In Settings > Storage, "system" is using 25GB of storage. Does that seem excessive?
Running stock EU ROM.
I am not sure how it can be 25Gs. Mine shows 12 being used by system.
Mine is 15GB, but I always thought that it's mainly size of /system and /vendor partitions and that should be the same for everyone. Maybe it's time to dig into the Android source code to see what is being counted into the system category..
For me using 128GB global stock rom, with Dec patch, uses 11GB of system only. I don't sure if it includes both system and vendor partitions, or just system partition.
A slight difference in system storage size between Global and EU rom is normal, but in this case, it is quite abnormal. I don't know what the cost either.
Do you do any kind of modifications to your device before? Like unlocking bootloader, rooting, etc.
PKQ1.190416.001.v10.3.13.0.PFQEUXM - 64GB version, Dec patch: 11GB system
The answer is probably really in the source code:
https://android.googlesource.com/pl.../storage/StorageItemPreferenceController.java
"Everything else that hasn't already been attributed is tracked as belonging to system."
@barth2 - you'll need to figure out which files don't fall into any of the available categories..
MarcusMario0605 said:
Do you do any kind of modifications to your device before? Like unlocking bootloader, rooting, etc.
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I am rooted and have a few magisk modules. They are all small, a few megs at most.
Solid explorer shows my root is 2.9gb total and internal memory is 48.33gb total. I'll be curious to hear that other people get.
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Any bug this build version.
Mine is taking 20GB
Follow up: I inserted an SD card and moved some of my files on to it and now system is down to 10GB. So it was just miscounting my files as part of 'system'.
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i have comb, 3.3 1.1.
i go to storage view in settings.
it shows, 13 gigs, 12 available.
in the internal view it shows total 1.8 and 122 mb for media.
i get a notification saying low on space..
i cannot instal any app.
whats up?
new-to-it said:
i have comb, 3.3 1.1.
i go to storage view in settings.
it shows, 13 gigs, 12 available.
in the internal view it shows total 1.8 and 122 mb for media.
i get a notification saying low on space..
i cannot instal any app.
whats up?
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Out of 16 gigs built in storage, 13 is set aside as regular sdcard storage while 2 gigs is used for "internal data" and 1 gig is not used at all. If you use the NVflash from the teamdrh ICS rom you can re-format it to have 4 gigs internal and 12 for storage.
The easy thing you can do since your are still on honeycomb is to install app2sd and move some of your data files to the "storage part" (13gigs) which will free that space up in your "internal data" (2gigs) or you can go through and uninstall any apps you no longer use.
i have 4 apps right now, the rest are the google stuff apps crap, which i assume cant go anywhere in fear of them not knowing when i fart..
but
without using the app2sd-(i cant fit it right now)-i can go to settings and move apps, but- where it sez move to- it sez move to usb then after moved it sez move to tablet.
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Out of 16 gigs built in storage, 13 is set aside as regular sdcard storage while 2 gigs is used for "internal data" and 1 gig is not used at all.
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No, no space is wasted like this--certainly not 1G. Use the busybox df instead of the system df. This has confused other users before.
If you use the NVflash from the teamdrh ICS rom you can re-format it to have 4 gigs internal and 12 for storage.
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This is incorrect. Nvflash works on the NAND chip, not on SD cards. To repartition SD cards, use CWM, or this easy method if you want to keep existing data.
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new-to-it said:
i have comb, 3.3 1.1.
i go to storage view in settings.
it shows, 13 gigs, 12 available.
in the internal view it shows total 1.8 and 122 mb for media.
i get a notification saying low on space..
i cannot instal any app.
whats up?
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This has been reported on GtabComb-b3.3 by some other users, but, I was never able to get to the bottom of the problem. Most users will just repartition their SD cards and make the problem away before I can get to troubleshooting the problem.
Get me a logcat, dmesg and other outputs after you've tried to install an app from Market. See this post for the commands to run.
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i can go to settings and move apps, but- where it sez move to- it sez move to usb then after moved it sez move to tablet.
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That is the correct behaviour. Move to USB moves apps to /sdcard. Move to tablet moves the apps back into /data.
I meant to say you could use CWM to make 4 gigs. Where did that 1gig go?
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I meant to say you could use CWM to make 4 gigs. Where did that 1gig go?
