Newbie wanting to re-image a Touchpad - TouchPad General

Hi All,
Firstly, I am pretty much a 'newbie' here....so apologies if my questions are inane!
I have an original HP Touchpad - with HP webOS 3.0.5 (4GB RAM/ 16GB Storage) that has been sitting around since not long after getting it when I used to work for HP. I have been contemplating re-imaging it as an Android OS for a number of years, but scared off by my perceived complexity of the task.
But the time has come where I need to either try it - or toss it out. So, my question is........is there a process, that is reasonably easy to follow, for a non-Android guy to achieve this re-imaging of the device to whatever latest version of Android it will support?
Again, apologies if my question is too simplistic. If it's not reasonably intuitive for a layman to follow, let me know and I'll recycle the device. I AM however, always UP for a challenge, so happy to try whatever is required.
Thanks for taking the time to read my plea! And I would sincerely appreciate any responses to my quest.
Brian Wormald
Email: [email protected]

HP Touchpad from WebOS to Android
brain_163 said:
I have been contemplating re-imaging it as an Android OS for a number of years, but scared off by my perceived complexity of the task.
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The task is simple, easy and fast.
Basic process:
Novacom driver needs to be install on PC that allows communicating to the Tablet and load the required file:
Automatic_Wipe_All_and_Create_Android_with_Swap
Tablet needs to be place into WebOS recovery mode.
Once the Automatic_Wipe file is loaded into the Tablet it does everything.
When done the Tablet reboots into Recovery and any Android ROM can be flash ( install ).
That is all to it, the following are options and details but the process is the same for all.
How to activate WebOS recovery mode: Battery must be charge and be able to boot into WebOS.
1. Tablet must be off and disconnected from the USB cable.
2. Hold the Tablet with the Power Button facing at the Left Top from the user.
3. Press and hold at the same time, Power, Volume Key (Right) and the Home Button ( Right side by the USB connection).
4. A white USB Symbol will show, then connect the Tablet to PC
Novacom Drivers:
Download novacom driver for Windows: link provided by @smithylovestouchpad
Click HERE to Download Novacom Drivers for Windows
Follow this Guide by @DoubleStuff
Click HERE for How to install Android 9.0 through 4.4 on Touchpad.
If the user does not want to install the Novacom driver or using any Operating System not supported or having issues with the drivers then follow this Guide:
Click HERE for HP TOUCHPAD Novacom Repair Android
When all the Process is done, the moboot menu will show with the Recovery option.
Click HERE to Download all Android ROMs

1) How long does it take to root?
2) is it still a worthy tablet and responsive? Or am i better off getting a new samsung tablet for $100? (by definition of worthy and responsive - i am still ok using an old 2007 dual core laptop with an ssd since it can handle most mundane tasks/browsing etc. but without the SSD, its paperweight to me)

johnnyjuice99 said:
1) How long does it take to root?
2) is it still a worthy tablet and responsive? Or am i better off getting a new samsung tablet for $100? (by definition of worthy and responsive - i am still ok using an old 2007 dual core laptop with an ssd since it can handle most mundane tasks/browsing etc. but without the SSD, its paperweight to me)
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Rooting is just flashing a zip file within TWRP (the recovery which is the "central place" to flash everything outside the OS). For getting root you need to flash a zip like "SR5-SuperSU-v2.82-SR5-20171001224502.zip". That's normally all.
Don't expect too much out of it. The limiting factor is more the 1GB RAM, less the dual CPU core. But I would push you to give it a try. And of course, all depends on your usage of the TP. But following the different guides of HP_TOUCHPAD for getting the MAX out of the TP, one should be able to use it for several "daily things" like watching YouTube, checking eMails, as a SmartHome Monitor, Weather station and other things, which do not need the massive power and memory of actual devices.

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[UBUNTU][Testing] How-to install it on the Prime

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HOW-TO: Ubuntu on Asus Transformer Prime TF201
Port by lilstevie (thank you for your hard work)
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DISCLAIMER:
I wrote this how-to from my experience installing successfully Ubuntu on my Prime.
I am in no way responsible for what you do with your Prime, even when you are following my instructions.
There is always the risk of making it worse, hardbricking your device, and this risk is completely down to you !
This is not a final version. This port is currently very unstable !
Install Ubuntu on your TF201 for testing purposes only !
HOW-TO Unbrick your Prime (or not...):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514088
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VERSION:
v0.1: First version of the tutorial
ABOUT:
- Working:
Wifi – Same patch as for the TF101
Keyboard (if you have a dock)
USB Host (if you have a dock)
- Partially working:
Graphics Acceleration (only 2D at this point)
Touchscreen (it works but every few touches are off target by 1/2 the screen)
- Not working:
Bluetooth
Trackpad
Sound
Sensors (ALS, Gyroscope, Accelerometer, GPS, magnetometer)
Shutdown, Reboot, Suspend
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Links:
Bootimage http://173.244.200.139/ports/prime-sdlinux.blob
RootFS http://173.244.200.139/ports/ubuntu-prime.img.gz
Fastboot http://alpharev.nl/wintools.zip
MD5:
9625d336062b2ff7eb9530dd5e48fb9e prime-sdlinux.blob
1a59e7918c199a85f805cb62ca130dae ubuntu.img
81238957a42b207213442cba7eeff684 wintools.zip
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Hardware:
Asus Transformer Prime TF201 (bootloader unlocked & with data/charge cable)
A computer with Linux installed
MicroSD card of at least 4GB (a fast card is better)
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Pre-requisities:
1. You need to have an already unlocked Prime.
To unlock it, use the official Asus Bootloader Unlock Tool APK on Android.
2. You need to have the latest ClockWorkMod (CWM) Recovery installed to easily backup & restore your device.
To install it, you can use the Android tool 'ROM Manager' from Play Store if you system is already rooted.
Otherwise, you can use the 'Fastboot' tool along with this tutorial (BE CAREFUL!):
HOW-TO 1: http://www.theandroidsoul.com/install-cwm-5-8-2-0-on-transformer-prime/
HOW-TO 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576937
(You can also install the Touch version of CWM to avoid destroying your volume buttons while navigating )
CLASSIC : http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-5.8.2.0-tf201.img
TOUCH : http://download.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-touch-5.8.1.8-tf201.img
3. Before trying to do anything with your device, make a full nandroid backup of the current WORKING Android system.
To do that:
- Reboot on CWM (see the sticky, at the end)
- Navigate to 'backup and restore', then 'backup'
- Wait until the full backup is done...
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- INSTALL Ubuntu -
Introduction:
To have a working Ubuntu system on the Prime, you have to:
- Extract the root file system on your MicroSD card
- Flash the bootimage right on the device
While installing Ubuntu, the only thing you modify about Android, is the bootimage. You leave the system intact,
so you'll be able to do a pseudo-dualboot between Ubuntu, and Android (we'll see that later).
HOW-TO:
Extraction of the root filesystem:
- Connect your MicroSD card on the computer running linux (ex: /dev/sdc)
- Umount all current partitions from the card
- Using fdisk, fully erase it, rebuild partition table, and create one partition (ex: /dev/sdc1)
- Format it in 'ext4' (ex: $ mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc1)
- Using 'dd' command, extract the 'ubuntu.img' filesystem to the recently created partition
(ex: $ dd if=ubuntu.img of=/dev/sdc1)
- Wait until extraction completes... (It takes a while...)
- Mount the partition to verify that the extraction completes successfully (ex: $ mount /dev/sdc1 folder)
- Umount it, eject the card and put it on the Prime (ex: $ umount /dev/sdc1)
- Your Ubuntu filesystem is ready to use !
