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On Samsung's website, the specs say that the new Galaxy S II supports 2g/3g/HSPA+ AT&T bands, as reported by Engadget and phonedog as well. However, I've heard from different sources that Samsung has locked down American GSM bands to avoid those across the pond buying international phones rather than the always slow to release cell-provider branded phones (like the Fascinate or Captivate)
My question is are the American GSM bands locked on the new Galaxy S II or can I use the phone with AT&T? I desperately need a new phone, given the fact that my Aria holds less than 6 hours worth of charge without having 3g or wifi on. I'd rather not wait and go ahead and pre-order this phone if I can.
lmao i hope they dont, because ive ordered one, and am planning on using it on my att
Samsung would not advertise it as Quad-Band GSM on its own website if the frequencies we locked would they?
soraxd said:
lmao i hope they dont, because ive ordered one, and am planning on using it on my att
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Please let us know if this works!!
Not sure where I read it but I did hear that all the bands are unlocks. This message came from Samsung.
soraxd said:
lmao i hope they dont, because ive ordered one, and am planning on using it on my att
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Where did you order yours from, if you dont mind me asking.
Thanx
This has been a hot topic of conversation over the last month or so but finally we have confirmation of the Samsung Galaxy S II specs that remained to be clarified.
Having spoken to the UK Product Manager for the Samsung Galaxy S II, we can confirm that UK stock will ship with the following:
1. Samsung Dual Core Exynos CPU (not NVidia Tegra 2)
2. 3G frequencies are 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad band)
3. Display is Super AMOLED Plus
4. Box contents: Handset, battery, charger, USB cable, headset, Quick start guide.
If you have an outstanding pre-order with Clove for the SGS2, you will be receiving an email regarding this confirmation of spec within the next day or so and you will be given the chance to cancel the order if this is not the specification that you were hoping for. However, we hope that for the majority of you this will be good news and we look forward to shipping your order as soon as possible.
source: http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-uk-specs-confirmed-exynos-chip-quad-band-3g/
tublah said:
This has been a hot topic of conversation over the last month or so but finally we have confirmation of the Samsung Galaxy S II specs that remained to be clarified.
Having spoken to the UK Product Manager for the Samsung Galaxy S II, we can confirm that UK stock will ship with the following:
1. Samsung Dual Core Exynos CPU (not NVidia Tegra 2)
2. 3G frequencies are 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad band)
3. Display is Super AMOLED Plus
4. Box contents: Handset, battery, charger, USB cable, headset, Quick start guide.
If you have an outstanding pre-order with Clove for the SGS2, you will be receiving an email regarding this confirmation of spec within the next day or so and you will be given the chance to cancel the order if this is not the specification that you were hoping for. However, we hope that for the majority of you this will be good news and we look forward to shipping your order as soon as possible.
source: http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-uk-specs-confirmed-exynos-chip-quad-band-3g/
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Yup, that's where I saw it. Thx tublah. Q... Is there a tegra 2 version of SGS2..?
soraxd said:
lmao i hope they dont, because ive ordered one, and am planning on using it on my att
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Where did you order it from? when are you expecting it's arrival?
soraxd said:
lmao i hope they dont, because ive ordered one, and am planning on using it on my att
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same here
i guess i better do a screenshot of handtec website
tublah said:
This has been a hot topic of conversation over the last month or so but finally we have confirmation of the Samsung Galaxy S II specs that remained to be clarified.
Having spoken to the UK Product Manager for the Samsung Galaxy S II, we can confirm that UK stock will ship with the following:
1. Samsung Dual Core Exynos CPU (not NVidia Tegra 2)
2. 3G frequencies are 850/900/1900/2100 (Quad band)
3. Display is Super AMOLED Plus
4. Box contents: Handset, battery, charger, USB cable, headset, Quick start guide.
If you have an outstanding pre-order with Clove for the SGS2, you will be receiving an email regarding this confirmation of spec within the next day or so and you will be given the chance to cancel the order if this is not the specification that you were hoping for. However, we hope that for the majority of you this will be good news and we look forward to shipping your order as soon as possible.
source: http://blog.clove.co.uk/2011/04/14/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-uk-specs-confirmed-exynos-chip-quad-band-3g/
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That's compatable with US T-Mobile HSPA right? if I'm not mistaken.
wootek76 said:
That's compatable with US T-Mobile HSPA right? if I'm not mistaken.
