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I need some recommendations on which ROM is good for playing video files without lag.
Any/all froyo roms. Go to my website in signature.
Also, this type of thing definitely belongs in Q&A or general.
I have yet to find a ROM that will allow me to use Google talk video >.< im so frustrated I want to sell my Gtab
Benduchi said:
I have yet to find a ROM that will allow me to use Google talk video >.< im so frustrated I want to sell my Gtab
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Works on android > 2.3.4 (Gingerbread). Our camera does not work properly above froyo.
Hang in there. ICS should be ready soon for our device. While the camera is not being worked on yet it sounds like we have the information and it may be possible to get it working once we have a stable ROM released.
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I have yet to find a ROM that will allow me to use Google talk video >.< im so frustrated I want to sell my Gtab
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I was feeling the same as you and I finally sold mine about two weeks ago. Bought a Xoom refurbished for $350 on Amazon and I have never been happier. Xoom just got ICS and it is amazingly fast. My advice: Make the jump to a serious tablet.
i have a gtab and now a transformer. i found a thread in the transformer forums that gives you all the handbrake settings to make 720p videos for the transformer. they work on the gtab using the stock video app with no lag. the only deviation i did was limit file size to 1.2 gigs. still looks very good. also did tron legacy as 2.5 gig and it plays great. looks good too.
gtab is running frankentab 1.0.9 fyi
Dave
Hey guys,
I've looked all over the forum here and haven't definitively been able to pinpoint the best ROM for Flash Player support. I was hoping to get some ideas for my Gtablet.
Thanks!
P.S. I need this for work so it's pretty important. Thanks again
C&C Combo V6 works pretty well with Flash. I haven't come across anything other than some bloated Facebook games that it has trouble handling. For what it's worth, those same games can make my netbook and desktop struggle now and then.
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C&C Combo V6 works pretty well with Flash. I haven't come across anything other than some bloated Facebook games that it has trouble handling. For what it's worth, those same games can make my netbook and desktop struggle now and then.
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Thanks man..I'm really just after Flash video for work applications.
hello to all apologize if posting this in the wrong place, and sorry for my english google translator.
I am very close to buying a touchpad but I'm unsure whether to buy it or kindlefire, even if you think a player no longer manufactured there will still be many hacks, and developing roms for it?
ICS will be possible on the touchpad, there are many people developing for it?
I thank all
Well this can do all a kindle but kindle can't do all this can. While we have some issues with drivers, over time it will be fixed and yes, will have ics. Kindle can't have WEBOS now...
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The kindle is garbage. If you want to see the wonders of the Touchpad, check out my videos:
http://www.youtube.com/user/reverendkjr?feature=mhee
The Touchpad is definitely better hardware wise. You are getting a 9.7" screen (same size as the ipad) instead of only a 7" one. You also get a full GB of RAM on the Touchpad instead of only 512MB. My phone has the same CPU and GPU that the Kindle Fire does and on GTA 3 there is some lagging. On my Touchpad with CM7 the game is smooth.
ok thank you all, I'm convinced to buy the touchpad, but only one question to those who already have it, all games and applications to run on android Cyanogen mod? there are still some compatibility issues.
And it is possible for easy installation of the dual bot WEB OS and android I liked the interface of the Web OS, did not want to be without him, and he accepts some sort of memory card? these are still my doubts
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ok thank you all, I'm convinced to buy the touchpad, but only one question to those who already have it, all games and applications to run on android Cyanogen mod? there are still some compatibility issues.
And it is possible for easy installation of the dual bot WEB OS and android I liked the interface of the Web OS, did not want to be without him, and he accepts some sort of memory card? these are still my doubts
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The only way to install android is dual boot with webOS. You cannot remove webOS.
The TouchPad has no expansion slot. You can use a USB flash drive with a janky set up using a USB on the go adapter, USB y splitter, and USB power source. So, basically you are stuck with what ever version you get, 16gb or 32gb.
I greatly prefer webOS, so I don't spend much time in android ... Until there is a tablet version of android available. I have not had any compatibility issues with the few apps I have installed.
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ok thank you all, I'm convinced to buy the touchpad, but only one question to those who already have it, all games and applications to run on android Cyanogen mod? there are still some compatibility issues.
And it is possible for easy installation of the dual bot WEB OS and android I liked the interface of the Web OS, did not want to be without him, and he accepts some sort of memory card? these are still my doubts
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as long as your fairly tech savvy, i would go with the TP. The only thing that would worry me if i were you, is the tutorials are all written in english so that may make things tougher. o ya, and good luck finding one unless your looking for a used (and maybe overpriced) touchpad.
