe originally the mi a3 was supposed to be 1080 and they change it very late in the device creation. so they still have paper with 1080p screen ?
(Btw I bought one hoping the community will be big. My 2013 nexus 5 is pretty old ?)
i was hoping we get a rebranded mi cc9 (non e) too. not getting an a3 as it stands.
Actually the 720p screen is not that bad (okay we can see the pixels) the battery life is suppose to be better and games are running better
dantir said:
Actually the 720p screen is not that bad (okay we can see the pixels) the battery life is suppose to be better and games are running better
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if you can see the pixels that's bad. the excuse for better battery is just wrong. the 4k battery would easily survive a full day on a 1080p display too. and if they had used the cc9 that has a better graphics for games. no, this is just a bad move from xiaomi, no point to sugar coat it. they should have used the cc9 even if it brought the price over 300-350 or at least upgraded the screen. it still would have been a very good value device. as it is... it's a missed opportunity!
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Actually the 720p screen is not that bad (okay we can see the pixels) the battery life is suppose to be better and games are running better
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I have a Xiaomi Mi A3, the information you can see the screen pixels are wrong, it is not possible to see the screen pixels since unlike the IPS screen, in AMOLED screen this is not possible. You will not notice so much the difference between an AMOLED screen and an IPS screen. The only difference I noticed is that on Full HD the screen is sharper, but the difference is not that big. If you want to buy, you need not worry about it.
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if you can see the pixels that's bad. the excuse for better battery is just wrong. the 4k battery would easily survive a full day on a 1080p display too. and if they had used the cc9 that has a better graphics for games. no, this is just a bad move from xiaomi, no point to sugar coat it. they should have used the cc9 even if it brought the price over 300-350 or at least upgraded the screen. it still would have been a very good value device. as it is... it's a missed opportunity!
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Yes you are right :/ that's sad. But I okay with it :/
J.D.M said:
I have a Xiaomi Mi A3, the information you can see the screen pixels are wrong, it is not possible to see the screen pixels since unlike the IPS screen, in AMOLED screen this is not possible. You will not notice so much the difference between an AMOLED screen and an IPS screen. The only difference I noticed is that on Full HD the screen is sharper, but the difference is not that big. If you want to buy, you need not worry about it.
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Actually I see the red on the top of white things and a bit of green on the bottom :/ The pixels are arranged diagonally.
dantir said:
Yes you are right :/ that's sad. But I okay with it :/
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you shouldn't be "OK" with it. in 2019 you should be able to pick the features/things that you want on a phone instead of having to live with bad decisions from xiaomi. we are not sheep having to buy any turd they put out. there are many more manufcturers and many more phone models. if you have any second thoughts about the phone, return it, get your money back and pick something else. it's a free economy, you dont like something, pick something else. the market will bend xiaomi and not the other way around.
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you shouldn't be "OK" with it. in 2019 you should be able to pick the features/things that you want on a phone instead of having to live with bad decisions from xiaomi. we are not sheep having to buy any turd they put out. there are many more manufcturers and many more phone models. if you have any second thoughts about the phone, return it, get your money back and pick something else. it's a free economy, you dont like something, pick something else. the market will bend xiaomi and not the other way around.
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I can't find any other phone with low sar and big dev community (I hope it will be big at least the sources are aviable)
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I can't find any other phone with low sar and big dev community (I hope it will be big at least the sources are aviable)
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There are actually more than a few Xiaomi phones that are cheaper or almost as cheap as the Mi A3. I'm not sure where you got your SAR specs for the Mi A3, but I suppose this can be fixed by using earphones, preferably not Bluetooth (since they have their own radiation issues). Myself I normally don't use my phone as a phone but as an ultraportable tablet, so I'm not too concerned about SAR.
I got the sar here : https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model-sar/51c75175
And also in the store (you can also see the 1080p resolution here) :
dantir said:
Hello,
Today I went to a xiaomi shop in France and the paper near the mi a3 says 1080p screen !!!
So I asked a seller why on internet it's 720p.