Flashing the bootimage (BE CAREFUL!):
- Reboot in fastboot mode (see the sticky, at the end)
- Connect the Prime to the computer, and be sure the drivers are correctly installed
You can find the drivers here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426502
- Extract the fastboot archive 'wintools.zip' and move the file 'prime-sdlinux.blob' in the same folder
- Execute the command: fastboot -i 0x0b05 flash boot prime-sdlinux.blob
(WARNING! This command will overwrite the bootimage of your Prime! Be sure you know what you're doing!)
- Wait until the flash completes... (it generally takes a few seconds...)
- When the blue progress bar is full, on the Prime, hold the Power switch to reboot the device
- Be sure that the MicroSD card is in the Prime
- Your Prime is now booting on Ubuntu, you should see some text displaying on the screen
- Wait until the system initializes... (It takes a while for the first boot...)
You should see kernel verbose booting, displaying something saying the system is resizing a partition
on the MicroSD card...
- Your Ubuntu system is installed ! You can do the graphical basic setup, then do a hard reboot of the device !
- Good luck with your freshly installed Ubuntu on your awsome Asus Transformer Prime !
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- RESTORE Android -
Introduction:
After installing Ubuntu, to have Android back on the Prime, you have to:
- (OPTIONAL: Do a full nandroid backup to be able to restore the Ubuntu bootimage directly from the CWM later)
- Simply restore the Android bootimage from the nandroid backup made before the installation of Ubuntu
HOW-TO:
To do that:
- Reboot on CWM (see the sticky, at the end)
- Go to 'backup and restore', then 'advanced restore'
- Choose the Android backup made before installing Ubuntu
- Choose 'Restore boot' option
- Wait until the restore is done...
- Choose 'reboot system now' to boot in Android
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- DUALBOOT Android/Ubuntu -
Introduction:
We can note that the both systems are installed on two different storage devices.
Android is directly on the device and Ubuntu is on the MicroSD.
The only thing that changes between the two systems is the bootimage.
If you have a nandroid backup of each WORKING systems, you can do an advanced restore of the boot 'boot.img'
of Ubuntu to boot it from the MicroSD card, or restore the boot of the Android backup to boot on Android !
HOW-TO:
To do that:
- Reboot on CWM (see the sticky, at the end)
- Go to 'backup and restore', then 'advanced restore'
- Choose the correct backup (the Android one, or the Ubuntu one)
- Choose 'Restore boot' option
- Wait until the restore is done...
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STICKY:
- Booting the Prime on recovery mode (CWM):
1. Power off the device (using Android, or by a long press of the power switch)
2. Power it on, by keeping simultaneously pressed the power switch and the volume down button
3. When text displays on top of the screen, release all, and press the volume up button
4. Wait a few seconds and CWM will appear on the Prime...
- Booting the prime in fastboot mode:
1. Power off the device (using Android, or by a long press of the power switch)
2. Power it on, by keeping simultaneously pressed the power switch and the volume down button
3. Wait until the message saying 'OS will coldboot in 10 seconds' etc... then release all buttons
4. Use the volume down button to select the USB icon
5. Validate with volume up
6. You can connect your device to a computer to send fastboot commands...
Testing request
If someone want to test it and confirm that this tutorial can be fully approved, it'll be great
This is really great news!!!...I wanted to run ubuntu on my prime and use it as fully fledged portable laptop...
all there already was had either ubuntu running through vnc server and that too outdated version or chroot ubuntu...(if i am not missing anything here)
I wish that we would be soon able to get ubuntu for android (UFA) from canonical preinstalled with the next update of tf201...I heard that we cannot possibly install it without asus agreeing to team up with canonical...
atm, this seems great...will test and report...!!!
Would be nice to have grub or a similar bootmanager to switch between the systems on startup
OP, so what is your connection with lilstevie? I notice the links for the downloads of the blob and image file go to http://lilstevie.geek.nz/ports/ and the files there are almost 6 weeks old. Your working/not working list is also the exact same as the original post from lilstevie at http://androidroot.mobi/2012/02/23/ubuntu-on-the-transformer-prime/
Just wondering are you actually developing any of this or just found the links and put up a howto?
Thanks
As I said at the beginning, this is the work of lilstevie. I searched how to install it, and once I've set it up on my Prime, I made that tutorial today.
I share it here if someone want to try installing Ubuntu on their Prime.
The files are the original ones hosted by lilstevie. And I did not found any version newer, so let's wait for a new release, or a final version.
And no I don't work with him for the development.
I was waiting for something like this! Thanks a lot for writing up a guide and trying it on tf201.
Now we need proper dual boot, shouldn't be too hard to figure out...
Just followed your howto and it's working fine on my tf201.
Now I'm updating via apt-get
Looking Forward to this
Will transform then Device into a laptop excellent.
Not sure why more people arn't getting involved.
ryanbell said:
Will transform then Device into a laptop excellent.
Not sure why more people arn't getting involved.
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Probably due the the high risk of completely bricking your prime until a safe dual boot or single boot solution is in place. Certainly that is what is holding me back.
The whole reason I bought the Prime was for this, but without nvflash I am going to hold back until some more intrepid soul does the boot work
do we need linux to format the sd card or can we do it in windows?
jellydroid13 said:
do we need linux to format the sd card or can we do it in windows?
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You need Linux, but don't let that stop you if you're a windows user - installing, say, Ubuntu is INCREDIBLY simple on windows, you can install it as a windows program, run live CDs, or (with just a liitle more effort) set up a dual-boot with windows and the Linux distros you like. I am NOT computer savvy, so trust me when I say it isn't hard
To anyone who has tried this, any comments on how well it runs? I'm not going to try this just yet, but I'm really curious. Does it run as well as Ubuntu on today's low-range laptops? I guess what I'm wondering is, does it seem like ordinary Ubuntu on ordinary x86 machine? Forget about the known issues, just browsing Unity or gnome, is it smooth and pleasant enough? Thanks for any info
Komodo Rogue said:
You need Linux, but don't let that stop you if you're a windows user - installing, say, Ubuntu is INCREDIBLY simple on windows, you can install it as a windows program, run live CDs, or (with just a liitle more effort) set up a dual-boot with windows and the Linux distros you like. I am NOT computer savvy, so trust me when I say it isn't hard
To anyone who has tried this, any comments on how well it runs? I'm not going to try this just yet, but I'm really curious. Does it run as well as Ubuntu on today's low-range laptops? I guess what I'm wondering is, does it seem like ordinary Ubuntu on ordinary x86 machine? Forget about the known issues, just browsing Unity or gnome, is it smooth and pleasant enough? Thanks for any info
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thanks but i dug through and found my live linux flash drive(im no noob ) i will be installing soon and tell you how it goes.
just tried it and it looks very promising. I could finally use remote desktop decently from my prime and control vms within the server, which was awesome.
can't wait for these corageous and smart people to get dual boot working among the other issues
also found out:
- no functioning battery indicator for both batteries (dock/tablet)
- couldn't install flash so for youtube (guess none is available for arm?)
i also just tried it out and cant wait for it to be fully functional (is anyone even still working on it?) anyways i would replace android with it.
jellydroid13 said:
i also just tried it out and cant wait for it to be fully functional (is anyone even still working on it?) anyways i would replace android with it.
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But then what is the point of having a tablet over a netbook or cheap laptop? Battery life? Touch screen?
dotnerdify said:
But then what is the point of having a tablet over a netbook or cheap laptop? Battery life? Touch screen?
