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Hi, I just switched completely from iOS to Android after I while I used an iPhone and a Nexus 7 together. Now I replaced the iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy S4.
I'm pretty happy, but there are a couple of things I still completely grasp about how Android notifications work.
My first issue is related to *blocking mode* and Whatsapp. I have the same issue reported in this discussion.
It seems that the app can bypass Android notification system and relies on something else. Is that true? How can that happen?
I have another concern related to the use of vibration when sound is turned on. It seems that the system-wide settings refers only to phone calls, while for other notifications I have to rely on app-specific settings. Am I correct?
Taking for example facebook app, what would happen if I disable vibration and put the phone in silent mode? Will it vibrate?
Finally, I'd like to have a iOS-like notification list on the lock screen. So far I managed to get it for some applications (Messages, Whatsapp), but I'd really like to have some system-wide properties.
Generally speaking, can you please give me a link to Android documentation explaining what aspects of notifications it manages system-wide and what is responsibility of each application?
I'd really like to see as much as possible managed by the operating system, but from what I am experiencing it seems that it is exactly the other way round with a lot of settings left to the applications.
Blocking mode is a Samsung feature AFAIK. Maybe WhatsApp is using the media channel for notifications instead of the notifications channel? Not sure.
mariosangiorgio said:
Finally, I'd like to have a iOS-like notification list on the lock screen. So far I managed to get it for some applications (Messages, Whatsapp), but I'd really like to have some system-wide properties.
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Take a look at DashClock with one of the many extensions (e.g. AnyDash), NiLS Notifications Lock Screen, or any similar widget.
There's also Floating Notifications, which can show you (bubbles of) your notifications on your lockscreen.
Thanks for the links and for the hypothesis on Whatsapp notifications.
It seems that I have to choose either to have the pattern lock or to add multiple widgets. Am I right?
Is there any way to have both notifications and pattern lock?
I'm afraid pattern lock is again a Samsung specific feature so I'm a concerned about possible integration issues with other widgets.
What about the other question about system-wide vs per-app settings?
mariosangiorgio said:
Thanks for the links and for the hypothesis on Whatsapp notifications.
It seems that I have to choose either to have the pattern lock or to add multiple widgets. Am I right?
Is there any way to have both notifications and pattern lock?
I'm afraid pattern lock is again a Samsung specific feature so I'm a concerned about possible integration issues with other widgets.
What about the other question about system-wide vs per-app settings?
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Samsung disabled widgets with the secure lockscreen for some reason. There's an Xposed module to re-enable it, but you need the Xposed framework (and root).
I'm not sure about the vibration question.
My device is still not-rooted and I am not very keen on rooting.
I did some research and I found Popup Notifier (Sorry but I still can't post links to external websites) that seems what I need.
I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it works.
mariosangiorgio said:
My device is still not-rooted and I am not very keen on rooting.
I did some research and I found Popup Notifier (Sorry but I still can't post links to external websites) that seems what I need.
I'm going to try it and I'll let you know how it works.
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Unfortunately it Popup Notifier is not what I was looking for. I'd like more to have an iOS-like list of notifications rather than popups.
It also felt a bit too hackish that I had to disable text to speech service and enable the app's accessibility service.
I have the feeling that they're misusing accessibility features as a workaround to access notification information.
I see that there are custom lockers. Is it possible to install them without rooting the device? If I install one of them would I be able to setup notifications as I like, add the pattern widget and leave the rest of the system as it is?
mariosangiorgio said:
Unfortunately it Popup Notifier is not what I was looking for. I'd like more to have an iOS-like list of notifications rather than popups.
It also felt a bit too hackish that I had to disable text to speech service and enable the app's accessibility service.
I have the feeling that they're misusing accessibility features as a workaround to access notification information.
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All applications need Accessibility to get the notifications' content, prior to Android 4.3, AFAIK. Or root.
mariosangiorgio said:
I see that there are custom lockers. Is it possible to install them without rooting the device? If I install one of them would I be able to setup notifications as I like, add the pattern widget and leave the rest of the system as it is?
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You can install custom lockscreens without root, but you'll also need Accessibility.
