Hello,
Today I went to a xiaomi shop in France and the paper near the mi a3 says 1080p screen !!!
So I asked a seller why on internet it's 720p.
He said the screen is 1080p but android display only 720p (because on other models a bug happens with android auto and 1080p. Maybe with an update it will become 1080p)
This is very weird. The screen doesn't look like a 1080p
Do you think this is true ?
And why it's written 1080 !?
(Sorry for my bad English ^^)
they probably messed up the product info paper. the explanation they gave you is ridiculous.
mi a3 = mi cc9e with android one.
Okay thank you for your answer.
I'm thinking maybe originally the mi a3 was supposed to be 1080 and they change it very late in the device creation. so they still have paper with 1080p screen ?
(Btw I bought one hoping the community will be big. My 2013 nexus 5 is pretty old ?)
i was hoping we get a rebranded mi cc9 (non e) too. not getting an a3 as it stands.
Actually the 720p screen is not that bad (okay we can see the pixels) the battery life is suppose to be better and games are running better
dantir said:
Actually the 720p screen is not that bad (okay we can see the pixels) the battery life is suppose to be better and games are running better
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if you can see the pixels that's bad. the excuse for better battery is just wrong. the 4k battery would easily survive a full day on a 1080p display too. and if they had used the cc9 that has a better graphics for games. no, this is just a bad move from xiaomi, no point to sugar coat it. they should have used the cc9 even if it brought the price over 300-350 or at least upgraded the screen. it still would have been a very good value device. as it is... it's a missed opportunity!
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Actually the 720p screen is not that bad (okay we can see the pixels) the battery life is suppose to be better and games are running better
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I have a Xiaomi Mi A3, the information you can see the screen pixels are wrong, it is not possible to see the screen pixels since unlike the IPS screen, in AMOLED screen this is not possible. You will not notice so much the difference between an AMOLED screen and an IPS screen. The only difference I noticed is that on Full HD the screen is sharper, but the difference is not that big. If you want to buy, you need not worry about it.
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if you can see the pixels that's bad. the excuse for better battery is just wrong. the 4k battery would easily survive a full day on a 1080p display too. and if they had used the cc9 that has a better graphics for games. no, this is just a bad move from xiaomi, no point to sugar coat it. they should have used the cc9 even if it brought the price over 300-350 or at least upgraded the screen. it still would have been a very good value device. as it is... it's a missed opportunity!
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Yes you are right :/ that's sad. But I okay with it :/
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I have a Xiaomi Mi A3, the information you can see the screen pixels are wrong, it is not possible to see the screen pixels since unlike the IPS screen, in AMOLED screen this is not possible. You will not notice so much the difference between an AMOLED screen and an IPS screen. The only difference I noticed is that on Full HD the screen is sharper, but the difference is not that big. If you want to buy, you need not worry about it.
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Actually I see the red on the top of white things and a bit of green on the bottom :/ The pixels are arranged diagonally.
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Yes you are right :/ that's sad. But I okay with it :/
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you shouldn't be "OK" with it. in 2019 you should be able to pick the features/things that you want on a phone instead of having to live with bad decisions from xiaomi. we are not sheep having to buy any turd they put out. there are many more manufcturers and many more phone models. if you have any second thoughts about the phone, return it, get your money back and pick something else. it's a free economy, you dont like something, pick something else. the market will bend xiaomi and not the other way around.
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you shouldn't be "OK" with it. in 2019 you should be able to pick the features/things that you want on a phone instead of having to live with bad decisions from xiaomi. we are not sheep having to buy any turd they put out. there are many more manufcturers and many more phone models. if you have any second thoughts about the phone, return it, get your money back and pick something else. it's a free economy, you dont like something, pick something else. the market will bend xiaomi and not the other way around.
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I can't find any other phone with low sar and big dev community (I hope it will be big at least the sources are aviable)
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I can't find any other phone with low sar and big dev community (I hope it will be big at least the sources are aviable)
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There are actually more than a few Xiaomi phones that are cheaper or almost as cheap as the Mi A3. I'm not sure where you got your SAR specs for the Mi A3, but I suppose this can be fixed by using earphones, preferably not Bluetooth (since they have their own radiation issues). Myself I normally don't use my phone as a phone but as an ultraportable tablet, so I'm not too concerned about SAR.
I got the sar here : https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model-sar/51c75175
And also in the store (you can also see the 1080p resolution here) :
dantir said:
Hello,
Today I went to a xiaomi shop in France and the paper near the mi a3 says 1080p screen !!!
So I asked a seller why on internet it's 720p.
He said the screen is 1080p but android display only 720p (because on other models a bug happens with android auto and 1080p. Maybe with an update it will become 1080p)
This is very weird. The screen doesn't look like a 1080p
Do you think this is true ?
And why it's written 1080 !?
(Sorry for my bad English ^^)
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He is saying the truth cuz as all of you know the iPhone 8 currently my social phone is 720p resolution but when I open youtube for most Android phone with 720 p screen they limit at 720p but my iPhone can max out at 1080p the other one is my brother's Xperia 1 all of you must know that it has 4k display but it is not 4k Everytime.when you game on the Xperia it will compress to 720p also when you are multitasking it switch to 1080p the only time when 4k is applied when you web surfing like YouTube or Instagram and when opening the gallery and camera
It's 720p screen and it's ****, no honest person gonna deny that,, that's just not acceptable in 2019.
Xiaomi is a bad company they are putting an end to the mi A line up in favor to their ****ty miui os,,
I got Mi A2 Lite (FHD) and Mi A3 (HD) - i personally cannot see much difference in everyday normal using. There are options for interface and font size, i was allways using custom ones, so the screen is not a problem for me. Mi biggest problem is navigation buttons missing, but thats different topic.
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I got Mi A2 Lite (FHD) and Mi A3 (HD) - i personally cannot see much difference in everyday normal using. There are options for interface and font size, i was allways using custom ones, so the screen is not a problem for me. Mi biggest problem is navigation buttons missing, but thats different topic.
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Can't see the difference too, actually i'm prefering Mi A3 display against Mi A2.
I'm loving this phone for now, way better than A2 in all aspects, my only complain is same as yours, the navigation buttons missing
https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/08/...d-in-russia-may-launch-soon-as-the-mi-a3-pro/
looks like the a3 pro is finally coming to the rescue
laviniu_c said:
https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/08/...d-in-russia-may-launch-soon-as-the-mi-a3-pro/
looks like the a3 pro is finally coming to the rescue
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If this is true, big mistake from xiaomi that doesn't announced the entire A3 line at once. Why announces one in July and one in August? This will really frustrated a lot of A3 owners, including me.
fir1996 said:
It's 720p screen and it's ****, no honest person gonna deny that,, that's just not acceptable in 2019.
Xiaomi is a bad company they are putting an end to the mi A line up in favor to their ****ty miui os,,
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I used to think like you, including the bits about how xiaomi is probably trying to make us buy its MIUI products. However, I've since gotten an A3. And I can tell you, the problem is not nearly as bad as everyone made it out to be. It does save battery life, and pixelation is not nearly as noticeable as I thought. I have to look pretty hard to see the difference that the complaint seems moot. Yet OLED is obviously brighter and more vibrant than IPS LCD, and also necessary for the in screen fingerprint sensor. To have all these specifications (OLED, imx586, 4000mah, SD665, sd card, headphone jack, gorilla glass back, etc) at this price point itself is a sincere effort.
