Hello,
I have two Redmi Note 4X phones in the family (in the global version, both updated to MIUI 10).
I replaced batteries in both.
I tried batteries from two different sources, in both cases original (according to labels and assurances of sellers), two batteries from March 2019, from a second source from April 2019.
Both phones have the same problem, regardless of which new battery is used:
- charging up to e.g. 85 percent and stop, after several disconnections and connecting for charging, in a dozen or so seconds - charging to 100 percent and the green lamp goes out (which after reaching 90 is lit green, at 100 percent goes out, which is correct)
(right now the phone is connected for 3 hours and is stuck on 96 percent)
- discharging from 100 to 80 percent fast, without gsm and wi-fi networks in 2 hours, from 80 to 40 percent a few days, from 40-30 percent to zero again in a few hours (similar behavior with gsm and wifi, but faster)
- when trying to solidly discharge the battery, stop charging at 4-5 percent (such advice, complete discharge found in the network)
- factory reset (wipe) has changed nothing on one phone or the other on any of the new batteries
Old batteries on both phones show correct battery status, charge and discharge normally.
I assumed that since somewhere in the system sits some record learned from an old battery, then a factory reset will delete it, but no. It did not.
Can rooted phone do more about this topic? I don't want to root if there is only a vague chance of resolving the problem.
I will be grateful for your help, best regards.
Ps. Since I used 2 different Redmi Notes and 4 new batteries (different sources) I think I may assume, that the problem is common.
dumala.aleksander said:
Hello,
I have two Redmi Note 4X phones in the family (in the global version, both updated to MIUI 10).
I replaced batteries in both.
I tried batteries from two different sources, in both cases original (according to labels and assurances of sellers), two batteries from March 2019, from a second source from April 2019.
Both phones have the same problem, regardless of which new battery is used:
- charging up to e.g. 85 percent and stop, after several disconnections and connecting for charging, in a dozen or so seconds - charging to 100 percent and the green lamp goes out (which after reaching 90 is lit green, at 100 percent goes out, which is correct)
(right now the phone is connected for 3 hours and is stuck on 96 percent)
- discharging from 100 to 80 percent fast, without gsm and wi-fi networks in 2 hours, from 80 to 40 percent a few days, from 40-30 percent to zero again in a few hours (similar behavior with gsm and wifi, but faster)
- when trying to solidly discharge the battery, stop charging at 4-5 percent (such advice, complete discharge found in the network)
- factory reset (wipe) has changed nothing on one phone or the other on any of the new batteries
Old batteries on both phones show correct battery status, charge and discharge normally.
I assumed that since somewhere in the system sits some record learned from an old battery, then a factory reset will delete it, but no. It did not.
Can rooted phone do more about this topic? I don't want to root if there is only a vague chance of resolving the problem.
I will be grateful for your help, best regards.
Ps. Since I used 2 different Redmi Notes and 4 new batteries (different sources) I think I may assume, that the problem is common.
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The problem is the batteries are of low quality.There are no originals batteries on the market as far as i know, maybe in past but right now i highly doubt that.They sell them as originals but most of them, if not all of them are third party batteries from other companies.I had a similar experience with my old mi2s.Where did you get them if i may ask?
T3sla said:
The problem is the batteries are of low quality.There are no originals batteries on the market as far as i know, maybe in past but right now i highly doubt that.They sell them as originals but most of them, if not all of them are third party batteries from other companies.I had a similar experience with my old mi2s.Where did you get them if i may ask?
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I got them on allegro,which is a kind of polish ebay.
Branded with xiaomi marks,identical with the original I have. Do not seem to be fake,any of them.
dumala.aleksander said:
I got them on allegro,which is a kind of polish ebay.
Branded with xiaomi marks,identical with the original I have. Do not seem to be fake,any of them.
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They dont seem to, but i bet they are.Your best bet is to buy from xiaomi's amazon store but they are kinda expensive.
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They dont seem to, but i bet they are.Your best bet is to buy from xiaomi's amazon store but they are kinda expensive.
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All I see on amazon are batteries in the same price I payed in Poland-around $15.
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All I see on amazon are batteries in the same price I payed in Poland-around $15.
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Well there is also this one
https://greencell.global/en/xiaomi/2435-battery-bn43-for-xiaomi-redmi-note-4x.html
Seems pretty legit but haven't tried it.
As for the "original" batteries i'm pretty sure they are made by dragon-tt and witrigs
https://www.dragon-tt.com/xx.aspx?id=163
https://www.witrigs.com/accessories-for-xiaomi-redmi-note-4x
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Well there is also this one
https://greencell.global/en/xiaomi/2435-battery-bn43-for-xiaomi-redmi-note-4x.html
Seems pretty legit but haven't tried it.
As for the "original" batteries i'm pretty sure they are made by dragon-tt and witrigs
https://www.dragon-tt.com/xx.aspx?id=163
https://www.witrigs.com/accessories-for-xiaomi-redmi-note-4x
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So it says the batteries are original,disassembled from mobile phones. Do I understand that right? If so, I do not get it why they work like this.
Greencells are also available here,same price. I am wondering if I should try one of these. Maybe another waste of money...
dumala.aleksander said:
So it says the batteries are original,disassembled from mobile phones. Do I understand that right? If so, I do not get it why they work like this.