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as long as your fairly tech savvy, i would go with the TP. The only thing that would worry me if i were you, is the tutorials are all written in english so that may make things tougher. o ya, and good luck finding one unless your looking for a used (and maybe overpriced) touchpad.
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I have read and understood the tutorials I've done some installations of Cyanogen on other devices, then I am completely noob, and my reading of good English and have a greater problem with writing.
I'm buying it right now, here I pay 800 reais to 425 dolares worth in the 32GB version, I know it is expensive compared to prices here in Brazil over U.S. prices are still absurd tablets.
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The kindle is garbage.
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Couldn't agree with you more. I own two regular e-Ink Kindles.
They are very enjoyable to use for what they're designed for: reading
books.
Out of curiosity, I pre-ordered the Kindle Fire. When it arrived, I was
very hopeful. Unfortunately, it turned out to be a piece of *******(sorry)
It's just not ready for prime time.
I currently have XRON's Android on my Touchpad and I am extremely
happy with it. (until ICS comes along, of course )
Read Leo's thread it has all you need to know. I never flashed a Rom before and have been using his for a month with great results. Just follow the instructions.
Want your WiFi to work correctly?
Kindle fire
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there is some evolution in Cyanogen 9 for the touchpad?
Hey guys, so I can land an excellent condition 16gb Touchpad for $160 today if I decide to. My question is, should I?
Just some quick background, my girlfriend has the original iPad which I have access to. I have a HTC Rezound phone that I have rooted. I would most definitely be buying this to root and just have a device that is bigger than my phone when I want to watch YouTube videos, surf the net while on the couch, play some games, etc.
I see that CM7 and CM9 is compatible with the Touchpad. I also see that CM9 renders the device not fully functional (mic, camera). I honestly would rarely use the mic or camera, so it's no biggie there. My question however is how the device other than those things functions with CM9? Is it a smooth experience? Does everything else pretty much work? Will CM9 get to a point where everything works great?
I just want to see if I should buy this or another budget tablet like the Fire or any upcoming ones.
Any advice would be great, thanks!
I recommend going for it if you want a tablet. I just got mine a week ago and I dont even pick up my phone anymore. Both webOS and CM9 on the Touchpad are super smooth. Yes, the mic and camera dont work but, like you, I dont need those. Android on the Touchpad is fairly new and with all the popularity its been getting lately, the CyanogenMod team has made it official on their site so the development for it wont be done anytime soon.
As far as webOS, I love that OS as well. Its just a shame there isnt as much development for it as of right now. But the OS is going open source so hopefully that will get some development going on it. Its really nice to dual boot both operating systems though and have a choice.
I dont think you would regret it though. I bought the 32GB version though since I knew I was going to install android on it. You might want to see if others say 16GB is enough for putting Android on it.
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I recommend going for it if you want a tablet. I just got mine a week ago and I dont even pick up my phone anymore. Both webOS and CM9 on the Touchpad are super smooth. Yes, the mic and camera dont work but, like you, I dont need those. Android on the Touchpad is fairly new and with all the popularity its been getting lately, the CyanogenMod team has made it official on their site so the development for it wont be done anytime soon.
As far as webOS, I love that OS as well. Its just a shame there isnt as much development for it as of right now. But the OS is going open source so hopefully that will get some development going on it. Its really nice to dual boot both operating systems though and have a choice.
I dont think you would regret it though. I bought the 32GB version though since I knew I was going to install android on it. You might want to see if others say 16GB is enough for putting Android on it.
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Thanks a lot for the response! Yeah, I think I am going to pull the trigger on it.
Hmm, I didn't really think about if Android would fit on the 16gb, but I would find it hard to believe if it didn't. But you're right, can anyone else chime in about that?
Thanks!
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Thanks a lot for the response! Yeah, I think I am going to pull the trigger on it.
Hmm, I didn't really think about if Android would fit on the 16gb, but I would find it hard to believe if it didn't. But you're right, can anyone else chime in about that?
Thanks!
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It will for sure fit. But that leaves less room for other stuff you put on it. I currently am down to 20 gigs left out of 32. But I have game roms and game data on there too.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I can land an excellent condition 16gb Touchpad for $160 today if I decide to. My question is, should I?