You have to check it out yourself before you make your final judgment. I personally am an unlikely convert and I'm loving it. Although I still wouldn't mind having a CC9 a3 pro, I honestly think xiaomi did a really good job with A3, and it's probably a more thoughtfully balanced package if not the best spec'ed in the latest xiaomi lineup, in my opinion.
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Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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1. Display is definitely bright enough, not sure where you read/heard that but it's great on sunny days.
2. I've never experienced it changing brightness when opening any apps.
3. Auto brightness turns itself on when the phone is rebooted not when the screen is locked.
4. The only intensive game I have on my phone is asphalt 9 and I can play it for well over a hour with minimal heat, it gets warmish but nothing out of the ordinary.
I'd definitely recommend this phone over any other
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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1. This phone has best screen on direct sunlight, i can see everything with my sunglasses
2. never noticed changhing brightness
3. no idea
4. it never goes even close to hot, had shanpdragon and iphone that almost melted when having gps on, but not mate 10 pro
Thank you guys
TheAndroid do you own the pro?
I read a lot about the phone here on xda and it seems like that the pro with the amoled changes brightness and got clouding (bright spots).
Don't know if every one got it or just a few. It's always kinda hard to tell because if everything works fine you don't open up a forum randomly and say that you don't have clouding or brightness changes.
In generell it sounds pretty good and, at least I read it here, there will be a really big update that increases performance and battery life
Bomber293 said:
TheAndroid do you own the pro?
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
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I read a lot about the phone here on xda and it seems like that the pro with the amoled changes brightness and got clouding (bright spots).
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Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
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It's always kinda hard to tell because if everything works fine you don't open up a forum randomly and say that you don't have clouding or brightness changes.
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Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
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In generell it sounds pretty good and, at least I read it here, there will be a really big update that increases performance and battery life
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I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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Good to hear I'll defenetly see one in electronic shop and probably buy it
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd) but if possibly more around 400€
it has to have an oled display and an atleast okayish camera.
The mate 10pro is my favorit but i heard some annoying things about the display.
1st of all that the display isnt birght engough. Sure oleds arent as bright but i heard that the mate 10 pro's display is just to dark for normal use
2nd that it changes brightness when opening apps.
3rd that auto birghtness is auto activated after locking the phone
4th thing i heard is that the Kirin overheats preatty fast and just isnt good overall (i know it lacks behind its Snapdragon counterpart but thermal throttle after a few mins shouldnt be normal)
What can you tell me to this points?
Oh and i have not choosen any phone atm so i am open for other recommendations but iPhones and S8/S9 because they failed badly at droptests.
Thank you all
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My Mate 10 Pro has 0 problem
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Im bored atm so i scrolled a bit and copied multiple statments from other mate 10/pro (idk) users in this forum
*One little flaw to mention. I have some clouding. At moderate to low brightness level, grey color is the worst. (screen shot was taken by another phone, so in real life it isn't that bad)
The problem is less prominent at higher brightness levels.
Anyone else have the same issue?
*yes same problem on mate 10 pro FRANCE ... REGRETE ALMOST MY PURCHASE
*I've got the same green tint on lower brightness (30% and lower)
Did any of you guys exchange it and got a better screen with no green tint on grey screens?
*I got my replacement device today and it also had that clouding issue! Really pisses me off because one of my main use cases on my mobile devices is reading pocket articles in dark mode. This is where I could see the yellow clouding very clearly. The replacement also had a defective fingerprint scanner (did not work at all not even during setup).
Now I'm waiting for my third device, if that one still has clouding (even if it is slightly) then I'm going to switch to the XL2. At least it doesn't have clouding.
This is meant to be huaweis high end device, such issues are nogos for me. Even my much cheaper but beloved Moto Z Play doesn't have this issue.
To summ it all up: There are many ppl with problems like clouding, brighter on left/right side and i somewhere read that a guy got a greenish matrix over his display. But there are also alot saying that theirs works fine and when you buy a phone and everything is fine most ppl dont open up a forum to say that it is fine but when there is a problem they all do it....
This awnser is not really for you two guys but for the ppl who maybe visit this thread and want to know whats up.
I'll get to a store next days and see if they got one there if it is fine i'll buy it and if i still remember or if it is broke you'll see me agian here
I don't have any of those problem on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-A09, the only time that you will see that the brightness changes is when watching hdr videos on YouTube
fefofefosa said:
I don't have any of those problem on my Mate 10 Pro BLA-A09, the only time that you will see that the brightness changes is when watching hdr videos on YouTube
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No issues for me with the same variant. Had the phone for almost a year. HDR with you tube does impact it, and moving from a light to dark environment will change as it should. This phone handles auto brightness much better than my Galaxy 8 + does.
Bomber293 said:
Hi,
i wanted to buy a new phone with a budeg up to 500 euro (580usd)
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Bomber... I bought a brand new one on swappa recently and it remains as brand new. I want to root it and do advanced things, but it is not as easy as I thought. I will probably sell mine in the next day or 2. Pm me if you are interested. I live in Florida and have good ebay and swappa ratings. The phone is in mint condition with all original accessories, box, and plastic covers.
Don't have the Mate 10 Pro, have a Mate 10 and 2 Mate 9's, one Mate 9 is my spare phone and the second is my wife's main phone. No quality issue's whatsoever, no heating when using normally like for example the Note 4 (have also 2 of them for the S-pen function) which melts nearly when doing normal updates. No issue's with brightness, true they have no oled display's. What I am trying to say is that you can always find negative feedback over ANY phone and ANY brand. Some people will ***** about anything. Sure, you can have bad luck to...but I almost have the feeling you are searching for an excuse not to buy the mate 10...Good luck!
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Yes I own the Pro, specifically the BLA-L09 model.
Like I said, I've never noticed any change in brightness in any app, also, never had a issue with clouding (bright spots), if you chose to get a Mate 10 Pro and it had such issue tho, I imagine Huawei would repair it or send you a replacement.
Sometimes it can just be quality control issues so a couple devices will suffer from it.
I couldn't recommend it enough honestly, I've had mine just over a month now and I'm loving it!
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cfds said:
Don't have the Mate 10 Pro, have a Mate 10 and 2 Mate 9's, one Mate 9 is my spare phone and the second is my wife's main phone. No quality issue's whatsoever, no heating when using normally like for example the Note 4 (have also 2 of them for the S-pen function) which melts nearly when doing normal updates. No issue's with brightness, true they have no oled display's. What I am trying to say is that you can always find negative feedback over ANY phone and ANY brand. Some people will ***** about anything. Sure, you can have bad luck to...but I almost have the feeling you are searching for an excuse not to buy the mate 10...Good luck!
