About a month or so ago my watch just started to drain battery about 20% / hour doing nothing. No apps active on the battery bar. Then I reset it a few times and it came back with the usual battery drain, it could last the day. Then about a week ago it started again. I reset 6, 8 maybe 10 times now but the battery is draining so that I can only get about 2 hours of use. Any ideas about what to do? Throw it away and buy another $300 device like the Fossil gen 5? I simply can't afford it right now but if that's what it takes then I'll have to save up for a black Friday deal of some sort. Can I replace the battery, do you think it's that?
It seems that it's Wear OS or Google services but I can't be sure because it auto updates even on a reset. If it's end of life so be it. Just would like to know once and for all.
bobby janow said:
About a month or so ago my watch just started to drain battery about 20% / hour doing nothing. No apps active on the battery bar. Then I reset it a few times and it came back with the usual battery drain, it could last the day. Then about a week ago it started again. I reset 6, 8 maybe 10 times now but the battery is draining so that I can only get about 2 hours of use. Any ideas about what to do? Throw it away and buy another $300 device like the Fossil gen 5? I simply can't afford it right now but if that's what it takes then I'll have to save up for a black Friday deal of some sort. Can I replace the battery, do you think it's that?
It seems that it's Wear OS or Google services but I can't be sure because it auto updates even on a reset. If it's end of life so be it. Just would like to know once and for all.
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Do you really find it strange that your device broke down after 4 years? Well it can happen. It happened to me and to other people too.
Unfortunately nothing you can do then to consider other devices.
No-one is forcing you though to spend 300$ for a new smart watch.
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RASTAVIPER said:
Do you really find it strange that your device broke down after 4 years? Well it can happen. It happened to me and to other people too.
Unfortunately nothing you can do then to consider other devices.
No-one is forcing you though to spend 300$ for a new smart watch.
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Yeah I was afraid of that. But you're right naturally, it's over 4 years old and gave me a good run. But I figure if I'm going to spend $200 I might as well just go for the top of the line these days which I believe to be the Fossil. I'll research it some more, probably wait a few weeks and then pull the trigger.
If there are any suggestions I'm certainly open to them. I would like to be able to use GPay from the watch though. Fine community here, sorry to have to leave it.
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Yeah I was afraid of that. But you're right naturally, it's over 4 years old and gave me a good run. But I figure if I'm going to spend $200 I might as well just go for the top of the line these days which I believe to be the Fossil. I'll research it some more, probably wait a few weeks and then pull the trigger.
If there are any suggestions I'm certainly open to them. I would like to be able to use GPay from the watch though. Fine community here, sorry to have to leave it.
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I have more than one Moto 360 (not sport though), and batteries have gone bad almost overnight. I also suspect it's a software issue, although batteries do expire. TOO BAD there is not a battery replacement, as I love these watches. I'm considering the Samsung Active, 2nd gen, when it comes out shortly, but will wait for a price adjustment. Costco sells the 1st gen for about $189, which is also nice. They don't use the Wear OS though and have their own.
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I have more than one Moto 360 (not sport though), and batteries have gone bad almost overnight. I also suspect it's a software issue, although batteries do expire. TOO BAD there is not a battery replacement, as I love these watches. I'm considering the Samsung Active, 2nd gen, when it comes out shortly, but will wait for a price adjustment. Costco sells the 1st gen for about $189, which is also nice. They don't use the Wear OS though and have their own.
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I might be in the minority here but I like Wear OS generally. I did look at the Samsung but I'm not sure I want to give up some of the things on Wear. I also looked at the Fossil Gen 5 which looks amazing. Some on Reddit were saying they got a 25% off coupon but that is history now. I even called them to beg but the guy just was sorry I can't do it. Maybe BF or Cyber Monday. 3 months not horrible.
I too think it's software simply because it just dropped dead overnight. But seeing that that is what happens now I'm not too sure. Oh well it's still sitting here but I do believe it's deadsville.
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I might be in the minority here but I like Wear OS generally. I did look at the Samsung but I'm not sure I want to give up some of the things on Wear. I also looked at the Fossil Gen 5 which looks amazing. Some on Reddit were saying they got a 25% off coupon but that is history now. I even called them to beg but the guy just was sorry I can't do it. Maybe BF or Cyber Monday. 3 months not horrible.
I too think it's software simply because it just dropped dead overnight. But seeing that that is what happens now I'm not too sure. Oh well it's still sitting here but I do believe it's deadsville.
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Same here, prefer Wear OS, but might consider trying an alternate, if appealing enough. Re the software, I tried resetting one of my Motos, and had a VERY hard time, and almost could not connect. I read it was something to do with an interim Google update, but when I finally did, battery was not better, if not worse. I did not reset any of the others after that.
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Now that I think of it and read a little more, the Tizen OS might not be a bad idea, given what is thought to be the connection between Google software and the battery failure. It would eliminate that possibility. I don't have much of a complaint with Google, but don't necessarily want to hang my whole life on it.
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Same here, prefer Wear OS, but might consider trying an alternate, if appealing enough. Re the software, I tried resetting one of my Motos, and had a VERY hard time, and almost could not connect. I read it was something to do with an interim Google update, but when I finally did, battery was not better, if not worse. I did not reset any of the others after that.
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Now that I think of it and read a little more, the Tizen OS might not be a bad idea, given what is thought to be the connection between Google software and the battery failure. It would eliminate that possibility. I don't have much of a complaint with Google, but don't necessarily want to hang my whole life on it.
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I would like to use Google Pay from the watch. Will tizen do that too?
I believe so, although I use Samsung Pay
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I have more than one Moto 360 (not sport though), and batteries have gone bad almost overnight. I also suspect it's a software issue, although batteries do expire. TOO BAD there is not a battery replacement, as I love these watches. I'm considering the Samsung Active, 2nd gen, when it comes out shortly, but will wait for a price adjustment. Costco sells the 1st gen for about $189, which is also nice. They don't use the Wear OS though and have their own.
