Hi not a development thread so apologies if I've posted this in the wrong place.
I've recently purchased a stratos and have managed to scratch the screen. Does anyone have any suggestions for repairing it? The watch shop I went too simply said post it back to the manufacturer. Thanks
I haven't scratched my BIP yet, but I got good results using mild abrasives on scratches on my Pebble watches.
By "mild abrasives" I mean toothpaste (white type, not gel) and jeweler's rouge.
If the scratch isn't too deep, you might get some results by just rubbing it with rough paper, like facial tissue, paper towel, etc.
Regards,
Eric
ebsebs said:
I haven't scratched my BIP yet, but I got good results using mild abrasives on scratches on my Pebble watches.
By "mild abrasives" I mean toothpaste (white type, not gel) and jeweler's rouge.
If the scratch isn't too deep, you might get some results by just rubbing it with rough paper, like facial tissue, paper towel, etc.
Regards,
Eric
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Thanks I'll give it a try!
Or just try putting a screen protector over it. If it's not too deep it will simply "disappear" under the screen protector.
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hello to all,
I had a small incident during some home repair work where I didn't realize that I had adhesive on the fingers when I answered the tel. After that I found traces of adhesive on the screen as one can see on the photo. I did not remember if I had placed a screen protector on my toshiba at the beginning or not. Then To check it I tried to remove it with the nail to take off an edge, and an end is actually detached, except that it does not look like a screen protector, but a kind of plastic layer semi-rigid which has the thickness of a protective film! It looks like a protective hard coat which comes with the phone but is not supposed to be removed.
I am afraid now to pull it off and damage my screen even more. Then I would like to know if somebody already experienced this problem and could remove this protective layer.
If so please share your experience. I may not be the only one with this issue.
Thanks a lot and sorry for my poor English.
That looks indeed like part of the case that protects the touch screen. I will try ebay and look for a replacement case.
its avible on ebay for 17 euros only
i think that surface is not a protective layer.. i think it's part of the touchscreen.
I removed mine today. Touch screen still works
The coating makes the screen less prone to scratches, and makes slight scratches less apparent. After removing the coating, I noticed the lots of tiny scratches I made on the screen, but they're gone after I stick a new screen protector on it.
I'm glad I removed it because there's a scratch on mine.
Phil_123 said:
I removed mine today. Touch screen still works
The coating makes the screen less prone to scratches, and makes slight scratches less apparent. After removing the coating, I noticed the lots of tiny scratches I made on the screen, but they're gone after I stick a new screen protector on it.
I'm glad I removed it because there's a scratch on mine.
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Can you report exactly how did you make it? Are you sure that it was not a previous protective screen? I've just bought a second TG01 with a scratched screen but I don't dare to do what you did
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Can you report exactly how did you make it? Are you sure that it was not a previous protective screen? I've just bought a second TG01 with a scratched screen but I don't dare to do what you did
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It is not a previous protective screen. It is factory applied, there's a lot of glue residue on the screen after I remove it. Took me a lot of time to remove the glue by "pushing" the glue to a side with my fingers, then cleaning it off with WD40.
I bought my second hand TG01 in June and have been using it every day ever since. A few days ago, presumably due to cold weather, I noticed this hard coat is starting to wear off, there's a mark on the screen like a badly applied screen protector, so I started to remove it.
The glue that stuck the hard coat onto the screen was very strong, so be patient and take extra care when removing the coat. Do it slowly so only the hard coat is removed but not the soft touch screen layer below it.
DO stick a new screen protector on the screen after removing the hard coat as the unprotected screen is more prone to scratches without the hard coat.
After two days of use, do NOT remove the hard coat. I think I damaged the touch screen in the progress, it's now very hard to tap on the intended position correctly.
Now going to buy a new touch screen
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After two days of use, do NOT remove the hard coat. I think I damaged the touch screen in the progress, it's now very hard to tap on the intended position correctly.
Now going to buy a new touch screen
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Thank you for your WARNING.
I wonder if you could film the process of changing the touch! If you have success (as expected) this video would be very useful for other people interested (as me)
Crossed fingers!
It's not a video and it might take google translator to understand it, but, thanx to a guy called chdeul, there are very interesting explanations and pictures on the french forum:
http://toshiba-tg01.forumactif.com/t1205-tuto-demontage-du-toshiba-tg01
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It's not a video and it might take google translator to understand it, but, thanx to a guy called chdeul, there are very interesting explanations and pictures on the french forum:
http://toshiba-tg01.forumactif.com/t1205-tuto-demontage-du-toshiba-tg01
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This is VERY interesting and well done description in the link you provided! I almost opened my phone but due to lack of appropriate courage and tools and understanding, I stopped for now, but will soon re-try!
