Hi guys,
I've never owned a Sony phone before and I know this is quite new, but is anyone aware of any custom ROMs coming for this device? I've always used HTC flagship phones which used get them almost on release, however their not releasing flagship phones anymore and I'm due for an upgrade from my U11 and this phone is at the top of my list. I just don't tend to want to buy a phone without custom ROM support as no one wants to be left in the dust...
Let me know what's happening guys.
Cheers.
microang said:
Hi guys,
I've never owned a Sony phone before and I know this is quite new, but is anyone aware of any custom ROMs coming for this device? I've always used HTC flagship phones which used get them almost on release, however their not releasing flagship phones anymore and I'm due for an upgrade from my U11 and this phone is at the top of my list. I just don't tend to want to buy a phone without custom ROM support as no one wants to be left in the dust...
Let me know what's happening guys.
Cheers.
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Popularity and the price of this device will delay the release of custom ROMs. They will come but probably not any time soon.
You should be able to flash a GSI of a custom ROM onto it
microang said:
Hi guys,
I've never owned a Sony phone before and I know this is quite new, but is anyone aware of any custom ROMs coming for this device? I've always used HTC flagship phones which used get them almost on release, however their not releasing flagship phones anymore and I'm due for an upgrade from my U11 and this phone is at the top of my list. I just don't tend to want to buy a phone without custom ROM support as no one wants to be left in the dust...
Let me know what's happening guys.
Cheers.
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Sony still hasn't added the Xperia 1 to their Open Devices list:
https://developer.sony.com/develop/...d-functionality/supported-devices-maintained/
When Sony does so, it will receive plenty of custom-ROMs. Sony added the Xperia 10 to the Open Devices list recently, so it's only a matter of time before the Xperia 1 is included in the Open Devices list.
So basically they like to be lazy about releasing source, Xperia 10 came out in February so if they just released the source now, and they do it for the 1 at the same rate it'll be out in 4 months. Have used HTC until now who seemed to release it with the device. Shame they are pretty much dead now.
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So basically they like to be lazy about releasing source, Xperia 10 came out in February so if they just released the source for the 1 at the same rate it'll be out in 4 months. Have used HTC until now who seemed to release it with the device. Shame they are pretty much dead now.
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They used to be really good with releasing the source, not sure why they've decided to slow the release down.
Even with the source custom ROMs will be months away.
It's a real shame, I got the Xperia 1 as it was the only none Samsung that met my needs (I don't like supporting monopoly companies) and I thought Sony would have better support. It's a good phone but I'm missing a lot of the features of having a rooted phone with everything working (not currently possible apparently). This is the first phone I've had that I didn't have rooted and on a custom rom day one. Hope it does get more support though, it has its issues but it is a great device overall coming from a HTC U11.
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It's a real shame, I got the Xperia 1 as it was the only none Samsung that met my needs (I don't like supporting monopoly companies) and I thought Sony would have better support. It's a good phone but I'm missing a lot of the features of having a rooted phone with everything working (not currently possible apparently). This is the first phone I've had that I didn't have rooted and on a custom rom day one. Hope it does get more support though, it has its issues but it is a great device overall coming from a HTC U11.
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Don't get your hopes up, there probably won't be a custom ROM out this year, if at all...
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Don't get your hopes up, there probably won't be a custom ROM out this year, if at all...
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I'm thinking Q2 next year, always got the custom Rom GSIs to fall back on
Have no beacuse Xperia 1 do not popular on 91 point on DXO and Xperia 1 is bad Smartphone of the year .
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Have no beacuse Xperia 1 do not popular on 91 point on DXO and Xperia 1 is bad Smartphone of the year .
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No, there is none cause it's far too early considering the price point, open source program etc
Hope to see ParanoidAndroid give the Xperia 1 some love eventually
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They used to be really good with releasing the source, not sure why they've decided to slow the release down.
Even with the source custom ROMs will be months away.
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I believe they will publish the source code for the Xperia 1 eventually, it's just that right now they're having issues with the restructuring of Sony Mobile (cutting costs, and the Swedish division is being laid off, and the Swedish division was responsible for a lot of the software stuff).