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Both of those things, plus versatility (dock, no dock, Linux or Android), and of course the cool factor
I would want to keep android around (hence desire for dual boot) for the times I might want it (like to watch movies on a flight, etc) but I think for the most part if there was a good, fast native Linux that's where I would be.
My opinion is that there is no need for Linux Ubutnu on Primes, because I bought just because PRIME has Android OS and has features that no laptop! And more like Prime with Android OS because it is function of the sea than no have a laptop with Windows, Mac or Linux Ubuntu. Some of the features that I like on my To: Touchscreen, Bluetooth, trackpad, sensor (ALS, Gyroscope, Accelerometer, GPS, magnetometer), shutdown, reboot, no need for always shotdown and wait time for the system start, It is great for work and playing games, two cameras, GPS, BATTERY LIVES IS MUCH BETTER THAN IN LAPTOPS and lot more options.
Sure tabs have their use cases, but having a full blown Linux distro running as well extends that set of use cases by a phenomenal amount. I can certainly use a Linux distro on my tab for the full blown IDE Eclipse an other apps available like FTP, VNC etc.
Current users, can you say how the touch screen works? Still half of the screen?
qubz said:
Sure tabs have their use cases, but having a full blown Linux distro running as well extends that set to use cases by a phenomenal amount. I can certainly use a Linux distro on my tab for the full blown IDE Eclipse an other apps available like FTP, VNC etc.
Current users, can you say how the touch screen works? Still half of the screen?
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My touchscreen has been working fine so far also lilsteve said on his twitter that he has a most stuff working and that the release of Ubuntu 12.04 in 4 days is supposed to have native tegra 3 support so he is planning on a 12.04 release with most stuff working soon.
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Remix OS freeze on boot

hello
I install Remix OS on my pc
Config
moderbord Asus P6TSE
Ram 24 GB
GPU GTX 960
CPU Intel® Core i7-920
i use a ssd to boot this os and freeze on boot ...
Image
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Checking Data Partition....
ANDROID
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ty in advence
When you boot up press "e" to edit the boot info, place DEBUG=2 into the script after 'androidboot.hardware=remix_x86_64' so it looks like 'androidboot.hardware=remix_x86_64 DEBUG=2' hit F10 (softly)
Debug boot should begin.
Type exit when prompted, ignore any warnings that might come up concerning hardware not being picked up, type "exit" when prompted to do so to move on. After a few times typing "exit", does an error like this continue to roll up your screen: "init: Couldn't probe module 'net-pf-16-proto-5' "? :fingers-crossed:
i make a video
https://youtu.be/7tdO9nmLBmg
A quick question. Are there any other drives connected?
You could try actually install it onto your SSD from the boot up.. Your SSD would need 2 partitions though.. One is FAT32 (around 3GB large) and the other can be FAT32 or NTFS, it wont make a difference. If you want to know how to do the install from boot then just send a reply asking.
I have just tried with a different machine and I'm getting a full SELinux error. I doubt that there is anything that we would do.. (I'm not pro enough to go reading through the actual OS files... ) Not all PC's are supported unfortunately. Mine is not, I have had better luck running Remix OS in Virtual Box, well... before the latest release at least. Now I'm getting errors that seem to have been around since Android_x86 project began.
Another option would be to try the Legacy version if your motherboard is able to boot legacy. (Sorry, have not tried looking at your MoBo)
My advice (which I am also following) would be to be patient and just hold out for a while. Until the next update comes along for us to try.
More support is intended on being added with every release.
all my files is in a fat32 partitions and work on my laptop is just my pc ... wont works
Are there any other drives connected?
yes i have 4 drive with my pc
If it is working on your laptop then settle with that for now.
No, not other drives would be recommended, just saw them in the debug at the beginning.
The error that seems to be coming up for you and I (this is as far as I understand) has to do with kernel security settings as to what to allow on boot. The issue can arise when certain files have not been given the policy labels that they require to run. So they effectively get denied constantly. This is likely where a lot of the added hardware support will sort things out... I'm also running an NVidia Card.. could be the drivers needed..(although that would not explain why VM's don't work)
Sorry that I cannot help you mate.. This is going too deep into the realm that I know little about when it comes to the actual stuff. I follow instructions when having to make a change to my Linux distro.
I do envy you having the latest version working on a device. My laptop wont boot for me either.
You could try the Andriod_x86 forums and see what the common threads are. Seeing as Jide is using android_x86 as a base.
If anyone else knows more and is able to shed light on the matter, please do so? I am also up to correction on my statements.
I asked the same question on other forums and on google group
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/remix-os-for-pc
http://forums.mydigitallife.info/threads/67863-Remix-OS-freeze-on-boot
gaaara said:
hello
I install Remix OS on my pc
Config
moderbord Asus P6TSE
Ram 24 GB
GPU GTX 960
CPU Intel® Core i7-920
i use a ssd to boot this os and freeze on boot ...
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http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/339816IMG20160124171700.jpg
ty in advence
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Nvidia GPUs have trouble with remix os and you wont be able to run it properly.
ty
a new version of remixos is released
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/remix-os-for-pc/Tl9yTkALhN8
i test it and the os boot and loop on welcome menu ... loll i make video for skip the logo go to 1:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu6hF39CoJI
ty for your poste
I know its not an answer to your question, but have you tried the new 2 February version? I have got it working in VirtualBox atm.

Disable the mouse pointer & remove windows?

Hi all,
I have been given the task of turning 10x 'Fizzbook Spin' laptops into device a preschool could use.
I have windows 10 working but it is slow and have decided to look into the android route, this runs faster but also has many more apps for young children available. I installed Remix OS onto the laptop without issue (1.6Atom + 1Gb RAM) but have a couple of questions.
1. Can I install Remix OS without windows or any other operating system? I would like for them to turn the laptop on and it boots straight in to Remix.
2. As it is for pre-schoolers I would like to use this as a tablet type device, whereas tapping or swiping on the screen would act like an android tablet and not move the mouse cursor.
Is the above possible? If not does anyone have any recommendations for an android type operating system I could put on this device which would work in this manner?
Thank you very much for any advice
Darren
drunken_prozac said:
Hi all,
I have been given the task of turning 10x 'Fizzbook Spin' laptops into device a preschool could use.
I have windows 10 working but it is slow and have decided to look into the android route, this runs faster but also has many more apps for young children available. I installed Remix OS onto the laptop without issue (1.6Atom + 1Gb RAM) but have a couple of questions.
1. Can I install Remix OS without windows or any other operating system? I would like for them to turn the laptop on and it boots straight in to Remix.
2. As it is for pre-schoolers I would like to use this as a tablet type device, whereas tapping or swiping on the screen would act like an android tablet and not move the mouse cursor.
Is the above possible? If not does anyone have any recommendations for an android type operating system I could put on this device which would work in this manner?
Thank you very much for any advice
Darren
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About #1: Yes, you could.
Instead of installing with the official installer, flash Remix OS with it to a flash drive, and from Grub, press tab and replace what is written with "install=1 debug=" (important: "debug=" has nothing following it), and follow the instructions (I recommend creating and installing to an ext4 partition).
About #2: I have no idea, perhaps there is something in build.prop, I remember people talking about a line set to false, with "box" in it.
By the way, don't you want to try Phoenix OS?
It's supposed to be more stable.
And you could always try the original Android-x86.
moriel5 said:
About #1: Yes, you could.
Instead of installing with the official installer, flash Remix OS with it to a flash drive, and from Grub, press tab and replace what is written with "install=1 debug=" (important: "debug=" has nothing following it), and follow the instructions (I recommend creating and installing to an ext4 partition).
About #2: I have no idea, perhaps there is something in build.prop, I remember people talking about a line set to false, with "box" in it.
