Hi guys,
Quick question.
Shouldn't we be able to choose from snapdragon or exynos SoC? I mean isn't this like lying to costumers about their product? I bought a S9+ and in overall the phone is good BUT there's a good difference when it comes to playing games on it. Snapdragon is more efficient than Exynos and I don't think that selling a S9+ with Snapdragon and S9+ for the same is correct.
What's is your opinion, guys? ?
Yes, it is legal.
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It's legal... because by model number you can check device specifics.
Even with many things you'll find same model number but with different revisions where hardware has been changed in some way on each revision.
So you should check first which model you prefer.
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I must pay more attention to it when buy smartphones next time.
Unfortunately, it is. What it isn't legal is if you buy it online claiming to be the Snapdragon version and you get the Exynos version.
I was fortunate enough to get a SD version (gift) lol the only down side is it doesn't have an unlockable BL
albertobom said:
Hi guys,
Quick question.
Shouldn't we be able to choose from snapdragon or exynos SoC? I mean isn't this like lying to costumers about their product? I bought a S9+ and in overall the phone is good BUT there's a good difference when it comes to playing games on it. Snapdragon is more efficient than Exynos and I don't think that selling a S9+ with Snapdragon and S9+ for the same is correct.
What's is your opinion, guys? ?
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its fifty bajillion percent legal. is it being transparent to the consumer? not at all. That being said, yes, the model number is on the box, but who would know to check for that? The average android user isnt even aware that there are 3 very distinctly different sets of models for galaxy phones these days. All they know is that there is a + and a non+ model. I get it why they dont just lay it out there for folks to interpret as it can easily get murky for the average consumer.
Long story short is that Samsung is in a very complicated position that they created for themselves. They legally have to tell people that they are different models, but 99,9% of the users dont care in the slightest what processor it has
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Hey people,
First here is my question : I am a rom flashing addict! I really like to flash different roms on my phone, now considering this, should I buy the international version (quad core and 1gb ram) or I can buy the Canadian version (dual core and 2gb ram)? I know that Canadian is the same than American version (And i THINK Japanese). The problem, once again I THINK, is that the rom of one of the versions wont work on the other.
So knowing I like to flash roms which version should I buy? (also buying the Canadian version will cost me less and it will be easier to repair the phone if I have a problem)
Thanks a lot for your help.
Actually, it isnt necessary to have 100 diff roms that arent good, but at least of couple of them that have good support (no matter what is the version).
Also, i really dont care abt the specs of the phone (hardware speaking).
Thanks again
Go for the North American version. The processor in it (the S4) currently smokes every dual core processor. The North American version will probably see more development support as all the major US carriers are getting the same version, plus Canada.
MattMJB0188 said:
Go for the North American version. The processor in it (the S4) currently smokes every dual core processor. The North American version will probably see more development support as all the major US carriers are getting the same version, plus Canada.
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But are there a lot of good developpers in US and Canada (and some other countries that will have this version of the phone). NOT to offend anyone at all, just a simple question.
tenkaishy said:
But are there a lot of good developpers in US and Canada (and some other countries that will have this version of the phone). NOT to offend anyone at all, just a simple question.
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Absolutely!!! You Exynos folks will be green with envy!!!
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Absolutely!!! You Exynos folks will be green with envy!!!
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Why does everyone think the us has more devs what on xda maybe but no there is more devs in.Eu and most Asia than in us I can't understand that lol how about you look at the thread about unified development idk wth people will be jealous over anything infact international side is new to me and so far I like what I see being I'm getting the UK s3 not the us version I can get both but why would I .
I have 4 phones on sprint now don't need a 5 but I don't envy having to deal with carrier updates and delays due to apple past that issue they will be great us and non us quad core , dual core or 2 gigs ram to 1 all I care is we have better stuff than apple ..
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MattMJB0188 said:
Go for the North American version. The processor in it (the S4) currently smokes every dual core processor. The North American version will probably see more development support as all the major US carriers are getting the same version, plus Canada.