Greencells are also available here,same price. I am wondering if I should try one of these. Maybe another waste of money...
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In other words refurbished... So it's kinda of a lottery what you'll get and most probably you'll end with a problematic one which behaves like the ones you got.
About greencell i don't know, maybe it's a good company, but for me not worth the risk.I don't intend to keep the phone more than one year so i'll better save the money for a better new one.
T3sla said:
In other words refurbished... So it's kinda of a lottery what you'll get and most probably you'll end with a problematic one which behaves like the ones you got.
About greencell i don't know, maybe it's a good company, but for me not worth the risk.I don't intend to keep the phone more than one year so i'll better save the money for a better new one.
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Thank you for your interest,research and information.
I guess the refurbished were the problematic ones,which may have been replaced in authorized services as ones not working correctly,now they get to be selled again... Good for someone with bricked battery.Mine is ok,just 2 years old already,so I do not need a new one desperately.
And I guess it would be kind of not being beneficial for a manufacturer like Xiaomi to sell new baterries rather than new phones,as in my Redmi Note 4 replacing the battery isn't that hard,even though it made me use some tools and patience.
Best regards!
dumala.aleksander said:
Thank you for your interest,research and information.
I guess the refurbished were the problematic ones,which may have been replaced in authorized services as ones not working correctly,now they get to be selled again... Good for someone with bricked battery.Mine is ok,just 2 years old already,so I do not need a new one desperately.
And I guess it would be kind of not being beneficial for a manufacturer like Xiaomi to sell new baterries rather than new phones,as in my Redmi Note 4 replacing the battery isn't that hard,even though it made me use some tools and patience.
Best regards!
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No problem man, had made most of the research already for myself some time ago.I guess none of the manufacturers are willing to sell new batteries nowadays, it's something we have to accept...
Related
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006J90GBY/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
I just recieved this in the mail today and am charging them as I write this. Seemed like a fair price for what I hope are quality batteries. If they last a year I'll feel like I got my money's worth.
I'll post updates on their longevity compared to the stock battery once I go through a cycle or two.
CradleRob said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006J90GBY/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
I just recieved this in the mail today and am charging them as I write this. Seemed like a fair price for what I hope are quality batteries. If they last a year I'll feel like I got my money's worth.
I'll post updates on their longevity compared to the stock battery once I go through a cycle or two.
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I got this as well and it's on its way. I hope to simply rotate them well enough that I get good longevity between the three (the two from this purchase and the OEM one).
i also got them they seem to work just fine
I trust that these batteries will work just as well as the OEM one...in terms of both battery life and overall longevity. Based mostly on the fact it's a US based company.
Unlike those HK ones...that sell for cheaper...but they're lucky to even hold a normal charge for like 3 months. Basically, we get what we pay for...more often than not.
I just ordered this off of Amazon. I figured for the low price it was worth the risk.
I've had them since Note Day #1 (2/17) and they are def worth the money. I just can't say how long they hold a charge, since I haven't kept track yet. My guess is that they don't last quite as long as an oem batt. But they don't seem horrendous and 2 batts and a charger to your door for about $30 is hard to not be happy with.
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I had an issue with mine today...
Left a battery on the charger overnight and got up and the light showing it was still charging the next morning....Tried another battery and over 4 hours later, the same thing happened...Put another battery in there, and within an hour (battery wasn't empty), it turned blue letting me know charge was complete (and phone showed 100%).
Got another one in there now and it's been there for about 2 hours, and the light shows it's still charging.
Is there a charger out there that has a display so you can tell what's going on??
gtnote said:
you cant buy cheap quality batteries and expect the performance of quality batteries it just wont happen, thats why you need 3 instead of 1
http://www.kevikev.com/Yoobao-2500m...-Note-High-Capacity-Battery-YB2000MAHNOTE.htm
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I think the charger is the issue...not the batteries...
Take a look at this calculator:
http://www.csgnetwork.com/batterychgcalc.html
The charger this comes with outputs DC4.2V~350mA~±50mA. Using the link to the calculator above, you should expect a 2600mAh battery to fully charge with this charger in about 9 HOURS!!
I'll post updates as I find out more.
gtnote said:
i use this one but havent tried it with the note battery since i had the iPhone but let me find it and see if the battery fits and how it charges. i know its adjustable and charges most cell batteries but the note battery is kind of big
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That charger charges at 550MA(MAX). That should take 5.37 hours at best. Still a far cry from the 1000mA that the stock charger uses.
gtnote said:
found it, does fit but ill need to dran a battery to find out how long it takes to full charge a 2500mah battery. bothh my batteries are full so ill let you know tomorrow
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Thanks!!!
Sorry..Duplicate!!!
gtnote said:
consider the fact that you should not drain a bettery beyond 25% or you will shorten the life of it because the work to hard and overheat beyond that so your talking about 75% of 5.37 hours = 4.0275 hours and i dont think thats a big issue unless your battery doesnt make it 4 hours and trickle charge is better on a battery??
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I was under the impression (maybe mistakenly!!) that for the first few charge cycles of a battery, you wanted to fully discharge and charge it...then after that...you can you can go back to the 75% rule.
