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its so cheats and ive always been an asus guy....
why? its only a 4.3 inch screen...
Anyway, there is always something better around the corner..
So lets say you return the note and get the Asus and a couple weeks after you get that they say the SGS3 will be out next month after that..
Its a never ending cycle.
Nice! But I'm not gonna fork over $1000 for the phone plus all the accessories. Phone=$650 off contract + $200-$300 for dock + $100-$200 for keyboard. No thanks, I'll just get the Note for $159 from at&t on 2 year contract instead.
1520 maH battery? Yikes.
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qHD...nice, but not Note nice. And yeah, that battery...not going to get it done, I think.
Plus you have to carry around a 10.1" tablet to get the hi-res tablet experience, which I thought was sort of the point of the Note. Unless maybe that tablet has the super high resolution like the upcoming version of the Prime (I didn't see it in the specs).
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1520 maH battery? Yikes.
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That's what made me cringe most. That's going to have some pretty terrible battery life.
That combined with the fact that the phone itself is 9.2 mm thick, means that the tablet will either be thick and chunky, or have a thick bulge for just the phone....either way is unappealing to me when you have the sexiness of the new galaxy tab arriving shortly.
In my opinion, if you're going to go for this combo, you might as well get a SGS2 and a galaxy tab. Unless you're super loyal to Asus. Interesting concept, I just think it will need a lot of refinement before it will be anywhere near a great selling phone.
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But it has a small battery, only HSPA+, and is a whole inch smaller than the note.
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I really like the idea of the Padphone and if you have the keyboard you don't really need a huge battery because the keyboard will recharge the phone's battery just like it does on the Transformer.
The biggest gripe I have with it right now is the stylus. It's just a capacitive touchscreen and a capacitive stylus which are terrible. The whole attraction with devices like the Note and Flyer are the Wacom and N-Trig capabilities built into the display. Asus really half-assed it with the stylus on this and you can tell it was a last-minute throw in.
Also, processor manufacturers have to get around to working with LTE. For us (Note users), the trade-off between Samsung processor and the Snapdragon wasn't that huge of a deal but there's a huge difference between a Tegra 3 and an S4.
OK, I think a lot of you are here from a note or note 2, am I wrong?
I came from a Tmobile note 2. When i saw the original note 2, i was hooked on the big screen phones. People don't seem to understand the no bezel thing. A 7 inch phone and 7 inch tablet are two completely different sizes, all because of the lack of bezel. And I will keep buying bigger phones until they don't fit in my pocket anymore.
Now, onto the specifics of the phone. Yes, I think it is a tiny bit slower that the note 2, but still, in some benchmarks it did even better than the note 2. And my test is, can i download using torrents (which suck the processor and ram) and still listen to skip free music, browse the web and navigate the phone. This champ can.
The screen is awesome. it just hits you its so bright. I would have loved a 1080 but hey...
Battery life is great. Ive got a few extra off brands until the oem's come out (if they ever do) but Ive said this before, If i have a 3,200 and a smaller phone has a 2,000-2,500. When the screens are on, we are evenly matched. But the screen is not always on. So when its off, we are both running the same radios and processors, but i have a bigger battery. People don't realize this.
I don't know about you early adopters, but i just paid 515 US, no tax for mine. I think that's pretty good.
Oh, the stares. I was one of the Note 1 early adopters. I loved all the attention and envy that poured in on all sides, call me shallow, but i loved it. Its been diminishing for a long time now, becayse the note 2 was basically around the same size and it came to all the carriers. The feeling is back in full force now. That's what you get for going up an inch.
The functionality of having a pocket-able big screen phone is amazing. It's a small pocket-able tablet, that also handles my calls and texts. You basically give up one handed use at this point, even though i have big hands, but you gain in every area; typing, watching videos, gaming, surfing, any app....
I'm curious how unpopular this phone actually is.... There is basically zero devs here. And correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been out for a month...
On a similar note, the lack of the Samsung battery/charger anywhere on the web is pissing me off. I like having the ability to keep batteries charges externally so my phone doesn't have to be tethered to an outlet. You just swap out the batteries and your back at 100%.
Discuss.
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OK, I think a lot of you are here from a note or note 2, am I wrong?