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The missing 1 gig is the symlink I am working on that is set aside for data/cache and data/dalvic cache. Since the transition to make ROMs larger and our nand being only 512m that was put within either the ROM, CWM, or the boot.img so that everything will run without chopping away at the System to make it lighter, the way I do. If you Flash the nand with the older 1.2 NVflash and the older 1.2 ROMS that 1 gig will return and cache will return to its proper placement within the set stock partitions.
See, what you guys have latched on to is the total size of the /sdcard partition; but, that, is a red herring:
Partition sizes are fixed by CWM when you repartition the SD card--it is not changed in any other way. And, since the size of the internal SD card is fixed, and since all CWMs versions partition the SD card the same way each time, the total sizes of the both partitions cannot change drastically. Therefore, barring filesystem corruption--unlikely here because the only symptom is an inability to install new apps, the 13 GB value being reported has got to be an artifact of rounding, as I mentioned above. Plus, that 1GB is supposedly part of /sdcard, so no space is going to be deducted from /data (where apps usually live) anyway.
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Where did that 1gig go?
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Nowhere. This is an artifact of the rounding out process. See above.
As usual, I just can't understand what Nobe's trying to say. Going for the most straight-forward reading, however:
nobe1976 said:
The missing 1 gig is the symlink
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Nope. The maximum size of a symbolic link on all the standard filesystems seen on the gtablet is only 255 bytes--not 1G.
I am working on that is set aside for data/cache and data/dalvic cache. Since the transition to make ROMs larger and our nand being only 512m that was put within either the ROM, CWM, or the boot.img so that everything will run without chopping away at the System to make it lighter, the way I do.
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Wrong ROM, wrong partition, and, wrong bootloader.
First of all, the user's clearly stated that he has GtabComb-3.3 and a 1.1 bootloader--not any of the ICS/JB ROMs which require a different nvflash package. Second, even if the entire contents of /cache were in /data, it still wouldn't cause any reduction in the size of the /sdcard partition, which is entirely separate. See description above.
If you Flash the nand with the older 1.2 NVflash and the older 1.2 ROMS that 1 gig will return and cache will return to its proper placement within the set stock partitions.
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Changing the bootloader won't fix the user's problems--except as a side-effect of re-installing the ROM from scratch.
We'll have to wait until the user comes back with the various outputs and do some more tests to really find out the cause of the user's real problem: Why can't he install any apps even with enough space on /data? He also can move apps to and from the SD card just fine, apparently.
I didn't mean for miss information on this OP's problem. The 1 gig issue that redeyedjedi is seeing is in fact within the updated jellybean and ICS ROMs only. I should have made that noted. To my understanding after the busy box command you and I went through later this year is that it does impact the data partition on the updated firmware only. I soon realized that after messing with a certain /etc file that it looks to be a virtual swap placement. Busybox reads now 4 gig of data with a 4096/0 partition set in recovery after replacing that file with he that sets proper cache within /dev partition. The fact that it still shows up on standard df means that the ROM somewhere is still showing something there if I am correct or could be a ghost or something. Correct me if I am wrong please.
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nobe1976 said:
The 1 gig issue that redeyedjedi is seeing is in fact within the updated jellybean and ICS ROMs only. I should have made that noted.
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No.There is no 1G issue. It is just an artifact of how the partition spaces are displayed in the ROMs, and in the system-supplied df command on all Android versions. It is to avoid this sort of confusion that I ask users to use the busybox df command which displays its values (total space, free space, used space) in 1-K blocks.
To my understanding after the busy box command you and I went through later this year is that it does impact the data partition on the updated firmware only. I soon realized that after messing with a certain /etc file that it looks to be a virtual swap placement. Busybox reads now 4 gig of data with a 4096/0 partition set in recovery after replacing that file with he that sets proper cache within /dev partition. The fact that it still shows up on standard df means that the ROM somewhere is still showing something there if I am correct or could be a ghost or something. Correct me if I am wrong please.
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Gladly--if only I could understand what you were after. Can you make your questions precise, mate?
Here's another one:
When I go into Settings > Storage, my Jetstream shows I've got 10.77GB Available space under Internal Storage (out of 11.81GB). Under Tablet Storage, I've got 4.97GB Available (out of 16.12GB). As for the Internal Storage part, it has been like this, more or less, since I first bought the Jetstream 7 months ago.
