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I'm feeling somewhat disappointed on Asus's decision to move the transformer towards the direction the ipad is taking by making slight hardware changes and massively bumping up the display.
I remember when apple invented the 'retina display' buzzword for ips panels a few years ago - marketing them as having the most pixels your eyes can see from a holding distance. Now apple is keeping the tablet the same size and bumping up the pixel density 4 times with suspected plans of marketing that as being better. How? They've already stated more pixels would be redundant.
At this point the tablet to buy isn't looking like the ipad 3 or the tf700, lenovo is sweeping in with the ideapad k2 to offer more hardware changes (usb on the tablet, 1.7ghz t3, fingerprint scanner, possible keyboard dock) as well as a high def display.
What kind of change will these displays provide? Drastic?
Cons
decreased battery life slight
slightly decreased performance..
more screen defects ( however you would never notice a dead pixel! being so small)
higher cost of the tablet most high resolution tablets will start at 599 including the iPad3
most people will not be able to tell the difference
Media in that format (2k) would fill your 32gbs so quickly!
Less vivid colors/contrast ratio/refresh rate? (correct me if I am wrong)
Pro's
about Twice the amount of pixels! (4x the pixels in the case of the iPad3)
sharper text!
better looking movies if you can fit them on the tablet!
Bragging rights?
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Can you actually see the pixel difference on a 1920x1200 screen over the primes?
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I've counted them (the pixels) and the difference is that the count took two times as long!
But seriously, there is a point when it would be hard to see a difference, where more pixels would NOT really make a clearer screen.
I was offered a full refund on my prime and dock and am thinking about taking it... and seeing what MWC has to offer... maybe the samsung galaxy note 10.1 or something else lenovo maybe.....
maybe they will pull something off and release a Nexus tab
or windows 8......
idk what to do but I want this things headaches gone.....
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I was offered a full refund on my prime and dock and am thinking about taking it... and seeing what MWC has to offer... maybe the samsung galaxy note 10.1 or something else lenovo maybe.....
maybe they will pull something off and release a Nexus tab
or windows 8......
idk what to do but I want this things headaches gone.....
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Wordlywisewiz said:
I was offered a full refund on my prime and dock and am thinking about taking it... and seeing what MWC has to offer... maybe the samsung galaxy note 10.1 or something else lenovo maybe.....
maybe they will pull something off and release a Nexus tab
or windows 8......
idk what to do but I want this things headaches gone.....
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I am sorry that you are having problems with the Prime. However nothing you have said is actually relevant to the conversation that this thread was started with. Please try to keep on-topic, there are plenty of other threads where you can discus your tablet problems.
With regards to pixel density... it very much depends on how you use your Prime. If you read a lot on the Prime and have noticed pixelation in small text, then yes, upping the pixel density would improve your tablet experience. If you mainly watch videos then you probably won't notice the extra pixels on the size of screen that the Prime has.
The exact same debate took place when 1080P TV's came out. People that already bought 720P used the same defenses as to why 1080P TV's are overkill. 80% of high-def TV's sold last year were 1080P. Does anyone not think Apple's going to spend a gazillion dollars convincing the world life as we know will end if you don't have a retina (HD) display? Asus, Acer, and Samsung aren't introducing HD displays because it's practical, it's to combat Apple. How many of you expect your next phone to be qHD or 720P? And its only got a 4-5" display. Whether you personally care or not, tablets with HD displays are going to become the norm (potentially impacting the resale value of those that don't have it).
Wordlywisewiz said:
Cons
decreased battery life slight
slightly decreased performance..
more screen defects ( however you would never notice a dead pixel! being so small)
higher cost of the tablet most high resolution tablets will start at 599 including the iPad3
most people will not be able to tell the difference
Media in that format (2k) would fill your 32gbs so quickly!
Less vivid colors/contrast ratio/refresh rate? (correct me if I am wrong)
Pro's
about Twice the amount of pixels! (4x the pixels in the case of the iPad3)
sharper text!
better looking movies if you can fit them on the tablet!
Bragging rights?