At least that's the way it is with Lithium Poly Batteries.
Am I wrong?
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I guess this thread is dead?
It would be nice to get an update from those who bought these batteries 8, 10 or 12 months ago... to see how they held up.
I've been researching Hyperion and I've found quite mixed reviews... Several places I found photos (obviously can't be truly verified) of Hyperion batteries with the labels peeled back to reveal the metal shells which appeared to be stamped/marked (presumably by the ORIGINAL manufacturer) with different product ID codes, serial #s, as well as significantly lower mAh ratings than Hyperion's outer sticker.
I'm curious if any of those who started this thread still have their batteries... How have they held up? Are they still good?
Does anyone still have one of these batteries that they're no longer using? Would you be willing to try stripping back the label to check to see what you find under it...
I do believe that there probably are some companies that actually do make good, less expensive alternatives. But the scammers need to be exposed...
Many of the threads discussing battery replacements in this section are dispersed and old.
However,
I'm asking for help with updated opinions/recommendations/insights please.
I have a Note 3 (5.0) N9005 - original Samsung battery, and it needs replacement.
Problem: As I have a spigen neo hybrid case, I want a battery that fits into the original note 3 cover.
I am looking for safe bets - companies whose batteries are not risky nor untested by members.
Obviously there is the option of another stock Samsung original - but are there established/safe alternatives that will give me better 'juice' than stock, but still fit in the original cover?
My thanks to any that are willing to share their advice/opinions & contribute.
Capt. M
I just recently bought a anker for my note 3 they are trusted and a very respected company. Look for a anker on amazon for your note 3. Yes it will fit same exact size. I use to have neo hybrid. They give you a warranty as well.
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matsuyamakaze said:
I just recently bought a anker for my note 3 they are trusted and a very respected company. Look for a anker on amazon for your note 3. Yes it will fit same exact size. I use to have neo hybrid. They give you a warranty as well.
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Why did you choose the anker over stock?
On the anker website - there also have customer reviews of each product. Some of the note 3 battery reviews are quite poor?
I chose anker because my brother bought one for his note 4 I already knew of anker and needed a battery, he said it was great. Reviews are hit and miss take them with a grain of salt, I've bought a power add Apollo charger and love it works flawless yet on amazon where I bought it many reviews are negative. Also companies can and do hire people for good and bad reviews. The original battery is hard to find unless you directly contact Samsung they can be rather annoying with customer service with my run ins I've had with them over chargers. Most if not all Samsung OEM for note 3 on amazon are knock offs there fake. If I'm unhappy with the battery I can still return it, they gave me and everyone a warranty, they have good packaging and they only use grade A cells, from what I've experienced and my brother I believe they are great. I hope this helps if you need more info message me anytime.
Hi,
take one of these,they are great,greater then the ones from samsung!
http://www.jubatec.net/akkus/handyakkus/
Anker for me long time user.
I'm interested in finding a solution that genuinely gives me an advantage over a samsung oem battery.
Is it true that no oem batteries were produced after 2014?
The manufacture date is printed on the battery. One of the things pushingme away from oem is that they will be 2-3 years old, and kept in storage for a long time.
JJEgan said:
Anker for me long time user.
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Why did you choose the anker over others?
Has it given you any issues?
Long time user on other models.
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Got 5 hour SOT and 1 day standby with stock 4.4.2 (greenify + donation package to hibernate system) will post pic soon
What battery are you referring too?
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Thanks mod. Was worried that viewers would loose interest in my thread!
I havr a question for those with a sammy oem battery. The date of manufacture is printed on the battery. Does anybody have one dated later than 2014???
matsuyamakaze said:
I chose anker because my brother bought one for his note 4 I already knew of anker and needed a battery, he said it was great. Reviews are hit and miss take them with a grain of salt, I've bought a power add Apollo charger and love it works flawless yet on amazon where I bought it many reviews are negative. Also companies can and do hire people for good and bad reviews. The original battery is hard to find unless you directly contact Samsung they can be rather annoying with customer service with my run ins I've had with them over chargers. Most if not all Samsung OEM for note 3 on amazon are knock offs there fake. If I'm unhappy with the battery I can still return it, they gave me and everyone a warranty, they have good packaging and they only use grade A cells, from what I've experienced and my brother I believe they are great. I hope this helps if you need more info message me anytime.
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Thank you for the info, I always thought that any non-samsung battery may run the risk of setting fire to your phone. I'll have to give that one a try
manne48 said:
Hi,
take one of these,they are great,greater then the ones from samsung!
http://www.jubatec.net/akkus/handyakkus/
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Do these fit in the original case? Any overheating issues?
Capt Morpheous said:
Many of the threads discussing battery replacements in this section are dispersed and old.
However,
I'm asking for help with updated opinions/recommendations/insights please.
I have a Note 3 (5.0) N9005 - original Samsung battery, and it needs replacement.
Problem: As I have a spigen neo hybrid case, I want a battery that fits into the original note 3 cover.
I am looking for safe bets - companies whose batteries are not risky nor untested by members.
Obviously there is the option of another stock Samsung original - but are there established/safe alternatives that will give me better 'juice' than stock, but still fit in the original cover?
