I recently came across a bunch a rumors that Sony plans to release another flagship phone, Z3, in 2014 6 months after the Z2 is released. So basically the same scenario with the Z1 and Z2.
Is this a wise move from Sony? Wouldn't it just anger customers as they will have just purchased their newest flagship only to be replaced by another 6 month later so that feeling of having the latest Sony phones dies out. By the time one finishes their contract 3 new Sony flagships would have been released, that takes the piss.
I am guessing this would also cause updates to be even slower since they have more models to focus on, or they could just drop the older models which again is sad.
What do you guys think?
I think its important so Sony can become a force to recon with.
In the second half of the year the newer S805 chipset will be out, thus Z3 is a much needed upgrade over Z2 to keep Sony ahead of the competition.
If you look at it, Samsung releases a new flagship every 6 months too, in the form of Galaxy S lineup and Galaxy Note lineup.
Sony has been releasing a flagship or improved variant every six months for years. Count on another this holiday season.
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6 month release cycle is their philosophy for always being able to stay cutting edge and have the latest hardware offerings.
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As long as Sony doesn't skimp on the design and improvements, I think it's great that they release a flagship every 6 months. After all, even if they don't, someone else will release a phone with better specs in that time frame and your phone still won't be top of the line anymore. That's just the way technology works.
Probably a Z Ultra 2
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Fadeless said:
I recently came across a bunch a rumors that Sony plans to release another flagship phone, Z3, in 2014 6 months after the Z2 is released. So basically the same scenario with the Z1 and Z2.
Is this a wise move from Sony? Wouldn't it just anger customers as they will have just purchased their newest flagship only to be replaced by another 6 month later so that feeling of having the latest Sony phones dies out. By the time one finishes their contract 3 new Sony flagships would have been released, that takes the piss.
I am guessing this would also cause updates to be even slower since they have more models to focus on, or they could just drop the older models which again is sad.
What do you guys think?
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they said 6months but didn't mention XZ3!
as year policy they won't release any huge improvements cause XZ1 will remain main flagship for this year.
maybe in CES15 they release something really huge.
But we can be sure about expected specs for that;
no more than 3GB RAM
and in my opinion they will clock cpu on 2.5GHz
display won't be more than 5.2" for smartphone but different design is 100%
and other feature will be just tweaks of current features.
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I guess it's good for Sony to do this but it does make people with their phones feel like crap since they get outdated very fast.
Fadeless said:
I guess it's good for Sony to do this but it does make people with their phones feel like crap since they get outdated very fast.
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Sony needs to do that to capture as much market as it possibly could.
If it means angering a few... lets use the expression "passionate users", over an outdated phone because they have the need to always get the latest and greates - then so be it. This way they can capture people upgrading their contracts both at the beginning of the year - and at the end.
Akiainavas said:
Sony needs to do that to capture as much market as it possibly could.
If it means angering a few... lets use the expression "passionate users", over an outdated phone because they have the need to always get the latest and greates - then so be it. This way they can capture people upgrading their contracts both at the beginning of the year - and at the end.
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I totally agree with the whole idea of "making new flagship device every 6 months". However, with their current distribution strategy, that idea is worthless because consumers don't have access to their devices in a timely manner. This bottleneck is the greatest constraint that prevents them from capturing more market share, especially in US.
Whatever happens with the Z3 i hope Sony learn their bloody lesson and announce and release phones within a 4 week window like HTC and Samsung usually do... not this 2-3 month later bull crap.
@Fadeless
I don't know where you have been but sony is releasing a new flagship every 6 months since the year 2011. the reason or one of the reason for it is because the japanese consumer demands it. anyway, it doesn't really matter since most people buy an expensive phone for a good 3 years or more and you should buy what you like and be happy with your purchase regardless of what is coming in the future.
x102x96x said:
they said 6months but didn't mention XZ3!
as year policy they won't release any huge improvements cause XZ1 will remain main flagship for this year.
maybe in CES15 they release something really huge.
But we can be sure about expected specs for that;
no more than 3GB RAM
and in my opinion they will clock cpu on 2.5GHz
display won't be more than 5.2" for smartphone but different design is 100%
and other feature will be just tweaks of current features.
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what I can confirmed:
2nd generation Omni Balance design
late Sep, 2014
integrated QI
late 2014 will release Z3 compact(4.6“)
macallen said:
what I can confirmed:
2nd generation Omni Balance design
late Sep, 2014
integrated QI
late 2014 will release Z3 compact(4.6“)
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I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32 <-------------- This is a Joke, Right? Minimum acceptable 64GB!
