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Hi all,
Let's say you could switch from a Mate 20 Pro to any other device, which would it be and why?
Many thanks in advance
It's hard to say goodbye to batterylife, chargingspeed and camera combo for me. But if had to choose, it would be a Galaxy Note 9 for me. This because of the great display and 4000mah battery.
I had the note 8 and therefor the S8 plus and wasn't totally dissatisfied with them
I too, would switch to a Samsung Galaxy Note series smartphone because of DEX. Samsung DEX is by far way ahead of Huawei's EMUI 9 dektop mode.
Back to my huawei mate 10 pro....
Much better camera quality so far......
lllnutslll said:
Hi all,
Let's say you could switch from a Mate 20 Pro to any other device, which would it be and why?
Many thanks in advance
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I currently have a Mate 20 Pro and a Pixel 3 XL, I'm deciding what one to keep.
The Mate 20 pro has many things going for it, a few major gripes for me that are pushing me back to the Pixel
- Camera - Still shots of scenary etc are great, when it comes to people it's quite bad especially with portrait. Skin tones are always off, I have turned off beauty etc as much as you can.
- Fingerprint scanner - This is good when it works, I need it for various password, banking and other apps. It can be infuriating and definitely has some improvement technology wise. In contrast, the plain old pixel 3XL fingerprint scanner works every time. Face unlock is great though ;o)
- Screen - I have a green tint on the edges as described many many times on the forum, mine is a BOE screen so it's not the LG issue. It's more the curvature of the glass as when I tilt at angles it goes away.
Battery life is better then the PIxel Xl 3 but not much once fully optimised on the Pixel.
The mate is still an amazing, the Pixel 3XL is boring but just sort of works all the time. I also don't have to deal with silly duplicate applications and constantly removing permissions every time an app is updated.
A Pixel on Mate 20 Pro hardware with improved fingerprint and screen would quite frankly destroy anything IMO
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I currently have a Mate 20 Pro and a Pixel 3 XL, I'm deciding what one to keep.
The Mate 20 pro has many things going for it, a few major gripes for me that are pushing me back to the Pixel
- Camera - Still shots of scenary etc are great, when it comes to people it's quite bad especially with portrait. Skin tones are always off, I have turned off beauty etc as much as you can.
- Fingerprint scanner - This is good when it works, I need it for various password, banking and other apps. It can be infuriating and definitely has some improvement technology wise. In contrast, the plain old pixel 3XL fingerprint scanner works every time. Face unlock is great though ;o)
- Screen - I have a green tint on the edges as described many many times on the forum, mine is a BOE screen so it's not the LG issue. It's more the curvature of the glass as when I tilt at angles it goes away.
Battery life is better then the PIxel Xl 3 but not much once fully optimised on the Pixel.
The mate is still an amazing, the Pixel 3XL is boring but just sort of works all the time. I also don't have to deal with silly duplicate applications and constantly removing permissions every time an app is updated.
A Pixel on Mate 20 Pro hardware with improved fingerprint and screen would quite frankly destroy anything IMO
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I was in the same place as you. I agree, landscapes are good. Human subjects are hit n miss and if they move the motion blur is a disappointment. I'm back on the pixel 2 xl, but have the itch for somthing new... but what!?
That's a tricky one.
I switch between Android and iOS every 2-3 years and came to the M20P from an iPhone X. If I hadn't switched I would probably have gotten the iPhone XS Max.
I've never really liked Samsung but quite like the look of One UI so, if you asked in a month or so maybe I'd say one of the Galaxy S10 variants.
I came from the note 9 and like the mate much much better than that. I'm putting my note 9 512gb up for sale
Honor View 20 just ordered. Headphone jack!!
The View 20 does look nice but I just couldn't get on with a rear fingerprint scanner.
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The View 20 does look nice but I just couldn't get on with a rear fingerprint scanner.