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
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How is 1920x1200 = 2k?
And because the prime has that resolution doesn't mean there will be a lot of content using the extra 120 pixels lol.
it will be 1080p content with black bars on top and bottom, no difference in file sizes at all.
I guess it depends. In my opinion its all about what you're used to. For example, i'm used to gaming on a PC. There you use Anti-Aliasing on the games in 1080p, so i'm used to perfectly sharp images without any jagged edges. If I see the same games on a Xbox i always think the graphics are horrible, while most people think there are some amazing looking games on the xbox...
And i used to play Tomb Raider 1 on my old PC in 320x240 on a 15" CRT monitor. That was bad dpi. I still enjoyed it very much
So atm i have a 27" PC/TV combo monitor with 1080p. Thats what my eyes are used to. So my prime looks sharper to me than my PC monitor, and i think my PC monitor is more than sharp enough i hope you see now where i'm getting. I also cant tell the difference in dpi from my 800x480 4.3" phone to the iphone display...
What i'm trying to say, no one needs that kind of resolution. Its just nice to have, and once you got used to it, you probably dont wanna go back. All things aside, I think the Prime's screen is absolutely beautiful.
So if I had to compare 2 devices with different resolution the one very sharp, the other very very sharp I would look on all the other features first.
For example if the TF700T would have like 1 hour less battery life and would be heavier i'd still go for the Prime.
If we're talking RUMOURED ipad 3 resolution, well just think about this. Watching movies in that resolution (you first had to get them somehow, as far as i know all movies are max 1920x1080 today?) would be pretty sharp right. But because of a screen format that hasnt been used anymore since 10 years you will only be using a very small part of that screen to actually watch that movie.
Now everyone has to decide for themselfs, but for me there are FAR FAR more important features than resolution (especially if the difference is barely visable for me).
But people have spent huge amount of money on unuseful tech for lesser reasons
Off course yu can see the difference. Just take a look at your phone display(800*480 or higher), you'll notice that it's much sharper than any tablet screen.
The biggest "problem" of resolutions that high is that the graphics processor has to deal with much more pixels(in our case 2304000(1920*1200)/10024000(1280*800)=2,25 times).
In the case of games this could mean games running at less than half the speed(FPS), assuming it has the same CPU/GPU combination.
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Off course yu can see the difference. Just take a look at your phone display(800*480 or higher), you'll notice that it's much sharper than any tablet screen.
The biggest "problem" of resolutions that high is that the graphics processor has to deal with much more pixels(in our case 2304000(1920*1200)/10024000(1280*800)=2,25 times).
In the case of games this could mean games running at less than half the speed(FPS), assuming it has the same CPU/GPU combination.
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Well, it won't have the exact same GPU, and the iPad 2 has a pretty ridiculously powerful PowerVR GPU. However I question Apple's choice to use GPUs that tend to focus on polygon performance instead of fill rate performance particularly when they're looking to dramatically increase screen resolution.
Apple is running out of things to say is best with the iPad / iPhone short of gimmicks like Siri and "retina" displays. They're going to pay for it in other areas though, they're going to need to have a GPU with a killer fill rate, and though the current SGX543MP2 can probably manage, doubtless they'll cram something that eats even more power into the iPad 3.
The thing that most Apple users don't know is that most of the tablet apps they'll be buying off the market won't make use of the high resolution or the processor, as the majority will have been built to run on the now-comparatively-pathetic iPad 1. At least we're seeing THD apps that make use of the additional processing power our tablets have to offer. I've yet to hear of Apple app developers doing the same, though I assume it'll have to happen at some point.
And finally, to answer the question of the OP, I highly doubt there will be any noticeable difference at the distance most of us hold a tablet. It's a little different for the iPhone; with a 3.5 inch screen you have to hold it a lot closer if you're reading text because it's that much smaller. Comparing smartphone display resolution to tablet display resolution is rather pointless as we hold them at different distances from our face depending upon the size of the display and the text / images on the screen.