My thanks to any that are willing to share their advice/opinions & contribute.
Capt. M
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Now, I see that you want a battery that fits the original cover, but many folks here can recommend the ZeroLemon 10 000 mAh battery. I'm using one.
Advantages:
+ comes with a dual layer TPU case with hard plastic shell;
+ you can get 2 to 3 days of extremely heavy usage, 5, if you are moderate, and a whole week with light usage (once did 6 days with 38% battery left, got tired of trying to drain it all the way and charged it, screenshots attached).
Disadvantages:
- the thing becomes really ugly, thick and heavy, you better have big pockets and strong belts. Yes, that's the only disadvantage. Well, if you change SD or SIM cards frequently, that would be a disadvantage too.
After the first calibration charges and discharges of the battery, it takes some 6 hours to charge from 0 to 100%, but 6 hours of charging for 3 days of extreme usage - that's more than a fair deal for me.
I'm in two minds. Oem vs third party.
Problem with oems are, it seems that the last production run was 2014???
Is it really the case that I'd have to purchase a two year old battery that has been in storage for that time?
First of all I checked my original battery and there is no manufacturing date that I can see, the closest I can come to date is serial number, but no idea how to decode it. Did they put manufacturing date later on?
2. if you want/need original size don't expect big capacity improvements: same size will have similar capacity give or take tolerances and chemistry need to be similar due to charging/ voltage.
3. Especially in the phone which is charged almost daily, number of cycles is more important than age. I have Li ion batteries probably almost 10 yrs old that still work, more or less.
4. There was suspicion that some OEM batt sold around were used and therefore already partially worn out.
5. If you use NFC, make sure the new battery has NFC antenna, some don't and NFC won't work there.
I bought battery called Stalion for about $10, it has NFC antenna, it holds charge as well as new OEM and if it wears out faster than OEM ( so far all's good, 6 months and counting) I'll buy new one for $10, not worth worrying about.
But if Note 6 will be as good as the rumors suggest this is all non issue in 3 months anyway.
pete4k said:
First of all I checked my original battery and there is no manufacturing date that I can see, the closest I can come to date is serial number, but no idea how to decode it. Did they put manufacturing date later on?
2. if you want/need original size don't expect big capacity improvements: same size will have similar capacity give or take tolerances and chemistry need to be similar due to charging/ voltage.
3. Especially in the phone which is charged almost daily, number of cycles is more important than age. I have Li ion batteries probably almost 10 yrs old that still work, more or less.
4. There was suspicion that some OEM batt sold around were used and therefore already partially worn out.
5. If you use NFC, make sure the new battery has NFC antenna, some don't and NFC won't work there.
I bought battery called Stalion for about $10, it has NFC antenna, it holds charge as well as new OEM and if it wears out faster than OEM ( so far all's good, 6 months and counting) I'll buy new one for $10, not worth worrying about.
But if Note 6 will be as good as the rumors suggest this is all non issue in 3 months anyway.
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Can you give me some more info on no. 4. his is new to me.
When I was looking for OEM batteries on Amazon (some stuff is sold by Amazon partners, not Amazon directly BTW ) some people left comments that batt. they got lasted less than old one they just replaced, some commented that they see scratches, like they were used, some said they didn't get original packaging, another commented that advertising never said those were brand new etc. etc. while others had no problem . Actually if what you said is true about OEM ending production in 2014, all those negative comments begin to make sense. At the end all those negative comments turned me off, to the point I bought off brand (Stalion) and I'm pretty happy with it.
for example here http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-Standard-Battery/dp/B00F3583S8 22% gave 1 star, that's one in five.
I like Anker but little luck with this phone for some reason . One works and other doesn't. The Anker do have NFC. Problem with OEM is that most are fake. Have several of those and 2/3 didn't last a month.
When I got my G5 (Verizon VS987) I also got a spare battery and charging dock as a promotional extra.
The charging dock is connected to the USB port on my PC. When I swap batteries I put the discharged one in the charging dock and remove it when the lights indicate it's fully charged. If I don't swap batteries for a few days I'll stick it back into the charging dock for the few minutes it takes to bring it back to full charge.
Now I notice one battery is swollen, as if from charging too fast or ???
It still fits into the phone with some difficulty but it does fit.
I'm wondering if I should discard it or keep using it, wondering if it can damage the phone?
Any thoughts?
Do not use the swollen battery any more. Do not toss it in regular trash either - find an authorized battery recycling operation in your area. If you can't locate one immediately, store the battery in a dry, cool spot with electrical tape over the contacts until you can dispose of it properly. Continued use may cause the battery to fail and catch fire and/or explode.
Batteries can swell due to overcharging, but also wear and tear aging with frequent full charge cycles. If you've been using the battery daily for about a year it is not uncommon for it to show such signs of wear. Failure rates are also more common with cheaper, off-brand batteries that aren't made as well to begin with. Buy a replacement battery and make sure it is OEM quality.
I've had this happen once before with a Motorola V3 battery so you see how long ago that was!
I believe it's the USB port allowing charging at a faster rate than the factory charger? Two requirements, the charge must be from a USB port and the battery must be very discharged.