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face unlock on v20. never need to touch a fingerprint sensor unless you use android pay
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face unlock on v20. never need to touch a fingerprint sensor unless you use android pay
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The under display fingerprint sensor is superb on the Mate 20 Pro as multiple fingers IDs can be recorded. The Mate 20 Pro has a triple security mechanism being 1) Face ID 2) Finger print ID and 3) numerical passcode.
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Honor View 20 just ordered. Headphone jack!!
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The Mate 20 Pro comes with a USB-C to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter.
something rootable
Having a front-mounted fingerprint reader is just good when the phone is on a table, saves having to pick it up to unlock.
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Having a front-mounted fingerprint reader is just good when the phone is on a table, saves having to pick it up to unlock.
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Totally agree. I use my point finger to unlock when the Mate 20 Pro is on the table and use my thumb when the device is in my hand hence the innovative ability to use multiple fingerprint IDs.
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The under display fingerprint sensor is superb on the Mate 20 Pro as multiple fingers IDs can be recorded. The Mate 20 Pro has a triple security mechanism being 1) Face ID 2) Finger print ID and 3) numerical passcode.
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The Mate 20 Pro comes with a USB-C to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter.
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can you charge the phone while 3.5mm plugged into the adaptor?
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Totally agree. I use my point finger to unlock when the Mate 20 Pro is on the table and use my thumb when the device is in my hand hence the innovative ability to use multiple fingerprint IDs.
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the face unlock camera is on the front too
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can you charge the phone while 3.5mm plugged into the adaptor?
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I am unable to charge the smartphone while the USB-C to 3.5mm adapter is plugged in unless I use wireless charging.
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can you charge the phone while 3.5mm plugged into the adaptor?
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the face unlock camera is on the front too
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Yes, the face unlock camera is on the front but the Mate 20 Pro's face recognition camera is not as good as Apple's on the XS, XS Max or XR.
I'm switching back to apple when they release the new iphone... After 2 huawei phones, android just disappoints me. Not getting notifications which needs constant restarting, the fingerprint scanner barely works, the green screen bleed is annoying, the promised 3D object scanning is still not working properly, Bluetooth audio peripherals disconnects or plays no sounds and requires a phone reboot to start working again, wireless charging is cluncky, the phone needs to be very precise with the charger or it won't work. All in all its a frustrating experience when you just want things to work...
Of course there are some nice things like the battery life or super charging... But i think ill live without these things...
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I'm switching back to apple when they release the new iphone... After 2 huawei phones, android just disappoints me. Not getting notifications which needs constant restarting, the fingerprint scanner barely works, the green screen bleed is annoying, the promised 3D object scanning is still not working properly, Bluetooth audio peripherals disconnects or plays no sounds and requires a phone reboot to start working again, wireless charging is cluncky, the phone needs to be very precise with the charger or it won't work. All in all its a frustrating experience when you just want things to work...
Of course there are some nice things like the battery life or super charging... But i think ill live without these things...
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Please don't judge Android purely on Huawei phones. A pixel is a very different experience. Everything " just works" like an iPhone, but with the freedom of Android.
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I came from the note 9 and like the mate much much better than that. I'm putting my note 9 512gb up for sale
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Can I please ask which advantages does the Mate 20 Pro have over the Note 9 according to you?
Having opted for a Mate 20 Pro (presumably because of things like battery life, cameras and in-screen fingerprint reader) and now that we're entering the 2019 release cycle (Galaxy 10's incoming, P30 Pro not too far away) what features do you want in your next phone?
- Hole punch camera or slider, or are you happy with a notch for proper facial recognition?
- An ultrasonic in-screen fingerprint reader?
- Better rear cameras with higher optical zoom?
- Drop the curved screen?
I'm talking about physical features rather than software related things like EMUI & locked bootloaders but, on that note, would you go for another Huawei knowing what you do about the M20Pro?
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Having opted for a Mate 20 Pro (presumably because of things like battery life, cameras and in-screen fingerprint reader) and now that we're entering the 2019 release cycle (Galaxy 10's incoming, P30 Pro not too far away) what features do you want in your next phone?