Just some quick background, my girlfriend has the original iPad which I have access to. I have a HTC Rezound phone that I have rooted. I would most definitely be buying this to root and just have a device that is bigger than my phone when I want to watch YouTube videos, surf the net while on the couch, play some games, etc.
I see that CM7 and CM9 is compatible with the Touchpad. I also see that CM9 renders the device not fully functional (mic, camera). I honestly would rarely use the mic or camera, so it's no biggie there. My question however is how the device other than those things functions with CM9? Is it a smooth experience? Does everything else pretty much work? Will CM9 get to a point where everything works great?
I just want to see if I should buy this or another budget tablet like the Fire or any upcoming ones.
Any advice would be great, thanks!
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Go for it! You'll have a dual boot tablet. You'll find that webos is a great os. Battery life is great and you can always switch to android when needed. Even though android is Alpha now, it works great. You won't regret it.
I think 16 is plenty for my use. Like you I generally web browse, YouTube, etc. I really don't store any content on my device. I have all the apps I could want, on Android and webOS. Here is a screenshot of the storage menu - 820 MB of 1.46 GB left for apps, 7.79GB left of 10.75GB for storage. The device is partitioned when you install Android, so you do lose about 3 GB. But when do you even really get the amount advertised?
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Hey guys, so I can land an excellent condition 16gb Touchpad for $160 today if I decide to. My question is, should I?
Just some quick background, my girlfriend has the original iPad which I have access to. I have a HTC Rezound phone that I have rooted. I would most definitely be buying this to root and just have a device that is bigger than my phone when I want to watch YouTube videos, surf the net while on the couch, play some games, etc.
I see that CM7 and CM9 is compatible with the Touchpad. I also see that CM9 renders the device not fully functional (mic, camera). I honestly would rarely use the mic or camera, so it's no biggie there. My question however is how the device other than those things functions with CM9? Is it a smooth experience? Does everything else pretty much work? Will CM9 get to a point where everything works great?
I just want to see if I should buy this or another budget tablet like the Fire or any upcoming ones.
Any advice would be great, thanks!
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This just posted about an hour before your thread.
But edit...never mind.
Hey fellow rezounder. I had the touchpad since the firesale. Never used it really. I recently had a slow weekend so I threw cm9 on that beast. Now I use it every day. Webos is great but there just aren't any apps.
Cm9 is awesome. Everything you need is working. I even usesd titanium backup to restore all my apps from my rezound to the touchpad. I just bought the touchstone charging dock last night. I'm addicted to the touchpad again!
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I'm currently running CM9 on my 16 gb Touchpad and haven't run into a shortage. Even with quite a bit of media content (Several movies, a TV series) I still have room to spare.
For your lighter usage I think you will have no problems with the 16gb version.
Get it... You get a good dual core and 1 gb ram tablet for a very cheap price. I use it more often than my brand new laptop for games, surfing, youtube, schools pdfs etc. 16 gb is big enough for tons of apps and stuff.
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I'm currently running CM9 on my 16 gb Touchpad and haven't run into a shortage. Even with quite a bit of media content (Several movies, a TV series) I still have room to spare.
For your lighter usage I think you will have no problems with the 16gb version.
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I concur. Heck, I torrent and then drop my stuff on my WII; right from my touchpad. Our computer (with 5 hard drives) barely gets turned on anymore.
it's a beat and does everything I want and more.
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I have a 16GB touchpad, and pairing it with a bluetooth keyboard its replaced my laptop as my go-to machine while out of the house. I take all my class notes and write drafts of papers using it, and its been very solid in terms of reliability. It does sometimes reboot by itself, but I've noticed it only happens after idling for a while and never while actually using it.
Storage isnt a big issue for me, after installing Android the SD card has about 10.5GB free which is plenty as long as you dont put a lot of music or video on it.
I'd say go for it. Its an absolutely amazing tablet for the price and with a dev community that's only going to grow as CM9 gets out of alpha.
Thanks so much for all of the responses guys! I ended up pulling the trigger on a 16gb one last night for $160 from a local Craigslist deal. It came in the original box with all of the original cables and paperwork. Everything is in brand new, mint condition! I was stoked.
The guy had no clue that you could even install Android on it. He said he was getting rid of it because it didn't have "all of the good iPad apps". LOL.
Anyways, his loss, my gain. I threw CM9 on it with ease last night and let me tell you, I am super happy with the purchase! This tablet is a steal for the price I paid.
