Upcoming G8x w. Dual Screen Review (Fielding all questions) - LG G8X ThinQ Guides, News, & Discussion

Greetings all!
So I've been using my (Sprint) LG G8x ThinQ since middle of December and have now been using the dual screen for the better part of two weeks as well. I feel pretty confident that I can now give a full review of the device along with the attachment...
But before I put out my review here, I wanted to see if anyone had any questions or specifics they would like more information on.
I am more than happy to cover anything that may be on your mind about the device as well the dual screen attachment.
I upgraded to this device from a rooted lg v30+ on the Sprint network. Before I swapped over I was running a Verizon Pie variant so I've got a pretty good handle on differences between the V30 running Oreo, and the V30 running Pie, so will be happy to touch on OS and UI differences between the models as well.
Anyway, please reply with any questions or features etc that you'd like more info about and I'll be sure to cover in my review and will post a link here once it's up. I will also try and repiy to any questions or comments below with the answer so you don't have to wait to read/watch the whole review.

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Also, since the whole G8x forum is still in it's infancy, I will be going through all of the sections to try and see if there are unanswered questions or things I can expand upon as well.

https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/xiaom...2-9-release/launcher3-9-android-apk-download/
This supports SECONDARY_HOME launcher

harysviewty said:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/xiaom...2-9-release/launcher3-9-android-apk-download/
This supports SECONDARY_HOME launcher
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Thanks but it crashes to me.

sev7en said:
Thanks but it crashes to me.
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Latest Microsoft launcher 6 beta also supports secondary home. It's on playstore

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Latest Microsoft launcher 6 beta also supports secondary home. It's on playstore
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I tried that as well and no. Which one is the setting you apply to use it also for the 2nd screen? It doesn't work for me.

How is the in-screen fingerprint reader? Any good? Fast/slow?

What does the "Touch Feedback and System" adjustment bar do, in the volume adjustment menu?
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MasterThiefGarrett said:
How is the in-screen fingerprint reader? Any good? Fast/slow?
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I would say its decent enough. Has a harder time reading dirty/pruned thumbprint compared to my old HTC 10. Im not too picky about it myself, but it does get picked on for having a slow, and inaccurate reader.

Bump, How do we get Microsoft launcher (Early Access) to get on second screen. Can someone who has successfully done this provide specific instructions?

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Latest Microsoft launcher 6 beta also supports secondary home. It's on playstore
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How do we enable this secondary_home you speak of?

I'm really on the fence about upgrading from my v30. It's still a great rooted phone and there is really no legitimate reason to "upgrade", so that will be interesting to see in your review: why...And any buyer's remorse? The fingerprint thing above really scares me because I think the clicky back one is the best way to do it. Any sound improvements, what is your gear? Any glitches or harbingers of doom? There seem to be marginal but acceptable case choices which is holding me back as I don't want to use dual screen case daily as the phone, let alone the combo package, is unpocketable in my imagination. Part of me says wait for the V60 which if it also can run three years, will maybe have acceptable performance in the 5g radio space which uptake of it will occur in that window. Battery life without second screen is also a question mark, especially compared to the V30. So I guess my request is to make the theme, of it vs V30. The V30 is well nigh perfect to me. Oh, and I have a huge niggle with having to click "turn on/off" on a (superfluous) toast notification AFTER I've toggled data on or off. Does this new phone ui require this excess step? I toggle my radios multiple times a day to block tracking, protect my nuts from radiation, and save batteries.

Has anyone used the Shadow gaming app on this phone? What i am hoping is that the app will open on the second screen and it the virtual game controller of the phone will work with the Shadow app, so that you can play Windows games through the phone and the controller will be able to play the games.

downwiththebanksters said:
I'm really on the fence about upgrading from my v30. It's still a great rooted phone and there is really no legitimate reason to "upgrade", so that will be interesting to see in your review: why...And any buyer's remorse? The fingerprint thing above really scares me because I think the clicky back one is the best way to do it. Any sound improvements, what is your gear? Any glitches or harbingers of doom? There seem to be marginal but acceptable case choices which is holding me back as I don't want to use dual screen case daily as the phone, let alone the combo package, is unpocketable in my imagination. Part of me says wait for the V60 which if it also can run three years, will maybe have acceptable performance in the 5g radio space which uptake of it will occur in that window. Battery life without second screen is also a question mark, especially compared to the V30. So I guess my request is to make the theme, of it vs V30. The V30 is well nigh perfect to me. Oh, and I have a huge niggle with having to click "turn on/off" on a (superfluous) toast notification AFTER I've toggled data on or off. Does this new phone ui require this excess step? I toggle my radios multiple times a day to block tracking, protect my nuts from radiation, and save batteries.
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The battery without the second screen is awesome, better than any phone I had, except for the ROG Phone 2, but that packs a 6000mAh battery so that's to be expected.
Take a look here, middle of the page is where the bettery tests are: https://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g8x_thinq-review-2017p4.php
I used my G8x without the second screen and got 85% left after a working day, of course it's not with 3 hours of SoT but still more than all the phones I had before... I ordered one from eBay for $269 and for that price they come without the accessory (2nd screen)
Battery life, in short, will destroy your V30, which wasn't bad in itself either. Can't say I mind the "only" 1080p screen instead of 1440p.