- Hole punch camera or slider, or are you happy with a notch for proper facial recognition?
- An ultrasonic in-screen fingerprint reader?
- Better rear cameras with higher optical zoom?
- Drop the curved screen?
I'm talking about physical features rather than software related things like EMUI & locked bootloaders but, on that note, would you go for another Huawei knowing what you do about the M20Pro?
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Better screen with no hw bugs
Faster on screen fingerprint reader
Better emui on huawei case
I think thats all, every spec in a smartphone nowsdays is more than enough. The only thing left is to take all of it and do it right with quality standards.
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I'd like to see dual monitor support via HDMI when connected to EMUI desktop mode. (1920x1080)+(1920x1080)=3840x1080.
Also, if the EMUI desktop mode could permit direct SMS text messaging via desktop mode similar to that of Samsung DEX mode.
Ubuntu Linux on Huawei EMUI
I would like to see flagship phone that is less fragile. If phone like M20pro have charger this fast so wireless charging is not a necessity, at least give me an option for aluminium back. Also a phone with less or no compromises with under 1k price. I personally don't care about gimmicks like s pen or reverse charging etc. IR blaster is cool, I use it all the time. That's why I chose M20pro vs Note9.
My next purchase will be very carefully considered and almost certainly not a Huawei. Mainly because I have faced touchscreen lag on the P20 pro and now the Mate 20 Pro. Also the P20 Pro monochrome sensor made night mode much much better than the Mate 20 Pro so I think Huawei have lost their advantage. I used to do pitch black or very low light pin sharp night mode shots on the P20 pro, but in exactly the same scenario on the Mate 20 pro, you have camera shake which ruins the shot.
As for my next phone:
High touch screen response / sensitivity / low ms.
4-5,000 mah battery with battery life to match (12hrs SOT)
Flat screen (Screen protector friendly)
Pin sharp selfie camera (such as Pixel or One plus)
3D Face unlock
No pinhole selfie camera
Excellent video recording (stereo and handles concert scenarios)
Excellent low light camera, and fast shutter speed for indoor / pets etc (ala Pixel 2)
Powerful, loud stereo Dolby atmos speakers.
As I go along I feel this is never going to happen. This above is a mix of the Razer phone 2 and the Mate 20 Pro.
I've seen lots of complaints regarding the Pixel 6 Pro and while I was considering upgrading, I'm now not sure on what to do.
I honestly don't know. Mine is coming today. Personally I decided to go with the smaller pixel 6. I usually don't get a phone on launch day i like to wait for at least 6 months because every phone that has ever been made has problems. But in this case i figured the 6 couldn't be much worse than the pixel 5 which is what i have now so i got it. If the tensor chip proves to be all its claiming and the phone is really as good as it looks then i will get the pro and give the base model to my wife.
Okay cool, let me know what you think of it
Depends on what you're upgrading from. I'm coming from a OP6, so this will be a welcomed upgrade
Depends what you're upgrading from I guess.
I had an Experia 5ii, great little device with a sometimes awesome camera but as time's gone on the proximity sensor doesn't seem to work well and it drops a lot of calls. So as a phone, a bit pants!
What I've noticed so far with the P6.
Display is lovely, going from 120hz to to 90hz wasn't a big deal, it's still smooth. Brightness and colours are the best I've had on a device.
Using it as a phone seems to work well, and in the car it maintains reception.
Haptics are really nice and clicky
Camera is good so far, especially in lower light which in the UK is important!
Batery is good, about 36 hours in normal use.
Fingerprint sensor is OK, it's not great and takes time to register but it's fine.
It is quite heavy.
In use, it's snappy and smooth. I don't game on the phone but for everything else it's quick.
The only real irritating things I can find is the slightly slow FP reader and I can't seem to get rid of the new small at-a-glance on the home screen, I want the old one back!
Diablo2424 said:
Depends on what you're upgrading from. I'm coming from a OP6, so this will be a welcomed upgrade
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Coming from a galaxy a71.
MrN1484 said:
Depends what you're upgrading from I guess.