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
They said that they will release another flagship this year and that they won't stick to a single design. So basically it doesn't necessarily have to be Z3... might be X1 or F1 or any other new series with a different design.
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I think the Z3 willl be com with this Changes :
New design
new software
new futures ( Specs. )
memory 16 or 32 <-------------- This is a Joke, Right? Minimum acceptable 64GB!
Battery 3500 - 3600
Qulacomm SD 805
2.5 - 2.7 GHz
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YeeeeeeeeeeeeeS
I don't no why Sony use ( take 16 GB ) from Samsung !
Must take 32 GB
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Hi Guys,
Now I am totally confused, another phone in 3 months that too with superior features than Xperia S !!!
I think I should wait now
Source:
http://www.itproportal.com/2012/03/08/iphone-4s-rival-alert-sony-release-another-superphone-june/
And you just confused even more people.
Or wait 2 years maybe even better phones will show!
If you go by the "Wait til this or this comes" with tech, you will never end up with a new phone I'm afraid.
I'm sure there's a bunch of better phones in the workings at the moment, but I chose this phone (and my X10, and even my X1) because I liked them when they were released, and didn't worry about next months phone.
Out technology is becoming more and more advanced, and company's are naturally trying to 1-up each other, so there will always be "something better coming".
In the end it's your decision though, but I chose to spend the next two years with this fantastic beast of a phone and I don't think I will regret it .
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Or wait 2 years maybe even better phones will show!
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no mate, actually I was just about to buy the xperia S on saturday from the current IT show in Singapore but this article !!!
I know phones will keep coming & I am really not interested in ant other brands..but there are certain things which are holding me:
1. Xperia Arc still looks good, better than Xperia S.
2. Camera also looks similar.
3. No physical buttons on Xperia S.
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no mate, actually I was just about to buy the xperia S on saturday from the current IT show in Singapore but this article !!!
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Hell no, why on earth buy from IT show when the outside shops are selling at 730 SGD???
NEVER buy anyhting from the SG IT show except harddrives and memory. Everything else is RRP.
I think now I will go for recontact, I am eligible for early renewal on 29th march.
Dont wait for this new phone you mentioned, because by the time that comes out something better will be announced and the cycle continues.
The whole reason why Sony fully bought over is to increase the release and production of new models. So I'm really surprised if another superphone will be out soon. They have a lot of catching up to do.
And I just bought my XPS from the IT Show yesterday. It comes with free media dock & the small square android display thingy(can't remember the name since it's at home). =D
I'm the type who usually buy the "other color" for SE phones but after I got the white XPS i kinda regret it. It looks like a toy. =x. So anyone who are going to buy their XPS, make sure you see the unboxed version before you choose your color. Cuz I can't change mine after they unboxed it or me.
PS: And there's an issue if you are using OSX. Cuz it didn't detect my XPS, although it works fine with Arc.
Still loving my Arc.
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Well I just saw that there was indeed a new phone leaked.......
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_mt27i_pepper_shows_up_in_a_press_shot-news-3961.php
The pepper, but I'm not sure if it will be anything special or worth waiting for. This also has no rumored release date so far, but I'm curious about the rest of that line.
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Sony should've kept the Nozomi name instead of Xperia S.
The Xperia tag belongs to Ericsson and the stigma is still attached.
Plus Nozomi sounds badass.
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Well I just saw that there was indeed a new phone leaked.......
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_mt27i_pepper_shows_up_in_a_press_shot-news-3961.php
The pepper, but I'm not sure if it will be anything special or worth waiting for. This also has no rumored release date so far, but I'm curious about the rest of that line.
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This is not the phone people are referring to. They are referring to the Hayabusa LT29.
Hayabusa by June..
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Wait for the one in June...or wait..maybe not...wait for the one in september, but if you really want i would suggest to wait for the one in 2050 because that one will rule them all . Til then i bought this Xperia S magnific smartphone.
Blah blah. All we know - from GSMArena interview - they MAY release something new this year, just because digital world develops very fast. But Xperia S is the flagship and will be for some time. And I don't mean weeks.