The problem of course, as always, is that iDiots keep buying iPhone and ****ty Android phones, and they're not appreciating a world class brand like Sony. Sony's Open Devices program is one of the most important reasons why anyone in his right mind should buy a flagship/high-end Xperia.
Anyway, now with Huawei out of the picture, hopefully Xperia starts selling well again.
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I believe they will publish the source code for the Xperia 1 eventually, it's just that right now they're having issues with the restructuring of Sony Mobile (cutting costs, and the Swedish division is being laid off, and the Swedish division was responsible for a lot of the software stuff).
The problem of course, as always, is that iDiots keep buying iPhone and ****ty Android phones, and they're not appreciating a world class brand like Sony. Sony's Open Devices program is one of the most important reasons why anyone in his right mind should buy a flagship/high-end Xperia.
Anyway, now with Huawei out of the picture, hopefully Xperia starts selling well again.
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They will release it soon but like any high end Sony phones they don't sell well and won't get much attention.
Xperia phones will never recover as the competition is too much for them and price point too much.
With Huawei out the picture Xiaomi etc will just take up their share.
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They will release it soon but like any high end Sony phones they don't sell well and won't get much attention.
Xperia phones will never recover as the competition is too much for them and price point too much.
With Huawei out the picture Xiaomi etc will just take up their share.
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XZ2 got a decent amount of ROMs, OmniROM, LineageOS, eXistenZ, etc. XZ3 only got OmniROM as far as I'm aware..
As for the Open Device Program, they added the XZ2 & XZ3 in November 2018 & each device was released in April & October so hopefully we'll see the Xperia 1 added before the end of the year..
Personally I hope the ParanoidAndroid team will have a release for the Xperia 1 as well as OmniROM, I'm not too fussed about LineageOS or eXistenZ but the more the better
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Have no beacuse Xperia 1 do not popular on 91 point on DXO and Xperia 1 is bad Smartphone of the year .
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**** DXO and their blackmailing funding tactics. Such a bunch of idiots.
Xperia 1 is one of the top 5 phones delivered / released in 2019. Anything else is just pure bull****.
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**** DXO and their blackmailing funding tactics. Such a bunch of idiots.
Xperia 1 is one of the top 5 phones delivered / released in 2019. Anything else is just pure bull****.
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Totally agree, lack of "funding testing" (blackmail) from Nokia earned a 89 score on their Nokia 9
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Totally agree, lack of "funding testing" (blackmail) from Nokia earned a 89 score on their Nokia 9
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And still, Nokia is one of the top tiers when it comes to camera perf deliverance.. If people only knew what DXO is doing, they would demand the site being shut down asap.
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And still, Nokia is one of the top tiers when it comes to camera perf deliverance.. If people only knew what DXO is doing, they would demand the site being shut down asap.
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Yes . I think Nokia 9 purview is the best photo and have more feture enough for 2019 .
FAKE DXO but Xperia 1 Real score for 91
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Yes . I think Nokia 9 purview is the best photo and have more feture enough for 2019 .
FAKE DXO but Xperia 1 Real score for 91
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You are retarded, no doubt about it. Stop flaming a phone just because you can't afford it, and stop posting trash on the threads.
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You are retarded, no doubt about it. Stop flaming a phone just because you can't afford it, and stop posting trash on the threads.
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Or it could just be their opinion which should be respected and not attacked.
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Today i was reading an article on tech radar about the top 20 smart phones today, the Xperia S made the list but the Acro S didn't and not just that; i am a religious follower of most major tech blogs and sites and i seldom come across anything talking about the Acro S,
this forum also serve as an example, how many threads do you see about the Acro S compared to the S? How many roms, custom kernels, etc?
The only thing i can think of is bad marketing as they both have almost identical hardware except that the Acro is rugged, waterproof and does not suffer from the fail capacitive button or the lack of sd card support which makes it a 100 times better phone, this is a clear example of Sony bad marketing, i mean the better device isn't even popular amongst those loyal to the brand let alone other none Sony users.