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Should I buy G5? Opinions please :)

Hello guys. I am reading all over the forums about this phone so I've got a few questions...
1. Should I buy it? I enjoy the custom skin the LG has and I'm coming from G FLex 2 (which is dead now btw).
2. When it comes to rooting.. I read that there is root for H850 variant, but how about H860N?
3. Share your experience please .
Thank you guys. Love.
H850 user here. I recently bought this phone and all i can tell is that is awesome. It's 200€ cheaper than most of the competitor flagships so imo is value for money. It's super fast, great photographs and if the development would be close to D855(G3) that i used to own i will be very pleased. Do not trust the guys in reviews saying that it has design and construction flaws. I found it to be very solid, the "chin" fits perfectly without gaps (at least to my device) and i like the G5 design, feels premium and not so fragile like S7 for example. It is a great device overall and i don't think u will regret if u buy it. Also if you decide to keep it stock you will always have superfast hotfixes and the future Android versions for about 2 years. Imagine that when i first connected my device to the internet it took me about an hour of updates and is only a 6 mo device. I am not an LG fanboy, above is just my experience since i am an H850 owner.
jimmmysil said:
H850 user here. I recently bought this phone and all i can tell is that is awesome. It's 200€ cheaper than most of the competitor flagships so imo is value for money. It's super fast, great photographs and if the development would be close to D855(G3) that i used to own i will be very pleased. Do not trust the guys in reviews saying that it has design and construction flaws. I found it to be very solid, the "chin" fits perfectly without gaps (at least to my device) and i like the G5 design, feels premium and not so fragile like S7 for example. It is a great device overall and i don't think u will regret if u buy it. Also if you decide to keep it stock you will always have superfast hotfixes and the future Android versions for about 2 years. Imagine that when i first connected my device to the internet it took me about an hour of updates and is only a 6 mo device. I am not an LG fanboy, above is just my experience since i am an H850 owner.
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Sorry to interrupt the OP, how is your experience about outdoor visibility? Is the screen bright enough? Does the phone overheat when used under direct sunlight with brightness set to high levels? Does the "daylight mode" (which is supposed to kick in and drammatically increase brightness beyond default limits under bright sunlight) work reliably for you? I've seen many people complaining about this feature turning on and back off intermittently.
jimmmysil said:
H850 user here. I recently bought this phone and all i can tell is that is awesome. It's 200€ cheaper than most of the competitor flagships so imo is value for money. It's super fast, great photographs and if the development would be close to D855(G3) that i used to own i will be very pleased. Do not trust the guys in reviews saying that it has design and construction flaws. I found it to be very solid, the "chin" fits perfectly without gaps (at least to my device) and i like the G5 design, feels premium and not so fragile like S7 for example. It is a great device overall and i don't think u will regret if u buy it. Also if you decide to keep it stock you will always have superfast hotfixes and the future Android versions for about 2 years. Imagine that when i first connected my device to the internet it took me about an hour of updates and is only a 6 mo device. I am not an LG fanboy, above is just my experience since i am an H850 owner.
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Thank you! I was reading a lot of reviews and well... I like what LG is doing.
I do really hope that the construction is solid , like on the pictures, and I saw what the phone can do, so basically I think I'll have it.
The only question now is what variant...
Anyone with H860N variant? Thx.
And @Mstniy , no problem .
Mstniy said:
Sorry to interrupt the OP, how is your experience about outdoor visibility? Is the screen bright enough? Does the phone overheat when used under direct sunlight with brightness set to high levels? Does the "daylight mode" (which is supposed to kick in and drammatically increase brightness beyond default limits under bright sunlight) work reliably for you? I've seen many people complaining about this feature turning on and back off intermittently.
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I have no drouble at all with outdoor visibility. The screen brightness kick works great. Sometimes also works with "always on" but most of the times is hard to see Always on under direct sunlight. As for the overheating i have no issues at all no overheating or at least i haven't noticed such an issue.
Hi. I should think twice before buying this phone.
I had my G5 in 3 months before sending it in for warrenty issues.
Got it back with nothing done because moist on motherboard coming from low, ie from the switching area. I didnt had the phone in rain at all.
Not pleased with LG handling!
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When buying an LG G5 you get :
- A removable battery (I bought a secondary battery).
- An IR Blaster (Awesome!).
- A super smartphone that can take awesome shots !
- A premium design.
- A smartphone with convenient screen.
- Quick Charge 3.0 (I bought a QC 3.0 charger) .
- Well, it runs everything flawlessly, very fast !
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drmilosh said:
Thank you! I was reading a lot of reviews and well... I like what LG is doing.
I do really hope that the construction is solid , like on the pictures, and I saw what the phone can do, so basically I think I'll have it.
The only question now is what variant...
Anyone with H860N variant? Thx.
And @Mstniy , no problem .
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DO NOT BUT THE H860 VARIANT ! I don't know why it's stucked on the April security patch, we can't root it (bootloader locked), and I did not achieve to install a newer KDZ using LGUP. I sold mine and bought a H850 variant !
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DO NOT BUT THE H860 VARIANT ! I don't know why it's stucked on the April security patch, we can't root it (bootloader locked), and I did not achieve to install a newer KDZ using LGUP. I sold mine and bought a H850 variant !
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Interesting... Alright, thank you for your feedback .
I was very nervous accepting a G5 as a replacement from Sprint for my G4, of which I had 3 with bootloop issues. So far, it's run just fine. I agree with aladin6 with all the positives.
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PC Mag Review-> Current users, what's your take in comparison to theirs?