I came from a Tmobile note 2. When i saw the original note 2, i was hooked on the big screen phones. People don't seem to understand the no bezel thing. A 7 inch phone and 7 inch tablet are two completely different sizes, all because of the lack of bezel. And I will keep buying bigger phones until they don't fit in my pocket anymore.
Now, onto the specifics of the phone. Yes, I think it is a tiny bit slower that the note 2, but still, in some benchmarks it did even better than the note 2. And my test is, can i download using torrents (which suck the processor and ram) and still listen to skip free music, browse the web and navigate the phone. This champ can.
The screen is awesome. it just hits you its so bright. I would have loved a 1080 but hey...
Battery life is great. Ive got a few extra off brands until the oem's come out (if they ever do) but Ive said this before, If i have a 3,200 and a smaller phone has a 2,000-2,500. When the screens are on, we are evenly matched. But the screen is not always on. So when its off, we are both running the same radios and processors, but i have a bigger battery. People don't realize this.
I don't know about you early adopters, but i just paid 515 US, no tax for mine. I think that's pretty good.
Oh, the stares. I was one of the Note 1 early adopters. I loved all the attention and envy that poured in on all sides, call me shallow, but i loved it. Its been diminishing for a long time now, becayse the note 2 was basically around the same size and it came to all the carriers. The feeling is back in full force now. That's what you get for going up an inch.
The functionality of having a pocket-able big screen phone is amazing. It's a small pocket-able tablet, that also handles my calls and texts. You basically give up one handed use at this point, even though i have big hands, but you gain in every area; typing, watching videos, gaming, surfing, any app....
I'm curious how unpopular this phone actually is.... There is basically zero devs here. And correct me if I'm wrong, but it's been out for a month...
On a similar note, the lack of the Samsung battery/charger anywhere on the web is pissing me off. I like having the ability to keep batteries charges externally so my phone doesn't have to be tethered to an outlet. You just swap out the batteries and your back at 100%.
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I came from the original Note so I can see and feel a big leap in performance. I guess if you came from a Note 2 then you might not notice any difference or maybe expect so much improvement that you think it's slower. Size wise I am very happy with it, friends and family actually didn't even notice that I'm using a Mega. You can only see the big difference if you set them next to each other, most of the time they see my phone from afar and think it's the Note. If strangers ask, I'll just tell them it's a mini tablet that can make calls rather than a huge smartphone.
Development is slow because they are waiting for a kernel to be developed by Philz and/or Chainfire. It's just been 2 weeks since its been available so I won't worry much about developer support. Right now I've just got root and deleted/uninstalled a lot of bloatware and disabled almost all features so my phone runs very fast. Also, using Foldermount I am able to install apps exceeding the internal storage capacity.
I got 2 extra batteries from eBay which are 3500 mah and I'm okay with the battery life so I'm just using one. As for popularity, I think it will be like the original Note where people started to like it when they saw it being used by others since just looking at the specs of it on paper is not as appealing as holding it in your hand and seeing that huge display for videos and games. Lots of other manufacturers are releasing phones over 6 inches and I'm sure it will be the norm next year.
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I came from the original Note so I can see and feel a big leap in performance. I guess if you came from a Note 2 then you might not notice any difference or maybe expect so much improvement that you think it's slower. Size wise I am very happy with it, friends and family actually didn't even notice that I'm using a Mega. You can only see the big difference if you set them next to each other, most of the time they see my phone from afar and think it's the Note. If strangers ask, I'll just tell them it's a mini tablet that can make calls rather than a huge smartphone.
Development is slow because they are waiting for a kernel to be developed by Philz and/or Chainfire. It's just been 2 weeks since its been available so I won't worry much about developer support. Right now I've just got root and deleted/uninstalled a lot of bloatware and disabled almost all features so my phone runs very fast. Also, using Foldermount I am able to install apps exceeding the internal storage capacity.
I got 2 extra batteries from eBay which are 3500 mah and I'm okay with the battery life so I'm just using one. As for popularity, I think it will be like the original Note where people started to like it when they saw it being used by others since just looking at the specs of it on paper is not as appealing as holding it in your hand and seeing that huge display for videos and games. Lots of other manufacturers are releasing phones over 6 inches and I'm sure it will be the norm next year.
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I didn't realize it had only been two weeks. But yeah, same with me i guess. Rooted, got rid of the bloatware, uninstalled some apps. And now i can use the multi wondow manager.