Im not so sure about this new superphone coming this year, I believe I read somewhere that they won't release a quad-core this year because its currently not really useful as most apps don't even use dual-core to its full potential. I will see if I can dig up the article The S is the flagship this year and this hayabusa if it comes out is rumored to be the next Xperia play which had that codename. Rumors are rumors
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-might-not-release-quad-core-smartphones-this-year_id27551
If we are lucky, a S4 phone will be released (read play2 or hayabusa), but really I couldn't care less, I am more than happy with my S thank you
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Im not so sure about this new superphone coming this year, I believe I read somewhere that they won't release a quad-core this year because its currently not really useful as most apps don't even use dual-core to its full potential. I will see if I can dig up the article The S is the flagship this year and this hayabusa if it comes out is rumored to be the next Xperia play which had that codename. Rumors are rumors
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-might-not-release-quad-core-smartphones-this-year_id27551
If we are lucky, a S4 phone will be released (read play2 or hayabusa), but really I couldn't care less, I am more than happy with my S thank you
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Hayabusa will definitely resemble last year's product. Just not the PLAY
shmoejoe said:
Im not so sure about this new superphone coming this year, I believe I read somewhere that they won't release a quad-core this year because its currently not really useful as most apps don't even use dual-core to its full potential. I will see if I can dig up the article The S is the flagship this year and this hayabusa if it comes out is rumored to be the next Xperia play which had that codename. Rumors are rumors
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony-might-not-release-quad-core-smartphones-this-year_id27551
If we are lucky, a S4 phone will be released (read play2 or hayabusa), but really I couldn't care less, I am more than happy with my S thank you
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Same here enjoying my Xperia S
Read in a few places the Hayabusa will probably be the successor to the Xperia play, if it is it will have a better screen resolution and probably quality then the PSVita, tho not sure if Sony would want to bring out something to compete with the Vita so soon.
-smc
Yes, no or maybe
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with my heart yes, but with my head NO.
so I guess i'm begging to be a guy with a " head on his shoulders"
Maybe...
I really like the Sony hardware, but the slow update cycles (Jellybean March 2013 - Really?) are making we regret buying the Xperia S. I am seriously thinking of selling it and buying a Nexus 4 instead.
The only thing that might change that decision right now, is an official ASOP Jellybean release by Sony/Google. However the ASOP tree looks dead, with no activity for ages.
Thinking that Sony have thrown in the towel with the XPeria S.
Only if it is a Sony Nexus device as it would probably be the best looking device with fastest and most up to date software.
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No never
Sony stops updates for older devices and expects us to purchase their new models
My xu 2012 released has no announcements regarding jelly bean
Bt that crap Xperia j will b updated
Why? Bcoz it was released recently
drsanket_xperia_u said:
No never
Sony stops updates for older devices and expects us to purchase their new models
My xu 2012 released has no announcements regarding jelly bean
Bt that crap Xperia j will b updated
Why? Bcoz it was released recently
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That's life. Xperia U is an entry level phone, it was released with Gingerbread, and got an ICS update. Show me another manufacturer that bothers to update the base OS on their entry level phones.
I dun consider a phone priced at 16000 to b entry level
Its a mid range
And it was released in may 2012 when all other major manufacturers were shipping wid ics on board
So getting released wid 2.3 was a negative aspect of SONY as this phone was considered to b a NXT phone
So ics was mandatory for it
Bt it got just a single official update ( which logically it should have been shipped wod)
U can call galaxy mini, htc explorer, sony xperia tipo to b entry level as they are priced below 10000INR
@the admins,
When I can't have my Sony love thread due to possible flaming then this thread might not be a good idea either.
@the thread,
My heart is with Sony. My ICS is perfect and when I get JB in the same quality I will buy again.
Another important point for me stays the support of CM. actually that's more important to me than official JB.
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No. This phone has good ideas, but fails in the execution.
ICS for Sola in September 2012. Really? When I brought a new phone, I expected an upgrade, or at least ICS --> ICS. Not ICS --> GB.
Floating touch is, again, a good idea. But it is fairly useless and is impossible to type with.
Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
CrazyPeter said:
Maybe...
I really like the Sony hardware, but the slow update cycles (Jellybean March 2013 - Really?) are making we regret buying the Xperia S. I am seriously thinking of selling it and buying a Nexus 4 instead.
The only thing that might change that decision right now, is an official ASOP Jellybean release by Sony/Google. However the ASOP tree looks dead, with no activity for ages.
Thinking that Sony have thrown in the towel with the XPeria S.
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who said that the JB will appear in march ?
MrBelter said:
Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
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Yes, how much will it cost?
"The 8GB version (unlocked) is priced at $299, while the 16GB version is $349. T-Mobile USA will carry the 16GB LG Nexus 4, though with a price of $199 and a 2-year contract, it doesn't sound like much of a deal.