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Update to this OP. I put the watch out of commission, unpaired it from Wear OS and factory reset and put it on the shelf. I even uninstalled Wear OS from the phone. Then I saw an update for the app and I believe that carrier services has gotten some updates as well. So I recharged the watch, reinstalled everything and the watch is now working perfectly. I'm getting over a day of use with very little battery drain. So it seems this was software related and not hardware. It's been a few days now and my Moto 360 is back on my wrist. Crazy but pretty cool.
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Update to this OP. I put the watch out of commission, unpaired it from Wear OS and factory reset and put it on the shelf. I even uninstalled Wear OS from the phone. Then I saw an update for the app and I believe that carrier services has gotten some updates as well. So I recharged the watch, reinstalled everything and the watch is now working perfectly. I'm getting over a day of use with very little battery drain. So it seems this was software related and not hardware. It's been a few days now and my Moto 360 is back on my wrist. Crazy but pretty cool.
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Excellent! I have tried the same, with varying results, but hopeful. Still thinking about the upcoming Samsung Active 2, but sure have liked the Moto, and would prefer to stay with that if possible.
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Excellent! I have tried the same, with varying results, but hopeful. Still thinking about the upcoming Samsung Active 2, but sure have liked the Moto, and would prefer to stay with that if possible.
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Give it a shot this time. Try it as I did deleting everything from everywhere and then re-set it all up. Curious if that works for you too.
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Give it a shot this time. Try it as I did deleting everything from everywhere and then re-set it all up. Curious if that works for you too.
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I have more than one of these, having bought on eBay when they were discontinued. One is totally gone, did not respond to the makeover, and got extremely hot on the charger, showing nothing on the screen. I have given up on that one. A second one has fallen by the wayside, in spite of several resets. Now it goes through the boot loop without advancing. Yesterday it looked like it was going to work but it went blank 30 seconds off the charger, repeatedly, rebooting each time.
So I'm down to 3 remaining, and as you found, the battery life seems better, although I don't think it's exactly the battery. As soon as they're put on the charger, they're ready to go again. Since they seem to be dropping like flies, I'm not too optimistic, but we'll see.
I notice there's been another small update to Wear OS. Never know if that's 2 steps forward or 1 step back. I sure have liked this watch and think it's just about perfect for my needs. Can't understand why they abandoned the line.
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I have more than one of these, having bought on eBay when they were discontinued. One is totally gone, did not respond to the makeover, and got extremely hot on the charger, showing nothing on the screen. I have given up on that one. A second one has fallen by the wayside, in spite of several resets. Now it goes through the boot loop without advancing. Yesterday it looked like it was going to work but it went blank 30 seconds off the charger, repeatedly, rebooting each time.
So I'm down to 3 remaining, and as you found, the battery life seems better, although I don't think it's exactly the battery. As soon as they're put on the charger, they're ready to go again. Since they seem to be dropping like flies, I'm not too optimistic, but we'll see.
I notice there's been another small update to Wear OS. Never know if that's 2 steps forward or 1 step back. I sure have liked this watch and think it's just about perfect for my needs. Can't understand why they abandoned the line.
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Me either. I think Lenovo killed it if I recall. I usually hold down the power button when it does that and the reset then stops the boot loop. Mine also got very hot on the charger and it might still, I'll have to check. It was the Wear OS update that got me to give it another try. I had put the watch away, removed the charger from the desktop and was looking at another watch. But I refuse to pay $295 so I'll wait. I do want the latest if I'm going to buy again but I'll wait for a sale. But for now I got lucky. Off the charger for 4 hours and only down 10% whereas before the whole shebang would only last 3 hours before it shut down. I had reset about a dozen times to no avail and the last time it worked. Stubborn me but certainly persistent.
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Me either. I think Lenovo killed it if I recall. I usually hold down the power button when it does that and the reset then stops the boot loop. Mine also got very hot on the charger and it might still, I'll have to check. It was the Wear OS update that got me to give it another try. I had put the watch away, removed the charger from the desktop and was looking at another watch. But I refuse to pay $295 so I'll wait. I do want the latest if I'm going to buy again but I'll wait for a sale. But for now I got lucky. Off the charger for 4 hours and only down 10% whereas before the whole shebang would only last 3 hours before it shut down. I had reset about a dozen times to no avail and the last time it worked. Stubborn me but certainly persistent.
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I can see we definitely think alike. I do not give up easily and have had some success, but not all. You did get lucky, and hope yours continues.
I got a Samsung coupon with a phone purchase and am considering using it on the Samsung Active 2 when it comes out in a couple of weeks. If I didn't have the credit, I'd definitely consider the Active 1 which only came out earlier this year. Although if I'd bought the Active 1 and they came out with an updated version 6 months later, I would not be so happy. They look like the best options to me and the closest to our Moto 360 (but not Wear OS).
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I can see we definitely think alike. I do not give up easily and have had some success, but not all. You did get lucky, and hope yours continues.
I got a Samsung coupon with a phone purchase and am considering using it on the Samsung Active 2 when it comes out in a couple of weeks. If I didn't have the credit, I'd definitely consider the Active 1 which only came out earlier this year. Although if I'd bought the Active 1 and they came out with an updated version 6 months later, I would not be so happy. They look like the best options to me and the closest to our Moto 360 (but not Wear OS).
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Just looked up the Active 2. It looks really great. Steep price but with credit it should be well worth it. And it looks like a natural fit if you have the Samsung device. But you have until at least the 7th pre-order date and the 27th until it supposedly ships. Keep at the Moto for a little while longer. You'll know soon enough if they are ready for the trash (recycle) heap. I mean if it's dead, then it's dead. Mine suddenly crapped out which is why I couldn't believe it would go that fast. Usually they degrade slowly and noticeably. Good luck.. keep us posted.
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I bought two Nexus 10 when they were first released and I've scrapped one because the battery failed and a huge screen area went yellow and I was getting multiple annoying random reboots every day.
Now my second Nexus 10 is going the same way.
What a load of crap this tablet is, I'm not surprised Google is not updating it for no-one would buy it.