My question is why do I get to use only 16GB out of the 32GB the Jetstream ships with? How do I get to use the Internal Storage for extra space? I had both the Tablet Storage (SD) and the External SD maxed out at one point, and needed to use that free 10GB. I ended up deleting a lot of stuff so that I could go on using it.
Anyone know how to access the unreachable 10GB under Internal Storage?
love the color coding...
its a bug. that's the state of things for now. maybe someday someone could take of it..
Notontherugman said:
Here's another one:
When I go into Settings > Storage, my Jetstream shows I've got 10.77GB Available space under Internal Storage (out of 11.81GB). Under Tablet Storage, I've got 4.97GB Available (out of 16.12GB). As for the Internal Storage part, it has been like this, more or less, since I first bought the Jetstream 7 months ago.
My question is why do I get to use only 16GB out of the 32GB the Jetstream ships with? How do I get to use the Internal Storage for extra space? I had both the Tablet Storage (SD) and the External SD maxed out at one point, and needed to use that free 10GB. I ended up deleting a lot of stuff so that I could go on using it.
Anyone know how to access the unreachable 10GB under Internal Storage?
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I used an app called partition table. As per that, the ~11GB of storage is assigned to the partition /data
So am trying to copy some stuff from my tablet storage (/sdcard) to the /data folder (under a new folder) using Root Explorer.
Shall report back with the details.
Edit: So I tried it - works. Can store the data in a folder within the /data partition. The available free space also changes. However, using apps like MX video player or ezpdf or anything else for that matter, I can not see the data I stored there - I need to go to root explorer and open the files from there. So I guess if you willing to live with this work around for now, may be worth it as we get ~10GB more additional storage. However, you will need to be extremely careful as to not delete anything besides your own data from the /data partition as it can cause quite some havoc if some essential files are deleted. And another important fact is that while wiping for installing a new rom/taking a nandroid-all that you place in the /data folder will also be wiped/backed up. So simpler solution till we get a dev to repartition the /data folder and allocate the additional free space (or part of it) to the /sdcard folder, it will be more sensible to just use a sdcard.
i've mentioned it to show_p1984.
he played with the device this week, and should probably start developing soon.
i'm guessing that if there's a work around - he could create a permanent solution.
guru_shastri said:
i've mentioned it to show_p1984.
he played with the device this week, and should probably start developing soon.
i'm guessing that if there's a work around - he could create a permanent solution.
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Basically the partition table needs reformatting - I know it is done and can be done. Have seen it done for the Samsung Galaxy S, ZTE Balde and also for Samsung Galaxy Ace. I do not however know how to do it - I think while making the rom, changes will have to be integrated because formatting the partitions is part of the process of rom flashing.
Also, there may a temporary easier workaround. There are apps like link2sd which basically make the android system think that a partition on your sd card is the system's /data partition. So we need the reverse. We will need a script which will create a folder in the /sdcard partition which will be linked to the /data partition of the system (or a folder in there). So if we add in some data/files into that particular folder, then it will automatically be referring to the /data partition. It will be like making a folder (say "STUFF") which has its location as "/data/STUFF" and having a shortcut to that folder in the partition /sdcard. We can try to create shortcuts and stuff but it will not be functional because it will be a shortcut. By linking it, we would be able to fool the 3rd party apps into thinking the data is on the sdcard while in reality it is stored on the /data partition, This is basiclally hypothetical logic based on what I found and my experience with link2sd. How far it is true/practical and going to work, I have no idea - so we will have to leave it up the devs.
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Notontherugman said:
Here's another one:
When I go into Settings > Storage, my Jetstream shows I've got 10.77GB Available space under Internal Storage (out of 11.81GB). Under Tablet Storage, I've got 4.97GB Available (out of 16.12GB). As for the Internal Storage part, it has been like this, more or less, since I first bought the Jetstream 7 months ago.
My question is why do I get to use only 16GB out of the 32GB the Jetstream ships with? How do I get to use the Internal Storage for extra space? I had both the Tablet Storage (SD) and the External SD maxed out at one point, and needed to use that free 10GB. I ended up deleting a lot of stuff so that I could go on using it.
Anyone know how to access the unreachable 10GB under Internal Storage?
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And I think it will be more sensible to allowed to use a maximum of around 6-7 GB of the 12GB partition so that we will still have ample storage space of apps and stuff.