Just a quick question, on webOS can you place shortcuts and such on the homescreen? I couldn't figure out how to do it.
Thanks!
WizeGuyDezignz said:
Thanks so much for all of the responses guys! I ended up pulling the trigger on a 16gb one last night for $160 from a local Craigslist deal. It came in the original box with all of the original cables and paperwork. Everything is in brand new, mint condition! I was stoked.
The guy had no clue that you could even install Android on it. He said he was getting rid of it because it didn't have "all of the good iPad apps". LOL.
Anyways, his loss, my gain. I threw CM9 on it with ease last night and let me tell you, I am super happy with the purchase! This tablet is a steal for the price I paid.
Just a quick question, on webOS can you place shortcuts and such on the homescreen? I couldn't figure out how to do it.
Thanks!
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You can drag icons from the drawer to the dock. That's it, there's no "desktop" in webOS.
I like a clean desktop and getting to my apps in webos is not a problem. I do have ICS installed and like the dual boot option but WebOs is so smooth that I really prefer it.
BigBadWolf84 said:
I like a clean desktop and getting to my apps in webos is not a problem. I do have ICS installed and like the dual boot option but WebOs is so smooth that I really prefer it.
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Do a search for cornerstone. I can't believe its running so flawlessly on my device. You won't regret it.
HP Touch pad cm9 and cornerstone
Hi,
I currently own a Touch pad running Cyanogen Mod, Version 4.2.2 which I installed in 2013.
I'm confused about upgrading as their is many ROMS to choose from.
Can someone recommend me a stable rom with the latest version on android available for the touchpad, something that has everything working.
preve83 said:
Hi,
I currently own a Touch pad running Cyanogen Mod, Version 4.2.2 which I installed in 2013.
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A lot changed since 2013.
preve83 said:
I'm confused about upgrading as their is many ROMS to choose from.
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Does the Tablet has WebOS, or only Android?
New ROMS requires the system partition to be larger.
preve83 said:
Can someone recommend me a stable rom with the latest version on android available for the touchpad, something that has everything working.
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A ROM that all works, Bluetooth, Stable Wifi and camera is:
Evervolv 7.1.2 Android Nougat
My recommendation is to set the system partition to allow the installation of newer ROMS. Then any Android version can be flash until 9.
The Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with _Swap
Can be flash and will take care of everything, follow this guide, it also provides all the links to all ROMS.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...all-android-roms-with-swap-partition.3901773/
Any ROM can be flash ( install ), just wipe everything using TWRP 3.2 download zip files, copy to tablet and flash.
@HP_TOUCHPAD , Hello, I still can't believe we have support for the touch pad....
I flashed Evervolv 7.1.2 in my 1gb rab (black touchpad) and it didn't work quite well, it would often crash and every app would either become slow and unresponsive or simply crash..
The ram in my tp is just around some 830 mb and I noticed that the OS would use up as much as 220 to 250 mb. The touch pad was dead a long ago and I revived it back today, and I am planning to delete the Evervolv ROM and flash something else that wouldn't stuck or crash a lot, I only want to use it for Youtube and google searches(if not google app, maybe at least internet browsing using a browser).
What rom would you recommend that's not floppy and laggy and at the same time the one that can support Youtube and Internet browser ?
Now I know you said use the Evervolv 7.1.2, but I think I have either missed something while I was flashing or I downloaded an experimental rom, the Touchpad would literally become unresponsive to the touch(well ironically it's named "touchpad"), and a lot of times just drain the battery.
And, Yes I still have the web OS with the Evervolv9it was my first time flashing a rom so I let the Web OS stay as a fail safe, coz I was 15 when I first flashed a custom rom to the touchpad).
I just want to give it to my mom, so I want it to work smooth and stable(more importantly, I just want it to run youtube in a stable and smooth state)....
LN11211 said:
@HP_TOUCHPAD , Hello, I still can't believe we have support for the touch pad....
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I can not believe that my original touchpad from the fire sale still has a battery capacity as NEW, that one I do not use much. But I have others that do specially as a music player, yes is louD ! Best device that I will ever have.
LN11211 said:
I flashed Evervolv 7.1.2 in my 1gb rab (black touchpad) and it didn't work quite well, it would often crash and every app would either become slow and unresponsive or simply crash..
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Did you get the ROM from this guide?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...all-android-roms-with-swap-partition.3901773/
You are using WebOS, there is no need to do the Automatic Wipe All.