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It really seems a bit like I'm searching for excuses but there are a lot last Gen flagship for around 400€. It is hard to find out what's really up who is just hating, who is just a fanboy. Watched hours of YouTube about phone x, y and z but they all say something else. BTW the comments on videos where they compare phones are hilarious
Yes, you will reach a point - have reached a point you don't know any more what to believe or think...Don't forget that you will only find negative feedback on the net. People in general don't post how happy they are with a phone, no they will post rather how dissatisfied they are.
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It really seems a bit like I'm searching for excuses but there are a lot last Gen flagship for around 400€. It is hard to find out what's really up who is just hating, who is just a fanboy. Watched hours of YouTube about phone x, y and z but they all say something else. BTW the comments on videos where they compare phones are hilarious
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Sometimes you just gotta take the leap, I had a Nexus 5x despite all the bootloop issues that where proven by other users and I didn't have 1 bootloop in 2 years, it's worth saying though, you won't find one device anywhere that someone hasn't complained about.
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Sometimes you just gotta take the leap, I had a Nexus 5x despite all the bootloop issues that where proven by other users and I didn't have 1 bootloop in 2 years, it's worth saying though, you won't find one device anywhere that someone hasn't complained about.
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True. I'll probably buy the mate 10 pro becasue idk it just feels better to me. With the upcoming updates to emui 8.2 and android pie it should be near perfect. Sure it got problems with custom roms twrp aso. but if i want to do it i'll find a way
The only way i wont take it is when the OP6 drops to 400 too
I think the Mate 10 Pro is a brilliant phone for the money it now goes for. Sure it's not perfect, but is there any such thing? It has one of biggest batteries you can find in a phone today with fast charging, a brilliant 18:9 OLED display with no notch and very slim bezels, face unlocking, Leica cameras with a fantastic b&w sensor, night mode, stereo speakers, ip67, 128gb storage, 6gb ram, kirin970 with npu, ir blaster... All for a THIRD of the price of a Note 9. Yes the K970 is a bit slower than the Sd845, no it doesn't have a headphone jack and it doesn't have expandable memory. But I personally never use these, and K970 is still more than fast enough - I have never seen one hiccup or stutter. With the right launcher and wallpapers etc your can pretty much make EMUI look like 'stock' Android if you want. Just buy it!
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Btw in case it's not obvious, I own one and I'm super picky about stuff like screens etc but there really isn't anything I can fault with it. Everything just works. The only real negative is the lack of updates - Huawei tends to push out updates every 3 or 4 months which isn't great, but better than nothing and is no worse than most of the other OEMs. If the latest updates are the most important thing to you, stick with pixels, OnePlus or Android One.
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I think the Mate 10 Pro is a brilliant phone for the money it now goes for. Sure it's not perfect, but is there any such thing? It has one of biggest batteries you can find in a phone today with fast charging, a brilliant 18:9 OLED display with no notch and very slim bezels, face unlocking, Leica cameras with a fantastic b&w sensor, night mode, stereo speakers, ip67, 128gb storage, 6gb ram, kirin970 with npu, ir blaster... All for a THIRD of the price of a Note 9. Yes the K970 is a bit slower than the Sd845, no it doesn't have a headphone jack and it doesn't have expandable memory. But I personally never use these, and K970 is still more than fast enough - I have never seen one hiccup or stutter. With the right launcher and wallpapers etc your can pretty much make EMUI look like 'stock' Android if you want. Just buy it!
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Btw in case it's not obvious, I own one and I'm super picky about stuff like screens etc but there really isn't anything I can fault with it. Everything just works. The only real negative is the lack of updates - Huawei tends to push out updates every 3 or 4 months which isn't great, but better than nothing and is no worse than most of the other OEMs. If the latest updates are the most important thing to you, stick with pixels, OnePlus or Android One.
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Actually the camera is not by Leica just the lense and it is one made out of plastic.... Oh and you probably ment the SD835 the kirin lacks a bit behind it but it should be okay with the gpu boost update and android pie is incomming for the mate 10
Im using mate 10 not pro. Only have problems on my screen at bottom have yellowish tint. Already send to huawei and change the lcd two times, still the same. I guess i must live with it. To be honest, this is the best phone i have ever used. Very snappy, top notch camera, proc not have overheat issue when playing heavy games unlike my sd821 before.
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Actually the camera is not by Leica just the lense and it is one made out of plastic.... Oh and you probably ment the SD835 the kirin lacks a bit behind it but it should be okay with the gpu boost update and android pie is incomming for the mate 10
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I meant the 845 as it is the latest available Snapdragon chip in phones like the OnePlus 6 etc. My point is that the chip although not the most powerful is still plenty fast enough for most people's needs and it comfortably handles pretty much anything you throw at it. The camera in my opinion is good - when I take a photo the results to me look very good. Am I a professional photographer? No, if I was I'd have a DSLR.
As an overall package, including price, I believe that this phone is one of the best you can get right now. Of course, this will change, and if OnePlus release the 6t with stereo speakers and a 3800-4000 mah battery, I may well get that.
Hey, im looking for new phone and Pocophone F1 looks interesting. But when i read few threads here and on YouTube i have some questions mostly about screen. Is really touch screen and screen quality not good for newest games and movies? Now i have Le Max 2 and screen quality is superb and i haven't problem at all with quality or touch delay, but software and some things are just awful thats why i want to change Phone but not at all cost
I won't buy it until they fix the lag issue.
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I'm in the same position as well... looking to get a Poco F1. Currently using a Oneplus One on Lineage OS... so the development community is essential and Poco F1 seems to be a good successor. Tried to jump to the Razer Phone, but as good as the silky smooth 120Hz screen is, the development community is lacking (and it doesn't support exFAT and Apt-X, both of which the Poco F1 has).
Played with the Poco F1 at the Mi Store for like 30min (tried to install gcam with night sight, but for some reason it would freeze up). The main thing holding me back right now is Widevine L1 certification. Once Poco can actually deliver on that, then I think I'll take the plunge.
isialdi said:
I won't buy it until they fix the lag issue.
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not everybody has that prob
I also don't have any lag issues with my phone it's fluid and smooth and no problem at all with the hardware, the screen is good and I don't have these touch or bleeding issues .. Just buy a Chinese phone cause all these screen problems arises in these phones made in India due to bad quality control.
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Well, you shouldn't bother about screen quality. Its one of the bests that IPS can offer. 720p YouTube videos have the same quality from 540p and XIAOMI alleged is solving this. You can test on YouTube. 480p and 720p videos on 6" screen have no difference.
Hi folks I'm in the market for another device and I'm stuck on the poco F1 or the mi 8 Lite both around my budget of £300 seeing as the 64GB 6GB poco is now £299 I'm obviously thinking it's a better bang for buck with the SD 845 over the mi 8 Lite SD 660 no contest in that department but of course the mi 8 Lite looks a better build smaller notch and generally nicer looking , can't decide weather to go with lower spec CPU with
more premium look of forget looks and have better specs ,,,
What would you do? Tia
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latest batch like mine has no problem with screen bleeding... and some say touch response prob and they say it starts after a while when we drag and u can even take s9 it also starts draging after some drag thats how screen works it has to understand touch and drag so it takes time
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Hi folks I'm in the market for another device and I'm stuck on the poco F1 or the mi 8 Lite both around my budget of £300 seeing as the 64GB 6GB poco is now £299 I'm obviously thinking it's a better bang for buck with the SD 845 over the mi 8 Lite SD 660 no contest in that department but of course the mi 8 Lite looks a better build smaller notch and generally nicer looking , can't decide weather to go with lower spec CPU with
more premium look of forget looks and have better specs ,,,
What would you do? Tia
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By the time your new phone shows signs of wear and scratches or gets covered with screen protector and case, looks are not going to be important. Performance or whatever your main use for the phone is is your main long term importance.