For all its cons, I still love this tablet.... :S
(and have yet to find a tablet with a better lens/camera)
Notontherugman said:
For all its cons, I still love this tablet.... :S
(and have yet to find a tablet with a better lens/camera)
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Agreed.
Hi I am using the Galaxy Player 4.0 (intl) and this is how my internal memory is laid out (check the attached zip file).
I wanted to ask, is this normal because I am pretty sure it isn't and I probably messed it up somehow will all the flashes I did to it.
Aren't the "two weird partitions" supposed to be merged?
Anyone? They only thing you have to do is either download DiskInfo, run it and tell me if you have the same layout or go to Task Manager > Storage and check your partitions from there.
Powernun said:
Hi I am using the Galaxy Player 4.0 (intl) and this is how my internal memory is laid out (check the attached zip file).
I wanted to ask, is this normal because I am pretty sure it isn't and I probably messed it up somehow will all the flashes I did to it.
Aren't the "two weird partitions" supposed to be merged?
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This is how it should be there's no worry.
The first weird partition is the "internal" sd card where when you plug your player, you can put on stuff there.
The second one is the /data partition which is needed by the OS and the applications to put out their data related stuff.
As those devices are pre-ICS ones, those 2 partitions aren't merged and I honestly consider it a plus (if someone messes /data, he or she doesn't mess all his or her internal space.) The same thing applies to the 5.0 as well. and pre-ICS devices.
zaclimon said:
This is how it should be there's no worry.
The first weird partition is the "internal" sd card where when you plug your player, you can put on stuff there.
The second one is the /data partition which is needed by the OS and the applications to put out their data related stuff.
As those devices are pre-ICS ones, those 2 partitions aren't merged and I honestly consider it a plus (if someone messes /data, he or she doesn't mess all his or her internal space.) The same thing applies to the 5.0 as well. and pre-ICS devices.
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Thank you very much for your reply.
I was concerned because I tried to install CyanogenMod 11 (by following your guide) but it had an error that said that I did not have enough space so I thought that my partitions were messed up but I guess I did something wrong so I am going to try again.
hi,
I flashed xiaomi.eu rom on mido of my uncle, it shows around 25gb of usable storage space.. is this correct?
on my redmi note 3 with slimrom I got 29gb free.
second question .. I flash the rom in twrp and wanted to delete the rom file after that. but I just can't find it? might it be that this file still uses space?
In the 32gb storage, system, data, and other things use it also. It's not only the space for media etc... And don't even compare other devices, because they are all different with different size ROM's etc..
Here it is lol i have only 1.5 gb left
Anyone know why if we install a custom rom, it's still missing 6GB that goes to "System"? I get around 24-25GB after installing RR.
strifej said:
Anyone know why if we install a custom rom, it's still missing 6GB that goes to "System"? I get around 24-25GB after installing RR.
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Install the app "DiskInfo" and it will show you how much space has been allocated to each partition. On mine (Slim) the system partition is 3GB, and the data partition is 24GB.
DarthJabba9 said:
Install the app "DiskInfo" and it will show you how much space has been allocated to each partition. On mine (Slim) the system partition is 3GB, and the data partition is 24GB.
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Yes, mine is similar, but there's missing space. There's still 5GB that's "System" but we can't use it and it's not being used by the ROM. Should be leftover from MIUI. Trying to figure out how to get back that space.. because 32GB isn't really that great when it's really 27GB (then less system, giving 22GB usable).
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Yes, mine is similar, but there's missing space. There's still 5GB that's "System" but we can't use it and it's not being used by the ROM. Should be leftover from MIUI. Trying to figure out how to get back that space.. because 32GB isn't really that great when it's really 27GB (then less system, giving 22GB usable).
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I am not sure why the space is not being recovered. Perhaps if you posted a screenshot of your disk map, as reported by DiskInfo, someone might be able to give helpful tips.
On the other hand, you can try installing Slim. It might well recover some of that space for you. I went from stock miui to MultiPro, to OctOS, to Slim. Clearly, somewhere along the line, something recovered all my space for me. By the way, when I refer to installing Slim, I mean a clean flash.
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I am not sure why the space is not being recovered. Perhaps if you posted a screenshot of your disk map, as reported by DiskInfo, someone might be able to give helpful tips.
On the other hand, you can try installing Slim. It might well recover some of that space for you. I went from stock miui to MultiPro, to OctOS, to Slim. Clearly, somewhere along the line, something recovered all my space for me. By the way, when I refer to installing Slim, I mean a clean flash.