A lot has changed since 2011, is 2021 now and all ROMs have more memory up to the full 1GB and the highest CPU frequency.
LN11211 said:
The ram in my tp is just around some 830 mb and I noticed that the OS would use up as much as 220 to 250 mb. The touch pad was dead a long ago and I revived it back today, and I am planning to delete the Evervolv ROM and flash something else that wouldn't stuck or crash a lot, I only want to use it for Youtube and google searches(if not google app, maybe at least internet browsing using a browser).
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Dead long ago and it came back, it almost sound as the new Messiah that everyone has been waiting for !
It all depends on the kernel version, the MaXtreme 1836 is the fastest with more RAM.
There are other alternatives to youtube and the best browser to use is : https://www.bromite.org/
youtube alternatives apps.
LN11211 said:
What rom would you recommend that's not floppy and laggy and at the same time the one that can support Youtube and Internet browser ?
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Evervolv 7.1.2, ( it all depends on the Kernel version that is use ) Do not use it with the original kernel, look at the guide of the different options.
LN11211 said:
Now I know you said use the Evervolv 7.1.2, but I think I have either missed something while I was flashing or I downloaded an experimental rom, the Touchpad would literally become unresponsive to the touch(well ironically it's named "touchpad"), and a lot of times just drain the battery.
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If that battery was not in use for a long time, it may actually have less capacity left.
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And, Yes I still have the web OS with the Evervolv9it was my first time flashing a rom so I let the Web OS stay as a fail safe, coz I was 15 when I first flashed a custom rom to the touchpad).
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Flashing is now done with TWRP 3.2 and all ROMs can be flash easily, working 100% all the time.
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I just want to give it to my mom, so I want it to work smooth and stable(more importantly, I just want it to run youtube in a stable and smooth state)....
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The HP Touchpad works perfectly as a streaming device, either for music or video. But there are ways to set it up to get the most out of it that will allow it to perform. It can not be compare to an actual device in performance or user experience.
Is a device that can be fully customized to fit your specific needs. Flashing the ROM properly with the best kernel option is as important as the type of Apps. The Android options are too many and the user needs to experiment on it's own.
I also have a Touchpad with 4.2.2. that I installed on it and I'm wondering if there's any advantage of upgrading to another newer rom. The main issue here is this device is old and not very fast and so maybe its best to keep it on 4.2.2, unless someone can tell me that a newer rom would make this faster. New features in newer roms don't matter much if the speed becomes slower and if the OS takes more RAM etc. On top of that some people are reporting issues with the stability of a newer rom (change the kernel or not).
It doesn't look like its possible to have a stable rom that is newer and has more features and provides us a faster user interface.
So.... does any one know of any advantages of using a newer ROM on this device?
alan-31 said:
I also have a Touchpad with 4.2.2. that I installed on it and I'm wondering if there's any advantage of upgrading to another newer rom.
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Android 4.2.2 is no longer supported by google. With a never ROM everything works, the ones that supports all the hardware is evervolv 7.1.2.
alan-31 said:
The main issue here is this device is old and not very fast and so maybe its best to keep it on 4.2.2, unless someone can tell me that a newer rom would make this faster.
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Yes it is an old device, but what matters are the settings and how is been use.
With the settings from this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...all-android-roms-with-swap-partition.3901773/
The cpu can be set in all the ROMs up to 1836 ( that is for each core ). All the ROM RAM is optimized to use almost the full 1GB, versus the original that can only use a little over 800 MB.
What makes the Tablet slow are the google services ( play store ).
The tablet can be use with no gapps and set up to use bromite, newpipe and many other googles alternatives.
alan-31 said:
New features in newer roms don't matter much if the speed becomes slower and if the OS takes more RAM etc.
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The features are provided by the hardware which is the same for all the ROMs, WiFi, Bluetooth, sound and camera.
New Android version use more RAM only if the play store is use, and the speed can be set the same to all the ROM.
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On top of that some people are reporting issues with the stability of a newer rom (change the kernel or not).
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All ROM posted on the mentioned guide are 100 % stable if the kernels use are the one listed.
Stability issues are due to users installing optimizing Apps to make things faster, which takes more RAM and create problems.
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It doesn't look like its possible to have a stable rom that is newer and has more features and provides us a faster user interface.
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Yes all ROMs are stable, Wifi works better until 7.1.2, it works on 8 and 9 but may not reconnect, but al depends on the user router.
alan-31 said:
So.... does any one know of any advantages of using a newer ROM on this device?