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that top is not that good ...LG 4x on 6th place???????? wtf ...seriously..
and yeah acro s isn't a " normal " phone like sony...it has splash etc things..maybe that's why they didin't included in their rank.
I stopped reading hi-tech news and blogs a long time ago. Too many biased and fanboyish opinion. Most of those blogs now are either pro-Samsung or pro-Apple. Everything got to compare to the S3/New Iphone. Sony, LG and other smartphones company got smashed to death. So, what's the point?
bad marketing led to bad dev support
its that bad that the well talented and knowledgeable developers with good taste aren't here. compared to what i used to have and get with xperia arc S. people in this xperia 2012 forum doesn't work well with each other. i have posted and created several threads for the betterment of the device, but none or a very few are responding.
hell they don't even care if they a have a slick and good looking quicktoggles that matches the SONY UXP UI, a very few cooperate with software issues like quick camera launch bug and the BRAVIA engine issue for unlocked bootloaders.
several devs from 2012 line up were asking devs from this forum for a little cooperation of porting some goodies, but no one is cooperating.
IF I ONLY HAD THE KNOWLEDGE HOW TO DO ALL THIS, I WILL SPEND ATLEAST A FEW HOURS OF MY FREE TIME TO MAKE THIS GLOOMY FORUM LIVELY.
They don't sell the acro s everywhere, maybe that's why.
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ambetdelarosa said:
IF I ONLY HAD THE KNOWLEDGE HOW TO DO ALL THIS, I WILL SPEND ATLEAST A FEW HOURS OF MY FREE TIME TO MAKE THIS GLOOMY FORUM LIVELY.
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The knowledge can be gathered all over the internet. I also do not have the knowledge but the lack of customizations for Acro S lead me to try to tweak stuff myself .. and guess what: it worked .
Now we are getting to the second part of your sentence: free time. What free time ? I wish I had at least 2 hours a day to dedicate on doing new stuff ... but I don't. And looking at the dev. community, there are few devs doing stuff for a lot of devices so I guess they don't have too much time to dedicate to Acro S alone.
So basically we are stuck ... I tried MIUI - no go for me. I them moved to CM .. 9.1 is fine but still has few bugs ... CM10 is not yet ready for daily use. So ... I got stuck with the original sony firmware with some tweaks that I implemented myself and with all the bloatware removed. In the end is a nice and stable device so I don;t complain too much ... I just wish some JB would be made available by Sony (considering that my previous device was a Galaxy Nexus I know what I'm missing).
As for the "badly marketed" part I do not agree. In my opinion Acro S was a test conceived to see how people will adhere to such a phone. Is not the fastest nor the slimmest device on the market and the battery life is sub-par ... but is waterproof. And apparently there is not a lot of people out there willing to trade off slickness for roughness ... and if there is no huge market, so is the advertising/marketing for the product.
And let's not forget. This phone was announced way back, at the beginning of 2012 ... and it was made available in September ... quite a delay I might say. From now on people are concentrating on the new models.
In a way I agree this thing is badly marketed. On August 9 I sent message to sony support center Romania, and they replied me on August 21 saying:
With regards to your inquiry, first of all we would like to apologize for the delay in our answer for your email. We would like to inform you that Xperia Acro S is not available in the Romanian market.
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Couple of days later I found out that many mobile phone vendors here in Romania already sell this item.
not yet released in india where defy rules and it could be a great success, if they had released it in india poor marketing ..............
ro_explorer said:
The knowledge can be gathered all over the internet. I also do not have the knowledge but the lack of customizations for Acro S lead me to try to tweak stuff myself .. and guess what: it worked .
Now we are getting to the second part of your sentence: free time. What free time ? I wish I had at least 2 hours a day to dedicate on doing new stuff ... but I don't. And looking at the dev. community, there are few devs doing stuff for a lot of devices so I guess they don't have too much time to dedicate to Acro S alone.