I had an Experia 5ii, great little device with a sometimes awesome camera but as time's gone on the proximity sensor doesn't seem to work well and it drops a lot of calls. So as a phone, a bit pants!
What I've noticed so far with the P6.
Display is lovely, going from 120hz to to 90hz wasn't a big deal, it's still smooth. Brightness and colours are the best I've had on a device.
Using it as a phone seems to work well, and in the car it maintains reception.
Haptics are really nice and clicky
Camera is good so far, especially in lower light which in the UK is important!
Batery is good, about 36 hours in normal use.
Fingerprint sensor is OK, it's not great and takes time to register but it's fine.
It is quite heavy.
In use, it's snappy and smooth. I don't game on the phone but for everything else it's quick.
The only real irritating things I can find is the slightly slow FP reader and I can't seem to get rid of the new small at-a-glance on the home screen, I want the old one back!
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Is the fingerprint sensor really slow or is it about the same as other under display optical sensors? As for at-a-glance is that mostly just personal taste?
Courtrick said:
Is the fingerprint sensor really slow or is it about the same as other under display optical sensors? As for at-a-glance is that mostly just personal taste?
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I had a Xiaomi mi9t Pro with an in display reader and from what I can remember it's about the same.
The permanent (as far as I can tell) at a glance is in the top left corner so you have to stretch your thumb all the way across the screen vs the older widget which you can place anywhere.
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I had a Xiaomi mi9t Pro with an in display reader and from what I can remember it's about the same.
The permanent (as far as I can tell) at a glance is in the top left corner so you have to stretch your thumb all the way across the screen vs the older widget which you can place anywhere.
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I've never used a pixel before but apparently at a glance is one of the main features, let's hope they change this soon and okay at least the fingerprint sensor is not worse than others.
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I've never used a pixel before but apparently at a glance is one of the main features, let's hope they change this soon and okay at least the fingerprint sensor is not worse than others.
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We maybe talking at cross purposes... I've attached a couple of screenshots.
I much prefer the at a glance widget which has been available for a few years with the Google Assistant vs the fixed new one in the top left corner.
This is my first pixel, I've had pho es running Pixel Experience before but no Pixel up until now appealed to me, there was always a compromise too far whereas this seems to tick all the boxes, an SD card reader would have been nice though.
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We maybe talking at cross purposes... I've attached a couple of screenshots.
I much prefer the at a glance widget which has been available for a few years with the Google Assistant vs the fixed new one in the top left corner.
This is my first pixel, I've had pho es running Pixel Experience before but no Pixel up until now appealed to me, there was always a compromise too far whereas this seems to tick all the boxes, an SD card reader would have been nice though.
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I see what you mean, I agree with you on preferring the original at a glance widget.
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Coming from a galaxy a71.
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Looking at the specs of the regular a71 vs the Pixel 6 (https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=11037&idPhone2=9995), it looks like the Pixel 6 has a smaller screen, but better gorilla glass, much faster CPU/GPU, about the same camera's (maybe a little worse on the Pixel 6, but don't forget Google has a lot of software tweaks to their photos that will help boost the quality above the a71), faster USB, WiFi 6 support and 5G support if you don't have the a71 5g version. The a71 does have a MicroSD slot which the Pixel 6 doesn't have if that's an important feature to you. Oh and the Pixel 6 is IP68 rated, but the a71 doesn't show any IP rating.
Basically the Pixel 6 is a smaller screen, faster phone (CPU, GPU, 5G and WiFi) with equivalent camera quality, but doesn't allow you to expand the storage. So it would be an upgrade, but not a MAJOR upgrade as the a71 is still a very good phone by 2021 standards.
I upgraded from a P3a XL to the P6. I simply will not spend $800-$1200 on a phone that is going to be obsolete in a couple of years. That's why I've stayed with the "A" series Pixels until now. The P6 was a bit of a budget stretch, but the phone is so much better than the "A" series phones that it was worth the extra $100-150 to me.