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No sir, it won't work with T-Mobile except on Edge (2G). T-Mobile's 3G/"4G" uses the first half of the 1700 band. The i9100 doesn't support 1700 in the 3G freq.
Sorry! The G2X looks like a suitable alternative if you need a T-Mobile USA alternative to the GSII.
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On Samsung's website, the specs say that the new Galaxy S II supports 2g/3g/HSPA+ AT&T bands, as reported by Engadget and phonedog as well. However, I've heard from different sources that Samsung has locked down American GSM bands to avoid those across the pond buying international phones rather than the always slow to release cell-provider branded phones (like the Fascinate or Captivate)
My question is are the American GSM bands locked on the new Galaxy S II or can I use the phone with AT&T? I desperately need a new phone, given the fact that my Aria holds less than 6 hours worth of charge without having 3g or wifi on. I'd rather not wait and go ahead and pre-order this phone if I can.
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I have a real hard time believing this. Bands are hardware supported/unsupported. Sure, they can lock it via software somehow, but that'll easily be disbanded once custom ROMs come out.
Plus, my biggest grief with this "locked bands" claim is the fact that it'll make your phone completely useless with international travel. For instance, why would Samsung sell "unlocked versions" if the phone was unusable in the US? Doesn't make any sense to me, and probably means all these claims are false.
As I have already stated elsewhere expansys when asked on the phone said that the versions they had were dual band with euro freqs as sold. They had not been able to enable the 850/1900 in the menus. Many people here should be familiar with the tmo debacle with the G2X which was of course marketed on their own site as having the Quad band 3G but after launch saying it only support 850/1900 in hardware. This may or may not be true and they could be there and simply need enabling or to have the radios installed with a new radio update. At this time there is no AT&T 3G on that phone which is the bottom line for now.
When someone actually connects to AT&T 3G, that is when it is confirmed working, not before. I have yet to find such confirmation anywhere.
yeah i have to agree, i dont care what their website says, i'd bet a whole lot of money on the fact that this phone would not pick up ATT 3g bands right now if someone were to try their SIM in an SGS2.
that said, i dont think anyone has tried this yet. if it DID work, i'd pick one up tomorrow.
krabman said:
As I have already stated elsewhere expansys when asked on the phone said that the versions they had were dual band with euro freqs as sold. They had not been able to enable the 850/1900 in the menus. Many people here should be familiar with the tmo debacle with the G2X which was of course marketed on their own site as having the Quad band 3G but after launch saying it only support 850/1900 in hardware. This may or may not be true and they could be there and simply need enabling or to have the radios installed with a new radio update. At this time there is no AT&T 3G on that phone which is the bottom line for now.
When someone actually connects to AT&T 3G, that is when it is confirmed working, not before. I have yet to find such confirmation anywhere.
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Let's clarify: The G2X debacle was due to an error on T-Mobile's behalf, with an official clarification from them as such:
"The T-Mobile G2x fact sheet, attached [PDF link], contains accurate information. The T-Mobile website is incorrect and we're working to correct it. The G2x supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz for 2G/GPRS only, and supports 3G/4G UMTS/HSPA+ bands I and IV. The G2x does not support AT&T's 3G bands. This banding is hardware based."
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/27/t-mobile-g2x-lacks-quadband-hspa-shatters-dreams/
(And, let's keep in mind T-Mobile doesn't actually design/manufacture phones. On purpose or not, this was a screw-up on T-Mobile's website.)
Samsung's site clearly says that the Galaxy S2's hardware supports quad band UMTS. Even if it is carrier locked or something, the unlocked versions should not have this problem.
For sure, no problem waiting if you're choosing to play it safe. But, I still personally think this is a bunch of nonsense propagated by a few folks. Even the T-Mobile announcement above clarifies that the problem the inaccurate info caused was not from a software lock but by a lack of hardware support.
Guys, all this jiberish of unkocked/locked bands blah blah blah.
It has quadband it will work worldwide and AT&T and Verizon will have it by 3rd/11.
Cant say about T-Mobile. But they are bought by AT&T so eventually yes as it will be one big AT&T network anyway.
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Fellas, good news on UMTS quad band support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059089
cmd512 said:
Fellas, good news on UMTS quad band support: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1059089
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Don't say good news until someone has actually had it work...
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Don't say good news until someone has actually had it work...
