Is it possible to install additional RAM to bring it up to 1 GB?
Pretty sure our memory on the G-Tab is soldered on; an additional slot is available but it's highly unlikely you'll find anyone wanting more memory enough to risk soldering on an additional 512mb unit.
I'll see if I can find the thread w/ pics of the innards and you can have a look for yourself.
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Here you are: G-Tablet Hardware Breakdown(w/ pics)
Not to mention the fact the device may not initialize the extra RAM. If it's like other embedded devices I've messed with you need to edit the bootloader to get it to "see" it.
Maybe we should take the bootloader from Malata ZPad?
It defaults to 1 GB of memory.
It remains to find the memory chips, but soldering to soldering station.
If no experience, it is better not to do it yourself.
Thanks guys. I was just curious. I guess I shouldn't complain. The G Tab is pretty peppy as it is (running Laurel Mountain 1.0.0 from Roebeet).
Total RAM < 512?
Using the "Android Assistan" app, it says I have 372.91 MB of Total Memory. I bought my G-Tab during the big Woot sale a few months ago like so many others. I thought I was getting a 512 MB tablet. What's the deal? Am I missing something?
p.s.
Under Settings>Applications>Running Services, I have the following parameters:
Other: 31MB in 2
Avail: 144MB + 120MB in 15
I can't find any numbers that add up to 512 :-(
Look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145032
Xoom got 1GB of memory, but, 256MB for dalvik vm, 256MB for GPU, 512MB for apps)
So, now with 4 cores, 512MB for apps will be enough?
Or maybe ASUS will be more generous and will give us a full 1GB memory for apps, without dalvik ou GPU?
I don't own a asus transformer (old version), I don't know how tegra 3 will work too. So I really don't know.
Anyone have a clue about it?
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navossoc said:
Look:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1145032
Xoom got 1GB of memory, but, 256MB for dalvik vm, 256MB for GPU, 512MB for apps)
So, now with 4 cores, 512MB for apps will be enough?
Or maybe ASUS will be more generous and will give us a full 1GB memory for apps, without dalvik ou GPU?
I don't own a asus transformer (old version), I don't know how tegra 3 will work too. So I really don't know.
Anyone have a clue about it?
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Interesting question, I heared that multitasking with 512 MB of RAM isn't very good because apps close very soon due the lack of memory.
When Windows 95 shipped, a typical PC had 8MB of RAM, and now this tablet has 125 times that much.
I'm guessing the nature of Android requires less RAM that a desktop OS:
http://davidquintana.com/entry/mobile-multitasking
I hope not!
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Ectoplasmic said:
When Windows 95 shipped, a typical PC had 8MB of RAM, and now this tablet has 125 times that much.
I'm guessing the nature of Android requires less RAM that a desktop OS:
http://davidquintana.com/entry/mobile-multitasking
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I know a tablet require less memory, they should at least...
But if we got more ram, more complex applications/games can be developed!
We have now some restriction about compress/uncompress files because of the amount of ram free/avaliable at the device.
Let's wait some one put their hands at the tablet and say to us
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Every Android device is like this: some RAM is used by the system, some RAM is used by the video frame buffer, and some RAM is used for applications. Every time a new device is released, this forum and others are filled with complaints like "I don't have 1GB RAM!!! ASUS screwed me!!!" The fact is that there IS 1GB of RAM, it's just being actually USED as it's supposed to be. And, if we had only 512MB of RAM, then far less would be available for running applications.
Furthermore, the number of cores has nothing to do with this--it's not like there's a linear relationship where more cores equals the ability to run more apps. Or, that we're somehow going to be crippled vs. a device with a dual-core processor. We'll be able to run the same number of apps as any other 1GB device, only more efficiently and quickly.
It would be nice to have 2GB, of course, but then the device would just be more expensive.