For me personally, the P6 Pro doesn't offer enough benefits to justify the $300 price difference - that's a 50% increase in price over the P6. Obviously everything in the Pro is slightly better than the P6, but I didn't feel that everything was 50% better.
That being said, the P6 is a great phone and I am very happy with it so far. Of course I've only had it for about 24 hours now. The in-screen fingerprint reader has worked fine for me. It is a "touch and hold" motion (need to hold for almost a second before it unlocks), but I've had probably 90% success with my first touch. It's not as fast or as reliable has the rear reader on the P3 XL, but I actually like the front placement better than the rear. I didn't think I was going to say that, but being able to unlocked the phone while it is sitting on a table without picking it up is really nice. The front reader is also placed in the perfect spot to read your thumb when you do pick it up too.
It's been raining here, so I haven't really tried out the cameras, but I believe they are as good as the former Pixels. Not better yet, but as good. I honestly expect the camera performance to get better as Google continues to tweak the software for the new sensor and lenses. The old sensor was tweaked for years and years to get it to the current quality level. If Google can start at that level with the new sensor, I am quite happy.
Just got my pixel6, coming from a year on a redmagic flagship. Pixel feels like a downgrade.
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I had a Xiaomi mi9t Pro with an in display reader and from what I can remember it's about the same.
The permanent (as far as I can tell) at a glance is in the top left corner so you have to stretch your thumb all the way across the screen vs the older widget which you can place anywhere.oming from a mi9t Pro
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Second this. I'm coming from a mi9t Pro and the fingerprint scanner on the Pixel 6 seems to be the same.
Coming from a 3a, my biggest reservation is the size. There are places where my 3a fits well -- certain pockets, in my car when plugged in, while cycling., etc. -- and the added size of the 6 might just be too much. I might have opted for the 5a, but the way they soft-pedaled and restricted the release makes me afraid it will be somewhat of an orphan product. Decisions, decisions...
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Just got my pixel6, coming from a year on a redmagic flagship. Pixel feels like a downgrade.
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Care to elaborate? Interested in what you don't like compared to the Redmagic.
Hi to all I have problem in my Mi 10 camera ultra wide camera hang then I need to close camera app main camera lens and micro working ok
Hi, do you still face that problem? I bought a used Mi 10 with broken screen a month ago to sell it with a better price. I launched a camera, tested main functions including all cameras and haven't experienced any problem. I guess it was one of the previous generations because after update they introduced me a new a'la iOS notification panel. I decided to update software - because why not - now it's MIUI 13, and didn't check remaining functions. After all I took the phone apart and replaced the screen. I tested everything and I got scared because of the ultrawide lens. Now I don't know if the reason was too big pressure put on the UW lens to glue the screen, I put extra soft layers on screen and a battery cover to properly distribute weight (I already repaired a few phones and none of them got damaged in any way) taking care about a cameras' island.
Also I bought another cameras' island and unfortunately there's no difference.
I'll try to downgrade the OS to the oldest version and let you know about the result.
Always you can successfully access the stock camera by 3D touch on main screen and select among a few modes: Pro, Photo and Video
I believe that the screen fingerprint unlock system of my S23 ultra is a bit worse than the one on my S22 ultra. Although the fingerprint area is larger in S23 ultra than its predecessor, I ended up with many missed tries of screen unlocking. My s23 ultra is 918B , SEK csc (from initial EUX). It is very early to having results but if anyone has something to say , it would be welcomed.
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I believe that the screen fingerprint unlock system of my S23 ultra is a bit worse than the one on my S22 ultra. Although the fingerprint area is larger in S23 ultra than its predecessor, I ended up with many missed tries of screen unlocking. My s23 ultra is 918B , SEK csc (from initial EUX). It is very early to having results but if anyone has something to say , it would be welcomed.
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I don't see a big difference. My recommendation would be to register a second time your fingerprint (as a 2nd fingerprint, not registering it over the original one you performed) with slight different positioning over your scanner, it might help.
