My Xperia 1 (J8170) cannot trigger USB-PD properly with 3rd party chargers. Sony stock charger can always trigger USB-PD properly.
If I connect the chargers with cable and then plug the charger to AC, it will charge in its maximum rate. In AIDA64, it shows the charging current is 2xxx mA. This current reading is same with Sony stock charger.
However, if I plug the charger on AC first, Xperia 1 will only charge itself at a current below 1500 mA (also in AIDA64)
The chargers I tried:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S933QDZ/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SQVHPDQ/
I have the same result with a power bank that should support [email protected] PD charge. But I didn't try to connect the phone first…
Manufacturers can do their own protocol for PD from what I read, so it's really troublesome to find third party compatible device :/
Try getting an anker USB-PD charger. Mine works fine with it. This is the one I use: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-Delivery-PowerPort-MateBook/dp/B06Y427WT7
I think I figured out the problem. By testing the protocol with TC66 USB type-C multimeter, Sony stock charger is doing USB PD 3.0 PPS protocol, but the 3rd party chargers I used can only do USB-PD 2.0 or 3.0 without PPS. The cellphone do not try to trigger USB-PD without PPS if it fails to trigger PPS. It will fall back to regular 5V 1.5A charging.
lzy0702 said:
I think I figured out the problem. By testing the protocol with TC66 USB type-C multimeter, Sony stock charger is doing USB PD 3.0 PPS protocol, but the 3rd party chargers I used can only do USB-PD 2.0 or 3.0 without PPS. The cellphone do not try to trigger USB-PD without PPS if it fails to trigger PPS. It will fall back to regular 5V 1.5A charging.
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Ho! Thank you! This information will be usefull!
my Anker - PowerPort Atom PD 1 USB Type C Wall Charger - White works well for PD
I'm using power bank with PD support and got issues with anker A1281. Tried two more and got the same problem. It really not easy to find.
lzy0702 said:
My Xperia 1 (J8170) cannot trigger USB-PD properly with 3rd party chargers. Sony stock charger can always trigger USB-PD properly.
If I connect the chargers with cable and then plug the charger to AC, it will charge in its maximum rate. In AIDA64, it shows the charging current is 2xxx mA. This current reading is same with Sony stock charger.
However, if I plug the charger on AC first, Xperia 1 will only charge itself at a current below 1500 mA (also in AIDA64)
The chargers I tried:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S933QDZ/
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SQVHPDQ/
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Sony Xperia 1 support pd & pps
Or samsung charger
Tamizhan. said:
Sony Xperia 1 support pd & pps
Or samsung charger
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Will the Samsung 25w charger works with the xperia series? It has both pd3.0 and pps
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I've contrived to lose my USB-C charger so was wondering if any regular 10W 2A charger will suffice if I use a proper USB-C to USB-A cable (56k ohms)?
I used today a battery pack to charge the Moto Z.
5V at nearly 2A and it was fast enough.
So I think that it works pretty good.
I used several 10w chargers with a proper cable and charged pretty fast. But I also noticed that the plugs overheat.
Type C charger that gives turbo charging
mysticpeaks said:
I've contrived to lose my USB-C charger so was wondering if any regular 10W 2A charger will suffice if I use a proper USB-C to USB-A cable (56k ohms)?
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I got CHOETECH 5V/3A 15W Type-C Wall Charger for $14.99 from Amazon and Moto Z reports Turbo Charging with it. It comes with a C to C cable.
Are there any aftermarket chargers that will work like the oem Motorola Turbopower chargers?
Pretty much any USB-C charger will work. I've used an old USB power brick with a USB-B -> USB-C cable, I've used my Acer R13's USB-C 45W power brick, and I've used my Choetech 55W 6-port charging station with a USB-C -> USB-C cable. They all work.
If you're looking for something that works with the X4's Turbopower, that's basically just Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 under a different name. My charging station is QC 3.0, which works with QC 2.0 devices, which works with this Moto X4. It charges quite fast.
If all you're looking for is a product recommendation, I'd check out this: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charge-Type-C-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01CJ90J6O
crazyates said:
Pretty much any USB-C charger will work. I've used an old USB power brick with a USB-B -> USB-C cable, I've used my Acer R13's USB-C 45W power brick, and I've used my Choetech 55W 6-port charging station with a USB-C -> USB-C cable. They all work.