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Yes CPU is on par but what about Mali 400 vs adreno 225 .
I have that same setup in the EVO LTE minus a gig of ram and all I see is quadrant and vellamo which I belive one is based dual core and the other qualcomm I think created but when u look at the one x tegra and s3 quad its noticeably faster .
But who cares on bench marks I agree heavy multi taskers will enjoy the 2 gigs ram but I don't have issues on.my evo LTE especially with more roms coming.
Everyday use they will both be awesome phones but as I said we are awaiting apple's crap end of year because after all the bs this year by them I think most of us are waiting on the ip5 vs sgs3 as trivial it is
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If you want more roms etc go for international. It has larger userbase (allready 9 million ordered). It will propably get cyanogenmod support earlier etc
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Has anyone found a reliable seller for the S9+ in 128 or 256? Exynos or SD. I don't care.
Vodafone Romania- preordered 256 gb black variant. Check www.vodafone.ro and ask if they do international shipping!
I just ordered my S9+ 256gb black (dual sim) from axiom telecom in UAE. I did order my S8+ from them last year without problem. They ask for a scan of your id and a scan of your credit card. Shipped to France without problem (though Aramex shipping company was not very speedy at delivering). Shipping from UAE is said to happen on March 15 ... and should take 10 days to reach me.
I ended up going with the 128GB UK version from https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus .
Cost me $1,023 but it's way better than a Snapdragon with 64GB for $840. and the price includes 3 day international shipping. Considering they are expecting their 1st shipment on the 8th, I may see mine before release day.
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Has anyone found a reliable seller for the S9+ in 128 or 256? Exynos or SD. I don't care.
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I've bought 3 Galaxy's from this eBay seller. They're in Houston and offer US and International devices with features you can't purchase here in the US. Very competitive pricing and a good return policy. Highly Recommend!
https://www.ebay.com/usr/never-msrp?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
varcor said:
I've bought 3 Galaxy's from this eBay seller. They're in Houston and offer US and International devices with features you can't purchase here in the US. Very competitive pricing and a good return policy. Highly Recommend!
https://www.ebay.com/usr/never-msrp?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
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Those are some seriously good prices. I'd be tempted if I hadn't already bought a 128 exynos S9+ since the SD 256 is on there for the same price.
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Those are some seriously good prices. I'd be tempted if I hadn't already bought a 128 exynos S9+ since the SD 256 is on there for the same price.
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Pardon my ignorance, but are these alternate sources the same as the unlocked phone offered through Samsung's website?
I have never bought a new phone from any seller but one of the big 4 carriers and am just now starting to realize how much better life might be buying this S9+ from someone other than Verizon without all the crapware and the Qualcomm chip. I am aware of the VOLTE concerns, etc. If the standard features work with VZW from some of these overseas sellers I am golden.
The reason I'm even pursuing a source other than Samsung.com is because they don't appear to offer anything but the 64 GB model
you need to get a U3 listed sd card or it wont record 4k video to the card. U1 is too slow
spearoid said:
Pardon my ignorance, but are these alternate sources the same as the unlocked phone offered through Samsung's website?
I have never bought a new phone from any seller but one of the big 4 carriers and am just now starting to realize how much better life might be buying this S9+ from someone other than Verizon without all the crapware and the Qualcomm chip. I am aware of the VOLTE concerns, etc. If the standard features work with VZW from some of these overseas sellers I am golden.
The reason I'm even pursuing a source other than Samsung.com is because they don't appear to offer anything but the 64 GB model
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The S9 and S9+ listed in that ebay sellers shop are the Chinese variants. Which basically means that they have the snapdragon processor, higher storage, and have a better chance of being rooted than any of the U.S. versions.
If you're new to buying outside carriers, it is good to know the benefits of each processor. Snapdragon has support for all U.S. carriers, if unlocked. It also has a stronger gpu so gaming, emulators in particular, will run better. It does not root very well.