So basically we are stuck ... I tried MIUI - no go for me. I them moved to CM .. 9.1 is fine but still has few bugs ... CM10 is not yet ready for daily use. So ... I got stuck with the original sony firmware with some tweaks that I implemented myself and with all the bloatware removed. In the end is a nice and stable device so I don;t complain too much ... I just wish some JB would be made available by Sony (considering that my previous device was a Galaxy Nexus I know what I'm missing).
As for the "badly marketed" part I do not agree. In my opinion Acro S was a test conceived to see how people will adhere to such a phone. Is not the fastest nor the slimmest device on the market and the battery life is sub-par ... but is waterproof. And apparently there is not a lot of people out there willing to trade off slickness for roughness ... and if there is no huge market, so is the advertising/marketing for the product.
And let's not forget. This phone was announced way back, at the beginning of 2012 ... and it was made available in September ... quite a delay I might say. From now on people are concentrating on the new models.
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The Acro S has the same cpu, gpu, ram, camera as the Xperia S. The same amazing display with the highest pixel density in the entire market and it supports SD cards up to 64 gigs while the S can't support SD at all, now since you mentioned the battery, Acro S has a 1910 mAh battery, the S 1750 mAh battery.
Add to that the fact that it's waterproof, dust proof and that it can take a beating and that it does not suffer from the buttons failing problem in the S and you got a phone that is superior in every single way, yet today people still go buy the S while the Acro sits next to it on the shelf, why? Terrible marketing, do you think anyone who knows what i just wrote will still buy an S?
The only place where the Acro have been properly promoted was in Japan and it was a massive hit, dude who wouldn't take a waterproof rugged phone that can dive and offer specs better than the flagship device?, and i am talking mainly about the japanese versions of the Acro that got released way before the Acro S when the Xperia S was still Sony's flagship.
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Acro S is advertised alot in Hong Kong ... Thats why release date for v is pushed here in Hong Kong ,,,, !
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The Acro S has the same cpu, gpu, ram, camera as the Xperia S. The same amazing display with the highest pixel density in the entire market and it supports SD cards up to 64 gigs while the S can't support SD at all, now since you mentioned the battery, Acro S has a 1910 mAh battery, the S 1750 mAh battery.
Add to that the fact that it's waterproof, dust proof and that it can take a beating and that it does not suffer from the buttons failing problem in the S and you got a phone that is superior in every single way, yet today people still go buy the S while the Acro sits next to it on the shelf, why? Terrible marketing, do you think anyone who knows what i just wrote will still buy an S?
The only place where the Acro have been properly promoted was in Japan and it was a massive hit, dude who wouldn't take a waterproof rugged phone that can dive and offer specs better than the flagship device?, and i am talking mainly about the japanese versions of the Acro that got released way before the Acro S when the Xperia S was still Sony's flagship.
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I know everything to know, and it is sold in my country. But I still go for the S.
Acro S is a little late to the party than other phone had become cheap.
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Yes, no or maybe
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with my heart yes, but with my head NO.
so I guess i'm begging to be a guy with a " head on his shoulders"
Maybe...
I really like the Sony hardware, but the slow update cycles (Jellybean March 2013 - Really?) are making we regret buying the Xperia S. I am seriously thinking of selling it and buying a Nexus 4 instead.
The only thing that might change that decision right now, is an official ASOP Jellybean release by Sony/Google. However the ASOP tree looks dead, with no activity for ages.
Thinking that Sony have thrown in the towel with the XPeria S.
Only if it is a Sony Nexus device as it would probably be the best looking device with fastest and most up to date software.
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No never
Sony stops updates for older devices and expects us to purchase their new models
My xu 2012 released has no announcements regarding jelly bean
Bt that crap Xperia j will b updated
Why? Bcoz it was released recently
drsanket_xperia_u said:
No never
Sony stops updates for older devices and expects us to purchase their new models
My xu 2012 released has no announcements regarding jelly bean
Bt that crap Xperia j will b updated
Why? Bcoz it was released recently
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That's life. Xperia U is an entry level phone, it was released with Gingerbread, and got an ICS update. Show me another manufacturer that bothers to update the base OS on their entry level phones.