He said the screen is 1080p but android display only 720p (because on other models a bug happens with android auto and 1080p. Maybe with an update it will become 1080p)
This is very weird. The screen doesn't look like a 1080p
Do you think this is true ?
And why it's written 1080 !?
(Sorry for my bad English ^^)
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He is saying the truth cuz as all of you know the iPhone 8 currently my social phone is 720p resolution but when I open youtube for most Android phone with 720 p screen they limit at 720p but my iPhone can max out at 1080p the other one is my brother's Xperia 1 all of you must know that it has 4k display but it is not 4k Everytime.when you game on the Xperia it will compress to 720p also when you are multitasking it switch to 1080p the only time when 4k is applied when you web surfing like YouTube or Instagram and when opening the gallery and camera
It's 720p screen and it's ****, no honest person gonna deny that,, that's just not acceptable in 2019.
Xiaomi is a bad company they are putting an end to the mi A line up in favor to their ****ty miui os,,
I got Mi A2 Lite (FHD) and Mi A3 (HD) - i personally cannot see much difference in everyday normal using. There are options for interface and font size, i was allways using custom ones, so the screen is not a problem for me. Mi biggest problem is navigation buttons missing, but thats different topic.
vlad_8011 said:
I got Mi A2 Lite (FHD) and Mi A3 (HD) - i personally cannot see much difference in everyday normal using. There are options for interface and font size, i was allways using custom ones, so the screen is not a problem for me. Mi biggest problem is navigation buttons missing, but thats different topic.
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Can't see the difference too, actually i'm prefering Mi A3 display against Mi A2.
I'm loving this phone for now, way better than A2 in all aspects, my only complain is same as yours, the navigation buttons missing
https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/08/...d-in-russia-may-launch-soon-as-the-mi-a3-pro/
looks like the a3 pro is finally coming to the rescue
laviniu_c said:
https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/08/...d-in-russia-may-launch-soon-as-the-mi-a3-pro/
looks like the a3 pro is finally coming to the rescue
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If this is true, big mistake from xiaomi that doesn't announced the entire A3 line at once. Why announces one in July and one in August? This will really frustrated a lot of A3 owners, including me.
fir1996 said:
It's 720p screen and it's ****, no honest person gonna deny that,, that's just not acceptable in 2019.
Xiaomi is a bad company they are putting an end to the mi A line up in favor to their ****ty miui os,,
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I used to think like you, including the bits about how xiaomi is probably trying to make us buy its MIUI products. However, I've since gotten an A3. And I can tell you, the problem is not nearly as bad as everyone made it out to be. It does save battery life, and pixelation is not nearly as noticeable as I thought. I have to look pretty hard to see the difference that the complaint seems moot. Yet OLED is obviously brighter and more vibrant than IPS LCD, and also necessary for the in screen fingerprint sensor. To have all these specifications (OLED, imx586, 4000mah, SD665, sd card, headphone jack, gorilla glass back, etc) at this price point itself is a sincere effort.
You have to check it out yourself before you make your final judgment. I personally am an unlikely convert and I'm loving it. Although I still wouldn't mind having a CC9 a3 pro, I honestly think xiaomi did a really good job with A3, and it's probably a more thoughtfully balanced package if not the best spec'ed in the latest xiaomi lineup, in my opinion.
Is it a worthy enough update to switch from an MiA1 to an MiA3?
Opinions appreciated
rajjooooo said:
Is it a worthy enough update to switch from an MiA1 to an MiA3?
Opinions appreciated
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I've done it and I'm quite satisfied. Battery stats is incredible and photo quality is way better.
Cheers!
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rajjooooo said:
Is it a worthy enough update to switch from an MiA1 to an MiA3?
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I also switched from A1 - I am completely satisfied with everything, although the screen resolution is less.
yes worth it!
I used mia1, a2 and now a3 most satisfied, perticularly form factor and compact dimensions. With regard to the display due to the smoled colors views punchy. 720p doesn't bother me.