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So, I ran Disk Info (thanks btw, great app) and I'm thinking the problem is the TMPFS mounts that are taking 2x1.5GB = 3GB away. Everything else looks normal. 3GB system, 24GB user.
strifej said:
So, I ran Disk Info (thanks btw, great app) and I'm thinking the problem is the TMPFS mounts that are taking 2x1.5GB = 3GB away. Everything else looks normal. 3GB system, 24GB user.
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No, that is not a problem. Everything looks as it should be (exactly the same on mine). I wouldn't worry if I were you. But if you want to try something else, then perhaps you can try cleaning your installed system with SD Maid. It is likely to recover some space from app corpses, etc.
Having a little difficult in where all my storage is.
You never get full use to all your storage. For example I get 238GB of usable storage on my 256GB card, 30GB usable on my 32GB card, 7.4 GB on my 8GB card, 58GB usable on my 64GB card.
I can pull up dozens of examples cause I own several memory cards or devices with nand flash. What I understand is the unusable part of storage almost never exceeds 10%
So I'm applying the same rule to the v60. 128GB should mean I should expect to have 115GB usable storage give or take of my advertised 128GB.
I just formatted my v60, and maybe it's because I'm on a fresh install, but my device is telling me I have 95GB usable with 90GB free.
So on a fresh format, no caches built up yet, only 90GB free of 95GB usable, on a 128GB phone...
There are 25GB of storage space I'm missing... Where is it?
Are you forgetting to account for the space used by the OS and related bloat? My Verizon branded V60 shows 37 GB used by system files.
Mine shows total memory 256GB, free 176GB, used 80.48 GB, where system only is 29GB on European unlocked model.
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Are you forgetting to account for the space used by the OS and related bloat? My Verizon branded V60 shows 37 GB used by system files.
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Im not forgetting, I want to know why 25GB is taken up for it.
The last LG device I owned was a G5, it's uncompressed rom was about 4GB. The most bloat-heavy rom I've ever encountered in my life was China's Miui 11, which uncompressed took up 7GB.
Just how much bloat does the v60 actually have to need a 25GB partition? Are you telling me the v60 rom really is that large?! Galaxy S20's compressed rom is only 3.8GB
Why is v60's Rom 25GB?
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Im not forgetting, I want to know why 25GB is taken up for it.
The last LG device I owned was a G5, it's uncompressed rom was about 4GB. The most bloat-heavy rom I've ever encountered in my life was China's Miui 11, which uncompressed took up 7GB.
Just how much bloat does the v60 actually have to need a 25GB partition? Are you telling me the v60 rom really is that large?! Galaxy S20's compressed rom is only 3.8GB
Why is v60's Rom 25GB?
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Just a guess, but probably related to the new seamless A/B updating, which takes up more space than prior versions of Android. It partitions what amounts to a second copy of the OS to your internal storage.
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Just a guess, but probably related to the new seamless A/B updating, which takes up more space than prior versions of Android. It partitions what amounts to a second copy of the OS to your internal storage.
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When did they start doing that?
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Just a guess, but probably related to the new seamless A/B updating, which takes up more space than prior versions of Android. It partitions what amounts to a second copy of the OS to your internal storage.
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That and also the other partitions. You have vendor and oem specific partitions. Some of those also have A/B slots. They start getting bigger when a phone like this goes to many different carriers as the vendor partition will have folders that each carrier can activate for their own use through a config file and some may also be location specific. In all I'll bet there are over 30 different partitions and many of those are quite small.
See attached screenshot from xda. Shows the OnePlus 6 had 72 partitions when they implemented A/B OTA handling. Google introduced A/B OTA with Android Nougat. So has been around for quite some time.
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When did they start doing that?
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I think it became optional with Android 7.0 (I know it was Nougat), but not every manufacturer utilized it right away. I'd personally rather the old way to save the amount of storage used, but the main benefit is this ability to roll back if an OS update glitches.
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That and also the other partitions. You have vendor and oem specific partitions. Some of those also have A/B slots. They start getting bigger when a phone like this goes to many different carriers as the vendor partition will have folders that each carrier can activate for their own use through a config file and some may also be location specific. In all I'll bet there are over 15 different partitions and many of those are quite small.
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That's the first I've heard of this. I thought only carrier specific files for a given version were on the phone.