If you're looking for something that works with the X4's Turbopower, that's basically just Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 under a different name. My charging station is QC 3.0, which works with QC 2.0 devices, which works with this Moto X4. It charges quite fast.
If all you're looking for is a product recommendation, I'd check out this: https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charge-Type-C-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01CJ90J6O
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Think our X4 needs QC3.0 for turbo charging. I have several QC2.0 chargers left over from my last phone and they do not charge this device at full speed. Also I'm pretty sure the original Motorola charger that came with it is QC3.0 according to what I've seen. But I've just ordered my first after-market charger (a RAVPower car charger, model VC007003) and can report back when it arrives later this week.
Looks like QC3.0 is the ticket
Here are screenshots of the charging rates using both my old QC2.0 and new QC3.0 chargers. The new one activates the "TurboPower connected" toast message, which the old one did not, and charges at a much faster rate. Gonna check out some QC3.0 wall chargers in the near future now.
Yes.
Anything from Qualcomm's certified list.
The original charger is 5V, 3A (15 Watt). However, most Qualcomm QC 2.0 chargers from 1 or 2 years ago ran at 12V, not 5V for fast charging so they don't support the combination of 5V 3A. It's the same thing that happened with the Nexus 5X which technically didn't have Qualcomm QC either, despite having a Qualcomm CPU. Forget the branding on the charger since it is too unreliable, and just find yourself something that can support 5V, 3A.
Wireless charging station for Moto x4?
Anyone know of a wireless charging station that works on the Moto X4? Got my x4 from Project Fi back in October and now it won't charge with a standard usb c cable. The phone and usb plug gets hot.
I'm using Pleson Fast Charge stand and CHGeek Wireless Charging Patch. The charging patch is kind of unsightly but I don't care, it charges "Turbo" fast.
Uhmmm
SynbiosVyse said:
The original charger is 5V, 3A (15 Watt). However, most Qualcomm QC 2.0 chargers from 1 or 2 years ago ran at 12V, not 5V for fast charging so they don't support the combination of 5V 3A. It's the same thing that happened with the Nexus 5X which technically didn't have Qualcomm QC either, despite having a Qualcomm CPU. Forget the branding on the charger since it is too unreliable, and just find yourself something that can support 5V, 3A.
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That may explain why my Nexus 5x charger can't charge this Moto x 4 (it takes forever to complete a charge) but technically it still works
I've gotten turbo speeds from several different Quickcharge3 chargers from Anker. As a side benefit, they also do a good job charging my wife's iPhone.
For me this cable and this wall adapter do the trick just fine.
I bought this power bank: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LRQDAEI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Unfortunately, it doesn't fast charge my Mate 10 Pro. I have a USB C PD car charger and wall charger, both of which work fine and fast charge properly. (Tried multiple cables too). I'm wondering if there's some negotiation issue because this power bank has a bidirectional USB C port (i.e. you also charge the power bank via USB C).
I'm gonna try this one next: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075NXR2T4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Anyone know of a USB C PD power bank that works?
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https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B077TB39W5/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&psc=1
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Hmm those would indeed probably work. I'm really looking for something that supports USB PD so it will work with all my other devices though...
The Mate 10 pro is not USB PD compliant.
You can kind of "quick charge" it by using a non standard charging protocol, like 9V 1,5A, but truly "supercharger" at 5V 5A, only with a Huawei supercharger device / cable.
So probably the other chargers you have support other proprietary 10 and 15w solutions that your power bank doesn't.
Luinwethion said:
The Mate 10 pro is not USB PD compliant.
You can kind of "quick charge" it by using a non standard charging protocol, like 9V 1,5A, but truly "supercharger" at 5V 5A, only with a Huawei supercharger device / cable.
So probably the other chargers you have support other proprietary 10 and 15w solutions that your power bank doesn't.
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So I ended up buying a USB C power meter. Despite the phone not supporting USB PD, as you claim, it negotiates 16W (9Vx1.8A) from all four charging devices I've tried. But for some reason the power banks don't activate fast charging, while the chargers do... I'm not sure where all the current is going, if not the battery.