That's interesting....I have a few mates who have the Nexus 10 and none of them have had those problems. They have had theirs since they were released...Maybe you dropped them once?
You just might be an isolated incident. Another mate if mine has the N7 but the only issue is the charger port issue that many other people have.
I have a N4 and the only issue I have is that the camera stops working at times and to fix that I just restart the phone.
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That's interesting....I have a few mates who have the Nexus 10 and none of them have had those problems. They have had theirs since they were released...Maybe you dropped them once?
You just might be an isolated incident. Another mate if mine has the N7 but the only issue is the charger port issue that many other people have.
I have a N4 and the only issue I have is that the camera stops working at times and to fix that I just restart the phone.
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No misuse at all and another annoying bug is the way it deletes part of the pin number after a reboot so you have to re-do the pin number.
Gaugerer said:
Now my second Nexus 10 is going the same way.
What a load of crap this tablet is, I'm not surprised Google is not updating it for no-one would buy it.
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I am sorry to hear you are having troubles with both N10s. I would surely have the same frustrations were I you.
We have two N10s, his and hers, for about a year and half. They are used for several hours every day, because we are retired and have lots of time to be online or reading books. My wife's N10 runs Purity ROM and is rock solid for her word games and eBay, facebook, shopping, email and all the other stuff. Mine is rock solid for banking, bill pay, surfing and videos. It usually runs CM11, but could be temporarily running something else while playing around with ROMs. We charge our tablets every day, and try never to get below 50% before plugging in.
I do plan to buy at least one N9 when released, not out of need, but, instead, out of curiosity for an Android 3x4 screen format. Fun times ahead for us Nexus fans.
everybody screaming at me that i m trolling when i was saying about problems with this device few months ago
yellow screen
too many lemon batterys
hdmi problems
buzzing speakers
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I m still in waranty ... i m lazy to go in service with it but after i will repair it ( i hope ) or change it i will sell it and buy a sony . I m not buying a google device again .
nexus fun boys ... what can I say
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Don't forget nexus 10 is a two years old tablet but it was a gem in its own time. After 2 years we still don't have any tablets with a higher screen resolution than nexus 10. Which makes it perfect for media consumption. I think only galaxy tab s has a better screen nowadays.
It has had its own shortcommings but most of them are by rectified by software updates, like memory leaks or random reboots.
I have purity ROM on my nexus 10 and I have zero reboots or problems. Everything works like a charm after 2 years of heavy usage. The only thing that I envy now is a super amoled screen on my tablet.
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Don't forget nexus 10 is a two years old tablet but it was a gem in its own time. After 2 years we still don't have any tablets with a higher screen resolution than nexus 10. Which makes it perfect for media consumption. I think only galaxy tab s has a better screen nowadays.
It has had its own shortcommings but most of them are by rectified by software updates, like memory leaks or random reboots.
I have purity ROM on my nexus 10 and I have zero reboots or problems. Everything works like a charm after 2 years of heavy usage. The only thing that I envy now is a super amoled screen on my tablet.
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Software updates have not stopped random reboots on my two Nexus 10 and I still suffer from system freezes and sometimes with a loud horrible noise from the speaker and I need to do a hard reset to stop it. So bad.
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Software updates have not stopped random reboots on my two Nexus 10 and I still suffer from system freezes and sometimes with a loud horrible noise from the speaker and I need to do a hard reset to stop it. So bad.
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Try to install Purity ROM on them :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2336101
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I bought two Nexus 10 when they were first released and I've scrapped one because the battery failed and a huge screen area went yellow and I was getting multiple annoying random reboots every day.
Now my second Nexus 10 is going the same way.
What a load of crap this tablet is, I'm not surprised Google is not updating it for no-one would buy it.
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I agree, the Nexus Tablet line was literally one of the biggest POS. I owned a Nexus 7 tablet for about six months and never dropped it or anything. The problem started out with ghosting/ghost input touches then later on progressed to half the touch screen not working at all... Although I initially loved it literally became one the biggest let downs ever...
On top of this, I had also read many articles on XDA and elsewhere of people with the same problem trying to send their tablet's in to ASUS for the warranty and they basically just sent the tablets back to them as is with a software upgrade, which didn't help at all since it was a hardware problem.
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I bought two Nexus 10 when they were first released and I've scrapped one because the battery failed and a huge screen area went yellow and I was getting multiple annoying random reboots every day.
Now my second Nexus 10 is going the same way.
What a load of crap this tablet is, I'm not surprised Google is not updating it for no-one would buy it.
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Mine had worked flawlessly since the week it was released.
I got mine when they released the tablet and I've never had one problem with it.
I got mine first month of release and it was great for about a year. It's still good now but my siblings abused it so now the battery drains quick (used to last all day and some of the next now I'm lucky if it reaches the end of the day) and speakers are chipping paint.
Other than that there no issues though and those are pretty much our fault. The battery problem could be from not using official charger or just charging all night
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I bought my shortly after release and have not experienced any problems with it. I have almost exclusively been using the Franco kernel with AOKP. I use it every day in place of my laptop. I can watch movies, youtube, internet, social media, etc. all day on a single charge.
I bought mine around feb/mar 2013.
It's a piece of crap.
Yellow/brownish tint on the screen that is getting bigger as we speak, battery shutdown at 30% (workarounds exist!), overheating, slow response, slow R/W speeds, etc. I have to do a factory reset pretty much every month.
On top of that: Gergle being a b*tch about it because they've deactivated my account (inactivity). Really funny guys.
I don't know what to do.
I guess I'll throw it away, as soon as I have something new. I'll never buy anything touched by Samsung again. No phone, tablet, TV, you name it. The only thing they're good as is NAND.
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I bought mine around feb/mar 2013.
It's a piece of crap.
Yellow/brownish tint on the screen that is getting bigger as we speak, battery shutdown at 30% (workarounds exist!), overheating, slow response, slow R/W speeds, etc. I have to do a factory reset pretty much every month.
On top of that: Gergle being a b*tch about it because they've deactivated my account (inactivity). Really funny guys.
I don't know what to do.