Holding my TFP at its general 2-foot viewing distance, I'm hard pressed to make out any individual pixels, and my vision is 20/20. I won't be trading in my TFP for an iPad because of of difference in pixel density I may never even notice!
ickkii said:
I'm feeling somewhat disappointed on Asus's decision to move the transformer towards the direction the ipad is taking by making slight hardware changes and massively bumping up the display.
I remember when apple invented the 'retina display' buzzword for ips panels a few years ago - marketing them as having the most pixels your eyes can see from a holding distance. Now apple is keeping the tablet the same size and bumping up the pixel density 4 times with suspected plans of marketing that as being better. How? They've already stated more pixels would be redundant.
At this point the tablet to buy isn't looking like the ipad 3 or the tf700, lenovo is sweeping in with the ideapad k2 to offer more hardware changes (usb on the tablet, 1.7ghz t3, fingerprint scanner, possible keyboard dock) as well as a high def display.
What kind of change will these displays provide? Drastic?
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I personally think that for most people these super high resolutions on small screens are pretty pointless. Maybe it's because I'm 35 and don't have the same vision I did 15 years ago
All I know is I'm perfectly happy with 1920 x 1080 on my 70 inch TV
Of course you can... but who cares?
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pdanders said:
All I know is I'm perfectly happy with 1920 x 1080 on my 70 inch TV
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Think from what distance you look at your TV. And then think from what distance you look at your tablet. Compare the relative sizes of the devices in your field of view. I use 23 inch screen for movies but I look at it from 50cm - it's bigger then than typical cinema screen (I'm nearsighted so I like it that way).
pdanders said:
I personally think that for most people these super high resolutions on small screens are pretty pointless. Maybe it's because I'm 35 and don't have the same vision I did 15 years ago
All I know is I'm perfectly happy with 1920 x 1080 on my 70 inch TV
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Man you have the 70 lol? I was happy as hell when i got my 60" Samsung Smart TV a few months ago. Then they had to go and introduce the 70" & 80" Sharp LED's! Damn you Sharp hahaha!
I told my GF 60" is the biggest ill ever have to go. WRONG!
Wordlywisewiz said:
Cons
decreased battery life slight
slightly heavily decreased performance (compared to smaller displays)
more screen defects ( however you would never notice a dead pixel! being so small)
higher cost of the tablet most high resolution tablets will start at 599 including the iPad3
most people will not be able to tell the difference
Media in that format (2k) would fill your 32gbs so quickly! I think there is not even any 2K media (like cinema films) for end users available.
Less vivid colors/contrast ratio/refresh rate? (correct me if I am wrong)
Pro's
about Twice the amount of pixels! (4x the pixels in the case of the iPad3)
sharper text!
better looking movies if you can fit them on the tablet! You won't see that at "movie-distance"
Bragging rights?
Sent from my Transformer Prime TF201 using Tapatalk
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Corrected for you
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Man you have the 70 lol? I was happy as hell when i got my 60" Samsung Smart TV a few months ago. Then they had to go and introduce the 70" & 80" Sharp LED's! Damn you Sharp hahaha!
I told my GF 60" is the biggest ill ever have to go. WRONG!
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Now imagine if a TV of those size existed in the 1990s. It would weigh nearly a ton, resolution would be 640x480, and would probably cost about $3,999 dollars since anything over 36 inches was unheard of.
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The difference will be noticeable, but it's up to you whether you care enough to pay another 100 [insert currency here]. Was actually slightly disappointed with the display quality when viewing text on the TFP, but perhaps I'm just being ultra-picky. Can't be bothered to wait another 6 months at this point though.
I think so.
I looked at a report that the S3 actually has a lower screen brightness then the S1!
"The Galaxy S3 uses a 1280 X 720, PenTile AMOLED screen, which is higher resolution, but dimmer than the Galaxy S1 and Galaxy S2 screens, Soneira said. The culprit seems to be power management: in trying to get decent battery life with its huge 4.8-inch display, Samsung had to turn the brightness down.