FWIW, ugreen seems to think USB PD is supported: https://www.ugreen.com/news/186-en.html
kaysond said:
So I ended up buying a USB C power meter. Despite the phone not supporting USB PD, as you claim, it negotiates 16W (9Vx1.8A) from all four charging devices I've tried. But for some reason the power banks don't activate fast charging, while the chargers do... I'm not sure where all the current is going, if not the battery.
FWIW, ugreen seems to think USB PD is supported: https://www.ugreen.com/news/186-en.html
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You can kind of "quick charge" it by using a non standard charging protocol, like 9V 1,5A, but truly "supercharger" at 5V 5A, only with a Huawei supercharger device / cable.
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I never said that the Mate wouldn't charge a faster rates, I said it isn't PD compliant, if it was USB-PD compliant, you'd get 22W.
Most chargers / power bank have compatibility for the until now used "broken" quick charging protocols, just because most devices don't support PD as of right now.
I wished the Mate would have support for PD, this would also mean fast charging and data stream at the same time (by using a dock), but try and plugging a dock that's USB-PD compliant (like the many found for the MacBooks) and plug a USB device or a HDMI cable and charging speeds drops significantly.
Luinwethion said:
I never said that the Mate wouldn't charge a faster rates, I said it isn't PD compliant, if it was USB-PD compliant, you'd get 22W.
Most chargers / power bank have compatibility for the until now used "broken" quick charging protocols, just because most devices don't support PD as of right now.
I wished the Mate would have support for PD, this would also mean fast charging and data stream at the same time (by using a dock), but try and plugging a dock that's USB-PD compliant (like the many found for the MacBooks) and plug a USB device or a HDMI cable and charging speeds drops significantly.
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What makes you think it doesn't support PD? It's obviously negotiating power somehow, and the cable I used doesn't have the D+/D- pins, so it would have to be using some other protocol over USB C...
Also none of this really explains why it's drawing 1.8A off 9V from the power banks, but not fast charging.
kaysond said:
What makes you think it doesn't support PD? It's obviously negotiating power somehow, and the cable I used doesn't have the D+/D- pins, so it would have to be using some other protocol over USB C...
Also none of this really explains why it's drawing 1.8A off 9V from the power banks, but not fast charging.
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To make terminology clear, we are talking about USB-PD rev. 2, the one found in th Pixel, MacBook, and others right? Not rev 1 or the USB battery charging protocol, those are basically outdated.
Because I see you're using a modified cable and PD rev2 needs a USB-C to C compliant cable, the specifications calls for 4 power & ground pairs and a separated communication bus.
That's why USB-PD rev2 cannot be served via USB-A plug.
Well, why do I say the Mate 10 is not PD compliant, well, take a PD compliant charger, cable and dock, connect it all to the Mate 10 and watch it either charge a 0,5mAh rate or the phone go crazy it will recognize a charger, then say it's disconnected, then say it's connected again, and so on in a continuous loop.
A USB-PD compliant device is able to handle fast charging, data and video output all at one.
I've tested this with various combination of docks, cables and chargers, and none worked... Intimation online is though to find, Huawei's official statement is "our phone supports the best, fastest, safest....." Bla bla bla....
Since most PD rev2 chargers are backwards compatible, you can use them to charge your phone just not at the "optimum rate"... 9v 2A (ish) is the last generation (Huawei P9) Huawei fast charge, and it's mostly the same profile as the Samsung fast charging, QC 2.0 and some other variants, the Mate 10 supports it too at this theoretical of 18W (although I suppose that the speed will be much slower).
The optimum "supercharger speed" is 4.5V 5A, and it's not a standard at all, that's why only Huawei chargers will be able to provide it, I also suppose that there is a lock preventing users from use the dash charger power brick for example.
But back on track, when you said that your phone is not Fast charging, I supposed that you meant that the phone was charging at a really low rate, but is it? I mean what's the difference that you are seeing between your power bank and the other chargers?
Have you tried using a USB-C to C cable from your power bank?
Luinwethion said:
To make terminology clear, we are talking about USB-PD rev. 2, the one found in th Pixel, MacBook, and others right? Not rev 1 or the USB battery charging protocol, those are basically outdated.