The swollen battery is genuine LG, sent direct from LG, whatever quality that might be. Both the swollen Motorola batteries continued to work just fine in the V3, the LG battery works but is VERY difficult to remove and is now out of the phone forever.
xs11e said:
I've had this happen once before with a Motorola V3 battery so you see how long ago that was!
I believe it's the USB port allowing charging at a faster rate than the factory charger? Two requirements, the charge must be from a USB port and the battery must be very discharged.
The swollen battery is genuine LG, sent direct from LG, whatever quality that might be. Both the swollen Motorola batteries continued to work just fine in the V3, the LG battery works but is VERY difficult to remove and is now out of the phone forever.
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It's not a problem of faster charging, but overcharging. The longer and more often a battery is charged 100% and left there, the quicker it wears out. If the battery is about a year old with daily use like this, a bit of swelling isn't unexpected.
There is no immediate threat from swelling but it is the start of failure if allowed to continue use. You surely don't want it expanding inside the phone from heat until it gets stuck and/or cause GPS, volume or other contacts to mess up by expanding the frame, etc.
Batteries aren't too expensive so order another one.
Not sure I agree, evidence seems to point to heat as the culprit since the battery wasn't charged that often.
Anyway, OEM batteries are available on eBay for under $12 and one should arrive Monday.
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Not sure I agree, evidence seems to point to heat as the culprit since the battery wasn't charged that often.
Anyway, OEM batteries are available on eBay for under $12 and one should arrive Monday.
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I wonder if those are legit LG made.
Yup, why wouldn't it be? It's a unique battery for an obsolete phone, everyone that has any quantity is dumping them. The one I'm getting is from an "overstock" dealer.
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Yup, why wouldn't it be? It's a unique battery for an obsolete phone, everyone that has any quantity is dumping them. The one I'm getting is from an "overstock" dealer.
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Yeah I was just curious. Will buy few myself that's not a bad deal at all. Yeah I can't blame people, this will be my last LG phone. Great specs and price, but build quality trash.
Sad part I know 3 people with LG V20 who are also having build quality issues. Speaker going on all of them and this is a common issue.
Nick216ohio said:
Yeah I was just curious. Will buy few myself that's not a bad deal at all. Yeah I can't blame people, this will be my last LG phone. Great specs and price, but build quality trash.
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I guess I've been lucky, I've had very few problems. I really miss an unlocked bootloader and a rooted phone with a custom ROM but this seems to do the job other than about 90% of the "wonderful" features being stuff I don't want, don't use and would delete if the phone was rooted..
I really wanted the removable battery and the SD card, I think LG is my only option for both isn't it?
I have no idea what (or IF) my next phone will be, maybe I'll drag out my old Motorola V3 and use it? <G>
Seriously, no kidding, it's been all downhill since my BlackBerry Bold.
I bought two spares batteries, one from Ebay with the external charge case that looks genuine but the battery lasts about 20-25% less than the original battery and a second one from Aliexpress that lasts half the time of the original battery. The one from Ebay ways the same as the original, the one from Aliexpress is lighter.
On both the batteries the green heatshrink is not exactly the same color as the original one.
So I think none of those batteries you can buy from those sites will have the same capacity as a original battery from a official reseller.
The one I got seems to be OEM, I suspect the ones you got were just old, I can't imagine anyone making an aftermarket battery for such a low sales volume phone.
I believe any battery you get will be 3 - 4 years old before you get it, that may be why the one I got took almost 40 hours to reach full charge.
So far it seems it will last as long as the original but who knows?
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took almost 40 hours to reach full charge
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You have some abnormal batteries, cables, and/or chargers...
No, all working as they should.
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Yeah, I know, somewhat repetitive.
So I placed an order yesterday for a $900+ phone. I wanted it. The anticipated lack of supply elevated my desire. Frankly, I was stoked when I saw the Oct 17 ship date. I probably would have had it the same day, as I'm only 30 miles from the drop ship location.
But this morning, I looked at the order again. $914.79. $914.79. For a phone. And it doesn't even have Band 71 (I'm T-Mobile).
I recently found on eBay what was held out to be a true factory OEM battery. I had intended to keep my 6P as a backup after I got my shiny new Pixel XL 2. This morning, I looked up who Google uses to do their repairs. It was UBreakIFix. Went online, there were 3 stores withing 15 miles. Called them. $45 to replace the battery as long as I supplied the battery.
The tech was knowledgeable. As in he took one look at my battery, still in the anti-static, and could tell it was true factory OEM. Said he has replaced the battery on tons of 6Ps in the last three months. He said that they normally use factory OEM for 6P replacement, and the batteries aren't hard to get. I did not ask what they would charge for the battery (I paid less than $20 I think, eBay).
So I left it there. Used my Nexus 5 as a temp phone.....and dammit if the battery wasn't WAY better than the 6P.....but oh such a small screen.
The phone was done in about 30 minutes. I picked it up. My phone is good as new. I could immediately notice the difference.
I just cancelled my $914.79 phone. I'll wait for the XL 3 unless the phone dies before then. I have my Nexus 5 as a backup.
So, if you're like me, sitting on the fence on the XL 2, debating whether to replace the battery or get a new phone.....replace the battery.
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Yeah, I know, somewhat repetitive.