I come from mi a1 to and I am satisfied with mi a3 resolution it's ok for me
I just upgraded week ago, and I can't be more satisfied, bigger battery no bezels, camera is fabulous. If you expecting more speed than you dont upgrade, i think performance are the same. For me only one downside is location of 3,5mm jack which is now located on top of the phone, but thats just my opinion. About display, for regular guy i can't say dispaly is bad because it has 720p. I prefer strong colors because of amoled display and you got big savings on battery by enabling dark mode (although there is not yet system-wide support). Overall I would recomend everyone from MI A1 to upgrade on A3 if they were satisfied with A1 there is no reason to not buy this phone.
I find the onscreen fingerprint scanner annoying. 7 out of 10 it failed to recognize fingerprint.
So i have Mi 10 for like 2 months and so far i am so disappointed from it. Mainly from camera which is not as good as i expected (in my opinion Mi 9 which i had before had much better camera and overall results from all 3 sensors) miui 12 is terrible and only good thing i can see on my Mi 10 is battery, 90Hz amoled display and maybe sound. I drop Mi 9 beacuse of super good offer on Mi 10 and i thougth it will be great but its not. Couple days ago i bought for my girlfriend POCO X3 and when i see what that phone can do for fraction of price of my Mi 10. I mean display is not amoled but panel is look so good and 120Hz si awesone, battery life is exellent and camera in my opinion is almost the same as Mi 10 wich for the price of POCO X3 its just hilarious. So i am thinking last couple days to drop Mi 10 and get POCO X3 because its just much better value.. I am crazy?!
No, you not crazy. Im also very disappointed from Mi10.
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No, you not crazy. Im also very disappointed from Mi10.
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Well, i am happy to not be alone.
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Well, i am happy to not be alone.
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How i wrote a down on Foto section, the camera setup is trash.The 108mp main camera cant take normal fotos, cos its washing out the background, from 5 meters too. And its ****, if i want, that everything is sharp on the foto. 13mp wide is also bad. 2mp macro ist a joke. Sreen is ok, processor is ok. Im want back my Mi8. It was a super phone. Good Fotos, good size. Fast enough.
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How i wrote a down on Foto section, the camera setup is trash.The 108mp main camera cant take normal fotos, cos its washing out the background, from 5 meters too. And its ****, if i want, that everything is sharp on the foto. 13mp wide is also bad. 2mp macro ist a joke. Sreen is ok, processor is ok. Im want back my Mi8. It was a super phone. Good Fotos, good size. Fast enough.
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Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
Olmaik said:
Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
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The Problem is the big hype around bokeh. Now this is the trend. And when the Mi10 have a normal main camera and extra the portrait for bokeh , than i dont care about wide, cos with Gcam i can make from 9 foto very good wide. My opinion is, that 2 good camrea is enough. But now phone manufacturer racing, that who can put more camera tje backside of the phone. I hope, that trend will changes amd coming normalisation in this theme.
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The Problem is the big hype around bokeh. Now this is the trend. And when the Mi10 have a normal main camera and extra the portrait for bokeh , than i dont care about wide, cos with Gcam i can make from 9 foto very good wide. My opinion is, that 2 good camrea is enough. But now phone manufacturer racing, that who can put more camera tje backside of the phone. I hope, that trend will changes amd coming normalisation in this theme.
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Can u share what gcam u using and possible xml file? i tried so many of them and i cant find right one.
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Can u share what gcam u using and possible xml file? i tried so many of them and i cant find right one.
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I dont using xml. config, just the pure Parrot43 v5.
Incat said:
I could probably list a dozen things that I think the mi10 does better then the x3, but at the end of the day it's you that has to use the phone, so if you prefer the latter then what does it matter what anyone else thinks or says.?
If you think Miui 12 is terrible though, what are you going to use on the x3.?
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Well good point i guess. I am just pissed off about those cameras...
The camera works quite well when using Gcam 7.3.018 Urnyx05
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i only now want android 11. it takes a long time
You guys are on crack if you think Mi 10 is not good. Like photography part of phone I never comment because I would pay serious money for phone with no cam, or some whatever cam, just give me performance and battery. And this phone does those 2 better than most phones. I don't understand how can you put Poco X3 in same category with Mi 10. Yeah 120 Hz make it feel like Mi 10 but under the hood Mi 10 is beast on it's own and this OLED screen is too notch even tho is 1080p, I compared it head to head with OnePlus 8 Pro and minor differences could be seen.