By the way, don't you want to try Phoenix OS?
It's supposed to be more stable.
And you could always try the original Android-x86.
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Thanks for the reply,
I'm kinda new to this so don't know much linux
Phonenix OS I've seen about but didn't know which was more stable, I will try it tonight.
I've been assigned as the 'dad who knows about computers' at my sons nursery so they offload all the technical stuff off to me and ask if I can "make it work"
Just need to make it simple and easy for a 3yr old to play colouring games and ABC learning games on
drunken_prozac said:
Thanks for the reply,
I'm kinda new to this so don't know much linux
Phonenix OS I've seen about but didn't know which was more stable, I will try it tonight.
I've been assigned as the 'dad who knows about computers' at my sons nursery so they offload all the technical stuff off to me and ask if I can "make it work"
Just need to make it simple and easy for a 3yr old to play colouring games and ABC learning games on
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Don't worry, I know exactly what it feels like, except in my case, it is "the older brother who is an expert in computers" at my sister's school, althoigh I'm no expert, but a computer passionist.
However, I do use Linux on my desktop, since it's much better than Windows in almost every way.
Unfortunately, there are many day-to-day apps on Windows that don't have an up to par Linux equivalent, unless you only use Latin-based languages, and possibly(?) slavic ones as well, no idea about far-east ones, though.
1. Can I install Remix OS without windows or any other operating system? I would like for them to turn the laptop on and it boots straight in to Remix.
Suggestion:
Use Windows to install Remix
Use EasyBCD to modify the boot default to Remix and set timeout to 2 seconds. It appears to boot directly to Remix
2. As it is for pre-schoolers I would like to use this as a tablet type device, whereas tapping or swiping on the screen would act like an android tablet and not move the mouse cursor.
Suggestion:
Use this method to disable the touchpad
http://forum.xda-developers.com/remix/remix-os/root-how-to-deactivate-device-remix-os-t3358963
Worked for me in same situation
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Touch enabled grub bootloader?

Just as the title says, I'm curious if there exists a touch (or hardkey, i.e. volume up/down and windoes key) enabled bootloader.
Currently i have to press arrow keys and enter to select either windows or android.
Is there such a thing? It would be amazing. Id rather not have to stop at the keyboard to boot to an os from grub.
Thanks in advance!
Well .. I had suffered from this problem for longtime and finally I solved by an app called android-x86 installer it's the only way to boot from your Windows tablet without keyboard at last what I ended up with .. so yo have to download an old version I recommend the ALPHA version and install it with android-x86 installer 2.4 UEFI version after finished installing you have to download the latest version of remix OS and extract with 7zip or winrar then replace all file with the same name in folder androidOS that the direction of ALFA you already installed now You can boot with two ways either from settings/update / recovery and then press restart now at advanced startup then after reboot choose "use a device " and last thing chose android OS wait 9 seconds in grub2 an finally the remixOS will boot or by simply choose android OS from boot menu by volume Up/down
Boot solution for XPS 12 9250
Will thank you for this post when my 'Thanks!' get replenished on XDA. I'm still only using windows 10 on this tablet PC.
It is not clear to me is this is dual boot Android/Windows, my understanding is that this particular usage of the Linux grub bootloader only boots to Remix OS which is android. Grub, as you know does have dual boot capabilities, but maybe not yet on the XPS 12 9250.
Sorry, but the instructions are not step-by-step details for me, and I seem to be not smart enough to follow them. Could you point me to a 1..., 2..., 3.... please?
Please update or PM me whenever you feel you have found a better boot solution for our 9250's. I will be most grateful.
namitutonka said:
Will thank you for this post when my 'Thanks!' get replenished on XDA. I'm still only using windows 10 on this tablet PC.
It is not clear to me is this is dual boot Android/Windows, my understanding is that this particular usage of the Linux grub bootloader only boots to Remix OS which is android. Grub, as you know does have dual boot capabilities, but maybe not yet on the XPS 12 9250.
Sorry, but the instructions are not step-by-step details for me, and I seem to be not smart enough to follow them. Could you point me to a 1..., 2..., 3.... please?
Please update or PM me whenever you feel you have found a better boot solution for our 9250's. I will be most grateful.
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Grub can chainload the entry just fine. And when using the official tool it auto-adds an entry if it detects Windows is installed, which it will be as it's a windows tool [unless running via wine] it'll add an entry for it.
Without the tool you can do it manually. Personally I have a second easy to access efi partition that I use, if you want to do the same download a partition manager like minitool and confirm that you have 16MB of unallocated space between your efi and C: drive and I'll dig up a post/walk you through the rest tomorrow
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Grub can chainload the entry just fine. And when using the official tool it auto-adds an entry if it detects Windows is installed, which it will be as it's a windows tool [unless running via wine] it'll add an entry for it.
Without the tool you can do it manually. Personally I have a second easy to access efi partition that I use, if you want to do the same download a partition manager like minitool and confirm that you have 16MB of unallocated space between your efi and C: drive and I'll dig up a post/walk you through the rest tomorrow
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Very excited to pursue this, but this week is filled with close family coming here to stay for our only holiday celebration. Will post back here when I get that unallocated space, after creating a backup of the current system. May use Gparted, but will check out minitool as well.
Walk through, dual boot Remix OS + Win10 on XPS 12 9250
@HypoTurtle
Waiting on a second USB-C to USB cable so I can boot a Macrium Reflect flash drive and backup a restorable PC image to an external Hard drive. After I'm sure I can restore this image I'll try to install Remix OS.
This youtube link is straightforward and simple to follow for the dual boot installation process. I've seen many reporting hardware/software issues on the many XDA forum threads branching off of "Remix OS for PC". So obviously one size does not fit all. Compiling and replacing different Linux kernels, editing grub.cfg, initrd.img, system.img, data.img.... The very worse thing on xda forums are ignorant end-user whiners like me who want instant gratification with their perfectly working phone or tablet. This vast forum has so many xda-developers, steeped in code, gaining and sharing trial and error knowledge. So many thousands of threads where xda-developers are taken for granted to lay solutions into end-user's laps. So many of us end-users are oblivious to this baby sitting. I will try the time consuming and painstaking learning curve. The least knowledgeable member on xda-forums should try to learn and not be spoon fed. It is essential, whatever our capacity, to all become developers interested in expanding the usefulness of our devices over and above the limited and constrained manufacturer's parameters.

HP TOUCHPAD Novacom Repair Android

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Live Linux System:
It can be run on any Computer as:
Burn into a CD, or USB Flash Drive, boot into any Computer
Run it as a Virtual Machine using any Virtualization Software
355 MB iso file
Click HERE to Download HP_Touchpad Novacom Repair Android
Novacom Drivers to load:
TPToolBox by jcsullin -- Reflash battery A6 Firmware ( Only)
Create Boot -- Repair boot
TWRP Recovery 3.2.1 by Flintman -- Flash any Android ROM
Wipe All Create Android with Swap Partition -- Make Tablet 100% Android with Swap
Make changes to Android
Android Debug Bridge ( ADB ) -- Control and make changes to Tablet using TWRP Recovery or Android
Media Transfer Protocol ( MTP ) -- Transfer files using TWRP or Android
Ramdisk -- Customized all settings for the Tablet
VNC Server -- Allows to control a connected HP Touchpad from anywhere.
VNC Viewer -- Connect to VNC Server to make changes to any connected HP Touchpad
Web Browser -- Download any ROM or flash file need it to update the HP Touchpad.