Plus honeycomb and Especially Ice Cream Sandwich do a great job of memory management. You could always root n use some app to freeze some apps/system processes you don't need or use to free up ram. I think using those free ram apps does more harm than good with later dated android OS versions. Of course more RAM would be ideal but 1GB is good enough for the prime. There is nothing or any type of apps or games out now for any tablet that truly demands more of that. People don't need that much multitasking going on to have a million things running in background. All that'll do is burn up the battery..lol
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Plus honeycomb and Especially Ice Cream Sandwich do a great job of memory management. You could always root n use some app to freeze some apps/system processes you don't need or use to free up ram. I think using those free ram apps does more harm than good with later dated android OS versions. Of course more RAM would be ideal but 1GB is good enough for the prime. There is nothing or any type of apps or games out now for any tablet that truly demands more of that. People don't need that much multitasking going on to have a million things running in background. All that'll do is burn up the battery..lol
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I think if will be the same number of memory modules, don't have any relationship with battery time.
Some websites eat so much ram and processing (bad developed sites), so, I think the navigation will be more smoother if we get more RAM.
Anyway, I'm thinking in buy one too, but, maybe I will wait for a version with 2GB.
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The RAM in this tablet is hell of a lot faster than the previous TF101. Along with the faster GPU, and CPU, this thing should multitask a lot better than previous dual-core tablets.
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I think if will be the same number of memory modules, don't have any relationship with battery time.
Some websites eat so much ram and processing (bad developed sites), so, I think the navigation will be more smoother if we get more RAM.
Anyway, I'm thinking in buy one too, but, maybe I will wait for a version with 2GB.
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You are right about websites. Web browsers n sites can eat up RAM fast as he'll. More tabs open, more ram eaten up. SH!?, my iPad only has 256MB RAM total and I make due with it..lol browser shuts down at times due to too much ram used or too many tabs open. Heavy duty games will eat it up also.
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The RAM in this tablet is hell of a lot faster than the previous TF101. Along with the faster GPU, and CPU, this thing should multitask a lot better than previous dual-core tablets.
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Yep, the Prime has a faster/more advanced memory module or something. Plus several vids showed it multitasking like crazy. Andyx, member here, even showed a vid with his prime loaded with widgets on all home screens and stuff running in background. It still moved fast n smoothly between pages in such. No slowdown at all.
I multitask on first Transformer and had an app restart in the middle of it maybe one time - when sth was clogging the system (a broken game or sth). Browsers can be a problem though, the more memory they have, the happier (faster) they are. Games use a lot of graphic memory, so the more of it, the better (256 for 2D games is more than enough, but for 3D games nothing is enough ).
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Plus honeycomb and Especially Ice Cream Sandwich do a great job of memory management. You could always root n use some app to freeze some apps/system processes you don't need or use to free up ram. I think using those free ram apps does more harm than good with later dated android OS versions. Of course more RAM would be ideal but 1GB is good enough for the prime. There is nothing or any type of apps or games out now for any tablet that truly demands more of that. People don't need that much multitasking going on to have a million things running in background. All that'll do is burn up the battery..lol
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1GB RAM was not enough for me on original Transformer.
On SGS2, I usually get around 500MB of free RAM and that feels sufficient for me.
But on Original TF, with 730ish visible/350ish free, together with more sophisticated apps, RAM easily runs out... The browser will be killed as soon as leaving it.
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1GB RAM was not enough for me on original Transformer.
On SGS2, I usually get around 500MB of free RAM and that feels sufficient for me.
But on Original TF, with 730ish visible/350ish free, together with more sophisticated apps, RAM easily runs out... The browser will be killed as soon as leaving it.
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Yeah phones can deal with ot better. Tblets different story. I guess I'm thinkn since iPad had only 256mb RAM, upgrading to new tablet with 1GB RAM would seem ideal..lol
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Yeah phones can deal with ot better. Tblets different story. I guess I'm thinkn since iPad had only 256mb RAM, upgrading to new tablet with 1GB RAM would seem ideal..lol
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iOS is not as memory thirsty as Android... Not sure about the mechanism behind but that's what happens. The newer tablets after TF201 will probably pack 2GB of RAM.