The Exynos version tends to have better battery life, and a stronger cpu. It also gets root along with custom roms. It does not, however, work with Sprint or Verizon. They use CDMA radios that the Exynos models just do not have. Also, they apparently lack 1 of T-Mobile's radio bands, but should still mostly work.
You can go HERE to learn more about each individual model.
Clove UK - I have purchased my last three phones there - great people - great service.
international version warranty?
If I get the S9+ international from oversea, will it still have warranty in the US?
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The S9 and S9+ listed in that ebay sellers shop are the Chinese variants. Which basically means that they have the snapdragon processor, higher storage, and have a better chance of being rooted than any of the U.S. versions.
If you're new to buying outside carriers, it is good to know the benefits of each processor. Snapdragon has support for all U.S. carriers, if unlocked. It also has a stronger gpu so gaming, emulators in particular, will run better. It does not root very well.
The Exynos version tends to have better battery life, and a stronger cpu. It also gets root along with custom roms. It does not, however, work with Sprint or Verizon. They use CDMA radios that the Exynos models just do not have. Also, they apparently lack 1 of T-Mobile's radio bands, but should still mostly work.
You can go HERE to learn more about each individual model.
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Are you sure?
The S9+ Chinese market device SM-G9650 and SM-G9658 don't list LTE Band 13 to work with Verizon.
That site also shows UK devices with Band 13 which I don't think is correct?
SM-G965FZKDXEU
SM-G965FZVDXEU
Both showing with LTE Bands: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B12(700), B13(700), B17(700), B18(800), B19(800), B20(800), B25(1900), B26(800), B28(700), B32(1500), B66(AWS- 3)
That seems to directly contradict what Clove has on their website:
https://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s9-plus
I would take that Tech Walls link with a grain of salt because it seems to contradict what I'm seeing in many other places.
sireniankyle said:
The S9 and S9+ listed in that ebay sellers shop are the Chinese variants. Which basically means that they have the snapdragon processor, higher storage, and have a better chance of being rooted than any of the U.S. versions.
If you're new to buying outside carriers, it is good to know the benefits of each processor. Snapdragon has support for all U.S. carriers, if unlocked. It also has a stronger gpu so gaming, emulators in particular, will run better. It does not root very well.
The Exynos version tends to have better battery life, and a stronger cpu. It also gets root along with custom roms. It does not, however, work with Sprint or Verizon. They use CDMA radios that the Exynos models just do not have. Also, they apparently lack 1 of T-Mobile's radio bands, but should still mostly work.
You can go HERE to learn more about each individual model.
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You can purchase the Exynos variant here, manufactured in Viet Nam.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item56aa30d9fb:m:m0qNQjaZIJ3QM6T6OQZOZjA
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oipunx said:
If I get the S9+ international from oversea, will it still have warranty in the US?
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Nope
Got Black 256GB FD Exynos International unlocked variant
from Saudi Arabia here in Pakistan for 1085 dollars today.
varcor said:
You can purchase the Exynos variant here, manufactured in Viet Nam.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item56aa30d9fb:m:m0qNQjaZIJ3QM6T6OQZOZjA
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Nope
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Thanks varcor. What if I buy the international version from an ebay seller or online store in the US, will it have warranty then?
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Thanks varcor. What if I buy the international version from an ebay seller or online store in the US, will it have warranty then?
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not warranty in the US whereas the S9/S9+ coming with exynos ( SM-G960F/SM-G965F-DS) instead of snapdragon 845
The SM-G9600 and SM-G9650 have snapdragon 845, but I don´t know if these comes with CDMA ratio, but it´s very probably that they doesn´t come with US warranty ( also the 128GB and 256GB at this time has not been offered in the official Samsung store yet)
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Thanks varcor. What if I buy the international version from an ebay seller or online store in the US, will it have warranty then?
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You won't get a Factory Warranty however you can purchase a warranty here.
https://www.cpscentral.com/
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about buying a S9+ however, I'm not sure if I should get the Snapdragon version or the Exynos version. I live in Europe so the Exynos version is the one leading the market here.