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Not a chance. I told myself the same thing after my X10 but was foolishly drawn in by the XS (no patience). I will never buy another Sony phone again. Apart from the awful update cycle this phone has become utterly boring and ICS has made it very buggy. You should be able to get £150-200 for this phone so only pay ~£100 on top for the 16Gb Nexus. Can't wait!
Sony always stays a generation behind.
When others release quad core phones it releases dual core.
Besides the buttons if my neo v worn off within three months
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only if they start sticking bigger batteries on their phones.
Sony used to pride itself on battery performance on their portable devices in the 90s, now their phones can hardly match the Battery longevity of a cheapo Chinese brand phone.
They also need to do something about their updates, the galaxy s3 and HTC one x both launched after the s and both are already officially running jelly bean.
They should release 1 or 2 flagships per year and put all their resources to make sure they are kept up to date for at least 1.5 years with no delays pushing out updates.
I think I might get the n4 and see if Sony get their shtt together before supporting them again.
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Yes, how much will it cost?
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UK is £239 for 8GB and £279 for 16GB. My Xperia S cost me £420.
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Given the price of the Nexus 4, not a chance of me buying Sony again.
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Same here
Nexus 4 will beat the hell out of all
nemer12 said:
who said that the JB will appear in march ?
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I was being conservative, it may be later.
The 2012 phones are all still 6 months away from getting Jellybean on them, according to Sony.
For now, AOKP on my S is fine but as soon as the Nexus 4 lands here in Germany, I'll leave Sony for good.
hey guys!
well, as the topic says should i go for Z2 or wait for Z3 as i don't want to lose the flagship title in just couple of months so what do you guys suggest? wont be able to buy Z3 if i bought Z2 and currently i am without any GOOD SMART PHONE (just using a bb curve for the time being).
iAMOA said:
hey guys!
well, as the topic says should i go for Z2 or wait for Z3 as i don't want to lose the flagship title in just couple of months so what do you guys suggest? wont be able to buy Z3 if i bought Z2 and currently i am without any GOOD SMART PHONE (just using a bb curve for the time being).
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It's really up to you if you want to buy the Z2 as of right now. Technology is always going to be moving forward, more so with Sony's 6 month release cycle, and there's always going to be something better in the future. If you keep waiting for the latest and greatest you'll never own a phone . But for the most part the Z2 is looking to be a very promising device, building upon the original Z and addressing most of it's issues. The Z3 might build upon the Z2 but it could also be a new device entirely, with it's own flaws in tow. IMO since you're using a Black Berry Curve, it would be a significant upgrade to get the Z2 and I'm pretty sure you'd be happy with that device . Also it's not like the Z2's hardware will be outdated anytime soon, it's come to the point where software needs to catch up with the hardware in these flagship devices.
Buy a Z2, Z2 will stay a flagship longer than the Z3, since Z3 won't be announced before October.
So, in short, i shall go with Z2. Ok then, Z2 it is. thanks mates.
iAMOA said:
So, in short, i shall go with Z2. Ok then, Z2 it is. thanks mates.
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well Xperia Z was announced in early January 2013,while Z1 in early September & Z2 in late February 2014
So average about only 6 months new flagship
My prediction is Sony will probably announce the Z3 on IFA 2014 or maybe they delayed & announce on CES 2015...
Well, i dont mind z3 at CES 2015 but IFA 2014 is early so thats the issue. I suggest that sony should launch a phablet and then after 6 months a normal sized phone and then phablet like samsung does. As i was a note series user so i never bothered about S series so it was one year cycle for me.
Z1 - $499, Z2 - $699, Z3 - $999. It's really a matter of time?
Ben Ling said:
well Xperia Z was announced in early January 2013,while Z1 in early September & Z2 in late February 2014
So average about only 6 months new flagship
My prediction is Sony will probably announce the Z3 on IFA 2014 or maybe they delayed & announce on CES 2015...
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Actually, what my prediction is that it'll be released alongside Note 4.
Z was announced in 2013 Jan, but came in 2013 March
Z1 was announced in 2013 Oct end, but came by 10th December
Z2 was announced in Feb end and will come by April/May.
The first flagship of the year gets more exposure if you ask me.
For me it looks like that:
Z - buy
Z1 - skip
Z2 - buy
Z3 - skip
Z4 - skip
Z5 - skip
Z6 - buy
Really hope that Z2 will be enough for 2 full years. It has everything I need from a smartphone, and hopefully won't have faults like the Z. If Z had NC, IPS, bigger battery etc. i would probably keep it for at least one more year - because let's be honest - it is still more than enough...
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Actually, what my prediction is that it'll be released alongside Note 4.