Power consumption figures bear that out. Samsung cut maximum display power from 2.1 watts on the Galaxy S2 to 1.3 watts on the Galaxy S3, dropping maximum brightness from 289 candelas per square meter to 224. The lower power usage, however, lets the S3 get solid battery life even with the larger screen: running time with the display on increased from 4.4 hours on the Galaxy S2 to 5.6 hours on the S3."
Qoute from a website ^
is there anyway to actually make the screen more visable? Like brighter? Its really annoying have this great phone and My older, LG 2X P990 has a brighter screen!
Thanks guys! Jack -
While I can't help you make it brighter, it's probably worth considering that display lifetime is probably also an important trade-off made by Samsung.
Even at the existing brightness, there are already some people complaining about display "burn-in" etc.
I would predict that any further increase in brightness would greatly increase the problems of burn-in and wear-out.
(Reason being that perception of brightness isn't linear, i.e. doubling the display power wouldn't make it look anywhere near twice as bright, yet would cause a dramatic increase in pixel fatigue and reduction in life)
fasty said:
While I can't help you make it brighter, it's probably worth considering that display lifetime is probably also an important trade-off made by Samsung.
Even at the existing brightness, there are already some people complaining about display "burn-in" etc.
I would predict that any further increase in brightness would greatly increase the problems of burn-in and wear-out.
(Reason being that perception of brightness isn't linear, i.e. doubling the display power wouldn't make it look anywhere near twice as bright, yet would cause a dramatic increase in pixel fatigue and reduction in life)
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Ah i see :/ its just annoying having a phone not as bright as my older phone... ahh well :/
This may help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1791163
JackHanAnLG said:
I think so.
I looked at a report that the S3 actually has a lower screen brightness then the S1! ....
is there anyway to actually make the screen more visable? Like brighter? Its really annoying have this great phone and My older, LG 2X P990 has a brighter screen!
Thanks guys! Jack -
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What is really annoying, it is the hypochondria of the users. They are buying phone, they are happy with it, but then, they have the REPORT.
It may state that S3 is slower than nokia 1100 (if dropped out from a jet plane because S3 is more flat and will glide).
It may state that S2 is fir with tiny screen compared to iSomething (to iPad, to be precise).
Not to mention that it may state that the battery is crappy compared to the Han Solo's communicator he used in Star Wars.
Jack, please take my advice:
first, sell your crappy S3.
secondly, please READ the reports, DIGG forums, and please: choose the phone which will make you happy.
last but not least: BUY only this device which you'll want, do NOT listen to your mum.
Well, outdoors, especially in bright sunlight, the GS3 screen is in deed too dim.
Maximum brightness is around 330 cd which is far less than the best LCDs offer these days. Those LCDs are bordering on 600 cd which is a massive advantage. Due to this, my next phone will one sporting a top-notch LCD. AMOLED has fallen behind the curve IMO.
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What is really annoying, it is the hypochondria of the users. They are buying phone, they are happy with it, but then, they have the REPORT.
It may state that S3 is slower than nokia 1100 (if dropped out from a jet plane because S3 is more flat and will glide).
It may state that S2 is fir with tiny screen compared to iSomething (to iPad, to be precise).
Not to mention that it may state that the battery is crappy compared to the Han Solo's communicator he used in Star Wars.
Jack, please take my advice:
first, sell your crappy S3.
secondly, please READ the reports, DIGG forums, and please: choose the phone which will make you happy.
last but not least: BUY only this device which you'll want, do NOT listen to your mum.
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I wouldnt say it was crappy, i like it, its a beast, its just not as bright as i want it
Darkside Agent said:
This may help
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Thanks ill have a look right now!
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Thanks ill have a look right now!
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On maximum brightness the screen is more than enough really..
Just turn auto off and enjoy lovely colors, actual blacks and good brightness.
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Well, outdoors, especially in bright sunlight, the GS3 screen is in deed too dim.
Maximum brightness is around 330 cd which is far less than the best LCDs offer these days. Those LCDs are bordering on 600 cd which is a massive advantage. Due to this, my next phone will one sporting a top-notch LCD. AMOLED has fallen behind the curve IMO.