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With all due respect, I can say just about anything I damn want short of the mod telling me otherwise. Are you a moderator?
Your claims in that thread are not even accurate. You continue to say that bands are selectable. I understand this, and never argued this point. Please stop for a minute and understanding what I as well as several other people are very happy about: All phones come with defaulted bands enabled or disabled... those I9100 users are showing that out of the box in automatic band selection mode, all 4 UMTS bands are ENABLED. Big difference and has nothing to do with the fact that you can go in and personally enabled whatever band you want.
Gents,
Looking at picking up a Redmi Note 3 Pro but I'm very confused on the frequencies it supports. Every website seems to say something different. I really require 1700/2100mHz for my provider.
From what I've read, certain variations of the phone do, while some don't. How can I tell which?
Much appreciated!
you need the Note 3 Pro Special Edition (aka Kate) which has a snapdragon 650. It's also known as the International edition but that may depend on the seller.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-3-Pro-5-5-Inch-FHD-3GB-32GB-Smartphone-371103.html
Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
BobSlob said:
Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
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Yes, MTK version only has differences between RAM and internal storage sizes (2GB/16GB and 3G/32GB) but the SD versions not only have the RAM/internal storage differences, there is the special/international edition which adds multiple bands.
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Is the snapdragon 650 the key to determining model? Lots of them on eBay with the 650, but are there different variants even within them?
Appreciate the help
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There are two versions of Snapdragon phones, kenzo and kate. Get the kate version, available at Geekbuying.
Link already provided in this thread.
BobSlob said:
Gents,
Looking at picking up a Redmi Note 3 Pro but I'm very confused on the frequencies it supports. Every website seems to say something different. I really require 1700/2100mHz for my provider.
From what I've read, certain variations of the phone do, while some don't. How can I tell which?
Much appreciated!
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Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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I'm referring to check the Band support of your phone provider, since if it definitely has Band 4 listed, then I presume you can use 3G HSPA+ when on Data or even better, the 4G LTE while on Data.
Unheardof said:
Actually before you buy which variant of the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro, make sure you know what bands your current
phone carrier supports. You mention you require 1700/2100MHz but does your provider support Band 4 (which runs on 1700/2100MHz) for Note 3 Pro Snapdragon variant. Make sure not to buy MediaTek variant since that does not have the frequencies you requested.
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I'm referring to check the Band support of your phone provider, since if it definitely has Band 4 listed, then I presume you can use 3G HSPA+ when on Data or even better, the 4G LTE while on Data.
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My carrier supports 1700/2100 for AWS, so that's the big one I need. I don't see it listed anywhere (1700 listed under LTE). I'm not sure if they're the same or not. I'm ready to pull the trigger, just wanna make sure it works =D
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Yes, MTK version only has differences between RAM and internal storage sizes (2GB/16GB and 3G/32GB) but the SD versions not only have the RAM/internal storage differences, there is the special/international edition which adds multiple bands.
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Thanks goofball... are you using one in Canada? (noticed your Ottawa tag). If so, with which provider?
BobSlob said:
Thanks goofball... are you using one in Canada? (noticed your Ottawa tag). If so, with which provider?
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No, I was about to pull the trigger on one (and still fighting with myself) but decided to wait until the Redmi Note 4 comes out. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 which is still a pretty good phone so I'm not in a huge rush.
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
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Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
henklbr said:
Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
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The document I linked shows what each CSC actually stands for.
You can link it in the first post if you want.
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
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This is brilliant. Thanks! Have been trying to find a complete, intelligible list for a few days now. Should have started at XDA of course ...
Small correction: XEH stands for Hungarian unlocked only, Vodafone, Telenor and T-Mobile all have their own CSC codes (VDH, PAN and TMH, respectively - PAN because Telenor used to be Pannon GSM Hungary).
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
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Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
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Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
Sent from my G8142
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Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
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Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
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Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
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That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
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That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
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Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
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Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
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Well actually, Samsung locked everyone out so it doesn't really matter which variant you have, both the N950U (carrier variants) and N950U1 (unlocked variants) have locked bootloaders.
All of them should work fine outside the US when roaming, wouldn't really recommend it if you live outside the US though.
Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
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Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
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That is correct. Chinese variant and Korean variants have the most storage options while the rest of the world is left with 64GB only.