Z was announced in 2013 Jan, but came in 2013 March
Z1 was announced in 2013 Oct end, but came by 10th December
Z2 was announced in Feb end and will come by April/May.
The first flagship of the year gets more exposure if you ask me.
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Z1 was unveiled in IFA 2013,that is early September not end of October.
its delayed in UK does it means that it will be delayed in international markets as well?
It will be probably delayed. I think that the beautiful Z2 is so good that it exceeded Sony's expectations with a very wide margin, that's why Sony's delivery of the device will be delayed.
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Delayed here in Australia until mid to late May. That's carrier stock only too. Widespread availability might not be until June...
At which stage you only have 3 months at best before the next model is released.
As good as the phone is, I simply can't support Sony for this reason. Destroys the community ROM base and a 3-4 month lag time for availability is simply unacceptable.
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iAMOA said:
hey guys!
well, as the topic says should i go for Z2 or wait for Z3 as i don't want to lose the flagship title in just couple of months so what do you guys suggest? wont be able to buy Z3 if i bought Z2 and currently i am without any GOOD SMART PHONE (just using a bb curve for the time being).
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no wait for Z4 !!!
how u made up Z3 name! it s confirmed!
anyway u mean next xperia flagship so it s not good question think in this way;
IF u need Flagship SmartPhone so Buy one of the best available smartphone.
if u don't need and just wanna buy and can wait so long... so wait so long...................... cause there s always better phone in future!
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I usually buy a flagship every two years. But ultimately it depends on the depth of your pockets.
lol Yeah, it drives my kids crazy. I'm old and own every coffee table I'll ever need so I can afford to play. In other words I buy a lot of phones based on fun rather than need.
I know you don't want to hear that but I'm going to give you an idea of what your looking at. I have a nexus 5, of the fall devices it was IMO the best of the lot. Outside of network slowdowns the phone never lags. It is always completely fluid. Everything opens so quick I'm pretty sure you could halve the time and I wouldn't be able to tell. I suspect as already stated in many of the first looks this phone is the same way. You are not going to experience a slowdown in the GUI unless its network related and you will be fully satisfied with its performance. This is something that is going to be true with any current flagship phone, flagship phones flat kick ass anymore. The only real question comes down to timing and money filtered through personal need. For someone who already has a decent phone but little money waiting might be a good idea. For someone who can easily afford a new phone waiting isn't going to change much because you cant tell if an app opened in .05 nano seconds instead of .04 nano seconds. I don't know how you rate that BB but your answer lies somewhere in what I just said. You just gotta figure out where you stand.
Really liked you reply mate.
Actually, i have decided to buy z2 but its kind of delayed so waiting for it...
tbh it really depends which design you like.....
it is rumored the Z3 is shifting the design to arc/omni balance.... whether this is true or not, sony is not sticking with just the omni balance design for the Z3.
Previous owner of sony/ericsson phones.... the arc looks nice but i prefer flat backs rather than the arc design. I myself is still wondering whether i should go with the Z2 (which is the last design of its kind) or Z3 which may look sexier and may have a smaller bezel than the Z2.
Better yet, if youre not in a rush, wait for the Z3 to be annouced or wait for the leaks, then decide which one you prefer. By the time Z3 is near the Z2 should be cheap enough to be purchased anyway. Its a win win situation.
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tbh it really depends which design you like.....
it is rumored the Z3 is shifting the design to arc/omni balance.... whether this is true or not, sony is not sticking with just the omni balance design for the Z3.
Previous owner of sony/ericsson phones.... the arc looks nice but i prefer flat backs rather than the arc design. I myself is still wondering whether i should go with the Z2 (which is the last design of its kind) or Z3 which may look sexier and may have a smaller bezel than the Z2.
Better yet, if youre not in a rush, wait for the Z3 to be annouced or wait for the leaks, then decide which one you prefer. By the time Z3 is near the Z2 should be cheap enough to be purchased anyway. Its a win win situation.
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But that would require me to have patience and deferred gratification.
I brought my first smartphone (Galaxy W) when the S2 was released......
I brought my S2 just after the S3 was released......needless to say the phone (if i'd brought it outright) was cheaper than when it was new tech.
As a result, I got an affordable price for my contract.
I FULLY intend to get the Z2, but by the time my contract is up for renewal, the Z2 will probably be at least 1, possibly 2 flagships out of date....it'll be seen as 'old tech' even though it'll definitely be an upgrade to me......it'll also be WAY cheaper than it is now......
For me, a win win situation......