How to Videos:
User Interface
Load the ToolBox
Ramdisk from zip flash files
Ramdisk from /boot uImage
Screenshots:
How to Burn the ISO file onto a CD; USB Flash Drive or use it as a Virtual Machine
The Palm Novacom Driver is the essential to communicate with the HP Touchpad to repair it, if is not booting into the moboot menu.
The drivers are not been updated and must be install on old Operating System to work properly. As new PC Operating System are updated the Palm Novacom Driver may become unstable or not work at all.
The provided ISO file is a Puppy Linux 32 bit compatible with Ubuntu Bionic (Latest version)
Click HERE for the Original Version of BionicPup32
Click HERE for the Puppy Linux Main Web Page
Basic instructions:[/U][/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]
To burn the ISO file to a CD, use the Operating System software or the free ImgBurn.exe for Windows
Click HERE for ImgBurn for Windows
Use it in a Virtual Machine
Click HERE for Virtual Box
Click HERE for VM WARE Player
To create a boot-able Live USB drive using UNetbootin:
Click HERE to Download UNetbootin for Windows, Linux and MacOS
Good news HP_TOUCHPAD,
It seems like I am the first 'layman' to install HP_TOUCHPAD's Novacom repair tool.
I feel like the first man on the moon! Because it was quite an adventure.
First I had to mount an E: drive using Virtual Clone Drive software so I could place the HP_Touchpad_Novacom_Repair_Android.iso file on that drive. This step did not need to be done, but I am glad I did it because I was able to see all the indivual files that made up the .iso file. As you see in the below pic on drive E:
Then I installed and ran the VM player and loaded the .iso file, but it was complaining that the setting vt-X had to be enabled. So I actually had to go into my PC's BIOS to enable that setting. But as you see in the below pic everything is working now, I just plugged in my Touchpad to my PC, and ran the Toolbox option, and would you believe it, the toolbox came up on my Touchpad, and then I reset the batteries A6 firmware with it. I also tested the WipeAll icon and it also worked with success.
So this tool that HP_TOUCHPAD has created would make J.C. Sullins proud.
DoubleStuff said:
Good news HP_TOUCHPAD,
It seems like I am the first 'layman' to install HP_TOUCHPAD's Novacom repair tool.
I feel like the first man on the moon! Because it was quite an adventure.
So this tool that HP_TOUCHPAD has created would make J.C. Sullins proud.
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You did it the hard way and congratulations!
There is no need to mount the ISO file.
In the Virtual Machine Software, on your case VM Ware Player, just select the ISO file as the operating system to install, remember there is no installation is a Live CD. On the Virtual Machine settings it only needs 1GB of RAM to run or less. Just Run the Virtual Machine and as it shows, once you connect the Tablet to the host then it will ask if you want to connected to the guest machine. Using a Virtual Machine allows not to reboot your Main PC ( host ).
There is no worries about upgrading windows or any OS in fear that the Palm Novacom driver will stop working.
This should work in a Virtual Machine environment for EVER until we die, because the Tablet will keep working.
Burning a CD or a USB flash drive will allow to boot into any PC, anywhere you go. If anyone finds an HP Touchpad in a dumpster somewhere, using this ISO will provide everything need it to have all done from a complete data reset, to the ToolBox and installing any ROM !
HP could have done the same and use the WebOS Dr, on a Linux CD, providing the Palm Novacom drivers and all the details, it would have avoid a lot of confusion with the boot symbols, but to save half a penny it was not included in the box with the Tablet and now the Palm web site is down with no option for a regular user to get the Tablet working. The ToolBox is an Arm Linux architecture of 67MB that loads into memory.
I'll leave all this hocus pocus to your guys. I have two Windows 10 laptops with Novacom drivers installed and they work fine. I did have the one PC where the driver became corrupted, but a simple uninstall/ reinstall fixed it without issue. I personally don't subscribe to one must use a PC with an old operating system installed to get Novacom to work. BTW, what do you call an old operating system, XP? After 9 years of playing of with TouchPads, I have never had a problem installing or using Novacom. Any driver can become corrupted on any PC and a simple reinstall will fix it. I have never not been able to fix a driver issue on any PC that reinstalling the driver did not fix the issue. I am not saying that your method does not have a place in someone's software toolbox. But Novacom is so easy to install. Just right click on the Novacom Installer and click "Install" and in few seconds, it is installed. Put the TPTBv42, TWRP or WipeAll batch files in the Palm, Inc. folder and run them. That just seems so much easier than burning ISO's to CD' s or thumb drives or in VM's and watching all these tutorials to learn how to use your Novacom Repair method. I'm not a software junkie like you guys. I like straight forward and simple. And one click to install Novacom is SIMPLE!
Hats off to you HPTP for creating an interesting method. Just not my cup of tea.
Smithy
smithylovestouchpad said:
I'll leave all this hocus pocus to your guys. I have two Windows 10 laptops with Novacom drivers installed and they work fine. I did have the one PC where the driver became corrupted, but a simple uninstall/ reinstall fixed it without issue. I personally don't subscribe to one must use a PC with an old operating system installed to get Novacom to work. BTW, what do you call an old operating system, XP? After 9 years of playing of with TouchPads, I have never had a problem installing or using Novacom. Any driver can become corrupted on any PC and a simple reinstall will fix it. I have never not been able to fix a driver issue on any PC that reinstalling the driver did not fix the issue. I am not saying that your method does not have a place in someone's software toolbox. But Novacom is so easy to install. Just right click on the Novacom Installer and click "Install" and in few seconds, it is installed. Put the TPTBv42, TWRP or WipeAll batch files in the Palm, Inc. folder and run them. That just seems so much easier than burning ISO's to CD' s or thumb drives or in VM's and watching all these tutorials to learn how to use your Novacom Repair method. I'm not a software junkie like you guys. I like straight forward and simple. And one click to install Novacom is SIMPLE!
Hats off to you HPTP for creating an interesting method. Just not my cup of tea.
Smithy
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All valid points Smithy, I too have Novacom installed on my Windows 10 64bit laptop, but last time I checked more and more Novacom links to install the software were broken and they were getting harder to find, and I was hearing of others having issues trying to install it on newer PC's.
So the idea of having a Novacom permanently ready to go appealed to me, in case, when we go to Windows 11 or 12 and Novacom does not install, I have learned this new method and will be ready. That being said, I dont really use my Touchpads too much, I just like playing around with new install methods and reading these threads on XDA, and maybe helping a newbie or two. Like you said it would be fun if JC Sullins came back for a day or two and made some final comments on the state of the HP TOUCHPAD, but I guess he did not reply to HP_TOUCHPAD's request to have permission to change the TP Toolbox code for some important modifications that have been needed since 2015 and the advent of incompatible zips. Boy that term is also a blast from the past as was "ttinstall" which is going on in another thread as we speak.
smithylovestouchpad said:
I'll leave all this hocus pocus to your guys. I have two Windows 10 laptops with Novacom drivers installed and they work fine. I did have the one PC where the driver became corrupted, but a simple uninstall/ reinstall fixed it without issue.
It took you very long time to figure that out to a point of just given up, go to this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016636&postcount=406
And there was more than that,
I personally don't subscribe to one must use a PC with an old operating system installed to get Novacom to work.
Eventually it will come to that, in the software business nothing has lifetime support, the codes are changing with every update. That is why Virtualization has become so important, any software or Operating system can be use on new hardware if need it, or have a Live Linux CD to repair a broken Operating System. Is not hocus pocus, it is how is done at the present time.
BTW, what do you call an old operating system, XP? After 9 years of playing of with TouchPads, I have never had a problem installing or using Novacom. Any driver can become corrupted on any PC and a simple reinstall will fix it.