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OLED doesn't need 600 nits of brightness. In fact, I don't even think that OLED should be measured that way because LCD's use a backlight which means it will win any brightness test easily. Just look at this picture for example.
http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...q55UP-BG4GsiALEw4CgBA&ved=0CDMQ9QEwBg&dur=208
It shows that AMOLED can produce the same brightness as an LCD measuring about 100 less candela.
brand new S3 t999l here, perfect indoors, unusable in sunlight or overcast. For indoors use only, if no mod or fix to make the display brighter.
Hey guys I was thinking of upgrading the the galaxy s5, but specification wise, is it the same max brightness as the S3 ??
I mean, I really have a problem in the s3 being too dim even at maximum brightness when outdoors in the sun, so is the S5 specification wise, have the same max brightness as the s3 and face this problem?
I was just wondering what display settings does everyone use and how to get the best performance out of the display. If anyone can tell me all the things to turn on and off for getting there, it would be great.
Thanks
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I use the best settings possible, what's the point In having a good phone with the best display if you ain't gonna use it
Exactly. When you say best performance, what are you looking for? Higher synthetic benchmark scores to brag to your friends who also don't understand benchmarks, or the best looking display to actually USE the phone?
Do what makes sense for you. I keep mine on HD+ (720 pixels in the short direction) because my eyesight isn't great and I can't tell the difference. Samsung pushes the higher resolution because it looks good on paper (specsmanship), however I am doubtful that most people (even with good eyesight) can tell the difference between FHD (1080) and WQHD (1440) pm this size phone.
Other people don't matter, check for yourself. I would look at straight diagonal lines and text. If it looks jagged, then go to higher resolution. If not then try lower resolution.
There is a small battery gain from using lower resolution. You can see what Samsung thinks the battery gain is by going to the battery power saving screen and note the savings projected in the "apply" button at the bottom. Change the screen resolution and the projected savings in the apply button will change immediately. The change in projected savings between two modes presumably represents the difference in power consumption that Samsung estimates. For me it is rough ballpark 10 minute life saving from 1440 to 1080 and another 10 minute saving from 1080 to 720 (when checked with battery near full)
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I use the best settings possible, what's the point In having a good phone with the best display if you ain't gonna use it
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I agree with you. I believe that's what my original question was. What are the settings which will give me the best display performance?
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Exactly. When you say best performance, what are you looking for? Higher synthetic benchmark scores to brag to your friends who also don't understand benchmarks, or the best looking display to actually USE the phone?
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I was referring to display performance, which includes having the best visually appealing display settings. I do not care about any benchmark scores. I believe most people have stopped caring about that a while back.
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Do what makes sense for you. I keep mine on HD+ (720 pixels in the short direction) because my eyesight isn't great and I can't tell the difference. Samsung pushes the higher resolution because it looks good on paper (specsmanship), however I am doubtful that most people (even with good eyesight) can tell the difference between FHD (1080) and WQHD (1440) pm this size phone.
Other people don't matter, check for yourself. I would look at straight diagonal lines and text. If it looks jagged, then go to higher resolution. If not then try lower resolution.
There is a small battery gain from using lower resolution. You can see what Samsung thinks the battery gain is by going to the battery power saving screen and note the savings projected in the "apply" button at the bottom. Change the screen resolution and the projected savings in the apply button will change immediately. The change in projected savings between two modes presumably represents the difference in power consumption that Samsung estimates. For me it is rough ballpark 10 minute life saving from 1440 to 1080 and another 10 minute saving from 1080 to 720 (when checked with battery near full)
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Thanks. I do keep my resolution at WQHD at all times. I was wondering about all the other settings such as Settings -> Device Maintenance -> Performance Mode -> High Performance (I've heard this is needed to get the best display) and other things such as what screen mode looks the best and most saturated (Adaptive, AMOLED cinema, AMOLED photo, etc.) or if there are any other settings.
Guys what settings you keep in adaptive display?