The camera is excellent, stop saying nonsense and don't be so ignorant
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You guys are on crack if you think Mi 10 is not good. Like photography part of phone I never comment because I would pay serious money for phone with no cam, or some whatever cam, just give me performance and battery. And this phone does those 2 better than most phones. I don't understand how can you put Poco X3 in same category with Mi 10. Yeah 120 Hz make it feel like Mi 10 but under the hood Mi 10 is beast on it's own and this OLED screen is too notch even tho is 1080p, I compared it head to head with OnePlus 8 Pro and minor differences could be seen.
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The phone hardware is amazing, what sucks is MIUI! It feels like someone made a custom rom full of bugs and lags, it doesn't feel like a stock rom at all. I had oneplus previously and their OOS is way way better!
albannotosska said:
The phone hardware is amazing, what sucks is MIUI! It feels like someone made a custom rom full of bugs and lags, it doesn't feel like a stock rom at all. I had oneplus previously and their OOS is way way better!
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MIUI is custom ROM, I am kinda ancient when it comes to XDA and I remember how MIUI started and we all old heads were hyped to see company take over community work and put it into their phones out of box. Now OnePlus latest updates made their phones lookalike Samsung UI, so what you had on your OnePlus is history. And on almost any phone if you like stock android experience so you can tweak and tinker it AOSP ROM was the way or som custom ROM. So the charm of Android phones is all you need to like is hardware and you make your own looks and feels out of vast majority of ROM. I know some phone lack of even Root support or Bootloader is locked forever. But I kinda cringe when I see people on XDA complaining about looks of Phone and it's software when they can tweak it and being on XDA implies you want to tinker. Just have common sense people, don't be lazy and complain.
cobraxxx123 said:
The camera is excellent, stop saying nonsense and don't be so ignorant
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No this camera is far from excelent, really far.
nikola92 said:
MIUI is custom ROM, I am kinda ancient when it comes to XDA and I remember how MIUI started and we all old heads were hyped to see company take over community work and put it into their phones out of box. Now OnePlus latest updates made their phones lookalike Samsung UI, so what you had on your OnePlus is history. And on almost any phone if you like stock android experience so you can tweak and tinker it AOSP ROM was the way or som custom ROM. So the charm of Android phones is all you need to like is hardware and you make your own looks and feels out of vast majority of ROM. I know some phone lack of even Root support or Bootloader is locked forever. But I kinda cringe when I see people on XDA complaining about looks of Phone and it's software when they can tweak it and being on XDA implies you want to tinker. Just have common sense people, don't be lazy and complain.
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Not my point at all! I said MIUI doesn't feel like the original rom the phone came with, which means: it has alot of problems, alot of lags, animation stuttering and so on! The hardware might be good but the software totally kills the experience for me. As for tryingcustom roms, I am currently on a custom rom, but those still have some issues. Also when I buy a phone I expect it to work all good out of the box: hardware and software. And for xiaomi this is the first premium flagship I have tried that the hardware feels like a flagship but the phone feels like my old redmi note 5(last non flagship device I had)
Olmaik said:
Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
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i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
seities said:
i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Trust me, its not real bokeh. I have couple cameras at home and real optical bokeh looks really different then what Mi 10 does to images.
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Trust me, its not real bokeh. I have couple cameras at home and real optical bokeh looks really different then what Mi 10 does to images.
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This!!!! IT is no way near a real bokeh, it is the worst bokeh I have ever seen!
seities said:
i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Cameras suck man, suck big time. My old pixel 2 has a way wayy better camera(which is a 3year old device). And even though I use gcam, sometimes that is not stable, and whats the point of a 700$ phone if alot of stuff is not stable and keeps lagging?
seities said:
i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Well for that real optical bokeh.. Here is link for two shots. Same conditions, no filtr, just point focus and shoot. iPhone XS vs Mi 10.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=122xjPkdP4Y54M4Cg5ziLhHkTYP5_8nv4
iPhone did much better job with bokeh then Mi 10 did.