So I placed an order yesterday for a $900+ phone. I wanted it. The anticipated lack of supply elevated my desire. Frankly, I was stoked when I saw the Oct 17 ship date. I probably would have had it the same day, as I'm only 30 miles from the drop ship location.
But this morning, I looked at the order again. $914.79. $914.79. For a phone. And it doesn't even have Band 71 (I'm T-Mobile).
I recently found on eBay what was held out to be a true factory OEM battery. I had intended to keep my 6P as a backup after I got my shiny new Pixel XL 2. This morning, I looked up who Google uses to do their repairs. It was UBreakIFix. Went online, there were 3 stores withing 15 miles. Called them. $45 to replace the battery as long as I supplied the battery.
The tech was knowledgeable. As in he took one look at my battery, still in the anti-static, and could tell it was true factory OEM. Said he has replaced the battery on tons of 6Ps in the last three months. He said that they normally use factory OEM for 6P replacement, and the batteries aren't hard to get. I did not ask what they would charge for the battery (I paid less than $20 I think, eBay).
So I left it there. Used my Nexus 5 as a temp phone.....and dammit if the battery wasn't WAY better than the 6P.....but oh such a small screen.
The phone was done in about 30 minutes. I picked it up. My phone is good as new. I could immediately notice the difference.
I just cancelled my $914.79 phone. I'll wait for the XL 3 unless the phone dies before then. I have my Nexus 5 as a backup.
So, if you're like me, sitting on the fence on the XL 2, debating whether to replace the battery or get a new phone.....replace the battery.
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Would you mind sharing the link to the battery? Thanks. And good points, making me think twice about my order...
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Would you mind sharing the link to the battery?
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I got it from a seller called "battery_expert". Mostly because he sounded like he was a battery expert. $17.30.
I just checked and there are no more left.
Honestly, UBreakIFix was way more on the ball than I had ever anticipated. Your mileage may vary.
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I got it from a seller called "battery_expert". Mostly because he sounded like he was a battery expert. $17.30.
I just checked and there are no more left.
Honestly, UBreakIFix was way more on the ball than I had ever anticipated. Your mileage may vary.
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You know what, i just cancelled my order too. Seriously, $900+ for a phone. I realized how good the 6P has been even after two years. There is nothing new that i can do on a pixel 2 that i can't do on my 6P. Going to replace the battery and ride it out until the phone dies at some point. Thanks for the sanity check lol
Yeah a few months ago I contacted Google and they said they'd send a replacement 6p. After a month of nothing, I talked to them and they said it was on backorder so they'd just refund me my money. I thought "cool, I'll use my M8 and spend the money on a pixel XL 2". Then a day later my refurbished 6P showed up.
Battery life is pretty damn good again, especially on Oreo.
As much as I like the way the XL 2 looks, it's not that amazing to me to justify almost $1000.
I'm perfectly fine using this thing for another year.
Which ebay battery did you buy?
I may wind up doing the same thing. I got a quite from UBreakIFix with a new battery from them for $89.99 which I couldn't quite stomach.
Unfortunately right now its a shot in the dark with eBay batteries are there are no known good sources still available.
I may be tempted to try this one as a $45 ish repair is a lot better then $90.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/192239649598
Was thinking of getting Pixel XL 2 as well , but since my 6P performs flawlessly, I'll stick to it for the time being.
I love the xl2 myself but the 6p has always been my favorite device for a reason. The phone is still today one of the best phones you can buy so I'm with you guys. No way I'm spending that much on a phone.
Dconn1975 said:
I love the xl2 myself but the 6p has always been my favorite device for a reason. The phone is still today one of the best phones you can buy so I'm with you guys. No way I'm spending that much on a phone.
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It's really not lol and that's coming from a big fan of the phone.
When do they usually have sales on new devices? I may wait until they have a price drop or sale on the XL. My guess is after the new year we may see price cutting.
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JeffBea said:
When do they usually have sales on new devices? I may wait until they have a price drop or sale on the XL. My guess is after the new year we may see price cutting.
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Doubt Google would actually lower the price until after the XL 3 is on sale. What they would do is throw in more and more valuable add-ons, like a full size Home, or, depending on sales of both, even a Home Max after a few months. Free VR Googles, anyone? And any combination thereof.
Third party vendors will likely have them for a cheaper price after a couple of months.
My 6P is still under warranty. I sent it in for dying at 15% and it went to a Huawei authorized service. Came back after a week, the report says they changed the battery, the pfc board (it's the board the charger plugs into) and main camera (which i had no issue with). It's been two weeks with it and the battery is just as bad as before - still dies at 15%, AccuBattery says 2233 mah capacity and I get about 2h screen time. I'm not sure what to do now.. Is it possible that a new original battery would be this bad? Should i just give up on it or send it in again under warranty? I was really hoping on riding it out another year at least..
I'm pretty sure that they didn't changed your battery...
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It's really not lol and that's coming from a big fan of the phone.
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What, the 6p you don't think is a worthy device even today? I do. I think it's a great device for what you pay for it compared to 900 dollar phones that it can easily keep up with.
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What, the 6p you don't think is a worthy device even today? I do. I think it's a great device for what you pay for it compared to 900 dollar phones that it can easily keep up with.