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iOS is not as memory thirsty as Android... Not sure about the mechanism behind but that's what happens. The newer tablets after TF201 will probably pack 2GB of RAM.
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I believe I heard Samsung and Lenovo new line of tablets coming out near future will pack 2GB of RAM. I wish at least the memory could be upgraded as easily in tablets as with PC. Imagine packing 6-8GB of RAM into Prime
dont forget, more ram means also more battery drain. Ram sucks quite alot.
Of course more is always better^^ But i think "only" 1gb wont be a bottleneck for the prime.
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I believe I heard Samsung and Lenovo new line of tablets coming out near future will pack 2GB of RAM. I wish at least the memory could be upgraded as easily in tablets as with PC. Imagine packing 6-8GB of RAM into Prime
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Yes you heard correct.I posted the link a few threads back.The Lenovo tablet itself will have 2gb of ddr3 ram.Which is a faster ram than the ddr2 ram in the Prime.But I also hear the Lenovo tablet will be a lot thicker (yuck lol).No telling how much ram Samsung will have to put in their 11.6 inch screen (2500x1600) ..that screen is going to be a battery/ram eater lol.
The Lenovo tab is making me doubt getting the Prime as if all the ICS tabs that were made for it feature 2GB RAM then it must mean ICS will benefit from it.
Granted its not as thin as the Prime and wont have a keyboard but prerformace will be better.
As far as the Samsung ICS tab..that will be EXPENSIVE because of the screen, I expect it to be around £599 as currently high res screens that size are in small yields.
I have a HTC Sensation which has "768 MB" of RAM, but a lot of it is used in normal use. I mean a LOT. I normally only have about 100 MB of free RAM. This is how essentially all Android devices are.
Yea, there are going to be some tablets coming out partway through 2012 with 2 GB of RAM, but quite frankly Lenovo products don't do anything for me because they're typically so ugly, and I'm not interested in a Samsung tablet if they put Touchwiz on it.
While I would like 2 GB of RAM, you have to consider that the TF Prime is IMO ushering the beginning of the 2nd generation of Android tablets. No company so far has put such an effort into an Android tablet. Look at the Motorola Droid XyBoard, Motorola's successor to the Xoom. It's absolutely pathetic compared to the TF Prime. Until the TF Prime, every tablet maker so far has been half-assing Android tablets, giving them basically the same specs as always. The TF Prime brings in the true beginning of 2nd gen specs, and it still comes in cheaper than the half-assed XyBoard. Considering that, I'm not surprised that Asus can't make absolutely every spec on the TF Prime amazing. They have to make money on it somehow lol.
I don't think a "super resolution" will be good for us.
Ok, Tegra 3 is X times faster than Tegra 2, but my Xoom got a 1280x800 screen.
Now, 2500x1600? holy ****! too many pixels to handle...
Lenovo? don't have a keyboard.
Samsung? don't like they software modifications...
A asus "prime 2" with 2gb and a faster ddr3? I will got one
Let's wait and see what the future has to offer.
Hi everybody, I'm Gabri, I've bought this nice Lg L9 II and I need help
The phone is branded, and out of the box I found already installed in it Android 4.4.2.
After having stopped and disabled the unwanted brand apps, I checked the resources and I had a bad surprise. Considering that the specs are 1GB of RAM and 8 GB of ROM, I have only 240 free MB of RAM and 3.07 GB of ROM available. And I haven't even installed any app or started to use the phone. Is it normal?
Thank you four your help / advices guys.
Yes it's normal. The 8 GB storage is divided in two partitions, 4 GB each. One for the android system and one for apps, music, photos etc. The pre-installed apps are using 1 GB of the second partition so you have 3 GB available.