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I purchased a SM9650 that I can't seem to figure out if it's config correctly for Verizon. I put my sim card in and it seems to be working correctly but when I put the IMEI in verizon's database it shows as not compatible. what bands does Verizon use. when I load the one menu it's connected on band 4 20mhz. just trying to get some info on this phone. I thought I was getting the SM-965U
stark21 said:
I purchased a SM9650 that I can't seem to figure out if it's config correctly for Verizon. I put my sim card in and it seems to be working correctly but when I put the IMEI in verizon's database it shows as not compatible. what bands does Verizon use. when I load the one menu it's connected on band 4 20mhz. just trying to get some info on this phone. I thought I was getting the SM-965U
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3G : 850 MHz, Band 0 (CDMA). 1900 MHz PCS, Band 1 (CDMA).
4G : 700 MHz Block C, Band 13 (LTE). 1900 MHz PCS, Band 1 (1xRTT/ EV-DO/ eHRPD). 1900 MHz PCS, Band 2 (LTE). 1700/ 2100 MHz AWS, Band 4 (LTE).
Verizon is also testing new LTE equipment in AWS-3 Band 66.
I'm betting you bought the Exynos variant. If possible switch to T-Mobile, they support Exynos equipped devices.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s9/help/exynos-s9-verizon-s-t3798174
is there a hidden menu to find out the processor that's in this version. going by the spec of model number it's the snapdragon but not 100 percent sure. also I can call and use data so far on verizon so I guess it's working. it has been going between band 2 and band 4 when I look at the one service menu.
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is there a hidden menu to find out the processor that's in this version. going by the spec of model number it's the snapdragon but not 100 percent sure. also I can call and use data so far on verizon so I guess it's working. it has been going between band 2 and band 4 when I look at the one service menu.
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Install the PhoneINFO app, run the app and check Hardware- Platform/Chip.
it's showing SDM845 as cpu and Qualcomm Adreno 630 as gpu
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it's showing SDM845 as cpu and Qualcomm Adreno 630 as gpu
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My bad, SM-G965F is the Exynos variant. You're phone works on Verizon as you've shared however if you need VoLTE or Wifi Calling it's not compatible.. Lots of discussion here as to the differences between Exynos and Snapdragon variants. Nice thing about your device is the bootloader is unlocked meaning you have the ability to install custom ROM's, something the US Snapdragon variants don't have.
ok thanks, I will have to read up on this particular phone to see what it's capable of doing.
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ok thanks, I will have to read up on this particular phone to see what it's capable of doing.
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What's the CSC Code on your device?
under phone info it shows active csc TTT
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under phone info it shows active csc TTT
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CSC - Trinidad Tobago
Great phone! If you just got it you may want to see if you have the latest software and security update. Open Settings, search Update then Download updates manually while connected to wifi.
says phone is up to date when I do the update software. out of curiosity what makes this a great phone in your opinion.
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says phone is up to date when I do the update software. out of curiosity what makes this a great phone in your opinion.
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Well, it's a Galaxy S9 Plus, arguably the best smartphone money can buy and the SM-G9650 is the top of the line. I've had mine (SM-G9650 - Snapdragon - Hong Kong) since it debuted in March and the upgrades over the S8+ are more significant than spec comparisons between the two models would indicate. It runs smoother and faster than my previous S8+ by far. IMHO you're fortunate you bought the International variant over the US device since you can flash the software and customize it's functions to your personal liking. Opinions vary between the Exynos and Snapdragon chipsets but based on what's been shared the Exynos equipped devices have more bugs, they're prone to overheating and they're gaming speeds lag behind Snapdragon chips. Also others running Exynos chips have had problems with Verizon connectivity and Samsung Pay. Not sure if this is your first Galaxy Smartphone but I'm guessing you're going to really like your device.
I have had other Galaxy phones but this is first one that is international version so will be learning what I can do with it.
Have a look at the spec shared in this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-difference-s9-dual-duos-vs-s9-t3774559/page2
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My bad, SM-G965F is the Exynos variant. You're phone works on Verizon as you've shared however if you need VoLTE or Wifi Calling it's not compatible.. Lots of discussion here as to the differences between Exynos and Snapdragon variants. Nice thing about your device is the bootloader is unlocked meaning you have the ability to install custom ROM's, something the US Snapdragon variants don't have.