I just want to know which version has the most popularity regarding ROMs, customizations and dev support If it's the snapdragon one, I'll bust my ass off to get that one
Thanks for you answers !
takichiman said:
Hey guys,
I'm thinking about buying a S9+ however, I'm not sure if I should get the Snapdragon version or the Exynos version. I live in Europe so the Exynos version is the one leading the market here.
I just want to know which version has the most popularity regarding ROMs, customizations and dev support If it's the snapdragon one, I'll bust my ass off to get that one
Thanks for you answers !
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Are you new to samsung? because the answer to your question is well known.
All the US and CAN snaps are bootloader locked rendering them 100% useless for development. Stay away!
The latin america and HK snaps are not locked but never see much development historically.
The exynos, as always is the one you want for roms etc and your lucky as its local for you.
I live in Canada and have to import exynos samsungs everytime i buy or buy from a company who does the same.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
force70 said:
Are you new to samsung? because the answer to your question is well known.
All the US and CAN snaps are bootloader locked rendering them 100% useless for development. Stay away!
The latin america and HK snaps are not locked but never see much development historically.
The exynos, as always is the one you want for roms etc and your lucky as its local for you.
I live in Canada and have to import exynos samsungs everytime i buy or buy from a company who does the same.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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Thanks for the answer man, I haven't used a Samsung phone since the Galaxy S2
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Thanks for the answer man, I haven't used a Samsung phone since the Galaxy S2
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Damn, yeah its been awhile lol.
Alot has changed since 2011!
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force70 said:
Are you new to samsung? because the answer to your question is well known.
All the US and CAN snaps are bootloader locked rendering them 100% useless for development. Stay away!
The latin america and HK snaps are not locked but never see much development historically.
The exynos, as always is the one you want for roms etc and your lucky as its local for you.
I live in Canada and have to import exynos samsungs everytime i buy or buy from a company who does the same.
sent from my Exynos S9 plus, Pixel 2 XL or Note FE
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The 96X0 Latin America/HK devices are seeing a lot more development this time around thanks to treble. There are already numerous standard GSI roms that work fairly well and bugs are bring fixed every day. There still is more with we exy though but if you need cdma or something the unlocked snaps aren't the wasteland they usually are
Hello i have owned my galaxy S9+ (SM-G965U1) for about a year now. Problem is that One UI has completely ruined my life and my entire experience with my phone. Back when it ran Oreo it was near perfect.
So i need help figuring out what the best S9+ with a unlocked bootloader is and where i might be able to buy them new that is.
My plan is to buy one with a unlocked bootloader so i will never have to deal with the piece of human excrement that is One UI
Thank you, this was the funniest post in forever. It has ruined your life. Omg, thank you!
Any Exynos model cam be rooted.
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tdevaughn said:
Thank you, this was the funniest post in forever. It has ruined your life. Omg, thank you!
Any Exynos model cam be rooted.
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Yes believe it or not it has truly made my life miserable. I don't understand why companies try to fix stuff that isn't broken.
To answer your question the snapdragon SM-G9650 varient Is OEM unlockable it is China, Brazil etc basically international version and any of the Exynos
Are I believe.
Exynos is good for development only as long as the official android is upgraded. But it's closed source with sammy proprietary blobs.
I've got a Note4 Exynos and officially it was upgraded to MM. Only because of months and years of miraculous work of a couple of developers, it's working (with a few hiccups) with TW nougat and up to oreo Lineage.
If you want to change the phone and got the cash after 2 years (or 3? ) of major upgrades from Samsung, then Exynos is OK.
As for me the OP7 (pro maybe) can cut a better deal. Huge deving possibility. And ain't got too much money to change the phone too often.
Good luck.
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To answer your question the snapdragon SM-G9650 varient Is OEM unlockable it is China, Brazil etc basically international version and any of the Exynos
Are I believe.