PC Mag has a review of the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe here.
Those of you with the phone, what are your thoughts? This one review turns me off the phone.
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PC Mag has a review of the Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe here.
Those of you with the phone, what are your thoughts? This one review turns me off the phone.
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PC Mag did indeed seem to test the Deluxe 5.7"/6/64 version; as for the "bloat":
1: this is a very subjective topic; most reviews are on the contrary, applauding ASUS for slimming ZenUI down, but I don't have the phone yet so can't say for myself. Some might like it, for others it might be too much. Again - the keyword is "subjective".
2: there are a lot of hands on reviews on youtube - do your research; don't base your opinion on just 1 review.
3: Hoping ASUS will release the bootloader unlock tool, custom roms should come quite fast, thus bloatware will no longer be an issue
I certainly don't intend to make a decision on one review.
Regarding YouTube 'reviews', I have found that most spend so much time just flicking the screen back and fourth and up and down...and don't very often offer much. I will likely take a look, but expect better info here in the forums.
I wonder if the reviewer used a note 7 or not because it does the same regarding warnings of: RAM, app closures, battery life, Samsung + and rebooting after being on for 7 days w/o a reboot.
He did. He rated the note 7 as the best smartphone he had ever used.
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I did go check out YouTube reviews. After 4 that only talks about what features and specs it has, I decided that yes, YouTube reviews aren't much value.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYqIl3UxkY
Nice review if you don't mind the robot voice.
I'm just curious about the camera, on paper it should be good but how often have we seen that translate into crap in real life.
And of course dropping $1300 on a device with a BL that can't be unlocked is against my religion lol..need to see if Asus will be willing to allow an unlock.
And all of this sucks as I returned my note 7 and am now using a 2 year old note 4 so I need a new device ASAP.
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RMXO said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiYqIl3UxkY
Nice review if you don't mind the robot voice.
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Thanks for linking that. It was a pretty good review.
force70 said:
I'm just curious about the camera, on paper it should be good but how often have we seen that translate into crap in real life.
And of course dropping $1300 on a device with a BL that can't be unlocked is against my religion lol..need to see if Asus will be willing to allow an unlock.
And all of this sucks as I returned my note 7 and am now using a 2 year old note 4 so I need a new device ASAP.
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Well, it has the same lens and sensor as the Sony Xperia X, and dxomark rated it an 88. That ties it as the highest ranked camera on a smartphone until the pixel is finally on the street, at a whopping 89.
https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony-Xperia-X-Performance-Mobile-review-Impressive-results
https://www.google.com/amp/s/recombu.com/mobile/article/sony-xperia-x-camera-review/amp
Granted, there is a lot more to how well the camera takes pictures than just the hardware. But, given that the hardware has proven to be top of the line, it means this phone should take amazing images.
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I can't say about the 64gb/4gbversion as I got the 256gb/6gb version but as with the Zenfone 2, you can uninstall most of the Asus apps. It's pretty quick and does everything I want.
Battery lasts a good day, tested it with video watching for about 6 hours and that off an OTG device with about 28% left.
Not really a photographer but the pictures are fine. Very good in bright light but fall down a bit in low light, as with most phones.
Call quality is fine, no problem with others hearing me or me them.
As I say, there may indeed be a difference between models but the one I have is great...
Like it a lot and would recommend.
Now that I have my phone, it is obvious that PC Mag review was very biased. This phone is 4.5/5 stars easy.
As i said the before on another thread, this phone is amazing , i got the 64g/6 version, i was going after the 256 one, but sadly it was sold out when i got there, it's no problem though , the version i have is more then enough and with the SD card included makes it more better. i do love the camera quality on this, including the 1920x1080 at 60 FPS, there is also 4k video as well.
And My Carrier signal is strong as well. Just hope now to get some custom roms into this phone when ASUS releases the sources, looking at the zenhone 2, seems they got a lot of it, so i hope the same here. There is things i can't control on here, like the LED notifications (none of the apps don't work from google play) and for some odd reason when you get a text message or e-mail, nothing lights the screen up, though i do get the sound or vibration from it, i had to get an APP for that and it works nicley with that.
Another review that is not particularly overly positive. Especially related to pictures in low light; and battery not all that great.
And one here from Toms Guide with pretty much the samenegative results. But this one goes into a lot more detail and covers a lot of the good in the phone.
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Another review that is not particularly overly positive. Especially related to pictures in low light; and battery not all that great.
And one here from Toms Guide with pretty much the samenegative results. But this one goes into a lot more detail and covers a lot of the good in the phone.
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Tomsguide review is the closest to explaining the phone in general terms along with it's shortcomings. I don't think it necessarily negative either. I've read and viewed quite a few reviews but my own experience after almost 2 weeks is that its a really good phone with the issues listed in the tomsguide review. For me battery life has been pretty good after bloat removal. Can't wait for root.
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Another review that is not particularly overly positive. Especially related to pictures in low light; and battery not all that great.
And one here from Toms Guide with pretty much the samenegative results. But this one goes into a lot more detail and covers a lot of the good in the phone.
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All these reviews are old and done before Asus released its Camera updates. For instance, the shutter Is super fast for me and photos look great, but I started out on updated phones. Asus has a another camera update getting ready to get pushed to my Special Edition. It is already available on their site so it should be getting pushed via OTA any day now. Don't judge the camera based on any review done before the US Release date, they are inaccurate. I need to go to the store and do a camera comparison with the other phones.
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Quoted from one of those reviews "The Bad:?*Poor camera performance for its price, fingerprint reader could not read one of my fingers for some reason, 1080p not ideal on such a large display, Zen UI needs refinements".
First off, the updates must've fixed a whole lot as I don't understand the poor camera reviews and I am sure other current owners would agree.
Fingerprint reader works perfect for me, so it was probably 'I.D.10-T' on the part of the reviewer.
This is my first experience with ZenUI and it is amazing in every aspect. Just a pleasure to use. I instantly installed a few updates for that too though so maybe that is the difference in our experiences.