I dun consider a phone priced at 16000 to b entry level
Its a mid range
And it was released in may 2012 when all other major manufacturers were shipping wid ics on board
So getting released wid 2.3 was a negative aspect of SONY as this phone was considered to b a NXT phone
So ics was mandatory for it
Bt it got just a single official update ( which logically it should have been shipped wod)
U can call galaxy mini, htc explorer, sony xperia tipo to b entry level as they are priced below 10000INR
@the admins,
When I can't have my Sony love thread due to possible flaming then this thread might not be a good idea either.
@the thread,
My heart is with Sony. My ICS is perfect and when I get JB in the same quality I will buy again.
Another important point for me stays the support of CM. actually that's more important to me than official JB.
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No. This phone has good ideas, but fails in the execution.
ICS for Sola in September 2012. Really? When I brought a new phone, I expected an upgrade, or at least ICS --> ICS. Not ICS --> GB.
Floating touch is, again, a good idea. But it is fairly useless and is impossible to type with.
Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
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Maybe...
I really like the Sony hardware, but the slow update cycles (Jellybean March 2013 - Really?) are making we regret buying the Xperia S. I am seriously thinking of selling it and buying a Nexus 4 instead.
The only thing that might change that decision right now, is an official ASOP Jellybean release by Sony/Google. However the ASOP tree looks dead, with no activity for ages.
Thinking that Sony have thrown in the towel with the XPeria S.
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who said that the JB will appear in march ?
MrBelter said:
Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
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Yes, how much will it cost?
"The 8GB version (unlocked) is priced at $299, while the 16GB version is $349. T-Mobile USA will carry the 16GB LG Nexus 4, though with a price of $199 and a 2-year contract, it doesn't sound like much of a deal.
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Not a chance. I told myself the same thing after my X10 but was foolishly drawn in by the XS (no patience). I will never buy another Sony phone again. Apart from the awful update cycle this phone has become utterly boring and ICS has made it very buggy. You should be able to get £150-200 for this phone so only pay ~£100 on top for the 16Gb Nexus. Can't wait!
Sony always stays a generation behind.
When others release quad core phones it releases dual core.
Besides the buttons if my neo v worn off within three months
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only if they start sticking bigger batteries on their phones.
Sony used to pride itself on battery performance on their portable devices in the 90s, now their phones can hardly match the Battery longevity of a cheapo Chinese brand phone.
They also need to do something about their updates, the galaxy s3 and HTC one x both launched after the s and both are already officially running jelly bean.
They should release 1 or 2 flagships per year and put all their resources to make sure they are kept up to date for at least 1.5 years with no delays pushing out updates.
I think I might get the n4 and see if Sony get their shtt together before supporting them again.
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Yes, how much will it cost?
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UK is £239 for 8GB and £279 for 16GB. My Xperia S cost me £420.
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Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
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Same here
Nexus 4 will beat the hell out of all
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who said that the JB will appear in march ?
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I was being conservative, it may be later.
The 2012 phones are all still 6 months away from getting Jellybean on them, according to Sony.
For now, AOKP on my S is fine but as soon as the Nexus 4 lands here in Germany, I'll leave Sony for good.
I recently came across a bunch a rumors that Sony plans to release another flagship phone, Z3, in 2014 6 months after the Z2 is released. So basically the same scenario with the Z1 and Z2.
Is this a wise move from Sony? Wouldn't it just anger customers as they will have just purchased their newest flagship only to be replaced by another 6 month later so that feeling of having the latest Sony phones dies out. By the time one finishes their contract 3 new Sony flagships would have been released, that takes the piss.
I am guessing this would also cause updates to be even slower since they have more models to focus on, or they could just drop the older models which again is sad.
What do you guys think?
I think its important so Sony can become a force to recon with.
In the second half of the year the newer S805 chipset will be out, thus Z3 is a much needed upgrade over Z2 to keep Sony ahead of the competition.
If you look at it, Samsung releases a new flagship every 6 months too, in the form of Galaxy S lineup and Galaxy Note lineup.