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This is false. I am writing this in my SM-G9650 and it is currently on Verizon with volte working just fine. I don't think vowifi works as it needs special software but volte works just fine. It's not apparent as there is none of the VZW custom software that indicates it but I have full internet access while on the phone and if you dig into the low level network connection status stuff it clearly states that I have a volte connection.
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ok thanks, I will have to read up on this particular phone to see what it's capable of doing.
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You need to use a specific multi csc variant to get everything working correctly. The variant I've been using is the one for CHL or PGU. They both install the OWA CSC which is the one you want.
If you are feeling braver, download a vzw 965U firmware and flash only the CSC with the rest of the 9650 firmware. The 9650 firmware will work with the 965u CSC, and will definitely make sure everything works and is named correctly
ok I will take a look at what you mentioned.
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This is false. I am writing this in my SM-G9650 and it is currently on Verizon with volte working just fine. I don't think vowifi works as it needs special software but volte works just fine. It's not apparent as there is none of the VZW custom software that indicates it but I have full internet access while on the phone and if you dig into the low level network connection status stuff it clearly states that I have a volte connection.
You need to use a specific multi csc variant to get everything working correctly. The variant I've been using is the one for CHL or PGU. They both install the OWA CSC which is the one you want.
If you are feeling braver, download a vzw 965U firmware and flash only the CSC with the rest of the 9650 firmware. The 9650 firmware will work with the 965u CSC, and will definitely make sure everything works and is named correctly
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Does anyone have an authoritative link or source for the different S23 ultra regional model variants and their respective bandwidth frequencies such as for 4g and 5g?
Can't find this information for any including the USA variant eg which specific frequencies of 4g and 5g does the USA model support?
The chipset and x70 modem makes it possible for this phone to truly be a global phone but.....
asking the same as well, cant find these details.
Here's hoping that the band unlock methods for the s22's and s21's also work on the s23's.
jcsww said:
Here's hoping that the band unlock methods for the s22's and s21's also work on the s23's.
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I'm sure it will be the same to unlock the bands, no one will really know until they have one in hand.
Can you elaborate on these band unlock methods?
And could they unlock mmwave for example on the international variants so that 5g could work in US? And unlock international bands on US version so it could work everywhere else?
evangelionpunk said:
Can you elaborate on these band unlock methods?
And could they unlock mmwave for example on the international variants so that 5g could work in US? And unlock international bands on US version so it could work everywhere else?
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This is the thread you probably want to have a look at. This method also worked for the s21's.
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
What is this? This is a guide on how to enable all LTE and 5G bands on the US or Canadian S22 series phones by going through the service menu. This guide is mostly based on this S20U guide by mellojosh, but has been adapted for the S22U phone...
forum.xda-developers.com
jcsww said:
This is the thread you probably want to have a look at. This method also worked for the s21's.
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
What is this? This is a guide on how to enable all LTE and 5G bands on the US or Canadian S22 series phones by going through the service menu. This guide is mostly based on this S20U guide by mellojosh, but has been adapted for the S22U phone...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Interesting....
So basically you could enter the service menu and turn on all the extra bands?
In that case wouldn't the US version be the best one to have since it would have mmwave hardware baked in too? It should then work everywhere.
Though it sounds like you'll lose the function on os updates and resets?
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Interesting....
So basically you could enter the service menu and turn on all the extra bands?
In that case wouldn't the US version be the best one to have since it would have mmwave hardware baked in too? It should then work everywhere.
Though it sounds like you'll lose the function on os updates and resets?
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OS updates from Samsung are never fast. Doing so once every 2 to 3 months isn't so bad for the extra band support.
Samsung's modem software works well for the US and Canada because the hardware is the same and only the modem software separates the bands based on carrier/region. Due to the wide spread of mess across North America, US and Canadian models are always a good choice for potential band support. In some cases though, mixed ROM's can also bridge the support. In the S9 days, you could.jeep.the base.for.your region but flash the carrier side of the firmware to unlock band 71 on some overseas models. I don't know if this is still possible today but with all devices being very similar. I am hoping the hardware, including dual-SIM pins on the main board, will be there to enable through a firmware change or mod.
Do we know if the international dual sim variant has the same USA hardware based on s22/21/20?
Does it have mmwave baked in but just disabled by software?
I am still not clear what 5G bands are supported on the SM-S918BZKPEUB, nor if unlocking the bands through the service menu works. @UK S23, your deliveries are in place already, has anyone tried?