The Poco F1 is £279 on Amazon uk at the moment. I have one of these in an unopened box waiting to be given to me at Christmas.
Black Friday offer of £241 for the Poco F1 in the uk:
https://www.coolsmartphone.com/2018/11/23/xiaomi-pocophone-f1-6gb-64gb-now-241/
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latest batch like mine has no problem with screen bleeding... and some say touch response prob and they say it starts after a while when we drag and u can even take s9 it also starts draging after some drag thats how screen works it has to understand touch and drag so it takes time
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Which month mfg? You can check this on the box
Where exactly i can check the manufacturing date on the box?
Check the sticker containing all the phone parameters, the manufacturing date is written in bottom right corner - like "20018 07" in my case.
So I'm in need of a new phone. Right now I'm using a redmi note 4 with custom roms.
What I'm looking for is a nice camera for the price, good speed for at least 2 years and nice design. Also custom roms
Is this worth getting at 350 euro for the 128gb against a S8 64gb 380 Euro. There's also the s7 edge at 200 euro. The s8 is used and I don't have any guarantee that they have not change somethings (like replacing display etc)
EvilMegaDroid said:
So I'm in need of a new phone. Right now I'm using a redmi note 4 with custom roms.
What I'm looking for is a nice camera for the price, good speed for at least 2 years and nice design. Also custom roms
Is this worth getting at 350 euro for the 128gb against a S8 64gb 380 Euro. There's also the s7 edge at 200 euro. The s8 is used and I don't have any guarantee that they have not change somethings (like replacing display etc)
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Bro trust me poco will be the best decision.
Guntas ROMANA said:
Bro trust me poco will be the best decision.
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Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
EvilMegaDroid said:
Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
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No bro nothing at all
EvilMegaDroid said:
Nice. One thing. I noticed that with most xiomi phones I owned. redmi 4a, note 4. Every one of them the camera is quite ****ty like just a little shake and it makes the image blurry.
Does that happen with poco?
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Yes blurry pictures can happen with this phone. I'm not much of a picture taker and didn't buy the phone for that purpose but I have experienced blurry pictures
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Yes blurry pictures can happen with this phone. I'm not much of a picture taker and didn't buy the phone for that purpose but I have experienced blurry pictures
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Does it happen offten. I mean comparing it to a s8 camera ( I know s8 has one of the best cameras around) would it be as good as 80% of it?
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Does it happen offten. I mean comparing it to a s8 camera ( I know s8 has one of the best cameras around) would it be as good as 80% of it?
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No not often but it can happen. It's not really a deal breaker but the S8 I would say is the better phone because it's made by a better company, has a better screen (though smaller than the Poco) better 3rd party support. Yes the SOC is older than the SD845 bit all depends on what you want from a phone. I brought the Poco mainly because it has a headphone jack, a card slot and was in the price bracket of what I could afford and didn't want to buy a second hand phone
I replaced my s8 for the poco,the camera is decent if you use Gcam but of course is worse than the s8.
The battery life and the modding possibility are much better but you should decide what are you looking for in a phone before buying it.
The Samsung water resistance, wireless charging, amoled and NFC are hard to turn down, but a new F1 still wins in my book - bigger battery, better SoC, plus it's new
If you're looking for a camera phone, best look elsewhere. Not to say that the camera is bad, but do note this does not have OIS, only EIS. So if you have shaky hands you best use a camera stand or take multiple shots (it's easy to do that just hold the camera button). I have had good shots with this phone and I'm satisfied with it (since I don't care much about cam quality, I'm after the SD845, though the shots i took were ok for my tastes).
As said, if you're gonna use your phone for amateur photog, you need steady hands and possibly a stand, but for the price, the camera is great.
If you badly need an amazing camera, look at the s8 or possibly oneplus, but the Pocophone cam is decent. You can google some shots taken by other users for reference. Here is one I took from my dim room and see if it suits your needs.
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If you're looking for a camera phone, best look elsewhere. Not to say that the camera is bad, but do note this does not have OIS, only EIS. So if you have shaky hands you best use a camera stand or take multiple shots (it's easy to do that just hold the camera button). I have had good shots with this phone and I'm satisfied with it (since I don't care much about cam quality, I'm after the SD845, though the shots i took were ok for my tastes). I just want to take a few good pictures to show my workflow and be done with it while using a flagship phone performance.
As said, if you're gonna use your phone for amateur photog, you need steady hands and possibly a stand, but for the price, the camera is great.
If you badly need an amazing camera, look at the s8 or possibly oneplus, but the Pocophone cam is decent. You can google some shots taken by other users for reference. Here is one I took from my dim room and see if it suits your needs.
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To tell the truth I might take 10-15 pic a year so yeah not much of a camera guy. The reason I ask about the camera is because I'm a programmer and need some pics of my workflow so I though might as well take them with my new phone.
I will go for this only for the reason from where I am people here sell refurbished phones without saying it. A refurbished S8 (it might be) is worthless against a new phone. Also Xiomi is kind of known for custom roms.
ps: to the one saying S8 has better community. From what I could tell on xda the s8 didn't have much compared to xiomi phones ( I compared it to my note 4)
I have s8, s9+ and poco. Poco has the worst screen of all but not by that much comparing to s8, since it can be very bright and its viewing angles are fine. The camera using the gcam is adequate, better that stock s8, worst than s9+, but again it is adequate.
Performance is better on the poco, talking about daily activities at least, is more fluid and fast. Overall quality, is surprisingly adequate on poco, and since we all use case on our phones, more premium devices like the s8/s9 will brag a bit less. Last but not the least, unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty for the poco, but its a different case for the samsungs.
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I have s8, s9+ and poco. Poco has the worst screen of all but not by that much comparing to s8, since it can be very bright and its viewing angles are fine. The camera using the gcam is adequate, better that stock s8, worst than s9+, but again it is adequate.
Performance is better on the poco, talking about daily activities at least, is more fluid and fast. Overall quality, is surprisingly adequate on poco, and since we all use case on our phones, more premium devices like the s8/s9 will brag a bit less. Last but not the least, unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty for the poco, but its a different case for the samsungs.
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Since you mention performance, does androud stutter still occurs in flagships like poco f1? Like literally every android I had in hand (not many flagships though) has some kind of lag sometime.
Nope I would sell this for a s8 because it lacks so many features
Bad eis
No ois
No 60 fps in any mode
It's screen doesn't support real hdr its just plastic looking with very innaccurate colors.