The difference between HD and wqhd is easily noticeable, I have mine on mac settings and the screen is stunning
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I think that kernel developers should look at this:
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The screen actually works but still a little bit glitchy
wow with in fixes on how it transfers data to screen this will be amazing :good:
This is far away from possible on maybe devices. As stated by some kernel developpers, only a minor portion of poco f1 are able to bear 70 Hz.
It's not Possible,beryllium panels doesn't handle more than 65-70 Hz.
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wow with in fixes on how it transfers data to screen this will be amazing :good:
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No the display cant handle it. The guy who made that video has recompiled the kernel with 90hz in the device tree and because it cant handle it flickers and glitches
buy a oneplus 7 pro and problem solved.
You need to be happy to get any sort of overclock on such a low quality screen at all.
It helps that it's IPS but otherwise, the screen is basically not quick enough to accomodate that sort of bandwidth.
There also is a lot of variety between what poco devices can actually achieve, some screens hate 60+, others take 70 no problem even though they are NVT or tianma which proves that the quality control on these phones was very very very lax, or JUST enough to have 60Hz safely.
There's a chance you might have 75, but 90 is not possible, unless you have the luckiest of the luckiest display but I highly doubt it
It's not worth the decrease of the panel's lifespan.
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It's not Possible,beryllium panels doesn't handle more than 65-70 Hz.
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My poco f1 is on 71 hz how do 90hz
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You need to be happy to get any sort of overclock on such a low quality screen at all.
It helps that it's IPS but otherwise, the screen is basically not quick enough to accomodate that sort of bandwidth.
There also is a lot of variety between what poco devices can actually achieve, some screens hate 60+, others take 70 no problem even though they are NVT or tianma which proves that the quality control on these phones was very very very lax, or JUST enough to have 60Hz safely.
There's a chance you might have 75, but 90 is not possible, unless you have the luckiest of the luckiest display but I highly doubt it
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Even 72 isn't possible.
i have been using pixel 6 for 10 days now and i can say that camera quality is top class but in other area phone is below average. the sound quality from bluetooth is not up to the mark, Even the internet speed is not good(on 4G), i donn't think it supports carrier aggregation. the quality of the display is also average. What do you think guys?
Well, bluetooth is digital, so if you've got a problem with the quality of sound coming out your bluetooth speakers, then you should either look at the quality of the speakers or the limitations of bluetooth.
LTE internet speed looks good to me? Just hit 135 Mbps on a speed test, which I ran just because I was curious after what you said. Kind of shocked actually, I've never seen a phone speed test that high, and its certainly a lot more than I could ever need. What are you expecting to see for speed?
Display being average, I'd definitely have to attribute that to your personal choices. There are two pixel 6's to choose from and you picked the one that explicitly has the crappier display.
My LTE is the same as my old S9. I get 42 Mbps at home. We have a vacation home where our fiber is 30, and 30 is plenty to have YouTube TV streaming and two people on ZOOM calls. Don't over think the whole speed issue, for most of us it is inconsequential.
This is all purely opinion. I switched from a Pixel 3, and it's a fantastic upgrade. Either your expectations of a 600$ phone were too high, or you're just here trying to troll people into buying something else. Like 96carboard said, BT is digital and all dependent on the speaker on the other end, and the internet speed could have something to do with your carrier.
I'm extremely happy with this phone, the screen is fine, I really can't be bothered about refresh rates cos I don't game. The reviews seem to be so picky over triviality and my 4G speed is excellent
I'm in the same boat. I came from the OP6T McLaren and I prefer the lighter thinner feel of that phone. The camera in this Pixel 6 just blows the OP away and that's probably the only reason I am using it. Still looking for super thin light case to make this just as small as possible.
ikrn said:
i have been using pixel 6 for 10 days now and i can say that camera quality is top class but in other area phone is below average. the sound quality from bluetooth is not up to the mark, Even the internet speed is not good(on 4G), i donn't think it supports carrier aggregation. the quality of the display is also average. What do you think guys?
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Agreed. My speed was consistently better on OnePlus 7 pro as was reception. Modem on this thing sucks. I want to love this phone so bad but there's just too much wrong with it. I've now noticed that on dark mode when in apps like settings or play store, whatever has the generic dark background, my screen is darker on the right side. And every time the refresh rate switches from 90 to 60hz there's a noticable change in color hue.