I guess I'll throw it away, as soon as I have something new. I'll never buy anything touched by Samsung again. No phone, tablet, TV, you name it. The only thing they're good as is NAND.
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Can you please tell me a workaround for 30% battery shutdown ? i have the same problem .. step by step battery die more faster ... first at 4%, 8% 10% and now 30%...
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Can you please tell me a workaround for 30% battery shutdown ? i have the same problem .. step by step battery die more faster ... first at 4%, 8% 10% and now 30%...
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The problem is: I force the system NOT to shutdown. The battery stays at 0%, but the device keeps running.
This is dangerous. When the CPU ramps up and the voltage is too low it'll cause instability, which you can see by the backlight flickering, the speakers making weird noises, all that bad stuff.
I am not sure how this affects the battery (or the device) physically, since Li-Ion is not very happy when it's "too" discharged. But it'll wear out the battery even faster, I fear. (This is unfunded. I have not enough knowledge about electronics that advanced. But I've read it somewhere. :silly
But, that out of the way: There's an xposed module. I DO NOT recommend using it. It's called DisableCriticalBatteryShutdown, by the user zst123.
You WILL run into fc's of the systemui when plugging the device back in. But the process should restart by itself.
There's a thread on XDA. AGAIN, I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING THIS MODULE.
I got my Nexus 10 shortly after they were released, and though I love it because it's screen is gorgeous and it has front-facing speakers, it is really buggy, and has been since day one.
It freezes and restarts on me probably daily, and always has since it was brand new. In the early days it always happened while using Chrome, and at the time I remember reading that it was a Chrome-specific issue, so I just switched to Firefox in hopes of a better experience.
It was better, for the most part, but eventually it started freezing at other times as well. I still like the tablet, but it definitely has never been a great performer.
I got my Nexus 10 at release, after 1.5 months of Google not shipping it, losing it, telling me that it was coming, etc... Worst customer experience I ever had. I was on the phone with them daily.
When I finally got it it worked fine for a little while but as I put more and more on it and actually tried to use it to stream video, I would get random reboots, freezing, etc...
I've tried relentlessly to talk my wife into letting me unlock it and put a custom ROM on it hoping it would fix things but she would never let me. Now that it's almost two years old, and I barely use it do to all the reboots, etc..., she might finally let me unlock it.
I was really looking forward to getting this tablet when they announced it but with all the problems, for me it pretty much became a $500 paperweight. I use my GS4 so much more than I every used this tablet, even when I'm home.
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The problem is: I force the system NOT to shutdown. The battery stays at 0%, but the device keeps running.
This is dangerous. When the CPU ramps up and the voltage is too low it'll cause instability, which you can see by the backlight flickering, the speakers making weird noises, all that bad stuff.
I am not sure how this affects the battery (or the device) physically, since Li-Ion is not very happy when it's "too" discharged. But it'll wear out the battery even faster, I fear. (This is unfunded. I have not enough knowledge about electronics that advanced. But I've read it somewhere. :silly
But, that out of the way: There's an xposed module. I DO NOT recommend using it. It's called DisableCriticalBatteryShutdown, by the user zst123.
You WILL run into fc's of the systemui when plugging the device back in. But the process should restart by itself.
There's a thread on XDA. AGAIN, I DO NOT RECOMMEND USING THIS MODULE.
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I have 2 Nex10's. Both bought at launch. One is stable as a rock (thank god it's the wife's or else) but mine is a bit of a dud. Instabilities and crashes since day one.
Not a day goes by that I don't have to do the 3 finger salute to restart because it has frozen solid.
Tried factory resetting, flashed factory images whenever a new one was around and tried different kernels. No change whatsoever.
I believe Samsung's soc is the culprit here, which was also the issue with the chrome chrashes in the early days (GPU drivers that fixed the issue where delayed by Samsung, which was silly as it's a stock Mali GPU).
Never mind the USB connectivity issues that only Samsung devices do. I had no problem connecting any of my other tablets and phones (Nexus 7, 4, 5, Xperia Z, various HTCs, even Nokia Lumias) to my PC. The Nex10? No dice. I had to manually remove any and all USB drivers, do 3 rain dances and pray to the lord of shadows before I got it to work.
I want to take advantage of being able to upgrade my DNA at no cost to me, so I need to do that by the end of this year. The company is switching to employee purchase of phones starting next year. I'm on Verizon. Looking for recommendations from those that have switched, or are contemplating a switch soon. I've primarily been looking at the Turbo, LG G3, and One M8. I've been on HTC devices, so am comfortable/familiar with Sense, and currently running a One based ROM on my DNA. I'm also fond of the wireless charging options, but don't know if a lack of it is enough to rule a particular phone out. Being able to root is a plus. Also leaning to a replaceable battery being a plus as well. Wife recently picked up a Note 4. I'll look at it some more, but that seems almost too big.
Is anyone aware of any new devices due out this month? If not, what is your favorite option today and why?
Thanks!
I just got the Note 4 and love it!!
Also came from the DNA and I can tell you, you'll be very pleased with the battery life!!
I was also considering the new Nexus device but since it isn't on VZW yet and I didn't want to wait with my DNA screen shattered I went with the Note 4 and I'm definitely not disappointed.
The Droid Turbo was released not too long ago, and I'm really leaning towards it for my contract upgrade in a couple of weeks. It's still an internal battery unfortunately, but what caught my attention was it having nearly twice the capacity of the DNA. Since I have to charge my DNA halfway through the day, I'd be more than satisfied with the Turbo's battery life. Plus, it has some beefy specs as well. Camera has been reported to have some trouble with delay, but that might be corrected in a software update.
I did a little more reading last night and am starting to lean towards the LG G3. A little smaller than the Note 4 which is a good thing. Replaceable battery, rootable, and with a $10 hack can be changed to Qi wireless charging. I need to go spend some hands on time with it in the store. I've considered the Turbo as well, but with the reported camera issues, and some reporting earpiece volume issues, I just find myself questioning Motorola's product testing if they send these issues out with a hope to fix them later in a software update.