The only purpose in upgrading would be the processor.
I think the only differences in this phone is that
The official dev community and the xda community are very active like posts each day.
But if you really want a phone for pubg this phone can handle it at hdr 60 fps 720p mode. It's viewing angles and lighting are about 75% of what you would get with an oled panel.
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Since you mention performance, does androud stutter still occurs in flagships like poco f1? Like literally every android I had in hand (not many flagships though) has some kind of lag sometime.
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For me, I haven't experienced any lags. I'm on pie now btw. My only issue is for some reason they removed the system option to hide the notch(not really an issue since I use nacho notch a 3rd party app to remove notch). Everything works fine for me. I can run simultaneous programs with no lags, I can play heavy games with no stutters and the rom community is amazing.
As for your camera usage, it takes clear pictures and is sufficient enough (I use it sparingly since I'm not a picture buff). I use it sometimes for document scanning and it's clear enough to show the letters in the docs. For selfie and family pics, it's nice and adequate, though you shouldn't compare it to phones who specifically target photo buffs since the main point of poco is SD845 and I can say it's fast and smooth. Though as mentioned photog is good and adequate to take clear photos for normal use
Some people say there are issues but I haven't experienced any of them at all. No touch lag, no screen bleed and the Poco team really has good aftersales since they respond and really converse with their consumers (see xiaomi forum app about latest updates with Poco and you will see they do acknowledge most of the issues, unlike some manufacturers). I'd say for the price it is a snatch and I do hope they launch more of these "flagship killers"
Almsot forgot, there is one more thing you should be wary of, the notifications. I think you already know this but notifications do not stay in the status bar, so if I were you, use this mod. It moves the clock up a bit sk that the notifications will stay below it:
https://mi-globe.com/miui-notch-notification-mod/?codename=beryllium
And for more info
https://mi-globe.com/miui-notification-icons-for-notch-phones/
I would always recommend buying anything other than Samsung but as a Poco user my advice is, skip both and buy Oneplus 6, if you can find it somewhere affordable
So i have Mi 10 for like 2 months and so far i am so disappointed from it. Mainly from camera which is not as good as i expected (in my opinion Mi 9 which i had before had much better camera and overall results from all 3 sensors) miui 12 is terrible and only good thing i can see on my Mi 10 is battery, 90Hz amoled display and maybe sound. I drop Mi 9 beacuse of super good offer on Mi 10 and i thougth it will be great but its not. Couple days ago i bought for my girlfriend POCO X3 and when i see what that phone can do for fraction of price of my Mi 10. I mean display is not amoled but panel is look so good and 120Hz si awesone, battery life is exellent and camera in my opinion is almost the same as Mi 10 wich for the price of POCO X3 its just hilarious. So i am thinking last couple days to drop Mi 10 and get POCO X3 because its just much better value.. I am crazy?!
No, you not crazy. Im also very disappointed from Mi10.
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No, you not crazy. Im also very disappointed from Mi10.
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Well, i am happy to not be alone.
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Well, i am happy to not be alone.
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How i wrote a down on Foto section, the camera setup is trash.The 108mp main camera cant take normal fotos, cos its washing out the background, from 5 meters too. And its ****, if i want, that everything is sharp on the foto. 13mp wide is also bad. 2mp macro ist a joke. Sreen is ok, processor is ok. Im want back my Mi8. It was a super phone. Good Fotos, good size. Fast enough.
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How i wrote a down on Foto section, the camera setup is trash.The 108mp main camera cant take normal fotos, cos its washing out the background, from 5 meters too. And its ****, if i want, that everything is sharp on the foto. 13mp wide is also bad. 2mp macro ist a joke. Sreen is ok, processor is ok. Im want back my Mi8. It was a super phone. Good Fotos, good size. Fast enough.
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Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
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Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
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The Problem is the big hype around bokeh. Now this is the trend. And when the Mi10 have a normal main camera and extra the portrait for bokeh , than i dont care about wide, cos with Gcam i can make from 9 foto very good wide. My opinion is, that 2 good camrea is enough. But now phone manufacturer racing, that who can put more camera tje backside of the phone. I hope, that trend will changes amd coming normalisation in this theme.
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The Problem is the big hype around bokeh. Now this is the trend. And when the Mi10 have a normal main camera and extra the portrait for bokeh , than i dont care about wide, cos with Gcam i can make from 9 foto very good wide. My opinion is, that 2 good camrea is enough. But now phone manufacturer racing, that who can put more camera tje backside of the phone. I hope, that trend will changes amd coming normalisation in this theme.
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Can u share what gcam u using and possible xml file? i tried so many of them and i cant find right one.
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Can u share what gcam u using and possible xml file? i tried so many of them and i cant find right one.
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I dont using xml. config, just the pure Parrot43 v5.
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I could probably list a dozen things that I think the mi10 does better then the x3, but at the end of the day it's you that has to use the phone, so if you prefer the latter then what does it matter what anyone else thinks or says.?
If you think Miui 12 is terrible though, what are you going to use on the x3.?
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Well good point i guess. I am just pissed off about those cameras...
The camera works quite well when using Gcam 7.3.018 Urnyx05
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i only now want android 11. it takes a long time
You guys are on crack if you think Mi 10 is not good. Like photography part of phone I never comment because I would pay serious money for phone with no cam, or some whatever cam, just give me performance and battery. And this phone does those 2 better than most phones. I don't understand how can you put Poco X3 in same category with Mi 10. Yeah 120 Hz make it feel like Mi 10 but under the hood Mi 10 is beast on it's own and this OLED screen is too notch even tho is 1080p, I compared it head to head with OnePlus 8 Pro and minor differences could be seen.
The camera is excellent, stop saying nonsense and don't be so ignorant
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You guys are on crack if you think Mi 10 is not good. Like photography part of phone I never comment because I would pay serious money for phone with no cam, or some whatever cam, just give me performance and battery. And this phone does those 2 better than most phones. I don't understand how can you put Poco X3 in same category with Mi 10. Yeah 120 Hz make it feel like Mi 10 but under the hood Mi 10 is beast on it's own and this OLED screen is too notch even tho is 1080p, I compared it head to head with OnePlus 8 Pro and minor differences could be seen.
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The phone hardware is amazing, what sucks is MIUI! It feels like someone made a custom rom full of bugs and lags, it doesn't feel like a stock rom at all. I had oneplus previously and their OOS is way way better!
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The phone hardware is amazing, what sucks is MIUI! It feels like someone made a custom rom full of bugs and lags, it doesn't feel like a stock rom at all. I had oneplus previously and their OOS is way way better!
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MIUI is custom ROM, I am kinda ancient when it comes to XDA and I remember how MIUI started and we all old heads were hyped to see company take over community work and put it into their phones out of box. Now OnePlus latest updates made their phones lookalike Samsung UI, so what you had on your OnePlus is history. And on almost any phone if you like stock android experience so you can tweak and tinker it AOSP ROM was the way or som custom ROM. So the charm of Android phones is all you need to like is hardware and you make your own looks and feels out of vast majority of ROM. I know some phone lack of even Root support or Bootloader is locked forever. But I kinda cringe when I see people on XDA complaining about looks of Phone and it's software when they can tweak it and being on XDA implies you want to tinker. Just have common sense people, don't be lazy and complain.