GermainZ said:
All applications need Accessibility to get the notifications' content, prior to Android 4.3, AFAIK. Or root.
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Did 4.3 introduce new APIs to let applications access notifications?
Is there any new app that already uses them? I'd like to try them on my Nexus 7 and then use one also on my S4 once Samsung releases the updated version of the system.
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You can install custom lockscreens without root, but you'll also need Accessibility.
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Got it. Thanks again for your kind replies!
mariosangiorgio said:
Did 4.3 introduce new APIs to let applications access notifications?
Is there any new app that already uses them? I'd like to try them on my Nexus 7 and then use one also on my S4 once Samsung releases the updated version of the system.
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Applications can now use notification listeners, which allow them to detect new notifications (and when they're cleared) from an app. I think Floating Notifications uses it if you're on 4.3, but it's not exactly what you want.
Yes,unfortunately it's not what I'm looking for. I'll keep checking. I hope new app relying on the new features will be published soon
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I came across a few DashClock extensions which do that, although for specific apps. You might want to try a few and see if this is what you want.
Hangouts DashClock Extension
WhatsApp, Facebook, Viber and LINE (4 different extensions) by Tiger-Workshop
You'll need DashClock for these, of course.
Other than that, there's DynamicNotifications you might be interested in. Not quite what you're looking for, but it might do the trick for now.
DynamicNotifications seems very cool. I'll give it a try
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Just in case you don't read the portal, this DashClock extension does what you want by using the notification listener features, instead of Accessibility services.
Thanks for sharing the link! I'll give it a try. It is very promising
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I tried to use it on my S4 but I cannot set the widget.
This time I can't even disable the lock as I reported in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472070
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How to disable search box on Miui 8 Global stable?
pz1982 said:
How to disable search box on Miui 8 Global stable?
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You can delete /system/app/QuickSearchBox/
Are you referring to the search bar in the notification panel?
kenryk said:
Are you referring to the search bar in the notification panel?
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Yes, i want to hide it completely. Deleting searchbox app did not help. Any other idea?
pz1982 said:
Yes, i want to hide it completely. Deleting searchbox app did not help. Any other idea?
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I was looking for the same thing a while ago and found this guide. I last used it on the 6.7.7 build (switched to CM), but it should still work. However, it only disables the functionality of the search bar, so it's still there, but does nothing when touched. Additionally, I replaced the .png files containing the search bar with empty .pngs, and it disappeared completely without affecting anything else. I attached an archive with the files, you just need to replace every instance of each in the res folder of the apk. I had hoped they'd eventually add a setting to toggle it on or off.
Use xMiui.
pz1982 said:
How to disable search box on Miui 8 Global stable?
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If I am not mistaken, then search box in notification panel is not available in global roms. I am running 6.9.1 and it does not have the search box.
Try mi-globe.com @sayedibnmasud its based on xiaomi.eu's China ROM & far superior than stock global mate.
P.S. - But I do have to agree that their smart search which does nothing except redirect to other apps.
Hi Guys,
I've made a video demonstrating how I accidentally enabled the Android Oreo style multitasking cards, pretty cool as I hate the new Android P style.
https://youtu.be/-gra_UFSBGE
the commands is:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
Ensure you have another launcher installed and enabled BEFORE removing the stock launcher.
Also note you will loose the stock gestures if you enable it, only the back command works.
So I had to overscan the screen to remove the Nav bar, as using immersive mode broke the lock screen.
Great! By the way, how can I revert back if I ever want to have the Huawei Launcher back?
e_mc_square said:
Great! By the way, how can I revert back if I ever want to have the Huawei Launcher back?
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Yer the only way to revert back is to reset the phone back to factory settings, unless you side load the APK file for the Huawei EMUI 9.0 Launcher (if you save a copy).
But no love lost for me, IMHO it's a crap launcher and multitasking interface...
sevanig said:
Hi Guys,
I've made a video demonstrating how I accidentally enabled the Android Oreo style multitasking cards, pretty cool as I hate the new Android P style.
https://youtu.be/-gra_UFSBGE
the commands is:
adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.huawei.android.launcher
Ensure you have another launcher installed and enabled BEFORE removing the stock launcher.