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I just got the Note 4 and love it!!
Also came from the DNA and I can tell you, you'll be very pleased with the battery life!!
I was also considering the new Nexus device but since it isn't on VZW yet and I didn't want to wait with my DNA screen shattered I went with the Note 4 and I'm definitely not disappointed.
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Hmm, I'm now thinking about the Note 4 as well due to its camera features and the S-pen. So, when you say pleased with the battery life...how pleased are we talking? I guess getting through the day wouldn't be nearly as much a problem as it is sometimes with the DNA?
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Hmm, I'm now thinking about the Note 4 as well due to its camera features and the S-pen. So, when you say pleased with the battery life...how pleased are we talking? I guess getting through the day wouldn't be nearly as much a problem as it is sometimes with the DNA?
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I don't know about you but toward the end of my 2 years on the DNA I'd have to plug my phone in after about 5-6hrs of moderate use or it was flat dead!
So far with the Note 4 I've actually managed 2 full days on one charge a couple times.. Keeping in mind it's a new phone so I'm playing on it a lot!
Also the fast charge is awesome! I have had it go from 50% to a full charge in about 15 minutes on the charger! (that's only using the included "adaptive fast charger" from Samsung)
The S-pen is cool! I felt like it might be one of those things that lost its "cool factor" once I played with it enough but I keep finding new useful reasons pull it out.. Easily screenshoting and cropping an Instagram post using the Screen Write function for example.
Or more obvious things like quickly jotting down a number or reminder. Which are a lot more useful and easy than I had though they would be.
The chances of getting a fully functional ROOT seem far out if it ever happens.. So that's a bit of a downside. But I can say this is the first phone I've had that I wasn't just dying to root. I honestly have very little reason to root it other than getting Lollipop before VZW and Samsung get it on the update manager.
The phone is big! I will say that.. Probably one of the only things I've had issues with is one handed typing. But I'm getting use to it. It can be very difficult stretching that thumb up to reach things with one hand but I guess that's the price we pay for a large screen. Which is a beautiful display by the way... Both cameras rock too! It's packed with fx, filters and neat camera features that are a lot of fun.
Anyway I hope you are happy with whatever you get! I did talk to a guy over the weekend who has LG G3 and he told me he "hates it" although he couldn't really tell me why.. Haha I haven't played with one but they seem pretty comparable
By the way I thought I'd share that when I got home and started typing this my battery was at 56% (after a full day of pretty heavy use) and in the time it's taken me to type this up (on the phone via tapatalk) while plugged into the fast charger I'm up to 72%
Just thought I'd share an update, in case the op might be still deciding.
I opted for the Note 4. Got it in the mail yesterday, and so far I'm very impressed! It's not as hard to handle as I thought it'd be due to its size. I have yet to give the battery a good test, gotta break it in and actually do a near full run-down, since I had it plugged in most of the day yesterday. But this display is absolutely gorgeous! Don't think I'll be using the s-pen much, but who knows, maybe I'll find more use for it further down the road. I also enjoy using the finger print scanner; I find it quicker to unlock. At times it's frustrating that it doesn't work, but that's because I'm not being precise enough.
Thought I'd share my first impressions. Thanks for the input starscream!
Guess I should've come back to update this. I wound up getting the LG G3 a week ago. Already rooted and installed Skydragon ROM and love it. I also purchased the sticker for the battery door that changes it from NFC only to NFC plus wireless charging. Battery life has been great, and I like the knock knock option for turning on the screen. Transition from my DNA to the G3 has been easy.
Appreciate the suggestions and feedback from everyone!
I work 12 hour shifts on my feet, so even on my slower days I am pretty comfortably at my goal of 10k steps by mid afternoon and usually end the day with 15-18k. the last two days however I struggled to hit 10k by the end of my shift. I normally come home and throw my 360 sport on the charger and switch to my Huawei watch; yesterday I noticed that my step counting returned to normal after switching watches and then today I didn't even get to 8k on a day where I feel like I should have been closer to 15k. the only thing I can think that charged was my 360 got updated to 1.5. has anyone else experienced something similar? FYIW I'm using Google fit, not moto body.
I have also noticed a dramatic reduction, I am using fit as well. Perhaps it would be interesting to compare with moto body, when I used that before, the results were always similar give or take a hundred or so steps.
day 3 at work, 9 hours in and haven't cracked 5k. should probably be around 8-9 conservatively right now. gonna switch back to the sw3 tomorrow and see how it goes
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I work 12 hour shifts on my feet, so even on my slower days I am pretty comfortably at my goal of 10k steps by mid afternoon and usually end the day with 15-18k. the last two days however I struggled to hit 10k by the end of my shift. I normally come home and throw my 360 sport on the charger and switch to my Huawei watch; yesterday I noticed that my step counting returned to normal after switching watches and then today I didn't even get to 8k on a day where I feel like I should have been closer to 15k. the only thing I can think that charged was my 360 got updated to 1.5. has anyone else experienced something similar? FYIW I'm using Google fit, not moto body.
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I'm glad I'm not the only one! My step counts have DRASTICALLY decreased. Today we' took the dog for a walk, walked all over at a car show, cleaned the house, and I'm at 1,200 steps??!? My wife's fitbit is registering 6,500. Grrrr!
there are a few people having the issue on the Motorola forum too, but no fix. it seems to be OK when you're doing an activity, like when I'm very active it's fine, but the small things don't get counted. for example, I wear it to sleep and wake up with 0 steps, even though I get up to pee once or twice during the night.
hey guys,
My wife has the 360 2nd as well. She was complaining about this as well so I came here to look to see if anyone else is having the same problem, and we indeed are...
What can we do? Is there way to rollback the update?
She has a fitbit, and wore both on the same arm today and one shows the accurate 7-8K steps, where google fit has about 5300 and moto app had like 2k.
Any ideas? Rollback until 2.0 is the only thing I can think of. Not sure how to do i though.
one of the guys on the moto forum said he talked to moto cust service and they just rma'd the watch
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one of the guys on the moto forum said he talked to moto cust service and they just rma'd the watch
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Sucks to be him. I had to rma my initial 360 gen 2 and it took me 2 and a half months to get it back.