Because I see you're using a modified cable and PD rev2 needs a USB-C to C compliant cable, the specifications calls for 4 power & ground pairs and a separated communication bus.
That's why USB-PD rev2 cannot be served via USB-A plug.
Well, why do I say the Mate 10 is not PD compliant, well, take a PD compliant charger, cable and dock, connect it all to the Mate 10 and watch it either charge a 0,5mAh rate or the phone go crazy it will recognize a charger, then say it's disconnected, then say it's connected again, and so on in a continuous loop.
A USB-PD compliant device is able to handle fast charging, data and video output all at one.
I've tested this with various combination of docks, cables and chargers, and none worked... Intimation online is though to find, Huawei's official statement is "our phone supports the best, fastest, safest....." Bla bla bla....
Since most PD rev2 chargers are backwards compatible, you can use them to charge your phone just not at the "optimum rate"... 9v 2A (ish) is the last generation (Huawei P9) Huawei fast charge, and it's mostly the same profile as the Samsung fast charging, QC 2.0 and some other variants, the Mate 10 supports it too at this theoretical of 18W (although I suppose that the speed will be much slower).
The optimum "supercharger speed" is 4.5V 5A, and it's not a standard at all, that's why only Huawei chargers will be able to provide it, I also suppose that there is a lock preventing users from use the dash charger power brick for example.
But back on track, when you said that your phone is not Fast charging, I supposed that you meant that the phone was charging at a really low rate, but is it? I mean what's the difference that you are seeing between your power bank and the other chargers?
Have you tried using a USB-C to C cable from your power bank?
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Correct. I'm talking about USB PD 2.0. That's interesting, because I don't see the same behavior you're talking about. I wonder if you have a different model? Mine is BLA-A09
All of my charging devices are proper USB C, and support PD 2.0, and I used a marked 100W certified USB C cable. I later used a cable without D+/D- pins to test if its negotiating power using something other than USB PD. Behavior was the same.
This is what I sent to Huawei, and they basically told me the phone is optimized for their own charger. The problem is that despite negotiating, and drawing the same power from all chargers, with the power banks, it does not go into fast charge mode, which you can see from the different charging icon and the longer time to charge.
Device: Nekteck Wall Charger
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0721KG2Q7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Maximum Output Power: 65W
Power Delivered to Mate 10 Pro: 9.07V * 1.82A = 16.51W (https://i.imgur.com/ryDJuS0.jpg)
Charging State: Fast Charging (https://i.imgur.com/OYyQ5qK.jpg)
Device: RAVPower 26800mAH Power Bank
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LRQDAEI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Maximum Output Power: 30W
Power Delivered to Mate 10 Pro: 9.09V * 1.82A = 16.54W (https://i.imgur.com/8N42dyd.jpg)
Charging State: Regular Charging (https://i.imgur.com/mz9XHz1.jpg)
Device: iMuto 20100mAH Power Bank
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075NXR2T4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Maximum Output Power: 45W
Power Delivered to Mate 10 Pro: 8.98V * 1.82A = 16.34W (https://i.imgur.com/hbUTmYD.jpg)
Charging State: Regular Charging (https://i.imgur.com/364ADEe.jpg)
Device: Nekteck Car Charger
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075WQQG7C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Maximum Output Power: 45W
Power Delivered to Mate 10 Pro: ~16.5W
Charging State: Fast Charging
(Saitech Power Meter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT8MC3N/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
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Correct. I'm talking about USB PD 2.0. That's interesting, because I don't see the same behavior you're talking about. I wonder if you have a different model? Mine is BLA-A09
All of my charging devices are proper USB C, and support PD 2.0, and I used a marked 100W certified USB C cable. I later used a cable without D+/D- pins to test if its negotiating power using something other than USB PD. Behavior was the same.
This is what I sent to Huawei, and they basically told me the phone is optimized for their own charger. The problem is that despite negotiating, and drawing the same power from all chargers, with the power banks, it does not go into fast charge mode, which you can see from the different charging icon and the longer time to charge.