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A newer ROM provides support from google and all new apps can be use. This has always been the same with all PC operating system, a 10 year old OS is not supported any longer and even a basic web browser will not work.
The same will happen when google stops supporting Android PIE, no more apps will run one it not even a web browser.
That could probably happen 10 years from now or sooner, by then the tablet could only be use as a local media player, for music, video or pictures.
Example: https://www.bromite.org/ The best full browser to use on the tablet with no need of the play store.
But it can only be use on Android Lollipop 5.0 and above (SDK21)
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
Android 4.2.2 is no longer supported by google. With a never ROM everything works, the ones that supports all the hardware is evervolv 7.1.2.
Yes it is an old device, but what matters are the settings and how is been use.
With the settings from this guide: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...all-android-roms-with-swap-partition.3901773/
The cpu can be set in all the ROMs up to 1836 ( that is for each core ). All the ROM RAM is optimized to use almost the full 1GB, versus the original that can only use a little over 800 MB.
What makes the Tablet slow are the google services ( play store ).
The tablet can be use with no gapps and set up to use bromite, newpipe and many other googles alternatives.
The features are provided by the hardware which is the same for all the ROMs, WiFi, Bluetooth, sound and camera.
New Android version use more RAM only if the play store is use, and the speed can be set the same to all the ROM.
All ROM posted on the mentioned guide are 100 % stable if the kernels use are the one listed.
Stability issues are due to users installing optimizing Apps to make things faster, which takes more RAM and create problems.
Yes all ROMs are stable, Wifi works better until 7.1.2, it works on 8 and 9 but may not reconnect, but al depends on the user router.
A newer ROM provides support from google and all new apps can be use. This has always been the same with all PC operating system, a 10 year old OS is not supported any longer and even a basic web browser will not work.
The same will happen when google stops supporting Android PIE, no more apps will run one it not even a web browser.
That could probably happen 10 years from now or sooner, by then the tablet could only be use as a local media player, for music, video or pictures.
Example: https://www.bromite.org/ The best full browser to use on the tablet with no need of the play store.
But it can only be use on Android Lollipop 5.0 and above (SDK21)
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Some of this is just wrong. Yes, 4.4 isn't supported. But that doesn't mean you can't use it. YouTube v14 will run fine, so will NewPipe. You can use Google Chrome 80-something, and that works perfectly fine for browsing the web, it's still new enough to render almost everything properly. Bromite of that same version should work as well on 4.4. You can also use Yalp Store instead of Aurora to use 4.4 without Gapps. If apps are unsupported, you could download old versions from apkmirror, they usually still work fine, even the internet based ones.
Sanras said:
Some of this is just wrong. Yes, 4.4 isn't supported. But that doesn't mean you can't use it.
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What makes a device to be functional is the Operating System. That is the reason we are in the XDA Web Site forum and not HP or WebOS. The Tablet can be use even with WebOS and many still do because they do not want to upgrade.
You can use it any way you want it, but is not the optimal or best way to get the full functionality that it can offer.
Sanras said:
YouTube v14 will run fine, so will NewPipe. You can use Google Chrome 80-something, and that works perfectly fine for browsing the web, it's still new enough to render almost everything properly. Bromite of that same version should work as well on 4.4. You can also use Yalp Store instead of Aurora to use 4.4 without Gapps. If apps are unsupported, you could download old versions from apkmirror, they usually still work fine, even the internet based ones.
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Why try to work with old software when new ones are available and works perfectly with the Tablet?
On the news today, January 4 of 2022:
https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/support/devices/end-of-life
BlackBerry 7.1 OS and earlier, BlackBerry 10 software, BlackBerry PlayBook OS 2.1 and earlier versions, will no longer be available after January 4, 2022. As of this date, devices running these legacy services and software through either carrier or Wi-Fi connections will no longer reliably function, including for data, phone calls, SMS and 9-1-1 functionality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_10
On 14 May 2013 BlackBerry OS 10.1 was launched.
The HP Touchpad was released July 1, 2011 (WebOS), is two years older than the BlackBerry released in 2013.
The HP Touchpad is 100% functional, due to the great job of many developers that got Android on it.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
What makes a device to be functional is the Operating System. That is the reason we are in the XDA Web Site forum and not HP or WebOS. The Tablet can be use even with WebOS and many still do because they do not want to upgrade.
You can use it any way you want it, but is not the optimal or best way to get the full functionality that it can offer.