You did not know the driver was corrupted, had to use another PC to resolve the issue and any OS update can render the driver useless and the user will not even know it and then again blame the Tablet for been ""brick".
Old is when the Software Company will not update the OS anymore, on January 2020 Windows 7 becomes OLD.
I have never not been able to fix a driver issue on any PC that reinstalling the driver did not fix the issue. I am not saying that your method does not have a place in someone's software toolbox. But Novacom is so easy to install. Just right click on the Novacom Installer and click "Install" and in few seconds, it is installed. Put the TPTBv42, TWRP or WipeAll batch files in the Palm, Inc. folder and run them.
It is not as easy as you are stating, you are the perfect example. You did not know how to load an uImage into the Tablet. The user must be aware and know how to use the novacom command
novacom boot mem://
That just seems so much easier than burning ISO's to CD' s or thumb drives or in VM's and watching all these tutorials to learn how to use your Novacom Repair method. I'm not a software junkie like you guys. I like straight forward and simple. And one click to install Novacom is SIMPLE!
Having the Novacom installed on any PC will not fix any Tablet when connected. Plug in a tablet with the triangle or USB symbol to any of your PC with the novacom driver and it will not even show anywhere.
What does the user do then?
Connect the Tablet to an up to date OS and it will not recognized it, not even automatically download the drivers for it from the OS update servers, which in theory by Plug and Play any device connected to the new OS should be recognized and automatically search and install the driver.
Hats off to you HPTP for creating an interesting method. Just not my cup of tea.
Smithy
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On the next Operating System upgrade, the support for old drivers could be block or it could actually crash the system. Does that mean the PC can not be updated or maintain just to use the Novacom drivers to get something done on the Tablet.
Every user can use any method that is easier for them, but the more options and solutions the better as you never know when it maybe need it.
DoubleStuff said:
All valid points Smithy, I too have Novacom installed on my Windows 10 64bit laptop, but last time I checked more and more Novacom links to install the software were broken and they were getting harder to find, and I was hearing of others having issues trying to install it on newer PC's.
So the idea of having a Novacom permanently ready to go appealed to me, in case, when we go to Windows 11 or 12 and Novacom does not install, I have learned this new method and will be ready. That being said, I dont really use my Touchpads too much, I just like playing around with new install methods and reading these threads on XDA, and maybe helping a newbie or two. Like you said it would be fun if JC Sullins came back for a day or two and made some final comments on the state of the HP TOUCHPAD, but I guess he did not reply to HP_TOUCHPAD's request to have permission to change the TP Toolbox code for some important modifications that have been needed since 2015 and the advent of incompatible zips. Boy that term is also a blast from the past as was "ttinstall" which is going on in another thread as we speak.
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I was always under the impression that all this is open source. That as long as credit was given, one could modify and adapt any thing related to Android, Linux and the like. Why would Sullins care if HPTP updated and improved TPTB? If he has the knowledge and skills, all five or ten of us who still use a TouchPad would benefit. When you run TPTB, no where do you see anything about it being copyrighted or that modifying or improving it is prohibited. Where people get in trouble, they take a program or app, rename it, put their name on it and put it out as their own.
So what is going on concerning ttinstall in another thread? Link?
Smithy
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HP_TOUCHPAD said:
On the next Operating System upgrade, the support for old drivers could be block or it could actually crash the system. Does that mean the PC can not be updated or maintain just to use the Novacom drivers to get something done on the Tablet.
Every user can use any method that is easier for them, but the more options and solutions the better as you never know when it maybe need it.
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You missed commenting on a couple of statements I made, 1. I am not saying that your method does not have a place in someone's software toolbox. 2. Hats off to you HPTP for creating an interesting method. It's just not my cup of tea. Those were complements.
Lastly, you are WRONG, I did and do know how to load a uImage, it was the corrupted Novacom driver that was throwing me a curve. Once I used a second PC to prove it could be done, I went back to the first PC, and reinstalled the Novacom drivers. That's called trouble-shooting pal. And your link to post 406 proves my point.
Smithy
DoubleStuff said:
All valid points Smithy, I too have Novacom installed on my Windows 10 64bit laptop, but last time I checked more and more Novacom links to install the software were broken and they were getting harder to find, and I was hearing of others having issues trying to install it on newer PC's.
The universal Novacom installer stopped working long ago, it was an interesting and effective concept back then.
So the idea of having a Novacom permanently ready to go appealed to me, in case, when we go to Windows 11 or 12 and Novacom does not install, I have learned this new method and will be ready.
It is 100% reliable every single time, and if use on a Virtual Machine the user can fix the Tablet no matter what type of OS or how new the PC, as long as it has USB ports.
That being said, I dont really use my Touchpads too much, I just like playing around with new install methods and reading these threads on XDA, and maybe helping a newbie or two. Like you said it would be fun if JC Sullins came back for a day or two and made some final comments on the state of the HP TOUCHPAD,
The HP Touchpad is a Palm device that uses WebOS. The experts for this type of operating system can be found at
https://www.webosnation.com/
but I guess he did not reply to HP_TOUCHPAD's request
I did not contacted JC Sullins as the account on XDA has not been active.
to have permission to change the TP Toolbox code for some important modifications that have been needed since 2015 and the advent of incompatible zips. Boy that term is also a blast from the past as was "ttinstall" which is going on in another thread as we speak.
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The thread about modifying the ToolBox can be found on my guide, read it !
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/Click HERE for how to modify the ToolBox
Also to mentioned, the HP Touchpad is the perfect Device to learn Android OS. If you have an Android Smartphone, is risky to modified the OS or make changes, it can be bricked and no way to make a phone call !
The Tablet can be use as the experiment device and see how the internal of the OS works.
One of the most important is the Ramdisk, which required a Linux OS. The user have total control by using this ISO to make any permanent modification and learn. It is not only an OS with Novacom Driver, read the guide again for everything that it can do.
smithylovestouchpad said:
I was always under the impression that all this is open source.
I know Andriod is open source and most of the developers like Flintman et all post their source on github which is open to the public. But as per JC Sullins TPTB this is posted on some of his code.
# This script is Copyright (c) 2014 James Sullins, All rights reserved.
# James (JC) Sullins, aka jcsullins
# No modifications or distribution without permission
That as long as credit was given, one could modify and adapt any thing related to Android, Linux and the like. Why would Sullins care if HPTP updated and improved TPTB? If he has the knowledge and skills, all five or ten of us who still use a TouchPad would benefit.
LOL, 5 or 10 users, that is funny and you maybe right that their is 5 or 10 "regulars" who post on these threads, but I have posted the number of downloads of the alternate method
and its in the thousands. And even the most recent zip I posted in July already has over 300 downloads.
When you run TPTB, no where do you see anything about it being copyrighted or that modifying or improving it is prohibited. Where people get in trouble, they take a program or app, rename it, put their name on it and put it out as their own.
So what is going on concerning ttinstall in another thread? Link?
look at the last couple of pages of this link you will see the ttinstall mentioned
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/android-9-pie-dirty-unicorns-v13-0-t3911621
Smithy
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See my comments in blue above.
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HP_TOUCHPAD said:
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I did not contacted JC Sullins as the account on XDA has not been active.
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DoubleStuff says,
Ok well somebody did, because I am quoting your comment from this post below...
HP_TOUCHPAD says,
It could be the only file to load, but I am not going to change it, a request was sent to jcsulling for permission, but no replied. Anywhere jcsullins is " Many Thanks"
see this post for context:
Post #179
DoubleStuff says,
Ok well somebody did, because I am quoting your comment from this post below...