Lastly, anyone who says you need more than a 1080p screen on a 5.7" phone is an utter moron falling for gimmicks. I have perfect eyesight and I cannot see a single pixel on this screen, no matter how close I look, and this display looks amazing. Anything with a higher resolution would only serve to drain the battery faster. The only possible benefit of higher resolution on this phone would be for VR. If VR is a non-factor for you, then ignore anyone who says you need a better resolution. Now I haven't tried out VR at all yet as I am just waiting to see whether the HTC Vive or Oculus Rift wins, so I don't actually know if you need more than 1080p. Higher resolution always means greater constraints on performance though so 1080p may even be better for VR on phones right now. Like I said though, I will defer to experienced VR users on that. Outside of VR, I assure you, higher than a 1080 resolution on a 5.7" phone will only serve to drain your battery faster.
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All these reviews are old and done before Asus released its Camera updates. For instance, the shutter Is super fast for me and photos look great, but I started out on updated phones. Asus has a another camera update getting ready to get pushed to my Special Edition. It is already available on their site so it should be getting pushed via OTA any day now. Don't judge the camera based on any review done before the US Release date, they are inaccurate. I need to go to the store and do a camera comparison with the other phones.
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Quoted from one of those reviews "The Bad:?*Poor camera performance for its price, fingerprint reader could not read one of my fingers for some reason, 1080p not ideal on such a large display, Zen UI needs refinements".
First off, the updates must've fixed a whole lot as I don't understand the poor camera reviews and I am sure other current owners would agree.
Fingerprint reader works perfect for me, so it was probably 'I.D.10-T' on the part of the reviewer.
This is my first experience with ZenUI and it is amazing in every aspect. Just a pleasure to use. I instantly installed a few updates for that too though so maybe that is the difference in our experiences.
Lastly, anyone who says you need more than a 1080p screen on a 5.7" phone is an utter moron falling for gimmicks. I have perfect eyesight and I cannot see a single pixel on this screen, no matter how close I look, and this display looks amazing. Anything with a higher resolution would only serve to drain the battery faster. The only possible benefit of higher resolution on this phone would be for VR. If VR is a non-factor for you, then ignore anyone who says you need a better resolution. Now I haven't tried out VR at all yet as I am just waiting to see whether the HTC Vive or Oculus Rift wins, so I don't actually know if you need more than 1080p. Higher resolution always means greater constraints on performance though so 1080p may even be better for VR on phones right now. Like I said though, I will defer to experienced VR users on that. Outside of VR, I assure you, higher than a 1080 resolution on a 5.7" phone will only serve to drain your battery faster.
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I agree with that alot, those reviews seems before the update and the phone is amazing as well the camera ability, and what i said before with the 60 FPS recording makes it all more better. I wish i was able to get the speical edition in time , but i missed it sadly. No worries , i'm still happy with the 64/6 with my 128 GB SD Card, though that will be increase in the coming future hehe.
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I agree with that alot, those reviews seems before the update and the phone is amazing as well the camera ability, and what i said before with the 60 FPS recording makes it all more better. I wish i was able to get the speical edition in time , but i missed it sadly. No worries , i'm still happy with the 64/6 with my 128 GB SD Card, though that will be increase in the coming future hehe.
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That one chipchick review was definitely dumb. Couldn't read one of my fingers? really? laughable... I have seen reviews of another phone (LG V20) where reviewers and users sh*t-talked it's fingerprint reader, realizing only later that they forgot to take the new protective plastic cover off of the button...
Don't get me started about the 1080p screen complainers... The Super AMOLED screen is one this year's best. What's worse about these reviewers is that phone makers listened to them when they complained last year about preferring 1080p over QHD because they struggled to find a big viewing difference and battery life was better on 1080p. phoneArena's first paragraph mentions that here. At this point it's more about Lazy reviewers and bragging rights than the actual facts.
I do seem to notice the shutter lag and low-light focus hunt on my phone's camera more than other people it seems, and I have the latest updates. Judging by others on here maybe it's just my phone, or I'm taking more low light pics. Quality is otherwise great in normal daytime usage.
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I agree with that alot, those reviews seems before the update and the phone is amazing as well the camera ability, and what i said before with the 60 FPS recording makes it all more better. I wish i was able to get the speical edition in time , but i missed it sadly. No worries , i'm still happy with the 64/6 with my 128 GB SD Card, though that will be increase in the coming future hehe.
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Have you tried a 256GB card? The US Asus site says 128GB SD card limit and the global site says a 2TB max SD card size. So the question which is correct or did the US version just get gypped?
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Have you tried a 256GB card? The US Asus site says 128GB SD card limit and the global site says a 2TB max SD card size. So the question which is correct or did the US version just get gypped?
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Okay so upon investigation, it looks so far as the Taiwanese version (Asus' home country) was the one to get 2TB. US and India are both 128GB on their sites. I'm going to check a few more countries.
Edit: Japan got 2TB too, then again, they don't even have the 64GB SD820 version at all.
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The Simple said:
That one chipchick review was definitely dumb. Couldn't read one of my fingers? really? laughable... I have seen reviews of another phone (LG V20) where reviewers and users sh*t-talked it's fingerprint reader, realizing only later that they forgot to take the new protective plastic cover off of the button...
Don't get me started about the 1080p screen complainers... The Super AMOLED screen is one this year's best. What's worse about these reviewers is that phone makers listened to them when they complained last year about preferring 1080p over QHD because they struggled to find a big viewing difference and battery life was better on 1080p. phoneArena's first paragraph mentions that here. At this point it's more about Lazy reviewers and bragging rights than the actual facts.
I do seem to notice the shutter lag and low-light focus hunt on my phone's camera more than other people it seems, and I have the latest updates. Judging by others on here maybe it's just my phone, or I'm taking more low light pics. Quality is otherwise great in normal daytime usage.
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When I click the shutter, my screen flashes a tenth of a second later. I never expected instantaneous on a phone though...I upgraded from a note 2 though and don't care about pictures that much. Is it supposed to be instantaneous? Asus just released another update to improve the camera further on their site and it should be getting pushed to our phones soon. Well it has been released for the SD821, but that means the SD820 should get posted soon, if not already. The OTA hasn't been pushed to my phone yet but I read somewhere that it could take a week to push the OTA after they release it.
I would like better pics in low light but I feel that is strictly software and should get better with updates. We will see.
Edit: actually I just went to the camera and it is actually instant when I hold the phone steady.