Sony has been releasing a flagship or improved variant every six months for years. Count on another this holiday season.
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6 month release cycle is their philosophy for always being able to stay cutting edge and have the latest hardware offerings.
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As long as Sony doesn't skimp on the design and improvements, I think it's great that they release a flagship every 6 months. After all, even if they don't, someone else will release a phone with better specs in that time frame and your phone still won't be top of the line anymore. That's just the way technology works.
Probably a Z Ultra 2
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Fadeless said:
I recently came across a bunch a rumors that Sony plans to release another flagship phone, Z3, in 2014 6 months after the Z2 is released. So basically the same scenario with the Z1 and Z2.
Is this a wise move from Sony? Wouldn't it just anger customers as they will have just purchased their newest flagship only to be replaced by another 6 month later so that feeling of having the latest Sony phones dies out. By the time one finishes their contract 3 new Sony flagships would have been released, that takes the piss.
I am guessing this would also cause updates to be even slower since they have more models to focus on, or they could just drop the older models which again is sad.
What do you guys think?
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they said 6months but didn't mention XZ3!
as year policy they won't release any huge improvements cause XZ1 will remain main flagship for this year.
maybe in CES15 they release something really huge.
But we can be sure about expected specs for that;
no more than 3GB RAM
and in my opinion they will clock cpu on 2.5GHz
display won't be more than 5.2" for smartphone but different design is 100%
and other feature will be just tweaks of current features.
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I guess it's good for Sony to do this but it does make people with their phones feel like crap since they get outdated very fast.
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I guess it's good for Sony to do this but it does make people with their phones feel like crap since they get outdated very fast.
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Sony needs to do that to capture as much market as it possibly could.
If it means angering a few... lets use the expression "passionate users", over an outdated phone because they have the need to always get the latest and greates - then so be it. This way they can capture people upgrading their contracts both at the beginning of the year - and at the end.
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Sony needs to do that to capture as much market as it possibly could.
If it means angering a few... lets use the expression "passionate users", over an outdated phone because they have the need to always get the latest and greates - then so be it. This way they can capture people upgrading their contracts both at the beginning of the year - and at the end.
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I totally agree with the whole idea of "making new flagship device every 6 months". However, with their current distribution strategy, that idea is worthless because consumers don't have access to their devices in a timely manner. This bottleneck is the greatest constraint that prevents them from capturing more market share, especially in US.
Whatever happens with the Z3 i hope Sony learn their bloody lesson and announce and release phones within a 4 week window like HTC and Samsung usually do... not this 2-3 month later bull crap.
@Fadeless
I don't know where you have been but sony is releasing a new flagship every 6 months since the year 2011. the reason or one of the reason for it is because the japanese consumer demands it. anyway, it doesn't really matter since most people buy an expensive phone for a good 3 years or more and you should buy what you like and be happy with your purchase regardless of what is coming in the future.
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they said 6months but didn't mention XZ3!
as year policy they won't release any huge improvements cause XZ1 will remain main flagship for this year.
maybe in CES15 they release something really huge.
But we can be sure about expected specs for that;
no more than 3GB RAM
and in my opinion they will clock cpu on 2.5GHz
display won't be more than 5.2" for smartphone but different design is 100%
and other feature will be just tweaks of current features.
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what I can confirmed:
2nd generation Omni Balance design
late Sep, 2014
integrated QI
late 2014 will release Z3 compact（4.6“）
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what I can confirmed:
2nd generation Omni Balance design
late Sep, 2014
integrated QI
late 2014 will release Z3 compact（4.6“）
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I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32 <-------------- This is a Joke, Right? Minimum acceptable 64GB!
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
They said that they will release another flagship this year and that they won't stick to a single design. So basically it doesn't necessarily have to be Z3... might be X1 or F1 or any other new series with a different design.
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I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32 <-------------- This is a Joke, Right? Minimum acceptable 64GB!
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
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YeeeeeeeeeeeeeS
I don't no why Sony use ( take 16 GB ) from Samsung !