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The camera is excellent, stop saying nonsense and don't be so ignorant
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No this camera is far from excelent, really far.
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MIUI is custom ROM, I am kinda ancient when it comes to XDA and I remember how MIUI started and we all old heads were hyped to see company take over community work and put it into their phones out of box. Now OnePlus latest updates made their phones lookalike Samsung UI, so what you had on your OnePlus is history. And on almost any phone if you like stock android experience so you can tweak and tinker it AOSP ROM was the way or som custom ROM. So the charm of Android phones is all you need to like is hardware and you make your own looks and feels out of vast majority of ROM. I know some phone lack of even Root support or Bootloader is locked forever. But I kinda cringe when I see people on XDA complaining about looks of Phone and it's software when they can tweak it and being on XDA implies you want to tinker. Just have common sense people, don't be lazy and complain.
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Not my point at all! I said MIUI doesn't feel like the original rom the phone came with, which means: it has alot of problems, alot of lags, animation stuttering and so on! The hardware might be good but the software totally kills the experience for me. As for tryingcustom roms, I am currently on a custom rom, but those still have some issues. Also when I buy a phone I expect it to work all good out of the box: hardware and software. And for xiaomi this is the first premium flagship I have tried that the hardware feels like a flagship but the phone feels like my old redmi note 5(last non flagship device I had)
Olmaik said:
Yes exactly!!! Camera is the most disappointment. Sometimes it nail the photo but 80% of time photo looks bad.
Here is good example. I had Mi 9 before Mi 10, photos are super sharp thanks to laser AF and good sensor. Mi 10 just focus on middle a rest of image is just bad.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/11aFfzYzMcBx2JxDHWeTvAxGavrHWR-bc?usp=sharing
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i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Trust me, its not real bokeh. I have couple cameras at home and real optical bokeh looks really different then what Mi 10 does to images.
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Trust me, its not real bokeh. I have couple cameras at home and real optical bokeh looks really different then what Mi 10 does to images.
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This!!!! IT is no way near a real bokeh, it is the worst bokeh I have ever seen!
seities said:
i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Cameras suck man, suck big time. My old pixel 2 has a way wayy better camera(which is a 3year old device). And even though I use gcam, sometimes that is not stable, and whats the point of a 700$ phone if alot of stuff is not stable and keeps lagging?
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i'm with the others who think the mi10 camera is pretty good. what you said about "focus on middle and rest of image is just bad", well that's bokeh. REAL OPTICAL BOKEH, not processed/faked ones: something that's not possible with smaller sensors on phones typically, and approaching what you can get with much larger dedicated cameras. It's not a fault, but an achievement, IMHO.
What might have also impressed you the wrong way is probably the characteristic cold tones of the Samsung sensors compared to the much warmer (lab tested pleasing) tones of the Sony sensors. Though Samsung sensors would typically appear sharper overall even with comparable resolution, never mind between mi9 and 10. Sharpness and resolution should be hands down in mi 10's favor. Getting GCam should help a lot with dynamic range issues in difficult lighting (you seem to have unfavorable/difficult lightings for both of the Mi10 samples compared to the mi9, which were both shot with much better lighting conditions).
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Well for that real optical bokeh.. Here is link for two shots. Same conditions, no filtr, just point focus and shoot. iPhone XS vs Mi 10.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=122xjPkdP4Y54M4Cg5ziLhHkTYP5_8nv4
iPhone did much better job with bokeh then Mi 10 did.
Hello
here's a question for owners of Xiaomi Mi Note 10.
Having made experience with it, and knowing what you know, would you buy a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 today?
I ask because I'm about to change smartphone and I'm leaning towards the Mi Note 10.
Looks a solid pick to me; I especially like the Camera and the presence of OIS.
I don't like the fact that the storage can't be expanded, but I've been living constrained within 32 GB with a Huawei P9 for the last 4 and a half years... don't think it'll be much worse within 128 GB.
Everything else about the Mi Note 10 --> I don't know.
How is the skin? Does it have the features you want? What about bugs?
Does the phone heat during usage? If so, when? My P9 would heat quickly while using the Camera.
Keeping the screen On for a good while (browsing, or a long chat...) would also heat my phone.
What about the AMOLED panel? Anything I should know about it? My P9 got an IPS, I never had OLED tech to play with.
How is the Camera software? The P9's is lovely, letting me choose ISO, shutter speed, EV, AutoFocus mode, white balance...
Does the Mi Note 10 have a professional mode?
What about the software updates? Does Xiaomi make them frequently?
Please share your opinion on this device and tell me why you would buy it again today.
And also why you wouldn't.
Thank you
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Hello
here's a question for owners of Xiaomi Mi Note 10.
Having made experience with it, and knowing what you know, would you buy a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 today?
I ask because I'm about to change smartphone and I'm leaning towards the Mi Note 10.
Looks a solid pick to me; I especially like the Camera and the presence of OIS.
I don't like the fact that the storage can't be expanded, but I've been living constrained within 32 GB with a Huawei P9 for the last 4 and a half years... don't think it'll be much worse within 128 GB.
Everything else about the Mi Note 10 --> I don't know.
How is the skin? Does it have the features you want? What about bugs?
Does the phone heat during usage? If so, when? My P9 would heat quickly while using the Camera.
Keeping the screen On for a good while (browsing, or a long chat...) would also heat my phone.
What about the AMOLED panel? Anything I should know about it? My P9 got an IPS, I never had OLED tech to play with.
How is the Camera software? The P9's is lovely, letting me choose ISO, shutter speed, EV, AutoFocus mode, white balance...
Does the Mi Note 10 have a professional mode?
What about the software updates? Does Xiaomi make them frequently?
Please share your opinion on this device and tell me why you would buy it again today.
And also why you wouldn't.
Thank you
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I saw you reposted your question somewhere else, so I'm reposting mine answer too
Well, mate. Simple answer to your question would be: probably yes. I'll explain this "probably" bit later
At first, I've been using stock MIUI ROM only for one week. I've instantly applied for unlocking bootloader in order to flash Xiaomi.eu, which is a debloated version of MIUI with some improvements. I think it improves an overall performance a little bit. There are some other custom ROMs available for tucana, based on AOSP, but I prefer to stay with MIUI at the moment.
1) Camera: It's really good, but it could be even better with better SoC In my opinion, it is bit too weak at least for the huge main lens. Sometimes it lags, but it's not absolutely bad though. The pics quality is really good. Especially huge main lens gives bright, clear photos, it shines most in the night/low light scenarios. Even better with GCam. OIS is an excellent addon. Tele lenses are good enough, wide angle as well. Macro lens is only 2mpx and it is useful for me only when I need to take a photo of a very close object (1-2 cm), but quality is rather poor. But surprisingly, you can take very good macro pictures with wide angle lens
Just one thing: main lens isn't very good for macro shots. Because of its size, it can blur edges of the objects. But for landscapes and people it's just perfect.