Why try to work with old software when new ones are available and works perfectly with the Tablet?
On the news today, January 4 of 2022:
https://www.blackberry.com/us/en/support/devices/end-of-life
BlackBerry 7.1 OS and earlier, BlackBerry 10 software, BlackBerry PlayBook OS 2.1 and earlier versions, will no longer be available after January 4, 2022. As of this date, devices running these legacy services and software through either carrier or Wi-Fi connections will no longer reliably function, including for data, phone calls, SMS and 9-1-1 functionality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry_10
On 14 May 2013 BlackBerry OS 10.1 was launched.
The HP Touchpad was released July 1, 2011 (WebOS), is two years older than the BlackBerry released in 2013.
The HP Touchpad is 100% functional, due to the great job of many developers that got Android on it.
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4.x Android is simply faster than Android 7.1. That's why you would bother with using old builds of software on an outdated OS. No matter how optimized it is, or how much you overclock it, 7.1 will always be a heavier OS than 4.4. I've seen it before, and on low end devices, that speed difference really matters.
Essentially newer OS means more reliable apps, but worse performance.
Older OS = better performance, worse apps.
It all depends on what you prefer. For me, so long as that old OS is useable enough, I prefer the outdated but fast OS over the fully useable slow one.
Let's take another example: Say you have one laptop to use in 2022. You've got a netbook with a 1.6Ghz Intel Atom n280, and 1GB of RAM.
You *could* technically run Windows 10 on here if you wanted to. The hardware technically supports it. But is it a good idea? No, not at all. It's gonna be extremely slow and annoying to use. I'd rather run Windows XP on such a device, use Firefox 52.9ESR and deal with some broken webpages than use Windows 10 and a modern browser. At least with XP you're gonna have a fast and snappy computer, even if you have to use some old apps to get things done.
(Of course, this is hypothetical. The true best choice in this situation would be a Linux install with a simple X11 window manager or Windows 7 without transparency effects)
Sanras said:
4.x Android is simply faster than Android 7.1. That's why you would bother with using old builds of software on an outdated OS. No matter how optimized it is, or how much you overclock it, 7.1 will always be a heavier OS than 4.4. I've seen it before, and on low end devices, that speed difference really matters.
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No, Android 4.x uses an old kernel, Android 7.1 and newer are built with a newer kernel providing better support for the hardware and software.
Android is not the native operating system for the Tablet, earlier version of Android had issues than with the time was improve.
Sanras said:
Essentially newer OS means more reliable apps, but worse performance.
Older OS = better performance, worse apps.
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It all depends on the settings and how is set up, but newer OS provides better support. Software is what makes the hardware to work.
Devices are not mechanical machines that works on the principal of physical parts, but works on code, software.
Sanras said:
It all depends on what you prefer. For me, so long as that old OS is useable enough, I prefer the outdated but fast OS over the fully useable slow one.
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Check this guide and see that all ROMs have the same settings, optimized to use the full 1GB of RAM and CPU speed plus swap partition.
Any original ( stock ) Android ROM can not provide the same settings even if the user try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-max-1gb-ram-max-1836-frequency-for-all-roms.3973149/
Sanras said:
Let's take another example: Say you have one laptop to use in 2022. You've got a netbook with a 1.6Ghz Intel Atom n280, and 1GB of RAM.
You *could* technically run Windows 10 on here if you wanted to. The hardware technically supports it. But is it a good idea? No, not at all. It's gonna be extremely slow and annoying to use. I'd rather run Windows XP on such a device, use Firefox 52.9ESR and deal with some broken webpages than use Windows 10 and a modern browser. At least with XP you're gonna have a fast and snappy computer, even if you have to use some old apps to get things done.
(Of course, this is hypothetical. The true best choice in this situation would be a Linux install with a simple X11 window manager or Windows 7 without transparency effects)
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It all depends on how that laptop is setup and the drivers installed.
If the laptop is used with all the bloatware ( extra software ) and outdated display drivers, it can not be use.
A Windows 10 installation that has all the unnecessary software remove ( which is a lot ) will provide the basic to support the hardware of a 10 or 15 year old PC and performs very fast with even just 4GB of RAM. What makes the PC slow is all the extra Task ( background process ).
The same applies to any Linux OS now days. The installation automatically install a lot of extra software and services, it takes time to clean it up and make it efficient.
Same principal applies to Android, what makes the Tablet slow is the google apps and all the extras that are not need it. The Tablet is just a Linux laptop with a touch screen.