Also note you will loose the stock gestures if you enable it, only the back command works.
So I had to overscan the screen to remove the Nav bar, as using immersive mode broke the lock screen.
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Interesting!
I also dislike the way multitasking works.
Does doing this remove the gestures option that the Mate 20 Pro has?
e_mc_square said:
Great! By the way, how can I revert back if I ever want to have the Huawei Launcher back?
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You can grab a backup first with this command
Code:
adb pull /system/app/HwLauncher6/HwLauncher6.apk
I haven't tried to reinstall but it should just be an adb push instead.
senjiroh said:
Interesting!
I also dislike the way multitasking works.
Does doing this remove the gestures option that the Mate 20 Pro has?
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When using the system gesture navigation mode, It breaks the swipe up and swipe up and hold from the bottom of the screen.
And unfortunately even using the edge gesture application to replace those, it won't allow it, it's somehow blocks it.
The back gestures work tho.
You can use the regular nav bar and then a gesture application and then swipe up works, but enabling immersive mode breaks the lock screen (shows up black with a delay to display the lock screen).
So I use and combination of system gesture mode, for the back command and full screen mode, and edge gestures for the rest (from the sides of the screen), however tap and tap and hold do work on the btm of the screen using edge gestures, just not swipe up as described above.
If anyone can get the swipe up to work that would be greatly appreciated.
e_mc_square said:
Great! By the way, how can I revert back if I ever want to have the Huawei Launcher back?
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You don't need to Uninstall important packages that you might want to re-enable later.
It is possible to just disable them, and keep the files available for easy re-enabling!
* FIRST OF ALL:
adb shell
* TO LIST ALL INSTALLED STUFF:
pm list packages | sort
* TO DISABLE A PACKAGE (for example the Huawei launcher):
pm disable-user --user 0 <Package Name>
* TO UNDO (re-enable):
pm enable --user 0 <Package Name>
saturnspike said:
You can grab a backup first with this command
Code:
adb pull /system/app/HwLauncher6/HwLauncher6.apk
I haven't tried to reinstall but it should just be an adb push instead.
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You cannot push if you're not rooted
I like the new P multitasking. The old stack multitasking was nightmare. You were able only to switch to the previuos apps since all others were hidden behind. The EMUI 9 implementation is similar to the EMUI 4.1. The only thing that I miss from 4.1 is the long press action on the recent app. In the EMUI 9 task switcher you need to long press the icon which is too small.
The EMUI 4.1 task switcher is maybe the best Android stock switcher.
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gamekill said:
You don't need to Uninstall important packages that you might want to re-enable later.
It is possible to just disable them, and keep the files available for easy re-enabling!
* FIRST OF ALL:
adb shell
* TO LIST ALL INSTALLED STUFF:
pm list packages | sort
* TO DISABLE A PACKAGE (for example the Huawei launcher):
pm disable-user --user 0 <Package Name>
* TO UNDO (re-enable):
pm enable --user 0 <Package Name>
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This is the best answer. My phone's lag just gone.
You should start a new thread to tell others. Even XDA homepage shows uninstalling option.
can someone who has uninstalled the launcher do a quick check for me?
please install the newest pixe launcher or 1 of the newest pie launchers and set the navbar to the keys (no gestures), give the new launcher all permissens that it wants and reboot.
i would like to know if the new nav gestures and recents overview will kick in and work
which launcher do you mean, do you have link? I had installed the Google Pixel Launcher, but it cannot be set as default launcher, cause it crashes.
webpatrick said:
which launcher do you mean, do you have link? I had installed the Google Pixel Launcher, but it cannot be set as default launcher, cause it crashes.
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did you uninstalled huiawei home first?, try lawnchair from apk mirror please
demon2112 said:
did you uninstalled huiawei home first?, try lawnchair from apk mirror please
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No I did not uninstall it, I don't want to, I had it disabled via adb shell, but now I have re-enabled it cause I'm trying the horizontal resent app-view.
webpatrick said:
which launcher do you mean, do you have link? I had installed the Google Pixel Launcher, but it cannot be set as default launcher, cause it crashes.