Waiting will also give me a chance to read this forum for a few months and allow me to see what quirks this phone might have before I get it......
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Samsung set to discontinue Galaxy Alpha in favor of cheaper phones
The*Galaxy Alpha*might have been among the best phones Samsung ever produced — it's certainly*the prettiest*— if it weren't for a couple of stumbles: the battery didn't last long enough and its full flagship price forced it to compete against better-rounded rivals. Now, just a few brief months after its introduction, the Alpha is reportedly being supplanted by its successor Galaxy A5, which will take over as the leading Samsung handset for the mid-range market.
ET News*reports that the*Galaxy A5, which launched in China last month, is being brought over to South Korea as part of Samsung's effort to "take the bull by the horns" and*reorganize its slumping smartphone division. The 5-inch A5 is a continuation of the Alpha's design philosophy, emphasizing thinness and higher-quality metal construction, though it opts for a tamer spec sheet that will allow it to be priced at a more competitive 400,000 won (roughly $360). The report states that the A5 will be arriving in Samsung's home country in January or February, while the Galaxy Alpha will be phased out as production ramps down once the current inventory of materials is exhausted.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/29/7459743/samsung-galaxy-alpha-discontinuation-report
too sadly,what worry me is updates
Hope they maintain the updates
Just read the article myself and copied the link and went to XDA to make a post about it. You did it before me.
It pisses me off tho. They finally started making a decent specced phone with a quality feel, somewhat at least. I was hoping they'd continue and perfect it with future models. A5 sounds like a device I would never buy. Specs wise I'm reluctant I bought the Alpha to start with. Exynos is just never good. But the phone itself is decent and I have no battery quirks. That prolly has something to do with me being very introverted and I spend like 2 hours a month on calls.
To me, having a decent community for my phone on XDA is also a huge factor. The problem to me with Samsung will always be their Exynos processors. It makes developing for the device so much harder. Now for the Alpha another problem rises, it will be discontinued so it's limited how many people will ever get their hands on one now since dropped prices and supply will go hand in hand and eventually there will be no more phones. I haven't owned a Samsung phone for years simply because they chose their own noob processor and I returned because of build quality. This was a bad decision from Samsung and I feel like they don't really understand. Making more mid-range devices will not make more sales for them. It never has. I work as an IT administrator and we actually use mid-range Samsung devices. People with iPhones and such report "sluggish" behavior. And all I can say is.. Yeah, when you've tried a decent processor it's hard using a handset that uses some old cheap processor for power. It just wont feel as fluent. Even the common end user will notice that a phone runs sluggish.
It's my last Samsung device (for the time being) and I'm somewhat sad cause the S2 and the Galaxy Nexus was my first two decently specced Androids back in the day when they released. I'm sad that Samsung can't get their act together and decide what they want from their phones. Oh well, I'm just ranting.
All in all I hoped for Samsung to continue the fashion with a nicely specced hanset with below 5 inch screen. Guess all we'll get is the A5 or a bigger S5/6 or a Note. I'm just sick of the hype around big handsets. I have my tablet if I want a big screen for something. iPhone has like 2 models atm. - Why can't Samsung just like kick out a ****ty phone, a nice small phone, and then some beefed up S5/6 and a Note for the people that demands a phone on roids. I don't see why you need so many different handsets. All in all it doesn't matter if you choose a S4 Mini or a Core Plus or a Young or a Neo. They are all horrible old devices and they will not be up to standards. Focus on one of them, give em a touch-up.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Now I'm really worried that this device wont even see half of the dev that happend on the Tab Pro that at least got a CM12 Lollipop release. Sigh.
Merry Christmas guys, and a happy new year.
- @samsung ,you done slipped up again. Make up your mind.
As long as it gets the update to Android 5 I couldn't care less. The Alpha is a beast and I've been very happy with it even coming from an S5. This bad boy has done me just fine, waiting for an S6 with the same quality as the Alpha, Samsung had better deliver or I'll be looking elsewhere to devote my loyalty to.
On the other hand....that is good news....
If sammy stops alpha, it will get a high after-sales value, it will be a rare collectible device,
ofc im happy with it, i do not want my phone to be in everyone's hands
Very sad news , i am very happy with my Alpha and this is Perfect phone.
Just bought it 20 days ago.
Why they want to discontinue
I just ordered the note 4 and it should be here tomorrow. With the new thinner design philosophy the bigger phones don't feel that bad when holding them. The alpha was a nice phone but the lagginess really got to me. I came from the Nexus 5, once you go smooth it's hard to go back to laggy. The note 4's display is just phenomenal to, can't wait to get it. I wish they would have waited a few days to announce this though, now the value on this phone will go down like mad.