HP_TOUCHPAD says,
It could be the only file to load, but I am not going to change it, a request was sent to jcsulling for permission, but no replied. Anywhere jcsullins is " Many Thanks"
see this post for context:
Post #179[/QUOTE]
Again read this specific post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78649680&postcount=3
Probably a request was never sent, it was a discussion on how to removed the restriction of installing only specifics ROMs. Keep in mind I am not a developer and not connected to that side of the spectrum, I looked for an alternative and found out that I could use TWRP to re-partition and use TWRP to flash any ROM and that is where the Wipe_All came to be.
I saw your post elsewhere about the java installer for Novacom not working any more. There is a Windows installer version you can download here:
https://www.sheldonsblog.com/cant-download-novacom-drivers-for-windows-to-connect-hp-touchpad/
Just right click on NovacomInstaller_x64.msi and click install. There is a 32 bit version too. Easy peazy. No java installer needed.
Smithy
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HP_TOUCHPAD said:
DoubleStuff says,
Ok well somebody did, because I am quoting your comment from this post below...
HP_TOUCHPAD says,
It could be the only file to load, but I am not going to change it, a request was sent to jcsulling for permission, but no replied. Anywhere jcsullins is " Many Thanks"
see this post for context:
Post #179
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Again read this specific post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78649680&postcount=3
Probably a request was never sent, it was a discussion on how to removed the restriction of installing only specifics ROMs. Keep in mind I am not a developer and not connected to that side of the spectrum, I looked for an alternative and found out that I could use TWRP to re-partition and use TWRP to flash any ROM and that is where the Wipe_All came to be. [/QUOTE]
You know there is an easy work-around. Just use one of the compatible recoveries and gapps files available and immediately after installing, flash the updated version of TWRP. Worked like a charm for me when I reverted my TP back to Sullin's CM11 sans swap. Fresh start, complete data reset and all that.
Smithy
P.S. I agree with DS, sure looks like some kind of contact with Sullins was attempted.
smithylovestouchpad said:
I saw your post elsewhere about the java installer for Novacom not working any more. There is a Windows installer version you can download here:
Just right click on NovacomInstaller_x64.msi and click install. There is a 32 bit version too. Easy peazy. No java installer needed.
Smithy
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Thanks Smithy I clicked the link and dowloaded the NovacomInstallers and put them on a
thumb drive along with HPTP's .iso file, because you never know how long these "rogue" links
will be up, and when I am going to need it.
As per contacting JCSullins controversy, I can't find the link, but I believe Flintman tried to contact him about the TPTB code back in the Evervolv 5 days, and maybe even some others have tried, and of course Sullins XDA has been inactive for quite a while, but I am sure ( he is no dummy ) he has probably created a new account and comes on here and poses as a newbie once in a while.
I am hearing rumors now that Android Q, will not be named after a tasty treat, because these treats names, Petit Four, Cupcake, Donut, Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread, Honeycomb, IceCream Sandwich, JellyBean, KitKat, Lollipop, Marshmallow, Nougat, Oreo and Pie even though popular treats in the USA, does not mean these treats have worldwide appeal, nor were they fully understood in other languages. So I am hearing Android Q will just be named Android 10, so I guess
we have reached an "end of an era".
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LOL, 5 or 10 users, that is funny and you maybe right that their is 5 or 10 "regulars" who post on these threads, but I have posted the number of downloads of the alternate method and its in the thousands. And even the most recent zip I posted in July already has over 300 downloads.
Good to know there are a few lurkers out there who choose to take but not participate. It's nice to get feedback on your work as well as an occasional thanks.
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# This script is Copyright (c) 2014 James Sullins, All rights reserved.
# James (JC) Sullins, aka jcsullins
# No modifications or distribution without permission
Would have been nice if he has posted that in the OP of his thread instead of burying it in his code. I'm not a lawyer, but just because you put that claim of being copyrighted out there does not mean it is. I doubt if he actually ever filed the paperwork to copyright TPTB. Although as arrogant as he always came across, he just might have done so. God forbid that someone else could help improve on HIS work.
Smithy
DoubleStuff said:
See my comments in blue above.
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DoubleStuff says,
Ok well somebody did, because I am quoting your comment from this post below...
HP_TOUCHPAD says,
It could be the only file to load, but I am not going to change it, a request was sent to jcsulling for permission, but no replied. Anywhere jcsullins is " Many Thanks"
see this post for context:
Post #179
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Just curious, so you create this Linux Live CD or run this operating system in a virtual machine and regardless of the PC you run it on, it is going to work? So Linux contains all the drivers needed to work on all the hardware out there, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Sony, Asus, Acer, Toshiba, desktop, laptop, regardless?
Smithy
smithylovestouchpad said:
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Would have been nice if he has posted that in the OP of his thread instead of burying it in his code. I'm not a lawyer, but just because you put that claim of being copyrighted out there does not mean it is. I doubt if he actually ever filed the paperwork to copyright TPTB. Although as arrogant as he always came across, he just might have done so. God forbid that someone else could help improve on HIS work.
snip.....
Smithy
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I agree with you on the copyright Smithy, because recently a music artist named Katy Perry was sued by Flame, because Flame said Katy Perry copied from his song, when she created the song "Dark Horse", if only Katy would have given Flame some kudos/credit for the song, I think Flame would have been OK with it. Plus HPTP wants people to "save a click" and not even press the thanks button, I am sure he does not want any money for his work. So if he gets sued, what is 50% of $0.00, you guessed it a big zero. LOL. I have learned so much over the past 2 years because of everybodies work in trying to improve the touchpad install method, that its worth it for me. But I wish JCSullins could come back for a day or two and tell us his final summary of the past 4 years.
And maybe JC could mend the fences with some people he was at odds with, it would be like the big reunion of Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin, after they had that bitter split for for 20 years, finally reunited during the 1976 Jerry Lewis Telethon.
smithylovestouchpad said:
Just curious, so you create this Linux Live CD or run this operating system in a virtual machine and regardless of the PC you run it on, it is going to work? So Linux contains all the drivers needed to work on all the hardware out there, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Sony, Asus, Acer, Toshiba, desktop, laptop, regardless?
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All your comments, suggestion and critics are well welcome. The most valuable asset of the thread are the comments, questions, answers and debate, that's what we learned from. Nobody has to agree or use any specific method, but the most important is to post valuable and helpful information for any user to have the best experience using the HP TP.
On the Linux Operating System the drivers are incorporated into the Kernel, there are many versions of Linux with different Kernels. Most Linux OS can boot on any Computer and provide support for a lot of hardware and devices, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Sony, Asus, Acer, Toshiba and Apple. All those Personal Computer brands use the same Processor, Intel or AMD with same technology standards. Linux is very powerful it does not need to be install to run on a computer, is call a Live CD or (USB Flash drive).
An example:
The computer hard drive is failing and not booting into the OS, or the boot sector is damage. A Linux (CD) (USB) can be connected to the computer and it loads the Linux OS into memory ( RAMDISK ). Data can be copy from the failing hard drive or the boot sector can be restore, it can resolve many issues.
The Linux version used for the HP Touchpad Novacom Repair is based on Puppy Linux compatible with Ubuntu Bionic. If you read the info the OS is less than 300 MB with more software support that of a full modern OS. It will boot on any Computer, from 20 years ago to the most current. The computer does not need a hard drive and no more than 1GB of RAM. The smallest Linux Distro is Tiny Core :
https://distro.ibiblio.org/tinycorelinux/downloads.html
Is a 16 MB Operating System that support most computers with Graphics, Sound, Networking, Mouse, Keyboard, CD, Hard drive.
The most current FireFox browser can be install to a total OS of about 200 MB and is all loaded into Memory and due to that even a computer that is about 15 years old will browse the web faster that any new one !