Must take 32 GB
anyone else looked at this phone? seems like a decent replacement and not too small.
if not, what else are people moving onto?
given up on sony releasing
I'm just looking at nexus, blackberry if the rumors is true that they will move on to android, or the classic HTC.
HTC is probably the manufacturer you can't go wrong with. If you look at this part of the XDA forum..its filled with devs making roms and kernels.
I think s810 is just temporarily. Maybe next year there will be a new series of soc that won't overheat as this years release.
Its just the same as with the tegra 3. You could fry eggs on it. But HTC moved on and improved their devices. And I hope they will release another beast in the near future.
Huawei is enlarging their market on mobile devices but I think its to early to invest in one of those devices. I want there to be devs who makes roms so I don't have to rely only on the stock rom/firmware to work when something goes wrong. If that ever happens...who knows.
Samsung is a no go. They don't exist in my world. Last and only device I owned was the SII Exynos 4210. They make good electronics elsewhere but not mobile devices.
LG is also a no go. Only nexus. To much plastic, big LG logo and weird cheap looking software interface on stock rom. Reminds me of MIUI and Huawei.
SONY is moving from europe home to japan. Okay...weird. So then I just won't buy your stuff then. Bye..I will never buy a sony mobile device again.
When "I" am buying a device. I am only buying the flagships. Because I am looking for an investment that will last for many years and won't seem slow even after four years compared to newer devices. And also the general lifetime of the device. I want there to be devs here on the forum that I can rely on after device has reached the end-of-lifetime.
The Z ultra is a bit special. It has the same hardware specs as its brother Z1....so for performance I would still call this a kind of side show flagship despite the low spec camera.
i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
tommo123 said:
i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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I don't have any experience of motorola exept for the old classic pagers and radios. I've never seen a moto x in real life so I don't really have any opinion. Its offered at a good price yes! but yeah I really dunno. The only con I can see is the tiny battery at 2300mAh.
From what I can see its almost like some mix to a budget nexus device..almost stock rom and no bloat apps. :good:
Me myself is waiting to see what google has to offer. There is already a bunch of pics of the new nexus devices but I'm curiously waiting for the release event
3000 for the style no?
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3000 for the style no?
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oops ....I probably looked at the older model. You're right its 3000mAh!
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_style-7229.php
Then it looks alright!
gave me a scare there for a sec
Hi guys,
I feel it's really sad to see there are so few options to mod our Xperia phone.
I think Sony made a great phone with pretty good OS and feature set, as well as design, but we have almost zero modding options.
There's no official TWRP, which seems odd since there's an official one for the much similar Xperia X Performance...
Also, no Lineage, no custom ROMs other than a few ones that aren't really famous and well known like Lineage or others.
Do you guys know why is this phone so underrated? Is it so difficult to port ROMs to or are there just a few users?
Cheers
PS Still hope for an official Lineage/TWRP port... fingers crossed for now
Well there are two stock based roms and OmniRom for the xx, which is not too bad. There are also at least two twrp versions around that are not official, but do what they need to do. If you are used to Lineage you'll like Omni!
That said, Sony had hoped to sell double the number of devices in the x-series as they actually did. Unfortunately demand is not so high for midrange phones that perform as good as last year's premium phones.
M1chiel said:
Well there are two stock based roms and OmniRom for the xx, which is not too bad. There are also at least two twrp versions around that are not official, but do what they need to do. If you are used to Lineage you'll like Omni!
That said, Sony had hoped to sell double the number of devices in the x-series as they actually did. Unfortunately demand is not so high for midrange phones that perform as good as last year's premium phones.
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I actually think that the demand for mid-rangers are actually fairly high if it was at the right price bracket.
The Xperia X with its $899 or was it $799NZD was actually on par with discounted flagships like the regular 32GB S7 making it a bad buy.
Likewise, I bought this phone when it was on special at $549 and while it's not exactly cheap, that is the price it should honestly be sold at.
It was a touch below the price of the Galaxy A5 2016 making this phone the more appealing premium mid-ranger.