Look at this guide of ROM Reducer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-rom-reducer-for-more-ram.3954026/
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
No, Android 4.x uses an old kernel, Android 7.1 and newer are built with a newer kernel providing better support for the hardware and software.
Android is not the native operating system for the Tablet, earlier version of Android had issues than with the time was improve.
It all depends on the settings and how is set up, but newer OS provides better support. Software is what makes the hardware to work.
Devices are not mechanical machines that works on the principal of physical parts, but works on code, software.
Check this guide and see that all ROMs have the same settings, optimized to use the full 1GB of RAM and CPU speed plus swap partition.
Any original ( stock ) Android ROM can not provide the same settings even if the user try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-max-1gb-ram-max-1836-frequency-for-all-roms.3973149/
It all depends on how that laptop is setup and the drivers installed.
If the laptop is used with all the bloatware ( extra software ) and outdated display drivers, it can not be use.
A Windows 10 installation that has all the unnecessary software remove ( which is a lot ) will provide the basic to support the hardware of a 10 or 15 year old PC and performs very fast with even just 4GB of RAM. What makes the PC slow is all the extra Task ( background process ).
The same applies to any Linux OS now days. The installation automatically install a lot of extra software and services, it takes time to clean it up and make it efficient.
Same principal applies to Android, what makes the Tablet slow is the google apps and all the extras that are not need it. The Tablet is just a Linux laptop with a touch screen.
Look at this guide of ROM Reducer:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-rom-reducer-for-more-ram.3954026/
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So you are saying the EV 7.1 build is as fast as CM11? (both same settings, no Gapps)? I really don't see how that can be the case. I have had A 7 on an old Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Nexus. On both devices, Android 4.4 (CM11) was quite a bit faster than the Android 7 builds (LOS 14.1). Ultimately, KitKat (2014) was made for the devices of its time, which were much less powerful than the devices of 2017, when Nougat launched. It makes sense that KitKat would thus run better on outdated hardware. Granted, those were native Android devices, but I think that should still apply to this touchpad, which is running an old Qualcomm CPU.
Anyway, once this boots, I'll test both JCSullins' CM11 and the EV 7 to see what is better. The only issue I really see with using 4.4 is the lack of Aurora Store, since that requires Lollipop at minimum. However, apkmirror should do fine for the few apps I need to install. YouTube Vanced 14.21.54 will work on KitKat as well.
Sanras said:
So you are saying the EV 7.1 build is as fast as CM11? (both same settings, no Gapps)? I really don't see how that can be the case. I have had A 7 on an old Galaxy Tab and Galaxy Nexus. On both devices, Android 4.4 (CM11) was quite a bit faster than the Android 7 builds (LOS 14.1). Ultimately, KitKat (2014) was made for the devices of its time, which were much less powerful than the devices of 2017, when Nougat launched. It makes sense that KitKat would thus run better on outdated hardware. Granted, those were native Android devices, but I think that should still apply to this touchpad, which is running an old Qualcomm CPU.
Anyway, once this boots, I'll test both JCSullins' CM11 and the EV 7 to see what is better. The only issue I really see with using 4.4 is the lack of Aurora Store, since that requires Lollipop at minimum. However, apkmirror should do fine for the few apps I need to install. YouTube Vanced 14.21.54 will work on KitKat as well.
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Is all about the settings and how is set up by the user and that applies to all devices, PC, smartphone even cars or anything !
You can see it with your own eyes, take a look at my youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKoir6bzzPU-Uq9UjcRR3hw
On this guide all the optimize settings are applied to all the ROMs to make them work the same.
I know there is a lot to read, but is 10 years of development.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...all-android-roms-with-swap-partition.3901773/
LN11211 said:
"@HP_TOUCHPAD , Hello, I still can't believe we have support for the touch pad....
The touch pad was dead a long ago and I revived it back today, "
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How did you revive your TouchPad??? Mine will not power on - there are no lights when charging. I have even replaced the battery with no difference.
Any Help is truly appreciated!
deegge said:
How did you revive your TouchPad??? Mine will not power on - there are no lights when charging. I have even replaced the battery with no difference.
Any Help is truly appreciated!
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Use original charger or equivalent.
Tablet must be in a warm environment of 80F. ( it won't take charge in the cold )
Check that the USB port is not damage, try the wireless charger if available.
Try to apply the de-brick process:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/hp-touchpad-debrick-linux-live-cd.4189245/