It seems as though the bands might only be disabled in software? If so, then it should be possible to enable whatever band you need. The only exception would be if a hardware component is needed or missing then it wouldn't be possible which likely wouldn't be the case for your 3g, 4g and 5g standard range. Maybe only 5g mmwave which is essentially only in US anyway.
If that's the case it sounds like US variant might be the best to get for global coverage barring lack of dual sim (though it does have physical+esim).
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It seems as though the bands might only be disabled in software? If so, then it should be possible to enable whatever band you need. The only exception would be if a hardware component is needed or missing then it wouldn't be possible which likely wouldn't be the case for your 3g, 4g and 5g standard range. Maybe only 5g mmwave which is essentially only in US anyway.
If that's the case it sounds like US variant might be the best to get for global coverage barring lack of dual sim (though it does have physical+esim).
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Samsung's band support is mostly software, at least when it comes to 4G and 5G. I have never bothered to change 2G and 3G bands because there is no use for them unless you are in a very rural area or roaming. This is why it is so easy to convert the North American models and why in the days of the S9+, you could get band 71 on international models with dual-SIM.
jcsww said:
Samsung's band support is mostly software, at least when it comes to 4G and 5G. I have never bothered to change 2G and 3G bands because there is no use for them unless you are in a very rural area or roaming. This is why it is so easy to convert the North American models and why in the days of the S9+, you could get band 71 on international models with dual-SIM.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't get mmwave bands on the international dual sim models right?
evangelionpunk said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't get mmwave bands on the international dual sim models right?
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I'm not sure when it comes to mmWave. You can enable it on the W for Canada even though the cell coverage and technologies used up there are probably never going to deploy it. Overseas, I have no idea.
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I'm not sure when it comes to mmWave. You can enable it on the W for Canada even though the cell coverage and technologies used up there are probably never going to deploy it. Overseas, I have no idea.
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I've read that the US and CA models are basically identical so that might explain it. It's also possible I suppose that in s23 since it uses x70 modem, which has native support built in, that all model variants might be able to do it but for software. Though we won't know for sure till someone from different region goes into their service menu and checks.
mmWave requires a specific antenna to function. This antenna used to cost like $50 but I'd be surprised if it's gone down much beyond $30 so manufacturers will still leave it out if it's not necessary.
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mmWave requires a specific antenna to function. This antenna used to cost like $50 but I'd be surprised if it's gone down much beyond $30 so manufacturers will still leave it out if it's not necessary.
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Thanks and that probably means it likely won't be in other region variants.
Personally, I'd just make a single phone that is globally universal and can be used everywhere. The massive scale should drop the component pricing considerably. Carrier exclusives and market restrictions if any needed in software only. But that's just me lol.
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Thanks and that probably means it likely won't be in other region variants.
Personally, I'd just make a single phone that is globally universal and can be used everywhere. The massive scale should drop the component pricing considerably. Carrier exclusives and market restrictions if any needed in software only. But that's just me lol.
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Yes, you would think they would do this, but Samsung has always customized difference models for different regions so it must not be that straightforward. I believe that regulatory bodies would require them to test and submit all the documentation for that extra antenna, for example. It also wouldn't surprise me if the mmWave equipment is outright banned in some regions either for whatever reason.
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Yes, you would think they would do this, but Samsung has always customized difference models for different regions so it must not be that straightforward. I believe that regulatory bodies would require them to test and submit all the documentation for that extra antenna, for example. It also wouldn't surprise me if the mmWave equipment is outright banned in some regions either for whatever reason.
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Yeah.
Are iphones globally all exactly the same now?
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Yeah.
Are iphones globally all exactly the same now?
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No. There are 5 different models of iPhone 14 Pro Max, for example, and each will have different band configurations.
That said, the NA models have the most complete bands of any device released so far this year and it was released last year with an older modem. They even have support for Dish Network's n70, a band exclusive to them worldwide, something Samsung didn't even choose to support on their NA variant this year despite having a contract with Dish for radio equipment supporting that band.
I actually think the NA iPhone 14 Pro models support every commercially available band worldwide but I don't really keep up on bands not used in the US.
iPhone 14 Pro Max Model Number A2651, A2893, A2894, A2896, A2895 Differences - TechWalls
The iPhone 14 Pro Max comes in 5 model numbers, which are A2651, A2893, A2894, A2896, and A2895. Let's check out their differences and all the part numbers.
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