Device: Nekteck Wall Charger
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0721KG2Q7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Maximum Output Power: 65W
Power Delivered to Mate 10 Pro: 9.07V * 1.82A = 16.51W (https://i.imgur.com/ryDJuS0.jpg)
Charging State: Fast Charging (https://i.imgur.com/OYyQ5qK.jpg)
Device: RAVPower 26800mAH Power Bank
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LRQDAEI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Maximum Output Power: 30W
Power Delivered to Mate 10 Pro: 9.09V * 1.82A = 16.54W (https://i.imgur.com/8N42dyd.jpg)
Charging State: Regular Charging (https://i.imgur.com/mz9XHz1.jpg)
Device: iMuto 20100mAH Power Bank
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075NXR2T4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Maximum Output Power: 45W
Power Delivered to Mate 10 Pro: 8.98V * 1.82A = 16.34W (https://i.imgur.com/hbUTmYD.jpg)
Charging State: Regular Charging (https://i.imgur.com/364ADEe.jpg)
Device: Nekteck Car Charger
Link: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075WQQG7C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Maximum Output Power: 45W
Power Delivered to Mate 10 Pro: ~16.5W
Charging State: Fast Charging
(Saitech Power Meter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MT8MC3N/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
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Ah clear, the iconography is a bit different on my device, must be just a firmware difference.
Your phone is drawing the same amount of power mostly, the charging rate should be very similar.
What about something like ampere or accu battery to check the estimated charging rate?
There are specialized devices for checking the negotiation between both devices, I suppose that it's just a question of a different chipset not triggering the fast charging status in de kernel.
Ps: my phone charges normally, I just that when connected to a dock, sadly it can't charge at more than 2,5W (at most 4w), because it isn't compatible with the newest standard that allows for double role data and power.
Luinwethion said:
Ah clear, the iconography is a bit different on my device, must be just a firmware difference.
Your phone is drawing the same amount of power mostly, the charging rate should be very similar.
What about something like ampere or accu battery to check the estimated charging rate?
There are specialized devices for checking the negotiation between both devices, I suppose that it's just a question of a different chipset not triggering the fast charging status in de kernel.
Ps: my phone charges normally, I just that when connected to a dock, sadly it can't charge at more than 2,5W (at most 4w), because it isn't compatible with the newest standard that allows for double role data and power.
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Good suggestion. I used accu battery and compared charging between battery and wall charger for 5min at around the same battery %. They're charging at exactly the same rate. So it's just some kind of UI bug that's showing the wrong icon and charge time... Now how do I get them to fix it?
That is a bummer that dual power+data is not supported!
There was a Chinese website which published some USB PD charging tests with the Huawei Mate 10. 28 different chargers were tested. I can't recall the URL offhand.
IIRC, general conclusion from their tests was that the Mate 10 could draw 9V 2A from most USB PD chargers. And that the Mate 10 only accepts 9V input voltage for USB PD fast charging.
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Hi, I would like to ask about SuperDart 65W (10V, 6.5A) from Realme 7 Pro. It charges every of its two batteries at 5V and 6.5A (32.5W each) but I found information that it suppots Power Delivery and Quick Charge 18W as well. With PD and QC you can charge the battery at 9V , 12V, 15V etc. but not 10V. Does anyone know at what voltage the smartphone will be charged if you use PD or QC charger?
Is it safe to charge it with higher/less voltage? (e.g. 2x4.5V or 2x6V if 5V is needed for one battery)
And what about the standard 5V chargers and usb 3.1 (e.g laptop)? Is it possible to charge 7 Pro with it?
Generally, all fast charges will drop ther voltage when the connected phone doesn't support it.
With lower voltage you wont have any problems other than the speed of charging, which will obviously decrease
Standard 5V chargers will work just fine
Normal laptop usb will work just fine, in fact you will be lucky if the laptop supports any sort of fast charging at all
You are 100% safe to charge with pretty much any charger to my understandment
This is the 100W Baseus deskop charger and I have two issues with it:
1. When two USB C ports are used, the power division is C1=65W and C2=30W. So C1 should still be more than capable enough to handle SFC 2.0 45W charging. But as you can see in the video, SFC 2.0 is not working when two USB C ports are used.