This or OnePlus 5 ?

I am ready for a new phone... The title about sums it up...
In Holland the preorder XZ1 comes with a BT headphone... I am temped to go for it, but I am not sure if 4 GB of RAM will be sufficient. Thoughts anyone?
bossie1975 said:
I am ready for a new phone... The title about sums it up...
In Holland the preorder XZ1 comes with a BT headphone... I am temped to go for it, but I am not sure if 4 GB of RAM will be sufficient. Thoughts anyone?
btw don't let the signature fool you.... I have a OnePlus 3 T. The X style died on me a while ago...
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I have a sony z3 and I think that 4gb are enough for nearly every use.
My phone is still fast even with and old cpu and 3gb of ram. I'm changing it for the headphone and because I have 16gb of internal memory
The OnePlus 5 felt like a big disappointment for me. I was using a OnePlus 3T and decided to do the upgrade to the 5 because I had someone buy my 3T for a pretty good price. The disappointment with the OP5 started with the fact that the camera was a MAJOR let down. They hyped it so much, but in fact performed no better than the OP3. The 2nd let down is the lack of water resistance. I got OP5 right when I went on a family vacation and it bothered me that my wife was able to take her iPhone 7 to the water and I couldn't. The last reason for my decision to return it was OPs stance on OS upgrades. Seems more iffy than Samsung's. As for the memory, I had the 8GB model and yes, it's great to have because apps stay open, but it doesn't affect how quick the UI is (in comparison to the XZ1).
Anyway, I ended up with an unlocked Samsung S8+ but I returned it as well because the long screen and weird aspect ration makes using the phone really hard. Also, the phones stuttered a lot (thanks to Sammy's bloatware) and the Bixby physical button will drive you CRAZY. Bixby is crap (compared to Google Assistant) but you can't avoid clicking on the damn button because it's so close to the volume down button. Last but not least, the fingerprint reader is in the most inconvenient location.
Hope this helps.
spielnicht said:
The OnePlus 5 felt like a big disappointment for me. I was using a OnePlus 3T and decided to do the upgrade to the 5 because I had someone buy my 3T for a pretty good price. The disappointment with the OP5 started with the fact that the camera was a MAJOR let down. They hyped it so much, but in fact performed no better than the OP3. The 2nd let down is the lack of water resistance. I got OP5 right when I went on a family vacation and it bothered me that my wife was able to take her iPhone 7 to the water and I couldn't. The last reason for my decision to return it was OPs stance on OS upgrades. Seems more iffy than Samsung's. As for the memory, I had the 8GB model and yes, it's great to have because apps stay open, but it doesn't affect how quick the UI is (in comparison to the XZ1).
Anyway, I ended up with an unlocked Samsung S8+ but I returned it as well because the long screen and weird aspect ration makes using the phone really hard. Also, the phones stuttered a lot (thanks to Sammy's bloatware) and the Bixby physical button will drive you CRAZY. Bixby is crap (compared to Google Assistant) but you can't avoid clicking on the damn button because it's so close to the volume down button. Last but not least, the fingerprint reader is in the most inconvenient location.
Hope this helps.
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Very usefull Thanx. So what are you using now?
I already made up my mind and will go for the XZ1. I really liked (and always liked) the Sony design and don't mind the bezels at all... plus in pre-order you get a BT headphone which was on my wish list for a while.. win-win imo
Sure thing.
I actually ended up getting the XZ1. I've alway been a fan of Sony's design and unique aspect. I also don't mind the bezels in the least bit, especially since I I didn't find the S8+ that user friendly, always felt like I was bending my thumb downward or stretching it up in an unnatural fashion.
Can't beat the free BT headhphones. Obviously don't have that option in the US, especially since I got an international version on eBay anyway.
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Very usefull Thanx. So what are you using now?
I already made up my mind and will go for the XZ1. I really liked (and always liked) the Sony design and don't mind the bezels at all... plus in pre-order you get a BT headphone which was on my wish list for a while.. win-win imo
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I'm thinking about getting the xz1 as well. I live in the US and use AT&T, but I noticed that the xz1 doesn't have band 30 for network. Do you guys know how much that will affect coverage? I don't really care for wifi calling and volte otherwise
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I am ready for a new phone... The title about sums it up...
In Holland the preorder XZ1 comes with a BT headphone... I am temped to go for it, but I am not sure if 4 GB of RAM will be sufficient. Thoughts anyone?
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Most phones except OP and Note have 4gb of ram. Even s8 which has a lot of stuff to run.
My opinion is that if Google phones of the year have 4gb then it is sufficient...
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I already made up my mind and will go for the XZ1. I really liked (and always liked) the Sony design and don't mind the bezels at all... plus in pre-order you get a BT headphone which was on my wish list for a while.. win-win imo
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Okay... so that went fast, phone looks great, but I have dicided to put it up for sale... I don't like the screen, have issues with wifi, and Bluetooth FC when I turn it off and also when I try to use the buttons of the connected headset (play, pause, volume) I sometimes does not respond. The overall feel is that Sony might have been better of to wait with presenting the phone with Oreo out of the box...
I have aimed my arrows for the OP5T. Meanwhile I am using the OP3T again... sorry Sony... I do like the headphone tough

Would you buy this phone again?