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I had the same issue, after the latest update. I decided to check what Androids treatment of the Body App was and whether it was setup to ignore optimisations like the Android Wear app. It wasn't, so checked it and the step count is now back to before the update. Strangely my battery life has increased also.
Settings --> Apps --> Menu --> Configure Apps --> Ignore optimisations --> Moto body needs to be checked.
This was carried out on a stock LG G4
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I had the same issue, after the latest update. I decided to check what Androids treatment of the Body App was and whether it was setup to ignore optimisations like the Android Wear app. It wasn't, so checked it and the step count is now back to before the update. Strangely my battery life has increased also.
Settings --> Apps --> Menu --> Configure Apps --> Ignore optimisations --> Moto body needs to be checked.
This was carried out on a stock LG G4
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interesting, but I've never had body installed
so I went as far as wearing two watches on Friday, my 360 sport and sw3. I paired my 360 with my Nexus 7 and set fit to a different account so they would be completely different. the Sony counted just over 19,500 steps, whereas the 360 finished the day just shy of 13k. armed with hard numbers I called moto yesterday. tier 2 said I could send it in for repair but couldn't tell me what they would repair since it seems related to software, or I could pay $25 for a replacement. tier 3 is going to call me tomorrow.
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so I went as far as wearing two watches on Friday, my 360 sport and sw3. I paired my 360 with my Nexus 7 and set fit to a different account so they would be completely different. the Sony counted just over 19,500 steps, whereas the 360 finished the day just shy of 13k. armed with hard numbers I called moto yesterday. tier 2 said I could send it in for repair but couldn't tell me what they would repair since it seems related to software, or I could pay $25 for a replacement. tier 3 is going to call me tomorrow.
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Don't send it in.
It's definitely a software problem. I work 8hrs/day (sometimes 12) and my job has me constantly moving around. I used to get between 14k and 30k steps per day. Now I'm getting 10k-12k. Same watch too.
There's nothing wrong with the hardware. They did something to the software, or they nerfed the way that the motion sensor counts steps. I'm wondering if they nerfed it to try and reduce inaccuracies caused by simply moving your wrist. (In other words, counting steps only, instead of counting wrist movements as steps). I'm not sure though. If this is the case, then it isn't working well.
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Moto worked with me a bit on this and I thought we were getting somewhere, but then kind of our of the blue they called to say they were closing the ticket but it works be addressed in a future update. in the meantime I went back to my sw3, which had been flawless. has this issue been fixed by chance? id love to use the 360 again
It is with a sad and heavy heart that I must state that my G3 died tonight while I was using it. It just shut off unexpectedly while it was charging. This was the first time this has ever happened. I can get it to turn on briefly, and then it shuts off again but there are also times where it just doesn't respond.
If I remove the battery and plug it into the charger, usually the battery with a question mark would show up to state the battery was missing. It won't even do that. That to me signals it has finally died. I'm going to miss this phone. Funny how it died the month that my 2-year-contract was up.
I'm looking at probably the Moto-Z Play Droid. I used to like Motorola products. This one has expandable storage, which is great. Hate that it doesn't have a removable battery though. But, it will bring down my monthly fees by about $3. But it sucks because my bill would have dropped $20 a month since the G3 was off contract.
I want to thank everyone who helped me through the past two years with everything here. That is especially @bweN diorD and @roirraW "edor" ehT.
Farewell fellow G3 users! We might meet up again some day.
Sorry to hear about the catastrophic failure! Take care, good luck, and hope to see you around.
happened to me also but plugging the cable while holding up button after reinserting battery got me into download mode but there was nothing on the screen same like you. after that i flashed 10b tot and it is working again. you can give it a try.
That's horrible to hear, I have been reading your and the road warrior posts as I am new to the LG G3 and your are a helpful person!!
I got my G3 off a friend as it was hard to find a non K model on swappa. I came from the horribly locked down CID 11 GS5.
Thanks for the posts you left and the responses you gave me in my short time getting acquired!
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Farewell fellow G3 users! We might meet up again some day.
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My condolences on your loss :angel:
If you're going to sell it please let us know. If it's not repairable it can parted out
& Good luck with your new gear. Hopefully the dev community is strong for whatever you decide to get :good:
It was a hard decision between the Galaxy S7 and the Moto Z. Moto Z pulled me over because it was pretty close to pure stock Android. But four things pushed me the S7:
Moto Z has USB-C, so that means I have to get all new charging cables for the car, etc.
No headphone jack. Sorry, this is a biggie. Yes, the Moto Z comes with a USB-C adapter to use headphones, but nope. Plus, my car doesn't have Blue Tooth, so I need the headphone jack.
What was a selling point was a negative for me: the add-on. Expensive, limited to the Moto Z, and stuff I really didn't need. Plus, even though they promised it would work with later models, we all know how that goes.
One more was the camera. Comparisons between the S7 and the Moto Z were no contest. The S7 takes WAY better pictures.
Of course, when I got to the store, found out I got a free Samsung VR Gear from Oculus! Awesome! Didn't even know that would happen.
As for my G3, it's toast. It just won't start up at all, so it's definitely a hardware failure. I can't even get it into download mode to try and flash 10b back on it. So, the phone has died.
It was a fun two years that I was here. Learned a lot and will miss a lot of you, but many of you have also moved on as well.
I'll lurk around still and help those who are seeking assistance with their G3s.
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happened to me also but plugging the cable while holding up button after reinserting battery got me into download mode but there was nothing on the screen same like you. after that i flashed 10b tot and it is working again. you can give it a try.
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Yeah, I tried this. It goes into DL mode but after 30 seconds, it shuts down before I can do anything, so there is definitely a hardware failure going on. I've reseated all the connectors on the motherboard and that didn't help.