2. When I charge at SFC 2.0 and SFC 1.0 with the same charger, they both cap at 33W. I thought SFC 1.0 is just 25W? When I use the official 25W Samsung SFC 1.0 charger, it just caps off at 24W as expected.
Baseus support sucks big time so I'm having a problem reporting this to them.
kevindd992002 said:
This is the 100W Baseus deskop charger and I have two issues with it:
1. When two USB C ports are used, the power division is C1=65W and C2=30W. So C1 should still be more than capable enough to handle SFC 2.0 45W charging. But as you can see in the video, SFC 2.0 is not working when two USB C ports are used.
2. When I charge at SFC 2.0 and SFC 1.0 with the same charger, they both cap at 33W. I thought SFC 1.0 is just 25W? When I use the official 25W Samsung SFC 1.0 charger, it just caps off at 24W as expected.
Baseus support sucks big time so I'm having a problem reporting this to them.
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Baseus GaN5 Pro 65 watt can charge at 50watt peak.
after 60 percent,watt same as samsung 25 watt charger.
But your measurement is input power to the charger and not output power to the phone. There's a bit of a difference because of power adapter efficiency. I don't know what is the difference between the Gan5 Pro 65W and this 100W adapter really.
BUMP! Anyone please?
This is normal for such a charger. I have a PZOZ version - 65W GaN 2xUSB C + 1xUSB A. SFC 2.0 works only with 1 device plugged in, if you plug another (it might be a 5W one) - this breaks the SFC. I can assume that this is coming from the controller and the device is actually not capable to support such scenario, even though the power is declared as 100W.
Hmmm, that's interesting. I thought the issue was isolated to BaseUS. Their support is really non-existent. They reply but it's like you're talking to a stupid person that does not understand the issue.
Aside from this issue, do you have any other issues when using both ports? As for me, when I charge my phone while my laptop is plugged in, it sometimes drops the wattage on the laptop device to just 19w. If the laptop is plugged in by itself, it goes up to 59w. Not sure what's going on here.
Are there any usb c car chargers that support sfc 2.0?
kevindd992002 said:
Hmmm, that's interesting. I thought the issue was isolated to BaseUS. Their support is really non-existent. They reply but it's like you're talking to a stupid person that does not understand the issue.
Aside from this issue, do you have any other issues when using both ports? As for me, when I charge my phone while my laptop is plugged in, it sometimes drops the wattage on the laptop device to just 19w. If the laptop is plugged in by itself, it goes up to 59w. Not sure what's going on here.
Are there any usb c car chargers that support sfc 2.0?
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Total Power: 72W
Baseus aluminum 45W USB / USB C car charger:
Charges up to 4 times faster than conventional USB/USB C adapters
Extremely small and light (ideal for travelling)
With support for Power Delivery 3.0 / Quick Charge 4.0
45W output current power
With LED display on the charger
Charge your USB / USB C compatible devices such as smartphones, tablets or MP3 players, etc. in the car now. With the Baseus USB / USB C car charger, your devices are always fully charged while driving. The Baseus Car Charger Auto USB / USB C is ideal for people with active lifestyles who travel a lot. It simply plugs into your vehicle's power outlet (cigarette lighter) and charges while driving.
The power supply also supports the latest Power Delivery 3.0 and Quick Charge 4.0 technologies, with which you can charge your iPhone X up to 50% in just 30 minutes. The car charger always guarantees the maximum charging capacity to charge your electronic devices, with a current output line of up to 6 amps.
ATTENTION: USB/USB C cable not included (can be ordered in store).