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It's not cause it's hit or miss. So many problems plague this phone and it comes with one of the most half assed processors ever. The op3 is a much better buy
I went to a local shop in Toronto, near Kennedy and Highway 7, and paid $50 cash (no tax) for the battery, and I had them replace the rear glass as well due to a scratch on it for an additional $20 cash (also no tax).
Finished in about 30 minutes, has a 30 day warranty and was done on Oct. 3rd. After 3 drain/charge cycles (apparently required for warranty to be valid... how they'd know I did it or not is not known.. did it anyway) my battery life has doubled.
Before fix, I'd get the early shut down at 50ish percent, but now I get a full battery charge to 0.
I'm pretty sure I have some knock off as the temp sensor remains a constant 30 degrees Celsius, even after I put it in the fridge for 3 minutes to test it out, but I'm not too worried. I don't use rapid chargers, so it's only ever charging with 2.4A.
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My 6P is still under warranty. I sent it in for dying at 15% and it went to a Huawei authorized service. Came back after a week, the report says they changed the battery, the pfc board (it's the board the charger plugs into) and main camera (which i had no issue with). It's been two weeks with it and the battery is just as bad as before - still dies at 15%, AccuBattery says 2233 mah capacity and I get about 2h screen time. I'm not sure what to do now.. Is it possible that a new original battery would be this bad? Should i just give up on it or send it in again under warranty? I was really hoping on riding it out another year at least..
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Your current battery is bad at only 65%. Whether they changed it you will never know. Like many others here, I would order a battery from a known good source and pay a local repair shop to replace it. Then it should last a good long time.
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I went to a local shop in Toronto, near Kennedy and Highway 7, and paid $50 cash (no tax) for the battery, and I had them replace the rear glass as well due to a scratch on it for an additional $20 cash (also no tax).
Finished in about 30 minutes, has a 30 day warranty and was done on Oct. 3rd. After 3 drain/charge cycles (apparently required for warranty to be valid... how they'd know I did it or not is not known.. did it anyway) my battery life has doubled.
Before fix, I'd get the early shut down at 50ish percent, but now I get a full battery charge to 0.
I'm pretty sure I have some knock off as the temp sensor remains a constant 30 degrees Celsius, even after I put it in the fridge for 3 minutes to test it out, but I'm not too worried. I don't use rapid chargers, so it's only ever charging with 2.4A.
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Wow getting you to drain your battery is a terrible idea
Pig Vomit said:
Yeah, I know, somewhat repetitive.
So I placed an order yesterday for a $900+ phone. I wanted it. The anticipated lack of supply elevated my desire. Frankly, I was stoked when I saw the Oct 17 ship date. I probably would have had it the same day, as I'm only 30 miles from the drop ship location.
But this morning, I looked at the order again. $914.79. $914.79. For a phone. And it doesn't even have Band 71 (I'm T-Mobile).
I recently found on eBay what was held out to be a true factory OEM battery. I had intended to keep my 6P as a backup after I got my shiny new Pixel XL 2. This morning, I looked up who Google uses to do their repairs. It was UBreakIFix. Went online, there were 3 stores withing 15 miles. Called them. $45 to replace the battery as long as I supplied the battery.
The tech was knowledgeable. As in he took one look at my battery, still in the anti-static, and could tell it was true factory OEM. Said he has replaced the battery on tons of 6Ps in the last three months. He said that they normally use factory OEM for 6P replacement, and the batteries aren't hard to get. I did not ask what they would charge for the battery (I paid less than $20 I think, eBay).
So I left it there. Used my Nexus 5 as a temp phone.....and dammit if the battery wasn't WAY better than the 6P.....but oh such a small screen.
The phone was done in about 30 minutes. I picked it up. My phone is good as new. I could immediately notice the difference.
I just cancelled my $914.79 phone. I'll wait for the XL 3 unless the phone dies before then. I have my Nexus 5 as a backup.
So, if you're like me, sitting on the fence on the XL 2, debating whether to replace the battery or get a new phone.....replace the battery.
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Man congrats!! That's a good story indeed. I don't blame you for cancelling your order. I personally could not believe of all companies that Google would leave the headphone jack off the phone. Being a purist company I mean you gotta include the headphone jack. It's a nice phone but I can tell you from experience coming from the Samsung S8 which also had the 18.9 ratio that it was way too narrow. The proportion was way off to me so I sold my S8 and was able to locate a brand new Nexus 6p 64g that I ended up buying for only $150!! I got extremely lucky on my deal. I couldn't agree more with you as your 6p will easily last you another year if not longer and is every bit just as good as a phone as the pixel 2 and my Samsung S8.
So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
It's time to get a new battery.
Mine is pretty much okay with Oreo update back then. But after just 1++ year usage (bought it in Sept 2017), the battery life just dropped significantly.
Replaced it, and now it working fine. Even the repair center didn't factory reset my device (I'm on Omni ROM), so it couldn't be a software issue.