I have the smallest scratch I'm the middle of my screen goes completely from the left side to the right it makes the pixelz stand out though any way to buff this out?
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sorry to hear about your scratch! someone once told me to put toothpaste on the scratch and wait for it to dry.. then lightly buff it off with a dry cloth and it should be less noticable.. doesnt sound like a permanent fix but it's worth a shot since toothpaste is easily accessible..
On a white screen its very noticeable on a black screen if I tilt the phone you can see the pixels and reflection of the scratch I'll try the tooth paste I'm hoping it works
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There was a great thread where someone spent a LOT of effort in sanding the phones screen down to where it was smooth again.
I think that is extreme, but it worked for him. I'm certain you can find that thread...
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sorry to hear about your scratch! someone once told me to put toothpaste on the scratch and wait for it to dry.. then lightly buff it off with a dry cloth and it should be less noticable.. doesnt sound like a permanent fix but it's worth a shot since toothpaste is easily accessible..
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If you have not already done this - DON'T
Toothpaste is far too abrasive for both the screen and the coating that is on it. look around for plastic polish and get the finest grit you can find, final polish only. Try automotive parts store, hobby and craft stores, or online. When polishing use the compound very sparingly, use only as much pressure as needed, and work in a small circular motion with a dampened polish cloth and compound. It will take a long time and a lot of polishing, but you should be able to get it out without damaging the coating or the screen. It is very easy to get impatient and permanently scar your screen so take you time.
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There was a great thread where someone spent a LOT of effort in sanding the phones screen down to where it was smooth again.
I think that is extreme, but it worked for him. I'm certain you can find that thread...
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LOL, he probably used toothpaste and had no choice.
FOUND IT!!!
Here is a great read for this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821129&highlight=repair+screen
big kudos to the author.
His post states that tech support verified that there is no coating. I found another thread where a person trying to fix a scratch polished off a section of coating. I am going to go out on a limb here and guess that the thread where he thought he polished off the coating he had just rubbed it so smooth the reflectivity was different.
Very interesting I will not be going through the tooth paste method but I will try the polish and buffing
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I haven't tried it on my phone screen, but for scratches on both glass and plastics I have used children's training toothpaste that has little to no abrasives.
Well I be able to see the pixels across the screen where the scratch is With any of these methods? Cause It causes a sort of bubble effect when looking at the screen from different angles
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Hi everyone,
I get one or two deep scratches on my Folio screen (thanks to my beloved dog ) that I can't remove, at least I used my dremmel and plastic polisher and the scratch doesn't dissapear.
Before I try something harder, like metal polisher, or even wet sanding I would like to ask Where I can get a spare front glass.
Best Regards,
bastospn
Hi,
Anyone can help, please? I'm avoiding to send it to Toshiba as they don't have a local repair center.
I am afraid the only option you have is to send it in.
I carefully removed the glass and then using wet sanding paper I removed the scratches, I get some polishing soap and it is shinning again. It topo me all day to have it done
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I carefully removed the glass and then using wet sanding paper I removed the scratches, I get some polishing soap and it is shinning again. It topo me all day to have it done
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Hi - Does it still work ok?
Yes, I only removed the front "glass"´, so no electronic part was damage during the process.
I have been giving RainX alternative called Ultimate X a try since I bought it from Walmart a few months ago, but it doesn't seem to effectively repel fingerprints. On oleophobic coated screens, fingerprints smudges show lightly, but after removing ASF and applying Ultimate X, there is small improvement, but now fingerprints are really really dark and thick, and looks really disgusting. It looks like some thick sticky sauce got smudged on there or something. It's not very easy to wipe off completely, but after some tries, it is wipable.
Is this normal for RainX? I know that RainX is a water repellent, and NOT oil repellent, but why are people saying it works wonders on phone screens? It doesn't on mine. After 30 minutes of use, my XZU screen looks so disgusting and smudges are SO thick and dark.
I know there are screen protectors out there, but I'm afraid a case I will buy won't fit due to the thicker glass protector. I tried Anti-glare, but couldn't stand the graininess. Took it off, and my god, the screen looks amazing again!