Now you've had the Mate 20 Pro for a while, taking into account the camera, battery and overall experience. Would you recommend this phone to friends and would you buy the phone again yourself?
At this point I haven't had any negative experience...I'm more frustrated with the decisions that Google made in Android Pie than anything related to the phone itself.
So yeah, I have recommended it to friends.
No. I really don't enjoy using EMUI.
I think it's an excellent phone but just the fact that I live in the USA where the M20P has no warranty or support makes it difficult to recommend. EMUI also will turn off certain people and the aggressive battery management is kind of a love it or hate it thing. I would buy this phone again but recommending it to a friend is another matter.
Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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I think it's an excellent phone but just the fact that I live in the USA where the M20P has no warranty or support makes it difficult to recommend. EMUI also will turn off certain people and the aggressive battery management is kind of a love it or hate it thing. I would buy this phone again but recommending it to a friend is another matter.
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Where did you buy yours from in the US?
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Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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I'm wondering if memory management is a phone issue or an android pie issue. I have seen others complaining about this with other phone brands.
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I'm exactly in this boat. After my 3rd defective device I opted for a refund.
Today I looked at the Google pixel 3xl and the 1+6T the oxygen os is great far nicer than EMUI. But for some reason I kept getting drawn back to the Mate 20 Pro. The camera and battery life are something else.
Man I'm torn.
i love my mate 20 pro it is a great phone. there seems to be a whole lot of negativity about it on here but i have had no problems even with the dreaded lg screen lol. yes i would buy it again.
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I'm exactly in this boat. After my 3rd defective device I opted for a refund.
Today I looked at the Google pixel 3xl and the 1+6T the oxygen os is great far nicer than EMUI. But for some reason I kept getting drawn back to the Mate 20 Pro. The camera and battery life are something else.
Man I'm torn.
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why not give it another try? my concern is how long huawei will support the device for. They have no official time frame for firmware and security updates. At least you have 3 years with a pixel.
Yeah looking forward on mate 30. Like the others that never had any single issue.. This phone is great in any aspect of everyday usage. Might buy another mate but let see how huawei would stand after the nonsense banning of their other services
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I bought mine off eBay. If I had to do it again I'd use wonda mobile. They'll actually check if it's a boe panel for you before they ship and they handle warranty. You'd have to ship to China but that's better than ZERO support from even the best eBay sellers. Huawei doesn't do international service so your sol here in the US.
Amazing phone.
I have had great experience! Nice battery life is the best perk no use in having the hardware to do things if the battery won't last! Also have a second one I bought for the wife and she's an iPhone user and didn't like it. If anyone is interested send me a personal message
I know for sure, I would buy it again, it has given me a great service
My only nitpick with this device is the gesture control, so I'm back to 3 button mode. The native Pie gestures work brilliantly, I don't get why Huawei broke it. That's not a deal breaker for me. It's the best phone I've ever used, better than the pixel or note. I'm unashamedly a huge fan of pure Google Android/ asop and use Nokia 7 plus as my second phone, but nothing comes close to my experience with the Mate 20 pro.
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Not decided yet... Memory management is far too aggressive. The rest of EMUI I can live with at the moment. It's very hard to ignore the amazing battery, screen and camera. I came from a note 8 and it was a close run thing between the mate and the note. Time will tell!
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You can change that in the battery settings for running apps. Just let the big apps run in the background like games and they won't close. It's all about choice.
All my apps stay open all the time unless i've bloced them.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
The note 9 is the same as the mate, except with less battery life, slower charging, worse camera, and same aggressive app management unless you tweak it yourself.
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why would you not buy Huawei again?
No.
Because of green tint, emui, how notifications are handled, and lack of customization options.
I've been on Samsungs since the S2, so this was quite a change for me, so at first I didn't like the general UI side of things (especially the AOD compared to Samsung's is pretty basic), but I have to say its grown on me.
Speed/fluidity etc on the hardware wide of things are excellent
Fingerprint detection can be random at best, but I'm amazed at the speed and reliability of the face recognition, especially when its dark
Also amazed at the battery life
Shame there's no SD slot. Would be much easier to just take all my music etc from my S7 if it had one. No problem as internal storage isn't an issue, but I'd have preferred an SD slot all the same.
Biggest gripe for me is the notch, or should I say the lack of statusbar icon space.... If you set to "hide" the notch, I would rather there be an option to drop the icons down a line so that a full row of statusbar icons can be seen (I'd rather lose 4-5mm of the screen and gain a full statusbar)
Notch aside, yes, I would definitely recommend, but now I've finally made the plunge and broken away from Samsung after all these years, I think I'd probably go for whatever the current OnePlus offering is in 2 years time to see what thats like!
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You can change that in the battery settings for running apps. Just let the big apps run in the background like games and they won't close. It's all about choice.
All my apps stay open all the time unless i've bloced them.
I wouldn't buy Huawei again, but I would recommend it.
The note 9 is the same as the mate, except with less battery life, slower charging, worse camera, and same aggressive app management unless you tweak it yourself.
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I've already changed those settings and they've made little difference. Perhaps I need to wipe it and start again (but to be fair, all I've really done is install nova and some Google apps).