Booting from a Virtual Machine will work 100 % on anything even on an ARM processor. It can even be run on any modern Android Smartphone, meaning your phone can connect to the Tablet to repair it.
Virtualization adds a layer of software codes that mimic the hardware that the OS needs to run from.
Puppy Linux is the distro that I found small enough that supports the Novavcom Driver and allows for the Ramdisk to be modified. At only 355 MB total it can be copy onto a 1GB flash drive and still have 700 MB for extra files. It can be boot on any old computer, with no hard drive, monitor, keyboard or mouse. The only thing extra is a network card and USB port. Once it boots VNC Server is active and using VNC Viewer it can be control remotely. There are many ways on using it but no matter how, it will always work as intended.
DoubleStuff said:
Plus HPTP wants people to "save a click" and not even press the thanks button, I am sure he does not want any money for his work. So if he gets sued, what is 50% of $0.00, you guessed it a big zero. LOL.
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Is posted on my Guide, I am a user not a developer and all the modifications I am doing is what any user can do, but I am trying to make it easier for others to apply on to the Tablet. I am not creating any proprietary code or special software. But there are other "humans been" that the only thing they care is personal gain and will use others people ideas and work, modified it and call it their own. It happens all over, look into this web site XDA and you will find it. There is a reason for a patent registration that is stronger than just a copyright and even patents takes years to get approved and still others use it.
Jc Sullins spent a lot of time creating the ToolBox and just posted it for everyone to use. Anyone can easily modified it, repack it and distributed with another name and charge, that is the reality. But the ToolBox is not a proprietary software or code, is a version of Angstrom v2015.01, Built from branch: master, Revision: 038d832 (open source )
http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
Running scripts to perform the task with busybox and LVM. There is no custom codes, but the script and that is just a way of writing a command to be executed.
Attached are the list of scripts from the Toolbox, when a user enter an option the script it call and executed by busybox or LVM.
It is very well done and perfectly executed. If the WiFi drivers can be ported to Anstrom Arm OS, a system can be built that will do it all, with web browser built in to automatically download the latest Recovery, Android Version, Resize all Partitions and automatically fix any issues. But the drivers for the HP TP are proprietary and not available or easily portable to other OS.
Read very careful this links, it could have provided the information to create the HP Touchpad Debrick, the Pre phone runs on WebOS, same as the Tablet.
One situation which cannot be recovered so easily is the extremely unlikely event of corruption of the installed bootloader (bootie) stored on the Pre's flash disk.
And this is the Most important, that clearly state that a WebOS device can not be brick even if the bootie is damage.
If bootie on the flash disk has been damaged or corrupted in such a way that booting into recovery mode is not possible, the Pre is still not "bricked" as the OMAP3430 processor in the Pre provides for a mechanism to boot code from its USB interface. At this time this operation has not been performed on a Pixi, and will not be the same as it has a different core.
https://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1564938
smithylovestouchpad said:
I saw your post elsewhere about the java installer for Novacom not working any more. There is a Windows installer version you can download here:
https://www.sheldonsblog.com/cant-download-novacom-drivers-for-windows-to-connect-hp-touchpad/
Just right click on NovacomInstaller_x64.msi and click install. There is a 32 bit version too. Easy peazy. No java installer needed.
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Thank you for sharing the information, it is good to know that you recently found the Novacom drivers for Windows. I do have all the drivers for all the OS.
On this post August 5 when your Windows Novacom Driver malfunctioned, you asked for the drivers:
By any chance do you have the novacomd installation files. I could try reinstalling that. I have even tried a different USB cable.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016787&postcount=418
The java installer was the Universal to get it working on any OS, but it need it java to be install and that was another challenge plus about 200 MB extra just to use a driver.
The Windows driver installed on my Windows x64 with no issues, attached are the screenshots.
It is very easy to install, just a click. But having the Novacom Installed on Windows or any other OS does not mean that the Tablet will get fix. Is only a driver that was created in 2009 to communicate with Palm phones that came with software that used the driver.
Your issued is the perfect example and this is how it all started:
I am looking at triangle with an exclamation point in it and www.palm/ROM below that. I'm not bricked so to speak, but I no longer have a boot loader, so the tablet is useless. I now have a nice paperweight.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80014852&postcount=391
With the HP Touchpad Novacom Repair Android, is not only the driver but the user knows what to do when they see a symbol on the tablet screen and the only thing to do is connected and click. It will always work as long as the PC has a USB port and the Tablet connection works.
If the user is using any other OS, Windows as an example, it must know how to open a command prompt in the Palm, Inc directory.
That is not an easy task for a regular user, you could not do it as in your post:
OK, using Windows File Explorer, I navigate to the Palm, Inc folder and right click the mouse. The options menu that opens does not give me a selection to open a command window
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016787&postcount=418
As you can recall, it was a challenge for a user like you that claims using Novacom drivers is as easy as a click and all done, well think what it can be to others using different operating system.
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
Thank you for sharing the information, it is good to know that you recently found the Novacom drivers for Windows. I do have all the drivers for all the OS.
On this post August 5 when your Windows Novacom Driver malfunctioned, you asked for the drivers:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016787&postcount=418
The java installer was the Universal to get it working on any OS, but it need it java to be install and that was another challenge plus about 200 MB extra just to use a driver.
The Windows driver installed on my Windows x64 with no issues, attached are the screenshots.
It is very easy to install, just a click. But having the Novacom Installed on Windows or any other OS does not mean that the Tablet will get fix. Is only a driver that was created in 2009 to communicate with Palm phones that came with software that used the driver.
Your issued is the perfect example and this is how it all started:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80014852&postcount=391
With the HP Touchpad Novacom Repair Android, is not only the driver but the user knows what to do when they see a symbol on the tablet screen and the only thing to do is connected and click. It will always work as long as the PC has a USB port and the Tablet connection works.
If the user is using any other OS, Windows as an example, it must know how to open a command prompt in the Palm, Inc directory.
That is not an easy task for a regular user, you could not do it as in your post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80016787&postcount=418
As you can recall, it was a challenge for a user like you that claims using Novacom drivers is as easy as a click and all done, well think what it can be to others using different operating system.
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So what's your point. Only thing I see is you saying I'm stupid and you are so smart. That your way is the best and only way because you created it. Do you get a thrill putting people down? I have posted a link to an installer that does not require java, you put me down for that. I pay you complements, you don't even have the courtesy to say thank you. The only issue I had was a corrupted driver that caused the problem. You try to make it out that I don't know what the hell I am doing. I was the one who figured out it was a corrupt driver and I shared that. And why is it that someone asks for a link to a possibly needed file and no help from you. You say you have the Novacom driver for all OS's. How come you could not have provided a link? And BTW, after the fact I realize your suggestions were misleading. To run TWRP, TPTB or your Wipe routine on the TouchPad, all one has to do is run the associated script. No command window needed. I acknowledged early on that hardware was my area of expertise, not software, writing scripts or code. So why are you holding that against me? Oh wait, that makes you the big man cause you know it all and I admitted I did not understand what you were saying. You must live in a really big building to accommodate your huge ego. But that's OK, my TouchPads run just fine without your Wipes, Swaps, Optimizations or Reducers.
And since I am about to say "adios" to this little circus, you should really find someone to edit your threads, posts and guides. I asked you before if English was your first language and you said it wasn't, and it's very obvious it is not. At times it is really difficult to understand what you are trying to say because of it. You never say anything in your videos. Now we know why, no one could understand you.
Well, I've had my fun at your expense. So I only have one thing left to say, BYTE ME!

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