The phone is toast. Loving my S7 though right now and the free Samsung Gear VR I got with it, along with the $10/month monthly payment with no trade-in option they had over over this past weekend. That came along at the right time! :laugh:
Take care fellow G3 users. May your phone last longer than mine (about 2 years). I loved the G3 and what it offered. I was even happy with it on stock.
I won't be doing anything with my S7 either other than disable some bloat (which there really isn't that much on here like the G3 has). Looks like there is a Nougat beta going on, but I'm going to stay away from that after the nasty experience I had with the 49A OTA. Might be that it didn't cause my G3 to fail, but it sure was quite a coincidence!
Try a new battery. I had a battery go bad. It's a cheap fix.
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Try a new battery. I had a battery go bad. It's a cheap fix.
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Not sure it's the battery and I've already replaced the phone. I might take it into the battery store and see if they'll let me test it with a new battery before I purchase one. Would be interesting to see if it works or not. I did try to flash it back to 10g and it got interrupted in the middle of it, so it's probably in BULK mode and right now, I don't feel like taking it apart to expose the connectors to "short" it out. Did it once, but now that I have an S7, not sure if I want to mess with it right now. But, I'll hold onto it until I'm ready to try a new battery in it.
I had a problem with my phone 8 months back . I went on craigslist and bought another used. I was lucky it had not taken an update. I rooted it without having to go back and tot it. . even better I took the battery out and put it in my old one confirming the battery was bad. now I have a backup and another battery was less then 10 bucks. hope it's your battery. I don't recall the symptoms just it wouldn't boot up full.
My experience (2 phones - mine & wife's) was that a dying batter swells up and can cause collateral damage to the phone. This happened first on my phone after about 18 months; I could see a gap where the screen was pushed up away from the bezel. At the same time a 5mm or so strip at the top of the screen became unresponsive to touch. New batteries are (were?) only $15 from LG. That fixed the bulge problem, but the touch problem remained. I got a used phone off FleaBay (was in excellent condition) for a bit over $100. About 3-4 months later, my wife's phone started to show the same bulge in the screen. New battery solved the problem; fortunately no other damage. Her phone is a bit newer than mine, so the failure was at about the same point in the life. Admittedly we're hard on batteries because we routinely stick the phones on the wireless charging pad overnight, and they tend to stay warm.
My old phone has been relegated to Pandora player duty. I don't see any thing in a newer phone that I need, and few have wireless charging and/or replaceable batteries. I'll probably keep swapping in new batteries every 12-18 months and keep them going as long as possible.
I have been very happy with my G3 over the past two years. My GF and I each have one, so we are compatible for batteries and charging, etc.
I have recently been wanting something newer and different, but without a lot of justification.
I was looking at the G6 from Verizon, $480 on plan, which is nice. But, that would have forced me off my OG Unlimited plan, which would then cost me at least $20 more a month.
I decided to try the HTC U11, since it is bootloader unlockable and they swear that the Unlocked version also works on Verizon CDMA. F'n better work.
G6 might have better screen. U11 has better camera and 2x storage @ 64GB. Hope I don't miss swappable batteries.
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I have been very happy with my G3 over the past two years. My GF and I each have one, so we are compatible for batteries and charging, etc.
I have recently been wanting something newer and different, but without a lot of justification.
I was looking at the G6 from Verizon, $480 on plan, which is nice. But, that would have forced me off my OG Unlimited plan, which would then cost me at least $20 more a month.
I decided to try the HTC U11, since it is bootloader unlockable and they swear that the Unlocked version also works on Verizon CDMA. F'n better work.
G6 might have better screen. U11 has better camera and 2x storage @ 64GB. Hope I don't miss swappable batteries.
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I'm waiting until October for Pixel 2 most likely. It would be nice to have an unlocked phone that gets support from the manufacturer in a timely manner. Plus, no Alexa and possibly a headphone jack.
I'm actually pretty sold on Alexa. I have two Echo Dots and a ton of WeMo devices, thermostat, security, etc.
I wanted the Alexa integration, to be honest.
Just wanted to give an update. S7 is still going strong on Nougat with no issues. Battery life is good for me (except when I play games which is most of the time ) and performance is great. Definitely better than the G3, but I really had no issues with the G3 performance-wise, but I can tell a difference in response on certain apps/games.
Still miss the G3 and wish I could have made it work, but it has since been retired to the recycle bin. :crying:
Now in my family, my oldest daughter and my wife have S7s as well. My daughter was the first to get it. Then me. Then my wife. Our other daughter has an iPhone 7s. Tried to get her to switch to Android, but she does have a lot wrapped up in her phone as far as music, apps, etc. Plus, she as an Apple Notebook, so in many respects, it all works for her. I just hate when she has issues with it not backing up photos and such correctly. And same with her music and trying to get it off the phone. One of the major reasons why I never went to an iPhone after seeing all the issues my daughters had with their iPods so many years back. That pretty much told me to stay away if I can't easily backup up music and files from my phone.
Had a launch Nexus 6p that I bought from the google store, I never purchase extended warranties and have never needed one since every device I've ever owned since my Treo 650 has lasted well beyond its useful life but was still perfectly functional. Hell, I still have a S3 rocking for my kid and it works fine all these years later.
A few months ago I started having the 15% shut off error. Noticed it, wasn't a huge deal because I rarely use the device that low. Few days ago it started getting progressively worse and now the device will turn off between 30-50% depending on the day. Obviously this isn't ideal.
Never had a device do that, ever. Was pretty disappointed actually as this is an obvious hardware issue and was contemplating skipping on Nexus / Pixel devices in the future, heck was even thinking of having an affair with an IPhone for a bit. It had been a long time (since the 3g) and sometimes change is good. The 6p and 5x have had a number of issues, enough that there are class action suits floating around.
Anyway, I wasn't going to call Google. I mean this device was well past warranty, no extended was purchased so why bother calling right? Well I got a wild hair and decided to do just that. Setup a return call and a minute later had someone calling me back.
Explained the issue, told him I wasn't sure if there was anything they could recommend or do but wanted to check. 5 minutes later he is sending me the email for RMA and new device.