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Agreed. My speed was consistently better on OnePlus 7 pro as was reception. Modem on this thing sucks. I want to love this phone so bad but there's just too much wrong with it. I've now noticed that on dark mode when in apps like settings or play store, whatever has the generic dark background, my screen is darker on the right side. And every time the refresh rate switches from 90 to 60hz there's a noticable change in color hue.
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You can force 90Hz on in the developer options.
starbiker99 said:
I'm in the same boat. I came from the OP6T McLaren and I prefer the lighter thinner feel of that phone. The camera in this Pixel 6 just blows the OP away and that's probably the only reason I am using it. Still looking for super thin light case to make this just as small as possible.
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The Google case adds next to nothing to the feel of the phone in the hand. I've held a couple black cases that offer better protection and also a clear case that offers better protection and by comparison the Google case just feels smaller.
I've been stuck in quarantine so I haven't tried the phone's modem in areas outside of my home and testing at home sucks because coverage has always sucked around me as there aren't any towers close by. I can say that the WiFi is better than on the LG G8X. It handles the hand-off between 2.4GHz to 5GHz and also mesh zones without issue (though I do drop WiFi calls during those transitions).
I do wish the display showed yellows and oranges differently. They seem kinda dull to me and I'm assuming it's what makes skin tones look occasionally off. Though maybe it's also a byproduct of using dark mode?
ikrn said:
i have been using pixel 6 for 10 days now and i can say that camera quality is top class but in other area phone is below average. the sound quality from bluetooth is not up to the mark, Even the internet speed is not good(on 4G), i donn't think it supports carrier aggregation. the quality of the display is also average. What do you think guys?
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Would be interesting to know which phone you came from, since the P6 is a budget/midrange product with some clear trade-offs (screen in particular), so are your expectations realistic? This is not a 1000 dollar Flagship phone.
So considering that the P6 has a Gorilla Glass Victus, 90hz OLED for a 599 bucks phone, "average" is, well, acceptable.
Morgrain said:
Would be interesting to know which phone you came from, since the P6 is a budget/midrange product with some clear trade-offs (screen in particular), so are your expectations realistic? This is not a 1000 dollar Flagship phone.
So considering that the P6 has a Gorilla Glass Victus, 90hz OLED for a 599 bucks phone, "average" is, well, acceptable.
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First of all, a "flag ship" is something very specific that has nothing at all to do with phones. Secondly, even if you do try to use this military term, it does not in any way imply the best or most advanced.
Third, these (p6/p6p) are most definitely extremely high priced and top end phones, nothing average about them.
The only part of what you said that I agree with is that the screen (on p6-nonP only) is not the very greatest. But that's a choice you make when you buy the smaller one.
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First of all, a "flag ship" is something very specific that has nothing at all to do with phones. Secondly, even if you do try to use this military term, it does not in any way imply the best or most advanced.
Third, these (p6/p6p) are most definitely extremely high priced and top end phones, nothing average about them.
The only part of what you said that I agree with is that the screen (on p6-nonP only) is not the very greatest. But that's a choice you make when you buy the smaller one.
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I do not quite see the need for your alleged know-it-all. Firstly, Flagship (no separation) is an established term to describe the most important product that an organization owns/produces. You might not realize it, but terms slash words can have several meanings. I know, it might be something new, but I'm sure you'll get the hang of it.
Therefore, secondly, yes, of course the most important product implies the best or most advanced. You are making confused claims.
For further studies (I can only suggest self-study at this point):
flagship noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com
Definition of flagship noun in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, picture, example sentences, grammar, usage notes, synonyms and more.
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Definition of flagship | Dictionary.com
Flagship definition, a ship carrying the flag officer or the commander of a fleet, squadron, or the like, and displaying the officer's flag. See more.
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For a further assessment, I suggest you open a channel to the Oxford Dictionary or Thesaurus immediately and have them rectify their vocabulary, since - apparently - you are the master of the English language.