General I'm mad at OnePlus right now

I know nobody from OnePlus gives a damn anymore and I'm just here ranting to no one. But I just need to express my anger somewhere.
I'm a proud owner of the OnePlus One, part of the first bunch of invites, served me for 4 years and still works to this day, the battery is just a bit dead. Then I bought he 5T which is in my opinion one of the best phones ever made for my purposes. I don't do photos, I'm an IT admin that just needs a pocket PC that has plenty of utilities available and the 5T had everything i need.
After 5 years of service the 5T even though it is still working, just dies on me at 25% probably because of the 3rd party battery and also has general slowness and gets stuck sometimes but overall it has a metal body, headphone jack, read ceramic fingerprint and ACTUAL OxygenOS 10.0.1
I literally just opened the box of the 10T and I find myself with a brick of plastic that apparently from what I've seen in the videos it doesn't even withstand water (which the 5T does veeeery well even if not officially rated) that doesn't have an headphone jack.
Started messing with it and i found myself in a situation that made me start thinking if i should send it back or not. Here's a brief list:
I cannot unlock the phone unless i first double tap and then the fingerprint sensor is available while with the 5T i can literally touch the rear ceramic sensor and it instantly unlocks while turned off, which increases significantly the unlock time and pisses me off even further.
The bottom navigation buttons are not customizable like they where with 10.0.1, I set the square button to lock the phone with a long press, now i cannot do it since it instead opens split screen app that I NEVER use.
The Oneplus shelf is now available from a top scroll down on the status bar ( WHAT THE F***??????) and instead of the shelf now we have F****** Google Discovery page that you cannot even disable if you want to and from what I've seen some people handled to hide with an app made for Oppo's ColorOS.
The pattern lock on the lockscreen is way too high, i understand the sensor is at the bottom but there are literally 5cm available where only the emergency contact button is (not even at the middle of the gap which triggers my OCD) I have big hands but still have to reach the top and it's hella annoying.
For some reason it is now illegal to have circle app icons since you cannot choose that shape, but there is some weird ass other shape, go figure
Settings app got completely butchered, i can't find anything and, for instance i still didn't find the parallel apps and pocket mode and why the hell are the icons and fonts so big in there, what is the purpose??
Why are all Google Apps picking up the wallpaper color and changing their theme, it looks like garbage, I just want it black i tried every way and unticked the option but still doesnt work they are all pink-reddish It's disgusting, why am i not allowed to set it black??
Where is the advanced power menu option??? I want to be able to select the boot to recovery and boot to bootloader option not just the lame poweroff and reboot
If you go to the task manager, you press "close all" the phone decides which apps to close to "have optimal performance". ***** i clicked close all to actually close all, if i wanted you to decide what to close I'd have clicked that... This is pure idiotism. It even trolls you because you click it and closes everything except the current opened app and reopens that one....
Where are the ROMs ??? The list of devices on the site stops at the 9 pro https://www.oneplus.com/support/softwareupgrade and then there is the Nord series. I want the Official ROM zip.
What's funny is that my best friend bought one too and when it arrived 2 days ago he found that the power brick had the type C connector broken inside.
Now I'm sitting here thinking if i should pack it and send it back.
This is disappointing af. I need good specs and easy root with stock android, am I asking too much here ?
Both Android OS (since Pie) and phones (Samsung at least) have taken a dive from 2019.
I'm still running stock Note 10+'s one on 9 the other 10. I see nothing new I like. I absolutely demand expandable storage and good SOT. I'm set for another 2-3+ years.
Meh, give it das boot and find something that fulfills its mission for you.
Lots of older models including some that are new, unused. My last N10+ I bought was one of those. Unlike a used phone the factory sealed ones will be loaded with the OS version at time of manufacture. If you hate 11 and especially 12 as much as me, it's a no brainer. My N10+'s will likely never be upgraded... they run very well as is. Anything from Pie up is reasonably secure unless you do something stupid.
We feel your OnePlus pain since they and most OEM's have been trending downward! Not a good sign of things to come....
Return would be one of your options....
Cheers
The advanced boot menu and the original version bootloader of oneplus 5 is the best for advanced user.
My oneplus 5 is still working (battery is replaced once) but the price of oneplus 10t is very attractive.
LuisCarlosHK said:
The advanced boot menu and the original version bootloader of oneplus 5 is the best for advanced user.
My oneplus 5 is still working (battery is replaced once) but the price of oneplus 10t is very attractive.
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That's ColorOS for you. If you really want pure OOS (11 and below), get a 9 pro/8 Pro/8T
I feel your pain. This ColorOS/Oxygen rom totally sucks. But I'm going to keep mine because there is no such specification on the market for this price (Snapdragon 8+ Gen, 16GB RAM, 256GB storage for $650). I hope someone will create custom roms (KOSP, YAAP) in the future.
Bought and used the 10 Pro for about 2 months and sold it.
Bought the Nothing Phone 1 and used it for 1 month....will probably pack it and sell it off soon
Been using the 10T for 3 days......can't comment yet
But overall i'll keep my 9 Pro and as soon as i get pissed with the 10T, i'll just move my sim back to the 9 Pro and i'm good to go.
Suggest you look at the 9 Pro as it's considered a year old device and it's way cheaper compared to when it first launched. Also there are loads of custom ROM for the 9 Pro now.
So i saw several reviewers mention OP10T 's performance is worse compared to other sd 8+ gen 1 phones like IQOO9T etc. Some speculate it's due to OnePlus locking cpu frequencies. Any OP10T owner that runs benchmarks, plays heavy games can comment on this?
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So i saw several reviewers mention OP10T 's performance is worse compared to other sd 8+ gen 1 phones like IQOO9T etc. Some speculate it's due to OnePlus locking cpu frequencies. Any OP10T owner that runs benchmarks, plays heavy games can comment on this?
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It's well-known by this point that OnePlus throttles the SoC since the 888. If you want full performance, you have to toggle performance mode in battery settings. Keep in mind that doing so will have a massive battery penalty as it stops the little cores from down clocking.
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It's well-known by this point that OnePlus throttles the SoC since the 888. If you want full performance, you have to toggle performance mode in battery settings. Keep in mind that doing so will have a massive battery penalty as it stops the little cores from down clocking.
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Ah gotcha i haven't used a one plus device in 6 years, my 10T will arrive in two days. I'm fine with the battery penalty since if i am gaming i usually have a charger around and that ridiculous charging speed makes up for it. I also have a pelteir cooler if performance mode makes it heat up. Looks like a good custom kernel would go a long for this device.
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I know nobody from OnePlus gives a damn anymore and I'm just here ranting to no one. But I just need to express my anger somewhere.
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This is disappointing af. I need good specs and easy root with stock android, am I asking too much here ?
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You have summed this up for me so well. You are not alone. I still consider the 5T to be the best overall phone OnePlus has ever created. At the time, it beat all the flagships for 50% of their price. Easy root and dev friendly. Bulletproof too. Mine still works but my son lost it. It was HEAVY daily use for 5+ years until then.
I moved on to the OP7TP5GMcLaren (after trying the 8 pro and sending it back). It was slightly annoying for bootloader because I had to submit to oneplus to get the unlock code (before they found the bypass) but still worked. No custom roms but it was actually a decent experience and still handles games and dev tasks quite well.
Now I'm holding my 10T and I'm not sure if I should wait or send it back and wait. This fake oxygenOS ain't it. IF I return this phone, I will pick up the Redmi k50 (gaming or ultra) to hold me over. They have good specs at similar pricing but I will take a hit on band coverage. Which might be worth it at this point. I want to at least give this a week but so far, nothing has blown me away. I do like how much it feels like the 5T in hand. But it does not feel as premium as the 7TP/8P. I like the flat screen. I'm trying to love the things I like to be patient.
I don't blame oneplus for all of it, Android in general is still pretty buggy for being on version 12 - but I'm not heading to iOS so I'm here.