Mine seems a lot less accurate than S21U. I rarely ever had to retry unless my hands were dirty, but with the S23U I am failing many times a day.
Compared to my Note 9's dedicated fingerprint sensor on the underneath (my previous phone) it's a flat-out fail, both in terms of accuracy as well as ergonomics
Is it Qualcomm 3D Sonic Sensor Gen 2? i saw a video that show the same size and Qualcomm said it was bigger.
Definitely seems fastest of the 3 other devices i've had recently the chance to use recently
Oppo Find X5 Pro - optical but has had a reasonable error rate in my experience (my daily phone since March 2022 replaced by S23U)
Google Pixel 6a - optical and really terrible until latest update (my daily work phone)
OnePlus 9 Pro - optical worked fine (partners phone)
S21-23 all have the same sensor 3D Gen 2.
I was hoping for the 3D Max on the S23.
The one on the s23 Ultra is terrible in comparison ot the one on my OnePlus 8T.
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The one on the s23 Ultra is terrible in comparison ot the one on my OnePlus 8T.
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this !
Terrible in comparison of my Oneplus, but not the same tech.
I registered 4 time my thumb to have more accurate reading, and even that , success rate is about 80% and it's not instant.
face recognition simply does not work, no matter how much I add picture.
Once again, Oneplus was instant, even under weird angle.
The fingerprint unlock in my S23U works better than my S22U and is much faster, people blames fingerprint and face detection when in most of the cases are user error, for fingerprint you need to consider two conditions of the finger: normal and dry and you should add the fingerprint for both conditions, for face detection you should add and alternative picture for improved detection and it works best in good light.
Both face detection in good light and fingerprint are working well, if its not, check what you are doing wrong otherwise you have a lemon.
I believe the S23U is the best phone Samsung made till now in all of the series and I made a correct choice upgrading from my older stutter phone S22U (Snapdragon).
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The fingerprint unlock in my S23U works better than my S22U and is much faster, people blames fingerprint and face detection when in most of the cases are user error, for fingerprint you need to consider two conditions of the finger: normal and dry and you should add the fingerprint for both conditions, for face detection you should add and alternative picture for improved detection and it works best in good light.
Both face detection in good light and fingerprint are working well, if its not, check what you are doing wrong otherwise you have a lemon.
I believe the S23U is the best phone Samsung made till now in all of the series and I made a correct choice upgrading from my older stutter phone S22U (Snapdragon).
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I guess it work for samsung users since they are use to.
Face recognition works, but 10% of the time with good lightning and orientation.
Even MKBH mentioned that OnePlus face recognition was not only stupidly effective, but also secure. Sometime the phone is on the table and get you face.
I have a twin brother and it don't work on him.
So yeah, when you touch Oneplus magic, we are hard on a more expensive phone that are weaker on some aspect.
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The one on the s23 Ultra is terrible in comparison ot the one on my OnePlus 8T.
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The one on the 8T is optical. The one Samsung uses is ultrasonic. Different tech and different results. For OnePlus devices the screen must be lit for the sensor to work. No so on Samsung.
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I guess it work for samsung users since they are use to.
Face recognition works, but 10% of the time with good lightning and orientation.
Even MKBH mentioned that OnePlus face recognition was not only stupidly effective, but also secure. Sometime the phone is on the table and get you face.
I have a twin brother and it don't work on him.
So yeah, when you touch Oneplus magic, we are hard on a more expensive phone that are weaker on some aspect.
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I don't know who MKBH is and if it's a Youtuber is just a paid budy, that's it. If you get that number of 10% you have a lemon and you should send it to repair. My only experience with Oneplus are their Oneplus Buds Pro, bad quality, enough for not buying nothing from than brand anymore. I'm not pro Samsung because I don't have stock in that company, I use the phone for working and this version is working fine, this didn't happen to me with the other older Galaxy versions where I ever found an issue.
I wish it was like this.
Vivo X90 Pro Plus at 15min and 10 seconds
I already preorder s23u and its comming tomorrow but right now it's the only phone i would consider as alternative.