There is a PRO mode with EV correction, exposure time, focus and white balance manual sliders. You can get additional features like long exposure, cloninig and stickers with a Magisk module (they are present on stock in Mi Note 10 pro).
Overall, I would give 8 out of 10 as for camera experience.
2) Storage: 128GB is more than enough for me. My previous device was Redmi Note 4 with 32GB plus 16BG on SD card and I managed as well. If you keep your device reasonably clean, I dont think there is much to worry. I sync my photos with Google Photos, so I can delete them from storage later. The only minor inconvenience is that when I want to/have to make factory reset (granted, most people dont do it often ), I have to copy files from internal storage to USB rather than keep them on SD card. But I can live with that.
3) Skin: I've always liked MIUI, so I'm satisfied. Stock features are ok, although I always like to customize my device as much as possible, so I root it and use Xposed Framework. But this is mainly matter of personal preferences. MIUI is heavy skin though, so it can explain occasional lags and little worse battery life than you could expect from >5000mAh battery. It's not absolutely bad though, I can easily use the phone more than one day with moderate usage (I don't play games).
I didn't notice much heating during usage, although as I mentioned, I'm not a gamer It heats a bit only when turbo charging, but it's not unusual.
3) AMOLED screen: Perfect for me. Nothing to complain about. Some people doesn't like rounded edges, I don't mind. Quality is excellent. OLED gives inifinite contrast, so black is totally black (because unused pixels are just turned off). Highest brightness is high enought to see everything even in sunlight (this is the biggest advantage over LCD). And you can use Always-on Display - I like this feature a lot.
4) Software: With stock ROM, as far as I know, updates are not that rare, but not very frequent too. The phone just got official Android 11 and since it started with A9, it's probably last major update (but probably will be getting new MIUI longer). I use weekly beta and I have A11 for some time already Actually there is one annoyance with MIUI based on A11: permissions and restrictions. You have to manually grant almost all permissions and with those more sensitive, you have to wait 10 seconds until the system lets you to grant it. It drives me crazy but fortunately, you have to do it only once Generally, MIUI A11 performes just ok.
So, despite those minor shortcomings, I would probably buy this phone again. I had limited budget and it was within my range. But if you can afford, I'd recommend to consider Mi Note 10 Pro. It has more powerful SoC and that can make a difference.
If you'd like to know something more, I can tell you Cheers!
It's nice of you to share, thanks
(and, sorry for having you chase me on this other thread )
Lord Sithek said:
So, despite those minor shortcomings, I would probably buy this phone again. I had limited budget and it was within my range. But if you can afford, I'd recommend to consider Mi Note 10 Pro. It has more powerful SoC and that can make a difference.
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My budget wouldn't quite afford me a Mi Note 10, but I'm willing to shell an extra for this phone.
The Mi Note 10 Pro is far above my limit, instead. Will prices drop once the Mi 11 hits the market?
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I'd happily buy a mid-range should I find one that takes proper photos without a metric ton of postprocessing to mask a cheap sensor. Even some flagships of today leave much to be desired here [...]
If you got recommendations, feel free to tell -in PM if they're OT here-.
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You say that the Mi Note 10 Pro has better SoC over the Mi Note 10, but the two units should be identical save for RAM/Storage GB (6/128 vs. 8/256). Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean?
Lord Sithek said:
If you'd like to know something more, I can tell you Cheers!
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Yes, I forgot to ask about the fingerprint sensor!
I'm spoiled by the phenomenal one on the Huawei P9.
I'm an EMT and wear non-trasparent lattice gloves most of the time and yet the P9's sensor recognizes my fingerprint without issues. Gloves on, just press on the sensor a tiny bit harder --> it unlocks lightning fast as always.
How good is the Mi Note 10's fingerprint sensor, instead?
As for the software...
I don't make rooting. Bricking an expensive device taugh me a lesson, and I decided to stick to OTA and stock software as much as I can. Should stock MIUI be somewhat heavy, I'll live with it.
But it doesn't hurt to know things in advance, so thank you
Another question:
Is there some kind of Secure Folder in MIUI? I mean an encrypted storage protected by password/fingerprint.
Thank you again.
I'd like to hear more on the Mi Note 10...
Umb0 said:
It's nice of you to share, thanks
(and, sorry for having you chase me on this other thread )
My budget wouldn't quite afford me a Mi Note 10, but I'm willing to shell an extra for this phone.
The Mi Note 10 Pro is far above my limit, instead. Will prices drop once the Mi 11 hits the market?
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I'd happily buy a mid-range should I find one that takes proper photos without a metric ton of postprocessing to mask a cheap sensor. Even some flagships of today leave much to be desired here [...]
If you got recommendations, feel free to tell -in PM if they're OT here-.
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You say that the Mi Note 10 Pro has better SoC over the Mi Note 10, but the two units should be identical save for RAM/Storage GB (6/128 vs. 8/256). Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean?
Yes, I forgot to ask about the fingerprint sensor!
I'm spoiled by the phenomenal one on the Huawei P9.
I'm an EMT and wear non-trasparent lattice gloves most of the time and yet the P9's sensor recognizes my fingerprint without issues. Gloves on, just press on the sensor a tiny bit harder --> it unlocks lightning fast as always.
How good is the Mi Note 10's fingerprint sensor, instead?
As for the software...
I don't make rooting. Bricking an expensive device taugh me a lesson, and I decided to stick to OTA and stock software as much as I can. Should stock MIUI be somewhat heavy, I'll live with it.
But it doesn't hurt to know things in advance, so thank you
Another question:
Is there some kind of Secure Folder in MIUI? I mean an encrypted storage protected by password/fingerprint.
Thank you again.
I'd like to hear more on the Mi Note 10...
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Sorry, my bad, you are right - Mi Note 10 and Mi Note 10 Pro have the same chipset. I must remembered it wrong. But another options you might consider are:
1) Mi Note 10 Lite: The same chipset and bit less equiped with cameras than regular Mi Note 10, but as I know from reviews, people praise photos quality as well. There is no 108mpx camera, but I must admit - it's a bit overrated. It consumes much power, but in practice I use the full resolution very rarely. It's not really neccessary in real life. Lite version has 48mpx and it's probably sufficient. And no blurry macros from main lens Amoled screen present as well and the prices should be considerably lower.
2) Mi 10T: If you don't care about Amoled that much (personally I care ). It has high screen refresh rate, so user experience should be really fluent. Supported by powerful chipset. I don't know much about cameras, you would have to watch some reviews. And I don't know about prices...
3) Mi 9T/Mi 9T Pro: I'm not sure they are still available, but they were among the best Xiaomi devices up to date. Mi 9T Pro has more powerful chipset, but is more expensive obvioulsy. Both have Amoled screen, good photo quality, no notch. The latter can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what do you expect (selfie lens pop up automatically). I was considering Mi 9T seriously until Mi Note 10 appeared
As for Mi Note 10's fingerprint: It's ok. I wouldn't call it phenomenal though. When the screen is active (I mean on lock screen or in the secured app login screen) it works pretty fast. But it's noticeably slower on Always-on Display - I have to hold my finger a little bit longer to get unlocked. Alternatively, I use face unlock. It's standard on MIUI. I know its less secure, but Im not that scared And my enviroment is relatively safe. Face unlock works really fast.