I am planning to try Whoosh Screen Shine product tomorrow. They sell it at a a store close to home, so I'm gonna buy one and try. Shipping is about 5 bucks extra so no point of buying online. I will let you guys know how Whoosh works.
Any input you guys have, please leave it below. Thanks.
The problem isnt rainx or whatever. The real issue is the glass panel. It has a rough surface. This is to help the plastic asf to bond to the glass.
The glass panel really need to be buffed with a soft wheel for a while to get that crystal shininess. With a sponge and loose cotton wheel.
And after that you can apply some sort of clear coat like rainx or what you prefer. It will make a huge difference.
Really? I didnt know that! Thanks for letting me know. I'm not really knowledgeable in this buffing thing cause ive never heard of it before i read about applying rainx. Do you mind giving me steps on how i can do it perfectly on my XZU? Also, are there alternative material i can use instead of buffing wheel? Like stuff you can find commonly at home. Thanks, so much.
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The problem isnt rainx or whatever. The real issue is the glass panel. It has a rough surface. This is to help the plastic asf to bond to the glass.
The glass panel really need to be buffed with a soft wheel for a while to get that crystal shininess. With a sponge and loose cotton wheel.
And after that you can apply some sort of clear coat like rainx or what you prefer. It will make a huge difference.
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Really? I didnt know that! Thanks for letting me know. I'm not really knowledgeable in this buffing thing cause ive never heard of it before i read about applying rainx. Do you mind giving me steps on how i can do it perfectly on my XZU? Also, are there alternative material i can use instead of buffing wheel? Like stuff you can find commonly at home. Thanks, so much.
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No no. This is not a thing you will do if you are not experienced with the whole process of things like painting, buffing and working with glass as in this case.
If you know someone who are experienced with these kind of things or even better. Who perhaps works in an Automobile paint shop you can ask if they are willing to take an hour or two to do your phone.
Back and front.
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No no. This is not a thing you will do if you are not experienced with the whole process of things like painting, buffing and working with glass as in this case.
If you know someone who are experienced with these kind of things or even better. Who perhaps works in an Automobile paint shop you can ask if they are willing to take an hour or two to do your phone.
Back and front.
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Oh..I see. Ah.. im pretty disappointed. I just ordered a case but Im not sure if a glass screen protector with oleophobic coating would fit.
Do you know any other solution to reduce fingerprints? Will oleophobic coating work on this glass with no asf film? I'm not sure uf Whoosh would work now that you told me this info. I'm now hesitant to spend money on Whoosh. Not sure if they accept retuRNs if I spray and use it to try it.
Do you have any other solution for me? Thank's again.
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Oh..I see. Ah.. im pretty disappointed. I just ordered a case but Im not sure if a glass screen protector with oleophobic coating would fit.
Do you know any other solution to reduce fingerprints? Will oleophobic coating work on this glass with no asf film? I'm not sure uf Whoosh would work now that you told me this info. I'm now hesitant to spend money on Whoosh. Not sure if they accept retuRNs if I spray and use it to try it.
Do you have any other solution for me? Thank's again.
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Im using a mocolo screen protector. It works great. This is my second set I bought.
http://glass4m.com/product/mocolo-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
It makes the phone more rigid because this phone is easy to bend so this is a good thing . And it adds a bit of weight as well
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Im using a mocolo screen protector. It works great. This is my second set I bought.
http://glass4m.com/product/mocolo-premium-tempered-glass-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z-ultra/
It makes the phone more rigid because this phone is easy to bend so this is a good thing . And it adds a bit of weight as well
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Thanks for the suggestion. I already bought this case
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/for-...ce-suit-Metal-protective-skin/1864985391.html
And I think glass screen protector is too thick for my phone to fit in this case. I like the feel of metal way more than glass or this back panel with asf film, so I'm trying this case.
I have a good news though. I actually bought Whoosh! yesterday and tried it out. Its works so much better than the rainx alternative UltimateX I had. Sure there are still some fingerprints but its definitely reduced. Not too mention my screen is almost germ free now, and the product is completely natural. I really like it. Anyone reading this should try it too. Its pretty cheap.
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sw6lee said:
Thanks for the suggestion. I already bought this case
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/for-...ce-suit-Metal-protective-skin/1864985391.html
And I think glass screen protector is too thick for my phone to fit in this case. I like the feel of metal way more than glass or this back panel with asf film, so I'm trying this case.