Thirdly, if you consider a 599 $ phone (P6) to be extremely high-priced, then you seem to have slept for the last five years. Since Flagships start at 800 bananas, Super Flagships start at 1000 bananas and "Ultra" Flagships start at roughly 1300 $ bananas (using the jargon of Tech Reviewers here), the P6 can only be considered Midrange to higher Midrange. Every other assessment is unrealistic and defies reality, which I would not recommend.
Whether you like this development, or not, is another matter entirely. Reality doesn't change just because a single person wants it to. That takes a little more motivation.
opz187 said:
Agreed. My speed was consistently better on OnePlus 7 pro as was reception. Modem on this thing sucks. I want to love this phone so bad but there's just too much wrong with it. I've now noticed that on dark mode when in apps like settings or play store, whatever has the generic dark background, my screen is darker on the right side. And every time the refresh rate switches from 90 to 60hz there's a noticable change in color hue.
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As if flagship OnePlus phones didn't have various software/networking issues in the weeks following their launch or in some cases, to date unfixed.
It's baffling to me how easily people pass judgment and give up based on minor details unrelated to hardware.
I look at this as a mid-range device. It has good specifications for the price range. If I had wanted all the features, I would have went with the Pro.
Battery life is my only real complaint. Its not bad but it's not great either.
No trouble with my speed the phone camera is awesome build quality bid disappointed in as the black on the sides of the phone is starting to come off
Morgrain said:
Would be interesting to know which phone you came from, since the P6 is a budget/midrange product with some clear trade-offs (screen in particular), so are your expectations realistic? This is not a 1000 dollar Flagship phone.
So considering that the P6 has a Gorilla Glass Victus, 90hz OLED for a 599 bucks phone, "average" is, well, acceptable.
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Oneplus 7t pro
96carboard said:
Well, bluetooth is digital, so if you've got a problem with the quality of sound coming out your bluetooth speakers, then you should either look at the quality of the speakers or the limitations of bluetooth.
LTE internet speed looks good to me? Just hit 135 Mbps on a speed test, which I ran just because I was curious after what you said. Kind of shocked actually, I've never seen a phone speed test that high, and its certainly a lot more than I could ever need. What are you expecting to see for speed?
Display being average, I'd definitely have to attribute that to your personal choices. There are two pixel 6's to choose from and you picked the one that explicitly has the crappier display.
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I am using pixel buds and Bose qc 35 ii as my daily driver. The soung quality is average.
Incanity said:
This is all purely opinion. I switched from a Pixel 3, and it's a fantastic upgrade. Either your expectations of a 600$ phone were too high, or you're just here trying to troll people into buying something else. Like 96carboard said, BT is digital and all dependent on the speaker on the other end, and the internet speed could have something to do with your carrier.
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I was using op7t pro before.. the sound quality from bluetooth and the display on oneplus 7t pro is awesome.
starbiker99 said:
I'm in the same boat. I came from the OP6T McLaren and I prefer the lighter thinner feel of that phone. The camera in this Pixel 6 just blows the OP away and that's probably the only reason I am using it. Still looking for super thin light case to make this just as small as possible.
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Yes the disp
opz187 said:
Agreed. My speed was consistently better on OnePlus 7 pro as was reception. Modem on this thing sucks. I want to love this phone so bad but there's just too much wrong with it. I've now noticed that on dark mode when in apps like settings or play store, whatever has the generic dark background, my screen is darker on the right side. And every time the refresh rate switches from 90 to 60hz there's a noticable change in color hue.
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The only reason I am using pixel 6 is camera!
Morgrain said:
Would be interesting to know which phone you came from, since the P6 is a budget/midrange product with some clear trade-offs (screen in particular), so are your expectations realistic? This is not a 1000 dollar Flagship phone.
So considering that the P6 has a Gorilla Glass Victus, 90hz OLED for a 599 bucks phone, "average" is, well, acceptable.
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I was using oneplus 7t pro befor (90 hz quad hd display). It cost me same as pixel 6