There are tools to secure your data and apps. I just use app lock for one app with my passwords, and I checked you can secure any folder in the file manager.
Lord Sithek said:
...surprisingly, you can take very good macro pictures with wide angle lens
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Thanks for the tip, that was a revelation!
I've had the Mi Note 10 for just over a year, and I'd buy it again. The stock camera sometimes over-processes/saturates greens in landscapes, but it's not a deal-breaker. The portrait mode can produce some excellent pics. I've occasionally tried Gcam mods, but the stock camera is good enough most of the time.
Lord Sithek said:
Sorry, my bad, you are right - Mi Note 10 and Mi Note 10 Pro have the same chipset. I must remembered it wrong. But another options you might consider are:
1) Mi Note 10 Lite: The same chipset and bit less equiped with cameras than regular Mi Note 10, but as I know from reviews, people praise photos quality as well. There is no 108mpx camera, but I must admit - it's a bit overrated. It consumes much power, but in practice I use the full resolution very rarely. It's not really neccessary in real life. Lite version has 48mpx and it's probably sufficient. And no blurry macros from main lens Amoled screen present as well and the prices should be considerably lower.
2) Mi 10T: If you don't care about Amoled that much (personally I care ). It has high screen refresh rate, so user experience should be really fluent. Supported by powerful chipset. I don't know much about cameras, you would have to watch some reviews. And I don't know about prices...
3) Mi 9T/Mi 9T Pro: I'm not sure they are still available, but they were among the best Xiaomi devices up to date. Mi 9T Pro has more powerful chipset, but is more expensive obvioulsy. Both have Amoled screen, good photo quality, no notch. The latter can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what do you expect (selfie lens pop up automatically). I was considering Mi 9T seriously until Mi Note 10 appeared
As for Mi Note 10's fingerprint: It's ok. I wouldn't call it phenomenal though. When the screen is active (I mean on lock screen or in the secured app login screen) it works pretty fast. But it's noticeably slower on Always-on Display - I have to hold my finger a little bit longer to get unlocked. Alternatively, I use face unlock. It's standard on MIUI. I know its less secure, but Im not that scared And my enviroment is relatively safe. Face unlock works really fast.
There are tools to secure your data and apps. I just use app lock for one app with my passwords, and I checked you can secure any folder in the file manager.
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The more I look at the pics the Mi Note 10 can take, the more I'm set to it.
I was looking at the Mi 10T too.
I may buy it or the Mi Note 10 for the same price right now.
Speaking for myself, the Mi 10T sports a number of features that I don't find useful or even valuable, but I'd have to pay for nonetheless.
5G support is a pink invisible unicorn in my Country, at least for a good while. 4G devices are perfect.
The high Hz panel is a battery drain I don't need. You want 144 Hz? The chip must compose and present each. Talking of a... *mumbling* some quick math... 60:100=144:x ... x=144*100/60 ... x=240%... umm, talking of a +140% workload increase over a 60 Hz panel. No thanks!
The SoC is also powerful. Perhaps too much? My P9 runs 4x @ 2.5 and 4x @ 1.8 GHz cores. I can tell you it drains the battery quickly. I value more a slower chip that won't drink energy like beer.
Then there's the IPS vs. AMOLED thing... I've been living with IPS for the last 4.5 years and I appreciate it, but in total darkness the grey fog where black should be is gonna make you wish you chose differently.
Last, but not least, I have no samples to compare the Cameras against other devices. I'm sure that the Camera department has been shrunk to contain the production costs. It also lacks OIS, which I want this time around
As for the Lite versions... they were all in my radar. But none has OIS, and their photos always show artifacts from lot of Post-Processing (PP) to enhance the details. Sure, every phone does PP, but there's a reason if the more expensive devices don't need as much PP as the midrangers.
Camera wise, the Xiaomi Mi Note 10 is something! It's also modern and doesn't cost me a fortune
What I'm not thrilled about are the panel's rounded edges. Will get used to 'em, but I don't dig the change.
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Spoiler: 33 Hours Later (a true story)...
I'll just edit this in, hoping it's not against forum rules.
This afternoon I went to buy the smartphone. I could hardly believe to have found it so close to home (6 km) and at such a low price (349 €). And it was not from some minuscule shop nobody heard of, but in a Shopping Center and from none other than... um, I'm not sure I can name them.
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But I can reveal that it's a 2-words name, each word starting with M and each 5 characters long.
In their ads a capital red M character is also the omnipresent 3D object appearing in place of whatever the advertized product is.
Funny how they use their original name in all Europe, but in my Country alone they operate under a different name (always starting with M. Also, the ads copy the same graphics as the german originals).
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Anyway...
When I go at the counter, the surprises begin. They have 6 units total available and each box is NOT sealed, each phone has a protective film applied ALREADY, and there's a hidden EXTRA cost of 24 € for the "service", in addition to the price stated online.
I couldn't believe my ears as the clerk explained this stuff.
I asked if the phones were returned products or even refurbished, for none of this was explained or hinted at, online.
Heed his words: he didn't say they were "new" or "not refurbished", he said they were "not damaged products"!
Yeah, right...
I said this to him: "You can't prove your claim since the boxes are open. Keep your pre-applied protective films. For 350 euros I buy a sealed box covered by full warranty. You have one ready now, or I go away".
He mumbled: "I'm sorry" while turning at his monitor -- couldn't sustain my stare.
I didn't buy online to reserve the merchandise.
I could do so up until midnight yesterday, but waited too much and lost the opportunity (for reason unknown the merchandise went Unavailable for the time being).
Lady Luck herself made me miss the deal -- thank you thank you thank you!
Had I bought online, now it'd be trouble because... 1) I wouldn't get my money back (they'd give me a time-limited voucher valid in their shops only, but they got nothing I want) and... 2) to retrieve my merchandise at the counter I'd be charged the hidden 24 € -- else I wouldn't walk away with my property. Believe, it's all true!
I wonder what would have been sent me if I purchased online and chose to have it delivered home, and shudder at the idea of receiving a refurbished unit sold for pristine.
This thought is further strengthened by the customer reviews found on the website. Two reviews only, the last one from December 2020 saying that he "likes the Mi Note 10 but is disappointed by the lame touch display and fingerprint sensor".
From all accounts the Mi Note 10 doesn't mount lame hardware. I believe that this guy was sold a refurbished unit and he doesn't suspect it. He also praised the low price of the Mi Note 10. Sounds like he got a device from the lot I was presented today.
This is plain Commercial Misbehavior
[SMALL UPDATE]
In the end I bought the smartphone, at another shop, for another price.
I opted to have it delivered at the very shop, because it's near home and I'd go retrieve it myself.
Why use a courier when the shop is a mere 3 km from home -- right?
The package will arrive in two days from now, that is: the coming Monday... however I won't be able to retrieve it because starting with Monday we're in Lockdown and all shops will be closed. Until March 29th.
Covid sucks in every way