As for the RAM many apps start running by default when the the phone boots (keyboard, dialer, sms, maps, weather etc) and the system automatically stops some of this apps to free RAM when needed to run other apps.
thank you l3t0m,
this makes me think that kitkat is very eager of resources, so how is it possible that you can find kitkat also in devices with only 4GB of ROM and 512MB of RAM? considering that my phone has 8GB and 1GB and more than half of both are already taken by the system....
One more question: the used RAM memory is 523MB (even if the processes in the list of the active apps do not reach that amount of occupied RAM at all), and the free RAM is only 240MB... so where is the rest of memory necessary to have a total amount of 1GB??
Sorry for such a kind of questions, maybe the everyday experience with the device is still satisfying and one should not worry about this stuff (yet I don't have a direct comparison with previous android versions in my device), but I simply would like to understand if everything is ok or maybe I need to changes something to have the best possible experience with this nice L9 II.
Thank you!
The devices with 4 GB ROM have about 1,5 GB available for the user which is obviously not so much considering that many popular apps are taking up to 100 mb and if you use a GPS navigator the maps also need some hundreds mb of storage to be downloaded on your device. Add to this the frequent app updates and the photos/videos you shoot with the 8MP/1080p camera and you will be out of storage.
I think that 8 GB is the minimum you need to have the best experience with a device like the L9 II.
I have no idea why the rest of the 1 GB RAM is not showing (that's happening on my device also), maybe someone with more technical knowledge could explain this. Anyway, as far as the device works fine (and it does!) there is no reason to worry about.
Less than 1 month I have bought in Paris a chinese mobile phone Oale X1 with brillant 1280x720 5.5" dispay, 2 dual cameras + led in front, 2 dual cameras + led in rear, fingerprint, 2 GB RAM, 16 GB Internal Memory, 4G LTE and Android Marshmallow 6.0 as major official specifications.
The phone system information displays also the same RAM, Internal Memory and OS version information.
After one week of usage, my Oale X1 has started lagging, freezing and often crashing too many apps (Browser, Services Exchange, E-mail, Facebook, Opera Mini Beta, Whatsapp, Super Cleaner, Pages Jaunes, Gmail...) even the phone is displayed 850 MB free in the RAM!!! and for only 5.1 GB occupation of internal memory which should have a total storage capacity about 16 GB.
Even a 16 GB SD card inserted ant the parameter /settings/storage/default write disk is set on SD Card, movable apps cannot be moved or installed in that external memory.
For using that phone, I have started to clean files (especially Whasapp) for keeping the internal capacity below 4.7 GB, over that value problems occure.
In doubt, I have decided to check the phone specs, system information displayed by Oale X1 mobile phone seems fake because the Android version displayed by X1 Oale is Marshmallow (6.0) but many system info apps and ADB appropriate command always tell Android version is Lollipop 5.1 (see below):
[gsm.version.baseband1]: [MOLY.WR8.W1449.MD.WG.MP.V6.P6, 2016/10/12 09:30]
[gsm.version.baseband]: [MOLY.WR8.W1449.MD.WG.MP.V6.P6, 2016/10/12 09:30]
[ro.build.description]: [full_gxq6580_weg_l-user 5.1 LMY47I 1498655199 test-keys]
[ro.build.id]: [LMY47I]
[ro.build.product]: [gxq6580_weg_l]
[ro.build.version.release]: [5.1]
[ro.build.version.sdk]: [22]
[ro.mediatek.platform]: [MT6580]
[ro.mediatek.project.path]: [device/gxq/gxq6580_weg_l]
[ro.mediatek.version.branch]: [L1.MP6]
[ro.mediatek.version.release]: [ALPS.L1.MP6.V2_GXQ6580.WEG.L_P69]
I have also checked the internal memory capacity with Disk Digger Pro which returns an overall capacity limit to 5.27 GB instead of official 16 GB.
Android version and internal capacity are both false, it seems Oale X1 is sending fake information to customer.