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I was having the same issue. You need to manually add permissions in the apps settings, then set the Pixel Launcher as your default and it won't crash.
So is this specific to Mate 20 pro? I'd like to try this on my Honor 8x.
I wish we could do this without breaking the gestures, I love them as they are more intuitive and donde waste any space like the nav bar did,
I wish Huawei copied Xiaomi's MIUI recents UI for EMUI 10, Xiaomi's implementation is the very best one out there, better than stock, even better than the old LP-Oreo recents
Fidelator said:
I wish we could do this without breaking the gestures, I love them as they are more intuitive and donde waste any space like the nav bar did,
I wish Huawei copied Xiaomi's MIUI recents UI for EMUI 10, Xiaomi's implementation is the very best one out there, better than stock, even better than the old LP-Oreo recents
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Download the app fluid N.G on the store
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It looks nice, however, my experience so far with these third party apps is that they end up turning into battery and RAM hogging bottlenecks, I don't know if it is the case with his one.
Just FYI
You can reinstall the launcher with this command, as the apk is actually still in the phones memory...
adb shell cmd package install-existing com.huawei.android.launcher
Also you can block background usage of the Home launcher if you're using an alternative one with this command;
adb shell cmd appops set com.huawei.android.launcher RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
Hi all, I've recently bought a Reno 10x in China and I've several issues with that color OS : ROM PCCM00_11_A 18_96c98aa7
1) no notification icons on the status bar ; I've tried everything , but it seems that in my ROM there isn't the sub menu "notification prompt mode"
also I've no numbers notification on the dot on the app icon.
Basically it impossible for me to see if I've have new message on WhatsApp for example, of course I've notification on the screen look menu , but since I use every day the fingerprint sensor I never see the screen look.
2) isn't possible to configure Google assistant and more over the phone is blocking the automatic voice match ( I've a ROM with BREENO as assistant) :-0
3) Whit Google maps is impossible tho share my location with my friends (color is apparently is blocking )
4) problems with exchange:
I had no app for mail by default so Installed Gmail : ok it's work , but calendar and tasks from exchange are not showing!! So it's impossible for me to work!
No way , it's a mess ....
Could someone help me ? Do I need to install a "real" global ROOM?
How can I do?
Many thanks !
I've got the same problem with the notifications. Someone a solution?
The background notification problem can easily be fixed.
SjDU said:
The background notification problem can easily be fixed.
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Doesn't work always..
Fir3blade said:
Doesn't work always..
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Working for me. Used adb with some help. Now it's working good. Am happy with it.
SjDU said:
Working for me. Used adb with some help. Now it's working good. Am happy with it.
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I know how to use adb, deinstalled athena successfully, but notifications still doesn't show up on statusbar..
Fir3blade said:
I know how to use adb, deinstalled athena successfully, but notifications still doesn't show up on statusbar..
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Global Rom/ India Rom also has athena apk and no problem with that apk and notifications so i think problem is with something else in china Rom.
Can we flash global/indian rom?
Fir3blade said:
I know how to use adb, deinstalled athena successfully, but notifications still doesn't show up on statusbar..
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For the application, you must also give all permissions, autorun and notification settings. It starts to work not immediately, it was about 5-10 minutes for me, but after all the notifications come right away.
Did all of this, but still no icons on statusbar.
Oppo Reno status bar fix
SjDU said:
The background notification problem can easily be fixed.
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Hi, can you tell me more how to do the tweak on Oppo Reno so to get icon notifications on status bar? Like explain every step as I am quite "green" with that stuff... Thanks
At this point there is no way to get notifications on the status bar. I have the same problem and am trying to return the phone because I already wasted too much time trying to fix this along with all the other problems:
tl;dr; DO NOT buy the Chinese rom version!
- Notifications are all disabled by default. You have to enable them individually for every single app, and most apps have multiple notification types that each need to be separately enabled.
- The process for enabling notification for an app includes changing notification settings, power settings, startup settings, and locking the app in recents, for every single app.
- Only 5 apps can be enabled to receive notifications (startup options).
- Can't change the default SMS app, it will revert back when you receive a message.
- Can't change the default launcher without removing the coloros launcher through adb.