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Is this listing on Newegg the unlocked snapdragon variant? https://www.newegg.com/black-samsung-galaxy-s9-6-2-4g-lte/p/0V4-000B-00965?Item=9SIAENH92W4764
NitricWave said:
Is this listing on Newegg the unlocked snapdragon variant? https://www.newegg.com/black-samsung-galaxy-s9-6-2-4g-lte/p/0V4-000B-00965?Item=9SIAENH92W4764
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Yes that's the one there's also supposedly a dual SIM card version around that has 128GB and up but don't know where you get it or much beyond it's existence
But the one you linked is what I have currently.
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Yes that's the one there's also supposedly a dual SIM card version around that has 128GB and up but don't know where you get it or much beyond it's existence
But the one you linked is what I have currently.
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So yeah, The package arrived today and it turned out to be a counterfeit reproduction S9+. And i tried to file a claim and Newegg suspended my account. I'm not sure what to do in life itself at this point.
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So yeah, The package arrived today and it turned out to be a counterfeit reproduction S9+. And i tried to file a claim and Newegg suspended my account. I'm not sure what to do in life itself at this point.
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hmm... no idea thats a first i heard of newegg sell counterfit anything but essentially the model code for snapdragon unlocked is SM-G9650 Note: there is not a letter after the zero ive seen ones SM-G9650U and SM-G9650U1 not sure difference between the three mine i got through rent a center but assume you can get them online you can try amazon at least if you get a counterfit they will do something.
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Due to my current phone breaking down, I'm now searching for the cheapest phone available that is able to run a custom ROM, has a fingerprint scanner, and most importantly, is sold at a major store in my country (Costa Rica). The vast majority of phones I can find are either Huawei, which is notorious for being practically unhackable and therefore are a no-go, or Samsung, which is a 50/50 chance. From what I've gathered, the Samsung devices whose chipsets are compatible with modding (Exynos) are typically not available officially in Latin America (which usually carries the Snapdragon version instead) and so the Exynos versions must be imported from Europe, which might take months of shipping and end up overpriced. Despite of everything, however, after checking in several stores in my country, the Galaxy A10 seems to be the only phone I could find that lands in the sweetspot for capability and price - if only there was a way to mod it, that is. My question is, is it possible to know beforehand which models of the A10 are rootable and/or moddable in any way, and which ones are not? (Remember, my current phone is broken and so I must jot the compatible models down in order to compare before paying)
No 30-day money back guarantee? No CoD's? 1-800...
So basically not the us version a102u (the u is the start of the country code in the device f/w # ie.A102USQS5ATA7)
BUT I don't know if your internet shopping listing will provide you with that before purchasing. They may just say yes to get the sale. (Don't ask the barber if you need a haircut)
TLL
Get a unlocked LG k10 or Aristo series w/ the features
You require. Please wash your hands and disinfect all new phones and packages ?
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ArkBlitz said:
Due to my current phone breaking down, I'm now searching for the cheapest phone available that is able to run a custom ROM, has a fingerprint scanner, and most importantly, is sold at a major store in my country (Costa Rica). The vast majority of phones I can find are either Huawei, which is notorious for being practically unhackable and therefore are a no-go, or Samsung, which is a 50/50 chance. From what I've gathered, the Samsung devices whose chipsets are compatible with modding (Exynos) are typically not available officially in Latin America (which usually carries the Snapdragon version instead) and so the Exynos versions must be imported from Europe, which might take months of shipping and end up overpriced. Despite of everything, however, after checking in several stores in my country, the Galaxy A10 seems to be the only phone I could find that lands in the sweetspot for capability and price - if only there was a way to mod it, that is. My question is, is it possible to know beforehand which models of the A10 are rootable and/or moddable in any way, and which ones are not? (Remember, my current phone is broken and so I must jot the compatible models down in order to compare before paying)
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buy an a20, the a10 is extremely useless for developers
unfortunately
usa variants are not unlockable. its simple. every other variantshould be bl unlockable