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I actually think that the demand for mid-rangers are actually fairly high if it was at the right price bracket.
The Xperia X with its $899 or was it $799NZD was actually on par with discounted flagships like the regular 32GB S7 making it a bad buy.
Likewise, I bought this phone when it was on special at $549 and while it's not exactly cheap, that is the price it should honestly be sold at.
It was a touch below the price of the Galaxy A5 2016 making this phone the more appealing premium mid-ranger.
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I agree that the xx was too expensive when it was introduced. I also bought it after the price had dropped .
Seriously guys? I actually got mine for a pretty good price (320 euros). That's not a lot for the phone's specs tbh.
Anyway I agree that there's some TWRP around, but how deep can a user trust a dropbox-hosted custom recovery made by who knows...
Not to disrespect by any means the dev behind it, but being this my main phone I'd prefer a more official recovery.
Also gotta try this OmniRom, seems a good project, but still no way of trying it without the proper twrp.
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Seriously guys? I actually got mine for a pretty good price (320 euros). That's not a lot for the phone's specs tbh.
Anyway I agree that there's some TWRP around, but how deep can a user trust a dropbox-hosted custom recovery made by who knows...
Not to disrespect by any means the dev behind it, but being this my main phone I'd prefer a more official recovery.
Also gotta try this OmniRom, seems a good project, but still no way of trying it without the proper twrp.
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I know right? I do not understand how they paid so much for this thing. I payed 320 months ago. Now it goes for as low as 280! For that price, you cannot get a better deal unless you want some chinese stuff. Personally I spent months researching phones at that price and this was the best.
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I know right? I do not understand how they paid so much for this thing. I payed 320 months ago. Now it goes for as low as 280! For that price, you cannot get a better deal unless you want some chinese stuff. Personally I spent months researching phones at that price and this was the best.
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Yeah it's a damn good deal at 300, and keep in mind i bought it some months ago when it was even better.
That being said the development behind it is terrible
JoeWan said:
Hi guys,
I feel it's really sad to see there are so few options to mod our Xperia phone.
I think Sony made a great phone with pretty good OS and feature set, as well as design, but we have almost zero modding options.
There's no official TWRP, which seems odd since there's an official one for the much similar Xperia X Performance...
Also, no Lineage, no custom ROMs other than a few ones that aren't really famous and well known like Lineage or others.
Do you guys know why is this phone so underrated? Is it so difficult to port ROMs to or are there just a few users?
Cheers
PS Still hope for an official Lineage/TWRP port... fingers crossed for now
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to answer you question, you have to consider SONY's health as business entity! the company had 2.3+ Billion losses in 2015 even with z5 and z5p on their side! (there are many reasons for that)
1. they don't usually link their devices with careers (like samsung does)
2. only gsm
3 poor marketing (the biggest)
4 drmkeys concept (for developers)
now when Xperia X was launched when sony dumped whole Z project and never released Z6 , (may be XZP is another name of z6p) . also X was never released in many countries! in my country there is no Xperia dealer and i order them from dubai.
when extremely talented devices gets extinct, you don't see much activity in developer world also! , If you wana see the most successful and popular ever xperia! , in my opinion Xperia Z (C6602/03 ) is the king. there are so many roms, tweaks, recoveries, for that device! Sony was down very well that time!
now, coming back to X, i have X, its nice phone, today got 7.1.1 from sony. so they haven't completely abandon it; its just its not a very popular device in developer world
I got my XX almost a year ago. Used it like 4 months as my only phone, then as a jukebox when I got a Honor 8 and then an OnePlus 3T, those are good phones but there's something I like of my Xperia X, that's why I installed an Android 7.1.2 concept ROM and I'm using it again. Can't believe the screen is sharper and clearer in the sunset than the OP3T! Also, audio and video recorder is superior than Honor 8 and OP3T.
Even if I hate the fingerprint scanner location, I like my Xperia and I'm currently using it as my daily phone again, while I'm experimenting with the OP3T.
Too bad developers don't have too much interest on this nice piece of phone.