- Swipe gesture will not work if you do remove the default launcher.
- Nova launcher badge permission gets reset so you no longer see notifications.
- There is no way to flash the global rom.
How do people actually use this phone?
Hi, I see... For me besides the lack of icons on status bar the phone seems good as I don't plan to change launcher or rom. ( I know bit boring, but I've faced the same issue with Vivo)
But guys have have you heard of Xiaomi Mi 9 global version has the same problem with status bar icons and they came up with an app that's available on Play Store: Notch Test. And it worked well. I tested it myself. Can we do it with Oppo??? I mean can someone do such app for Oppo Reno?
mobiusred said:
At this point there is no way to get notifications on the status bar. I have the same problem and am trying to return the phone because I already wasted too much time trying to fix this along with all the other problems:
tl;dr; DO NOT buy the Chinese rom version!
- Notifications are all disabled by default. You have to enable them individually for every single app, and most apps have multiple notification types that each need to be separately enabled.
- The process for enabling notification for an app includes changing notification settings, power settings, startup settings, and locking the app in recents, for every single app.
- Only 5 apps can be enabled to receive notifications (startup options).
- Can't change the default SMS app, it will revert back when you receive a message.
- Can't change the default launcher without removing the coloros launcher through adb.
- Swipe gesture will not work if you do remove the default launcher.
- Nova launcher badge permission gets reset so you no longer see notifications.
- There is no way to flash the global rom.
How do people actually use this phone?
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This is common issue for phone selling in China.
If want China brand phone, must get global edition instead of China edition. This apply to Oppo, Vivo and Xiaomi. I not sure on Huawei, maybe also same.
Yes avoid oppo Chinese version
Awful app restriction
Does the global version work as normal with notifications?
Thinking about buying 5g version.
hummingbird27 said:
Hi, can you tell me more how to do the tweak on Oppo Reno so to get icon notifications on status bar? Like explain every step as I am quite "green" with that stuff... Thanks
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Quite Simple. Install Adb... Then write
Adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.coloros.athena
And boom all the notifications will start working. App won't be killed in the background.
SjDU said:
Quite Simple. Install Adb... Then write
Adb shell pm uninstall -k --user 0 com.coloros.athena
And boom all the notifications will start working. App won't be killed in the background.
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Can't believe that, as it didn't work on my side, and International version also has com.coloros.athena...
Anybody know how to get autofill from Google? I have all files but there is no autofill in settings
Where can I get google play apk for my chinese version?
Hello all.
I finally jumped on the Android 10 / Q bandwagon straight from Android 8 / Oreo (I skipped Android 9 / Pie altogether).
Is there any way to remove the weather on the lockscreen? I use a third-party app for displaying weather on my lockscreen.
If there is any way to remove it, I just can't find it. I was told that in Android P one could go to Settings > Display> Screen display> Lockscreen and remove it from there, but I can't find such option on my phone.
Best regards.
BreadedChicken said:
Hello all.
I finally jumped on the Android 10 / Q bandwagon straight from Android 8 / Oreo (I skipped Android 9 / Pie altogether).
Is there any way to remove the weather on the lockscreen? I use a third-party app for displaying weather on my lockscreen.
If there is any way to remove it, I just can't find it. I was told that in Android P one could go to Settings > Display> Screen display> Lockscreen and remove it from there, but I can't find such option on my phone.
Best regards.
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Breaded chicken you just made me hungry
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PoochyX said:
Breaded chicken you just made me hungry
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Uhm... Thank you? I guess...
Now about removing the weather from the lockscreen, can anyone help me?
What is the app called?
What app are you planning to use for that? The weather doesn't show for me, so I thought maybe I could you it.
Regards
peoeope said:
What app are you planning to use for that? The weather doesn't show for me, so I thought maybe I could you it.
Regards
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It isn't an app, it's a system functionality in Android 9 and 10. To have it you need the right phone (Pixel phones, OnePlus phones, .... Phone which are close to stock Android), and if you have a compatible smartphone, you just have to leave the location enabled. (And everytime I disable location, the weather disappears)
But you said you wanted to use a third party app for it. Now I'm confused.