I have a good news though. I actually bought Whoosh! yesterday and tried it out. Its works so much better than the rainx alternative UltimateX I had. Sure there are still some fingerprints but its definitely reduced. Not too mention my screen is almost germ free now, and the product is completely natural. I really like it. Anyone reading this should try it too. Its pretty cheap.
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Ah. I used to use cases before but I always ended up removing them all the time. Nowadays I only use powercases. I got two 5000mAh cases. Perfect to run in a cycle. One charging and other one is in use and when I get home I switch to the other one recharged and so on
With all the complaints of just glue around the edges of glass screen protectors, especially the curved edge to edge ones, has anybody though about trying to find and apply their own? I did a quick search for glue or adhesives for screen protectors, but all I could find was glue to replace actual screens, which were permanent bonding type. I'm thinking if you could just buy the adhesive yourself, apply to the whole protector, then pretty much all the pitfalls of current crop of tgsp for the op5 go away. Thoughts?
From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
Applying it in a way that keeps it invisible is the trick.
I've had similar thoughts btw
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Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
Trying to source the right one of those might be the best bet.
I haven't been through them all, but a transparent under 200um would be best.
tesa 61360 is 100um thick.
Tbh I wonder if a 5mm wide tape would be better than full screen. But I guess there's tapes wide enough to do all the screen
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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And if it doesn't work you take it of again.
Nice to see the spirit that made xda great is still alive and kicking..
Where's your spirit of adventure?
djsubterrain said:
This is a really bad idea, these protectors are manufactured in a factory, if you go looking for some kind of adhesive and try apply it yourself it's just gonna look terrible, it'll probably be too thick, the screen won't be responsive enough and it'll be uneven. Forget it.
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I didn't realize it was a strip of silicon. I was thinking more along the lines of some sort of spray adhesive. Low strength, optically clear of course would be ideal. Applying a strip would indeed be a bad idea.
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From what i understand it's a very thin layer of silicon.
[/COLOR]Tesa make the tapes for this btw.
https://www.tesa.com/industry/electronics/applications/screen-mounting
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Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
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Those are the very strips that come on screen protectors that people don't like though, the full face adhesive protectors are best as they don't let dust under the edges as much and don't have the rainbow effect, the protector only being adhered round the edges is the reason people get that rainbow effect.
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Unless you get a sheet of that tape to cover all the screen..
My initial thoughts were just a slightly wider strip than the usual. That should give a better deal than what we've had so far..
I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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Glass camera lens assemblies are glued together with a UV set adhesive. It is not a trivial task to separate these elements after bonding but it does make a bubble free bond and remains workable until hit with the UV. a search for camera lens cement should find several choices. Before high tech the lens elements were bonded with a balsam adhesive which also works.
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I've seen something like this for the S8. whitestonedome.com protectors that fit perfectly.
They use a uv adhesive. From what I can research, the type of glue is called LOCA - Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive and needs a UV light to set. Now, I found one type called TP2500 that is somewhat cheap. But it's supoosedly used to bond the LCD screen to the glass during repair. I have no clue about the bond strengths involved and I wouldn't want a TSP permernantly bonded.
But then, heres what I'm thinking. I've seen Chinese TSP that overhang the curve sides slightly, but they offer a sealing liquid to "patch" that. And that sort of works. But from what I see on the reviews. It fails after a while. Weeks to months later the gap reappears. Rinse and repeat. Could we use a LOCA with a sensible bond strength to patch the gap until the time we want to remove it? Pretty much a poor man's version of whitestonedome.
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I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
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This might be worth looking into. From what I can tell, it's a a sheet of double sided optically clear adhesive. I can't find a listing for oneplus 5 and I haven't taken the time to see if any other phone models have a similar sized screen. Maybe something like iPhone 6 plus and then trim to fit?
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/262545719984
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The OCA tape is supposedly the more convenient cousin of the LOCA that's also used to bond lcd to glass. I would assume the bond strengths to be similar. Just less equipment required.
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I saw the loca glue, but from what I understand is that it is more of a permanent bond. I'm sure it would work well, but would probably be more trouble than it's work to remove it.
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https://youtu.be/8EBOs_Fntjs
The videos available for the whitestone protector show that its possible to just peel it off. Considering that they also use a UV curing glue, I would suspect there is a low bond version LOCA. Or the lcd is just that fragile during repair that the special tools are required. More Google work might get some answers on that.
I did find the bond strength for the TP2500 though. 0.3 N per mm2. About 3kg per cm2. No clue if that is strong though since I have no frame of reference.
Moar digging.... There has to be a way to get the TSP to work on our phone...
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