The black color
Manufacturer: Baseus
Material: aluminum/plastic
Technical specifications:
Performance/power: 45 watts
Input: 12-24V
USB Output: 4.5V/5A; 5V/4.5A; 9V/3A; 12V/3A; 20V/2.25A
USB-C Output: 5V/3A; 9V/3A; 12V/3A; 15V/3A; 20V/2.25A
Output USB + USB C Total: 5V/6A max
Nmc_alves® said:

Satechi - USB / USB C car charger with 72W:
Simultaneous Charging: Has both a universal USB A port and a Type-C port
Quick Charge: Devices can be charged quickly on the go
Powerful and compact design: Type-C power 60W (max), Type-A power 12W (max), total 72W
Equipped with an LED indicator to check the charging status
With Power Delivery for particularly fast charging
Compatible with almost all USB devices and most USB Type-C devices
The Satechi USB C and USB A Car Charger is the perfect solution for charging your devices on the go. Never worry about how to charge your smartphone, tablet, computer or other device while on the go. Simply connect the charger to your car's cigarette lighter and connect the other end of the USB cable to the USB port of the desired device. You can already charge your device on the go. Satechi's Dual Car Charger allows you to simultaneously charge a 13" MacBook Pro (2016) via the USB-C port and an iPhone/tablet via the USB-A port. The output power for the USB-C port is 60 W (max) and 12 W for the USB-A port.
ATTENTION: The delivery does not include a USB cable!
Color: white/silver
Brand: Satechi
Model: ST-TCPDCCS
Weight: about 34g
Technical specifications:
Input: DC12V - 24V
USB-C output: 60W (max)
USB A output: 12W (max)
Total Power: 72W
Baseus aluminum 45W USB / USB C car charger:
Charges up to 4 times faster than conventional USB/USB C adapters
Extremely small and light (ideal for travelling)
With support for Power Delivery 3.0 / Quick Charge 4.0
45W output current power
With LED display on the charger
Charge your USB / USB C compatible devices such as smartphones, tablets or MP3 players, etc. in the car now. With the Baseus USB / USB C car charger, your devices are always fully charged while driving. The Baseus Car Charger Auto USB / USB C is ideal for people with active lifestyles who travel a lot. It simply plugs into your vehicle's power outlet (cigarette lighter) and charges while driving.
The power supply also supports the latest Power Delivery 3.0 and Quick Charge 4.0 technologies, with which you can charge your iPhone X up to 50% in just 30 minutes. The car charger always guarantees the maximum charging capacity to charge your electronic devices, with a current output line of up to 6 amps.
ATTENTION: USB/USB C cable not included (can be ordered in store).
The black color
Manufacturer: Baseus
Material: aluminum/plastic
Technical specifications:
Performance/power: 45 watts
Input: 12-24V
USB Output: 4.5V/5A; 5V/4.5A; 9V/3A; 12V/3A; 20V/2.25A
USB-C Output: 5V/3A; 9V/3A; 12V/3A; 15V/3A; 20V/2.25A
Output USB + USB C Total: 5V/6A max
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But I bought the 65W charger and BaseUS said that it can only do PPS 18W.
S23 Ultra requires 10v 4.5 amp to achieve 45 w charging . Charger and Cable both should be capable of 5 amp current capacity and Charger should support PD 3.0 with PPS at 5 amp that is the basic requirement, Cable should have a e-marker chip to identify it as having 5 amp capacity to the charger. usually such cables have 5 amp written on the USB C port and are visibly thicker than the normal 3 amp cables .
ask77 said:
S23 Ultra requires 10v 4.5 amp to achieve 45 w charging . Charger and Cable both should be capable of 5 amp current capacity and Charger should support PD 3.0 with PPS at 5 amp that is the basic requirement, Cable should have a e-marker chip to identify it as having 5 amp capacity to the charger. usually such cables have 5 amp written on the USB C port and are visibly thicker than the normal 3 amp cables .
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Do you have any reference for that 10V 4.5A information? Some say it's 9V 5A but I never saw any official claims from Samsung regarding that too. I have no issues with cables. I'm using 100W BaseUS cables with e-marker chips on them. They don't have the 5A writing on them but they are obviously thicker than the included Samsung cable (which is only for 25W charging). Here are the specs of the 100W BaseUS desktop charger that I have:
As you can see, it does support PD3.0. Although PPS is not written there, it does support it as well as confirmed by BaseUS support and the video that I showed. I don't see 10V anywhere though so I'm not sure how it works with PPS or something. Does PPS adjust the voltage with fine adjustments or something? Also, that doesn't explain the issue I'm having where SFC 2.0 won't work when two USB ports are used. It only works when the phone is charged alone and this defeats the purpose of buying a multi-port charger in the first place.