I guess it's no surprise since this phone had little impact in the west. I don't think I will ever buy a carrier exclusive phone ever again.
omg i will never buy anything from samsung ever again.I dont know what happening to me first i planned to buy the Z2 then my cousin said Sony is no good buy Samsung,instead I was like okay.Im buying The Alpha even though I never ever like samsung phone but this phone look really good.And now sam**** is doing this to all of us(the alpha's owner) but i hope we still got update from sam**** because in xda there's not alot developer for this phone
ps1:sorry for being rude im really piss of right now
ps2:sorry for my bad English
ps3:I will never buy anything from samsung company again
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dara007_168 said:
omg i will never buy anything from samsung ever again.I dont know what happening to me first i planned to buy the Z2 then my cousin said Sony is no good buy Samsung,instead I was like okay.Im buying The Alpha even though I never ever like samsung phone but this phone look really good.And now sam**** is doing this to all of us(the alpha's owner) but i hope we still got update from sam**** because in xda there's not alot developer for this phone
ps1:sorry for being rude im really piss of right now
ps2:sorry for my bad English
ps3:I will never buy anything from samsung company again
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How RUMORS of samsung starting to stop manufacturing of galaxy Alpha impacts usability of the phone? It seems, that Alpha will have Lollipop update. :fingers-crossed:
I just don't get all the rage coming from you guys. At least in Latvia it seems to be more popular within youth than SGS5. And it is cheaper on contract (monthly fees) than SGS5 or Z3C.... Developers will do their work, just wait. Coming from Galaxy 3 (i5800) I can say that slow progress at the start leads to better community in future, still love that phone .... And yeah, at the end there were like 4-8 real developers (everything started with one guy who made several custom kernels and later ported CM ROMs to Galaxy 3, others came and gone over the years, but each left their impact on development for the device), some themers and few system optimisers, but progress they made TOGETHER for that phone in terms of speed and functionality was huge.
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As long as it gets the update to Android 5 I couldn't care less.
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On the other hand....that is good news....
If sammy stops alpha, it will get a high after-sales value, it will be a rare collectible device,
ofc im happy with it, i do not want my phone to be in everyone's hands
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My thoughts exactly. Android 5 and rare device should give me pretty good price, when I sell this on Q4/15.
will we get lollipop 5.0 update?
goranzdr said:
will we get lollipop 5.0 update?
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Of course
goranzdr said:
will we get lollipop 5.0 update?
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We dont mm know.
Samsung has yet too announce anything.
And to people thinking their phone "rare" your not going to magically make huge profit. The phone is not sought after and its definitely not "rare", it has low production to meet low demand.
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We dont mm know.
Samsung has yet too announce anything.
And to people thinking their phone "rare" your not going to magically make huge profit. The phone is not sought after and its definitely not "rare", it has low production to meet low demand.
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yeah if the phone is rare its's very popular in the past and now it's discontinued or hard to buy. But this alpha is defferent i mean this phne is good at design and specs but price is abit high i think,no one really use it so it's not rare at all.Over all i love this phone but not Samsung.
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This is bad news Lollipop update ok, but what's next? If Alpha will discounted after Lollipop we can flash CM or other custom ROMs, but they will not support heart rate monitor, LTE-A and fingerprint scanner.
Of course, this is a small sacrifice for newest software. But I would not want to lose these functions
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This is bad news Lollipop update ok, but what's next? If Alpha will discounted after Lollipop we can flash CM or other custom ROMs, but they will not support heart rate monitor, LTE-A and fingerprint scanner.
Of course, this is a small sacrifice for newest software. But I would not want to lose these functions
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Well it's not like Google is going to release something huge as lollipop in 1-2 years so wouldn't expect Samsung to support newer androids than that either.
If you want good android version support, you bought a very wrong device.
Ranking:
Best support = nexus devices. (and google versions)
Second best = flagships, like s5, with qualcomm chipset.
Third = other qualcomm chipset devices
Fourth = flagships with Exynos chipset (example our device)
Fifth = other Exynos chipset devices.
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Well it's not like Google is going to release something huge as lollipop in 1-2 years so wouldn't expect Samsung to support newer androids than that either.
If you want good android version support, you both a very wrong device.
Ranking:
Best support = nexus devices. (and google versions)
Second best = flagships, like s5, with qualcomm chipset.
Third = other qualcomm chipset devices
Fourth = flagships with Exynos chipset (example our device)
Fifth = other Exynos chipset devices.