I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
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So my Moto Z 2016 fell into the Android 8.0 Oreo upgrade cluster**** and became a victim of the famous massive battery drainage, to the point it became impossible to use without keeping it plugged to a charger. Thing is one would logically assume this is a software issue, and therefore a rollback/downgrade would be enough to solve this problem. However, after dealing with multiple software upgrades and downgrades for 2-3 days straight with and without RSDLite in every imaginable way possible, I managed to install Android 6.0 Lollipop on the phone and everything works excellently, but the battery keeps having the same issues it had the second that phone got the lovely 8.0 update.
So my questions are: is it even remotely correct to assume the update caused physical damage to the battery? Or -even if I completely reinstalled a totally different Android version- there is still some part of the phone that contains an unmodifiable chunk of software that is corruptedly managing the battery information, therefore making buying a new battery irrelevant?
I'm asking this because I decided to believe in the first question as a yes and was about to proceed to buy a new battery AND a new glue to place the screen again back to where it is, but decided to make this thread to maybe avoid buying things that could've been unnecesary. Thanks in advance.
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I can confirm new battery will solve the problem. I had tried everything before I ordered an original battery pack (made by Lg and my phone has juice for more than a day now. (a half before)
I think fast/turbo charging also kill the battery, so now I use a 1,5/2A charger
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Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
tsoump said:
Could you please post a link about the battery pack kit that you said? Is there any different to a Motorola's one (capacity, dimensions etc) ? Thank you.
To our dear friend, I suggest you replace the battery. You are not alone to that issue. It's worth buying new battery. Check this thread : https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/how-to/defective-battery-lots-moto-zhigh-t3781335
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this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-M...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
the same GV30 was in the device (2680maH). There are a lot of non oem batteries btw
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Thank you for the quick response. I've noticed that there are many after-market batteries which have larger dimensions than the original. Do you think by just changing the battery to a new one, will solve the problem? I mean it was just effective batteries?
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I think the best to replace to the original GV30. It solved the battery problem of my phone right after changing it and I'm not alone with it I guess. I had tried everything before (calibration, doze apps, etc). Nothing works if the cells of the battery are dead. It's a hardware issue
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
Prove? I can prove in a year
Just think about it. It's simple physics, faster thermal expansion kills cells. That's why they're said not to let discharged fully. Or whatever
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Yeap! This is the conclusion, bad cells in the battery. I also believe the problem enhanced by the turbo charger, as you said... :/ But, how to prove it... (?)
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Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
moemos said:
Hi there,
did anyone tried https://www.aliexpress.com/item/LOS...-01-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-GV40/32842305696.html battery?
Thanks!
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Look, many customers have tried these extended batteries but noone can prove that this myth works! On the other hand, many videos and comments have uploaded on the internet and people have shared their experience: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hRdg75PAMw
I believe that it's impossible to extend a battery capacity while the space inside the phone is very specific.
A project, though, is in progress by a member of XDA who is trying to replace GV30 to GV40 battery: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z/help/replace-gv30-gv40-t3896369
You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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You'll want a battery that's SMALLER capacity than the oem. The issue is that lithium ion batteries hate being thinned out so trying to put the 2600maH OEM battery inside this chassis is a recipe for disaster. I believe the iFixit battery is around 2400maH.
I think we'd be fine with shorter life than stock. What many are missing is consistent battery life. It's one thing to get 2hours SOT, it's another to be at 80% and have it shutdown.
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It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
tsoump said:
It's appropriate to give us a link about these batteries.
I did change the motherboard and the battery to a new one gv30 and I get 3-4 SOT. What's your opinion about gv40 inside moto z?
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Don't do it. The screen will bulge out. There is essentially 0 give inside the Moto Z chassis. If you're fine seeing into the phone, then it'll work for you. However, I'd probably opt for the iFixit kit. It's an official Moto solution, and while it might have the same problem it won't introduce a worse problem.
May batteries you find online will say "OEM" but they are often rebrands. And even if they're just 0.1mm thicker, the screen won't adhere. A proper phone replace shop ordered me a replacement battery and it was too thick. This was a year ago, and I eventually just replaced it with a $300 new Moto Z from Amazon (I had broken my screen replacing the battery myself).
I don't know the links persay, but I see there's this one from SWARK https://www.amazon.com/Replacement-Compatible-XT1650-03-XT1650-05-XT1650-01/dp/B07GQWHLH1
I haven't tried that one myself, but I'd be curious to see the thickness.
Just replacing my moto z battery with cheap (fake?) gv30 that i buy for only around $7 in my local (Indonesia) marketplace
Please look the attached picture for its (peak) performance, and this how i got those number:
- charge to 91% with 5v/1.2A charger (ASUS charger)
- watching movie for 3 hours with airplane mode and bluetooth earphone on
- sleeping with airplane mode on
- using my phone normally with wifi on and data off until the battery reach 3%
Thank you all for your answers and sharing your experiences.
Unfortunately, after buying all I needed from the USA (battery pack and 2 B7000 glue blisters shipped to Argentina) I proceeded to attempt to fix the phone. While heating up the screen to remove it, I burned all of the LCD corners and completely ruined the screen. I don't know what did I do so differently from all of the technicians in videotutorials where thay apply the exact same or even more heat on the screen and still left it intact, but there's nothing that can be done about it except buying a new screen replacement, but since we didn't want to spend much money on this phone, we just discarded it. Such a shame and disgraceful event, it still bugs me out.