Go to settings, about phone , and then status information the last entry there is Rated 10 V 4.5 Amp . Yes pps adjusts voltage with fine adjustment of 20mv . It can provide between 3.3 V to 21 V at upto 5 Amp . Your problem seems to be related to the charger itself which is unable to deliver the required power when two usb ports are used . BTW you can use an app called accubattery which should give you the exact charging data for your phone.
ask77 said:
Go to settings, about phone , and then status information the last entry there is Rated 10 V 4.5 Amp . Yes pps adjusts voltage with fine adjustment of 20mv . It can provide between 3.3 V to 21 V at upto 5 Amp . Your problem seems to be related to the charger itself which is unable to deliver the required power when two usb ports are used . BTW you can use an app called accubattery which should give you the exact charging data for your phone.
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Ok, I see that now. Well, @Stenlius replied to this thread and says that this is normal. Any comments on that?
What's more weird though is that when it's charging at sfc 2.0, the cable only shows 33w. When I plug in another device in the charger, it renegotiates to sfc 1.0 but still at 33w!
When I use the official 25w samsung charger with the same cable, it goes down to 24w as expected.
SFC 2.0 - So far I have only seen with the Samsung official chargers. I've spent so much money on Belkin, Baseus, UGreen, Anker accessories and never been able to get peak speeds.
JazonX said:
SFC 2.0 - So far I have only seen with the Samsung official chargers. I've spent so much money on Belkin, Baseus, UGreen, Anker accessories and never been able to get peak speeds.
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Oh wow, that's good to know. Were you getting around the same wattage as I do at 33W? I still have time to return these and is why I'm asking for help here to verify if I don't have an isolated issue or something.
kevindd992002 said:
Oh wow, that's good to know. Were you getting around the same wattage as I do at 33W? I still have time to return these and is why I'm asking for help here to verify if I don't have an isolated issue or something.
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Never had the tools to measure the wattage output.
I just plug and wait for SFC 2.0 to show up, and if it doesn't - I just get rid of it.
I've tried 120W Xiaomi chargers as well.
Max anything other than samsung genuine chargers can go up to is "Fast Charging" or super charging 1.0.
JazonX said:
Never had the tools to measure the wattage output.
I just plug and wait for SFC 2.0 to show up, and if it doesn't - I just get rid of it.
I've tried 120W Xiaomi chargers as well.
Max anything other than samsung genuine chargers can go up to is "Fast Charging" or super charging 1.0.
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Well theh that's not the same case as mine. If you read my OP and watched the video, you'll see that I can do sfc 2.0 with this baseus charger but only maxes at 33 watts. I thought you had the same issue as mine.
kevindd992002 said:
Well theh that's not the same case as mine. If you read my OP and watched the video, you'll see that I can do sfc 2.0 with this baseus charger but only maxes at 33 watts. I thought you had the same issue as mine.
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peak charging only below 20 percent.
after that 3x watt.
after 60 percent 2x watt,same as 25 watt samsung original charger and cable from the box.(3A cable).
basesus gan 2 lite 65 watt and basesus gan 5 pro 65 watt support SFC 2.0.
tested with S23 Ultra.
this image is s23 ultra at 15 percent battery.
charging with samsung original 45 watt charger.
domperidane said:
peak charging only below 20 percent.
after that 3x watt.
after 60 percent 2x watt,same as 25 watt samsung original charger and cable from the box.(3A cable).
basesus gan 2 lite 65 watt and basesus gan 5 pro 65 watt support SFC 2.0.
tested with S23 Ultra.
this image is s23 ultra at 15 percent battery.
charging with samsung original 45 watt charger.
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Ok, that makes sense. I'll try charging at 15% and see if it makes it to 48W.
Also, have you tried charging yout s23 ultra with more than one usb port plugged in your charger? That does not work as you see in my video.
kevindd992002 said:
Ok, that makes sense. I'll try charging at 15% and see if it makes it to 48W.
Also, have you tried charging yout s23 ultra with more than one usb port plugged in your charger? That does not work as you see in my video.
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may be there is a problem with your charger.
you can claim warranty.
domperidane said:
may be there is a problem with your charger.
you can claim warranty.
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No there is none. I posted on reddit before buying this and one guy posted the same issue. Can you test with yours?