Now technically Google didn't have to anything. I know that, I'm appreciative of their efforts to keep me happy. I never asked for nor demanded a replacement, it was offered and for that I am very grateful. I'm not sure if the class action lawsuits over 5x and 6p issues are causing them to be extra cautious, I don't know if this is really par for the course with them. I've never had issues in the past and hope I never do in the future.
Obviously it is preferable for the user to not have to deal with this crap but how a company responds to these issues is important. Easy to sing praise at a company for developing the perfect device that lasts you 4 years when most probably dump it in 2. Harder when the POS you bought is starting to die 14 months in and on hospice at 16 months and the issues are severe enough that class action is talked about. Either way, Google deserves some credit for stepping up to the plate when they didn't have to. I'm a happy user.
I can't say this will occur for everyone with the same issue. What I will say is that if you're out of warranty, don't let that keep you from calling and talking about the issue.
Thank you Google and the Google support staff. Service like that will keep me in Pixels and whatever from the google store forever.
I may try this soon because mine is doing the same thing...
I had the same issue on my XL.... shutting off with no warning after 2-4 hours at about 40-50%, yet I could boot into recovery and stay there until at least 20%. So had accelerated battery loss and an early shutoff.
Bought it open-box off Swappa, so had no Google receipt, but on a whim, opened a support issue (text) from my 6P, which worked fine. I was offered an exchange no-problem. I chose to send in my phone first and had the replacement in less than a week.
FWIW, I think my issue started when I flashed May update and charged it after using a QC 2.0 charger. I usually use a Qi charger and charge it overnight.
I had exactly the same, well outside the standard 1 year warranty. Used the online agent chat to explain the early shut off problem. They instantly suggested an RMA, I didn't have to beg or ask for a replacement. I Ended up getting a brand new phone in its retail box. I saw someone else in another thread say Google offered a full money refund as they didn't have a like for like replacement available. Well done Google!
I got a refurb.
That's awesome to hear. I think they're taking the bad press very seriously.
that was nice of them !
happy for you , btw. i quite often read about this issue from users.
but how exactly does it power off??
does it shut down by its own? like a complete shutdown?
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that was nice of them !
happy for you , btw. i quite often read about this issue from users.
but how exactly does it power off??
does it shut down by its own? like a complete shutdown?
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Yup, just shuts down. If you try and reboot it is as if you are at 1%. Before shutting down it will show 15% or 30% left on the battery and then boom shutting down.
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Yup, just shuts down. If you try and reboot it is as if you are at 1%. Before shutting down it will show 15% or 30% left on the battery and then boom shutting down.
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so you have had it since launch ? meaning nearly 2 years or so?
i have mine since about a year now, i hope i wont experience the same issue.
the only thing i experienced was statusbar clock freezing on me sometimes.
and very slight graphical glitches within certain apps.
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I got a refurb.
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Me too. I have another 5 months with Nexus Protect.
Refurb came in today and what a total POS. Shuts off randomly from 30 seconds to 20 minutes. You can see the battery % getting all crazy from 93% to 73% to 83% then boom off. Going to call google tomorrow to let them know. Stupid thing died half a dozen times between setup and the apps finishing to download. They must have absolutely zero quality control over at their refurb center.
This will be my last Huwei device and my wife won't buy another LG product either. They really screwed the pooch on that device gen.
Giving me a full refund. Just have to send in both devices.
Mod please feel free to merge the two threads I looked on the first page and saw nothing when I posted.
How long did it take after doing the email stuff for people to get the replacement? People that got refurbished ones how did they look? My replacement is about to be ordered. google customer service is pretty awesome.
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How long did it take after doing the email stuff for people to get the replacement? People that got refurbished ones how did they look? My replacement is about to be ordered. google customer service is pretty awesome.
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I love Google. They just took my word that I'd tried everything and couldn't sort it and sent a refurbished phone. It works perfectly and I love it! Now and then when you call you get the odd person who is hard to talk to but that is usually someone in an Indian call centre that doesn't really understand my problem. It took under a week for me. It can take up to two weeks but you should really get it within 5 working days.
I have the same horrible battery issue and am speaking to Google now. Do you think I should mention that I also have a cracked screen (but this is not why I am trying to get a replacement at all)? Or do you think I should say nothing and they wont have an issue still replacing it when I send it in?
EDIT: Nevermind, I mentioned it to the support person and assured him that it was not the reason for wanting a replacement and he said they cannot make the same exception anymore, but if I wanted, they could send me an advance refurb but then they'd bill me for the screen which would not be covered. He is having trouble telling me the screen cost though first...
Not sure if it's worth that for just a refurb at this point. POS phone. I told him I'll hold off for now.
I didn't opt for the "advanced" replacement (where they ship a phone first and charge my CC), yet they appeared to have shipped my refurb shortly after I shipped mine. I got my refurb about 3 business days after shipping mine and confirmation about 5 days after I had my phone that they had received my defective one. My refurb looked great (as did my defective phone)
Talked to support on chat and they took care of me (even though i didn't have a warranty and my phone is 2 years old) as a one time courtesy. Google customer service is pretty awesome! phone will be here within a few days. ?
google took care of me as well. my replacement will be in tomorrow. I have had my 6p since launch. only swapped out because of the obvious battery issue.
I'm facing the battery issue too, but the problem is that I live in Brazil and the 6P wasn't officially released here. I bought mine during a trip to US last year. I was thinking about buy a battery and try to replace it by myself but I'm afraid of shatter the camera glass during the disassemble.
So here is my question: how long is taking in average to get the refurb (in advance)? I'll be in Round Rock (near Austin) for a whole week next month but I'm not sure if it's enough time to do this exchange.
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I'm facing the battery issue too, but the problem is that I live in Brazil and the 6P wasn't officially released here. I bought mine during a trip to US last year. I was thinking about buy a battery and try to replace it by myself but I'm afraid of shatter the camera glass during the disassemble.
So here is my question: how long is taking in average to get the refurb (in advance)? I'll be in Round Rock (near Austin) for a whole week next month but I'm not sure if it's enough time to do this exchange.
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3 business days
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