I might unlock bootloader, root and just skip otas forever. Breaking Netflix/drm is not ideal.
I will pitch in on OP10T crowdfunding for devs to get their hands on phones to work with
There is a "fast unlock". Seems to work well. Sleep->unlock by fingerprint on the scanner
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There is a "fast unlock". Seems to work well. Sleep->unlock by fingerprint on the scanner
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I tried that but it doesn't help much.
I still didn't return it but I'm about to throw it on the wall every time I tap "close all" in the task manager since it doesn't actually kill all apps but decides by itself that the current app I'm using has to be still opened.
Plus i can't live without notification LED and didn't find a single app that emulates it decently. Only one that does something is "Always on edge" but works randomly and more half the times doesn't work at all
They don't care at lie at any moment.
As someone with a 8T im scared. I don't know what to do anymore, my 8T is fine for now but then what? I don't see any MSM tools for the 10 Pro or the 10T. Go with a pixel? I'm actually just considering a iPhone for the first time since the 3GS. Been with android for over 10 years, i'm tired.
I appreciate the candor of OP @seanwlk , and can agree that the industry has become very hostile to the types of people like us who frequent XDA and mod our phones. I also place at the top of my list the requirement to have an easy unlocked bootloader to root.
That being said, I can't help but sense a little over the top reactions from everyone in the forums as well as YouTubers complaining about OnePlus. Full disclosure I have been using OnePlus since the 3T, but I am not a 1+ employee or shill, and I too was frustrated initially and tried out the Pixel 6 before returning it and coming back to 1+. The alternative besides 1+ and Pixel is the Sony Xperia. But the Xperia is way overpriced and overheats, plus is a hassle to root. But it is a great looking phone, and has expandable storage and a headphone jack.
Reasons I returned to OnePlus and rejected Pixel (caveat: both being equal in terms of bootloader unlock and rooting support)
Gestures. Screen off media controls, flashlight, three finger screenshot, ect....have tried Motorola, Essential, HTC, Sony.....OnePlus does it the best IMO. Didn't realize how much I used these and would miss them
Only Android to have an alert slider (and yes I know the 10T doesn't, but they recently revealed they don't plan on keeping it permanently removed. Dumb move IMO to remove it at all, but at least they will be bring it back). This is a big reason I went with the 10 Pro
Hands down, the best fast charging, both wired and wireless. Didn't realize how much it
Other small tweaks, like the native ability to hide status bar icons, the OnePlus font, layout of settings.
Also, I personally don't understand the hate for the influences of ColorOS. I find the larger UI is easy to press and navigate, especially from the notification shade when out and about in sunlight. I don't mind the "new" OOS. But again, to each their own.
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I literally just opened the box of the 10T and I find myself with a brick of plastic that apparently from what I've seen in the videos it doesn't even withstand water
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That's why I went with a 10 Pro: Metal and IP68, plus it has the alert slider which the 10T doesn't.
that doesn't have an headphone jack.
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Most phone companies started doing this 5 years ago after Apple started the insanity, not a OnePlus unique complaint
I cannot unlock the phone unless i first double tap and then the fingerprint sensor is available while with the 5T i can literally touch the rear ceramic sensor and it instantly unlocks while turned off, which increases significantly the unlock time and pisses me off even further.
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Super easy fix I used awhile back --> Oxygen AOD Mod
The bottom navigation buttons are not customizable like they where with 10.0.1, I set the square button to lock the phone with a long press, now i cannot do it since it instead opens split screen app that I NEVER use.
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Hmm I didn't realize people still preferred buttons instead of gestures (which I prefer). To each their own
The Oneplus shelf is now available from a top scroll down on the status bar ( WHAT THE F***??????)
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Totally can disable this in the settings....
and instead of the shelf now we have F****** Google Discovery page that you cannot even disable if you want to and from what I've seen some people handled to hide with an app made for Oppo's ColorOS.
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I am sure someone has a Magisk module that disables this. Also, why not just use the GOAT launcher Nova?
For some reason it is now illegal to have circle app icons since you cannot choose that shape, but there is some weird ass other shape, go figure
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Nova solves all of this.....lets you use Legacy icons and disable the "Reshape" BS that Android now does to icons.
[*]The pattern lock on the lockscreen is way too high, i understand the sensor is at the bottom but there are literally 5cm available where only the emergency contact button is (not even at the middle of the gap which triggers my OCD) I have big hands but still have to reach the top and it's hella annoying.
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Yes, the placement of fingerprint reader on the 1+9 I agree it's a little lower than I would have liked, but it's not that bad, right? I just decided to get used to it since I couldn't change it. Didn't ever really bother me. And now I use the 10 Pro which is placed higher
Why are all Google Apps picking up the wallpaper color and changing their theme, it looks like garbage, I just want it black i tried every way and unticked the option but still doesnt work they are all pink-reddish It's disgusting, why am i not allowed to set it black??
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I was under the impression this is a toggleable option to turn on/off
Where are the ROMs ??? The list of devices on the site stops at the 9 pro https://www.oneplus.com/support/softwareupgrade and then there is the Nord series. I want the Official ROM zip.
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Agree it is dumb they don't have the OTAs available. Hopefully they're just late to post? OxygenUpdater is my current workaround.
I need good specs
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The specs we have in flagships are so overpowered for most tasks IMO. Unless someone is a major mobile gamer.....but that is not me at all, nor most I suspect
easy root with stock android
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How "stock"? Because I used the Pixel 6 for a week and was seriously underwhelmed with the lack of features....especially not having screen off gestures and such.....stock Android is lacking IMO
Plus i can't live without notification LED and didn't find a single app that emulates it decently. Only one that does something is "Always on edge" but works randomly and more half the times doesn't work at all
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Another super easy fix if a notification dot is mandatory feature to you --> aodNotify
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I might unlock bootloader, root and just skip otas forever. Breaking Netflix/drm is not ideal.
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Netflix breaking due to bootloader unlock or root is extremely easy to remedy, a TON of forum posts with Zygisk and USNF....
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As someone with a 8T im scared. I don't know what to do anymore, my 8T is fine for now but then what? I don't see any MSM tools for the 10 Pro or the 10T. Go with a pixel? I'm actually just considering a iPhone for the first time since the 3GS. Been with android for over 10 years, i'm tired.
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Scared of what?
Not sure why you mention MSM tools and then immediately suggest Pixel, as it's Tensor chip is Exynos which means no MSM type tool since that is Qualcomm only
What makes you want to go to iPhone?
Also, the Exynos modem in the Pixel 6 was terrible with reception for both WiFi and cellular. Another big reason I returned it besides the ones I mentioned
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Netflix breaking due to bootloader unlock or root is extremely easy to remedy, a TON of forum posts with Zygisk and USNF....
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I tried that. I tried a modified usnf also. I didn't have any success but that really isn't the deal breaker for me anyway. It was lack of msm, fake OxygenOS (which could be remedied in time with real msm for devs), and the general navigation and features of this "OxygenOS". The charging was great. Nothing else stands out enough. Never Settle indeed.
I'm waiting for OnePlus to stop playing their "we emailed the return label" game. It appears to be something that happens to many people when they want to return a phone. The return label never arrives to email and some get harassed into keeping their phone after it misses the return window. I have a few more days left. Each day they say it will arrive within 24 hours

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