Where is the thruth with O(r)ale X1? Internat memory 5.27 GB or 16 Gb? Android version 5.1 or 6.0?
The Oale (former Orale company) support web pageprovides not useful information at all : no rom available, no OTA upgrade...
The same vaccuum with the company.
I do not know if the memory capacity has a physical limitation to 5.27 GB or it is limited by software? If it is a softwra limitation where to find a rom version that can release it.
As more than one chinese phone often share a common hardware platform, I am looking for roms without password those could fix these problems and/or take better advantage from Oale X1 hardware paltform.
Where could I find them out?
Thanks for any help.
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Ihave the same problem Tell me do You fixet?
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Same problems for my phone x1
So any solution for that
This is not any reputed Chinese company.. Dont expect too much from this company with this low price. All information provided by company is fake.. It have stock android 5.0 & memory also 5-6 GB... Even dual cams are also fake... If u really want best phone with less price than go for Xiaomi or Asus
kinoislbv said:
Less than 1 month I have bought in Paris a chinese mobile phone Oale X1 with brillant 1280x720 5.5" dispay, 2 dual cameras + led in front, 2 dual cameras + led in rear, fingerprint, 2 GB RAM, 16 GB Internal Memory, 4G LTE and Android Marshmallow 6.0 as major official specifications.
The phone system information displays also the same RAM, Internal Memory and OS version information.
After one week of usage, my Oale X1 has started lagging, freezing and often crashing too many apps (Browser, Services Exchange, E-mail, Facebook, Opera Mini Beta, Whatsapp, Super Cleaner, Pages Jaunes, Gmail...) even the phone is displayed 850 MB free in the RAM!!! and for only 5.1 GB occupation of internal memory which should have a total storage capacity about 16 GB.
Even a 16 GB SD card inserted ant the parameter /settings/storage/default write disk is set on SD Card, movable apps cannot be moved or installed in that external memory.
For using that phone, I have started to clean files (especially Whasapp) for keeping the internal capacity below 4.7 GB, over that value problems occure.
In doubt, I have decided to check the phone specs, system information displayed by Oale X1 mobile phone seems fake because the Android version displayed by X1 Oale is Marshmallow (6.0) but many system info apps and ADB appropriate command always tell Android version is Lollipop 5.1 (see below):
[gsm.version.baseband1]: [MOLY.WR8.W1449.MD.WG.MP.V6.P6, 2016/10/12 09:30]
[gsm.version.baseband]: [MOLY.WR8.W1449.MD.WG.MP.V6.P6, 2016/10/12 09:30]
[ro.build.description]: [full_gxq6580_weg_l-user 5.1 LMY47I 1498655199 test-keys]
[ro.build.id]: [LMY47I]
[ro.build.product]: [gxq6580_weg_l]
[ro.build.version.release]: [5.1]
[ro.build.version.sdk]: [22]
[ro.mediatek.platform]: [MT6580]
[ro.mediatek.project.path]: [device/gxq/gxq6580_weg_l]
[ro.mediatek.version.branch]: [L1.MP6]
[ro.mediatek.version.release]: [ALPS.L1.MP6.V2_GXQ6580.WEG.L_P69]
I have also checked the internal memory capacity with Disk Digger Pro which returns an overall capacity limit to 5.27 GB instead of official 16 GB.
Android version and internal capacity are both false, it seems Oale X1 is sending fake information to customer.
Where is the thruth with O(r)ale X1? Internat memory 5.27 GB or 16 Gb? Android version 5.1 or 6.0?
The Oale (former Orale company) support web pageprovides not useful information at all : no rom available, no OTA upgrade...
The same vaccuum with the company.
I do not know if the memory capacity has a physical limitation to 5.27 GB or it is limited by software? If it is a softwra limitation where to find a rom version that can release it.
As more than one chinese phone often share a common hardware platform, I am looking for roms without password those could fix these problems and/or take better advantage from Oale X1 hardware paltform.
Where could I find them out?
Thanks for any help.
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