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Exynos 5430 is much better than s801 or may be s805 .
i have compared my Alpha with with friend's Xperia z3 , htc m8 , and all i can say is my is faster ,
i have compared loading time of Asphalt 8 , Brother in arms 3 , Gangstar vegas, modern combat 5 and all i can say is its loading faster on mine , s801 is no where nearer .
Also in multitasking , i found my Alpha more responsive , Fluid .
i never liked Nexus devices , used nexus 5 for 10 days , and ditched that Garbage looking and garbage feeling Stock android , and its having Zero functionality compared to our Alpha , if new Nexus 6 is For even 300 $ , still i will not get it :silly:
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Exynos 5430 is much better than s801 or may be s805 .
i have compared my Alpha with with friend's Xperia z3 , htc m8 , and all i can say is my is faster ,
i have compared loading time of Asphalt 8 , Brother in arms 3 , Gangstar vegas, modern combat 5 and all i can say is its loading faster on mine , s801 is no where nearer .
Also in multitasking , i found my Alpha more responsive , Fluid .
i never liked Nexus devices , used nexus 5 for 10 days , and ditched that Garbage looking and garbage feeling Stock android , and its having Zero functionality compared to our Alpha , if new Nexus 6 is For even 300 $ , still i will not get it :silly:
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I didn't say anything about performance, my list is only about android version support and how easily the devices get custom roms. Read before posting
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If you want good android version support, you bought a very wrong device.
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Fourth = flagships with Exynos chipset (example our device)
Fifth = other Exynos chipset devices.
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For example Note II with Exynos was released in 2012 and get Lollipop update in 2015. Samsung complies with the terms of updates (Google says about 18 month of updates). If Alpha will recieve update in spring-2016 - this good, but I'm afraid that because of the discontinue that will not happen.
I do not want something fantastic, do not want the latest software among the first. I just want to support. I want a new smartphone does not forget
anyone else looked at this phone? seems like a decent replacement and not too small.
if not, what else are people moving onto?
given up on sony releasing
I'm just looking at nexus, blackberry if the rumors is true that they will move on to android, or the classic HTC.
HTC is probably the manufacturer you can't go wrong with. If you look at this part of the XDA forum..its filled with devs making roms and kernels.
I think s810 is just temporarily. Maybe next year there will be a new series of soc that won't overheat as this years release.
Its just the same as with the tegra 3. You could fry eggs on it. But HTC moved on and improved their devices. And I hope they will release another beast in the near future.
Huawei is enlarging their market on mobile devices but I think its to early to invest in one of those devices. I want there to be devs who makes roms so I don't have to rely only on the stock rom/firmware to work when something goes wrong. If that ever happens...who knows.
Samsung is a no go. They don't exist in my world. Last and only device I owned was the SII Exynos 4210. They make good electronics elsewhere but not mobile devices.
LG is also a no go. Only nexus. To much plastic, big LG logo and weird cheap looking software interface on stock rom. Reminds me of MIUI and Huawei.
SONY is moving from europe home to japan. Okay...weird. So then I just won't buy your stuff then. Bye..I will never buy a sony mobile device again.
When "I" am buying a device. I am only buying the flagships. Because I am looking for an investment that will last for many years and won't seem slow even after four years compared to newer devices. And also the general lifetime of the device. I want there to be devs here on the forum that I can rely on after device has reached the end-of-lifetime.
The Z ultra is a bit special. It has the same hardware specs as its brother Z1....so for performance I would still call this a kind of side show flagship despite the low spec camera.
i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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i'#d be ok with sony if they would release an ultra 2 but it's too late now.
samsung, i liked until the whole locking SIMs to europe only or whatever around the time of the note 3 i tink, maybe 4.
moto x is brand new but there's some people on the board already. once it shows as rooted i'll jump on there. it's cheap as well actually. well cheaper than the ultra was when i bought it
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I don't have any experience of motorola exept for the old classic pagers and radios. I've never seen a moto x in real life so I don't really have any opinion. Its offered at a good price yes! but yeah I really dunno. The only con I can see is the tiny battery at 2300mAh.
From what I can see its almost like some mix to a budget nexus device..almost stock rom and no bloat apps. :good:
Me myself is waiting to see what google has to offer. There is already a bunch of pics of the new nexus devices but I'm curiously waiting for the release event
3000 for the style no?
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3000 for the style no?
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oops ....I probably looked at the older model. You're right its 3000mAh!
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_x_style-7229.php
Then it looks alright!
gave me a scare there for a sec