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People don't seem to understand the no bezel thing. A 7 inch phone and 7 inch tablet are two completely different sizes, all because of the lack of bezel. And I will keep buying bigger phones until they don't fit in my pocket anymore.
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I'm absolutely with you on that one mate. I'm actually hoping the go for the full 7" screen at some point.
I'm currently rocking the Note 2... I have bought a Mega 6.3" for the mrs and I'm waiting to see what the Note 3 will bring. However I think the Note 3 will be around 6" so the largest top spec device is going to be the Xperia X Ultra for some time, so thats what Im planning on going for (despite the limitations of non removable battery an no flash)... I'd love a 6.5 or 7" Note with small bezels, removable battery etc but I just cant see it being an option this year..
I do predict though that next year we will see some genuine top notch 7" convergence devices. Even with the new Xperia X Ultra if they had trimmed the top and bottom bezels they could have almost fitted a 7" screen into the same footprint. It would have to be "marginally" wider of course. Exciting times ahead I think. I know the tech industry moves fast, but its not moving fast enough for me lol
Bold move by Sony though. At least they are genuinely trying, even if they haven't quite hit it on the head yet.
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I'm absolutely with you on that one mate. I'm actually hoping the go for the full 7" screen at some point.
I'm currently rocking the Note 2... I have bought a Mega 6.3" for the mrs and I'm waiting to see what the Note 3 will bring. However I think the Note 3 will be around 6" so the largest top spec device is going to be the Xperia X Ultra for some time, so thats what Im planning on going for (despite the limitations of non removable battery an no flash)... I'd love a 6.5 or 7" Note with small bezels, removable battery etc but I just cant see it being an option this year..
I do predict though that next year we will see some genuine top notch 7" convergence devices. Even with the new Xperia X Ultra if they had trimmed the top and bottom bezels they could have almost fitted a 7" screen into the same footprint. It would have to be "marginally" wider of course. Exciting times ahead I think. I know the tech industry moves fast, but its not moving fast enough for me lol
Bold move by Sony though. At least they are genuinely trying, even if they haven't quite hit it on the head yet.
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I hear what you're saying, and I love the large screens, but that Xperia Ultra looks TOO damn big. I think they crossed the line with that one. I think that 6" is perfect for me, but i'm willing to do the Mega 6.3 because Samsung made it so thin and it looks stylish. But the Xperia Ultra kinda looks like a small brick. lol
This would be an ideal device for me if it only had apt-x support. Samsung build quality, large battery, great display, no Exynos(!!).
I have wireless speaker system at home and I use HS3000 headset a lot when I am commuting.
The difference in sound compared to standard Bluetooth A2DP is noticeable.
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This would be an ideal device for me if it only had apt-x support. Samsung build quality, large battery, great display, no Exynos(!!).
I have wireless speaker system at home and I use HS3000 headset a lot when I am commuting.
The difference in sound compared to standard Bluetooth A2DP is noticeable.
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I thought it has apt X support as mentioned in the Engadget review
Anyway, we use Sonos so it's not a requirement for us.
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I hear what you're saying, and I love the large screens, but that Xperia Ultra looks TOO damn big. I think they crossed the line with that one. I think that 6" is perfect for me, but i'm willing to do the Mega 6.3 because Samsung made it so thin and it looks stylish. But the Xperia Ultra kinda looks like a small brick. lol
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I agree and I'd have been happier with the mega form factor. Lets hope they see fit to outfit it with top specs at a later point.
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I agree and I'd have been happier with the mega form factor. Lets hope they see fit to outfit it with top specs at a later point.
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Here is a video of the Xperia ZU pocket test. I don't think you can walk comfortably with that in your pocket let alone sit or put it in your shirt pocket unlike the Mega. Even the ads for it never show it being put in the pocket, just in bags. The difference in screen size is just 0.1 inch (2.54 mm) which is almost negligible and for that small increase you get a phone that is 2.78 square inches bigger than the Mega plus onscreen buttons that take up to 10 mm of the screen. Also, on screen buttons can be a hassle specially when playing games because they are more prone to tapping.
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Off screen buttons + bigger actual usable screen = better gaming experience
The price of the Xperia ZU is also questionable at the moment.
You can buy 2 Galaxy Mega 6.3s with over £110 left over with the pre-order price tag.
So how's the Mega like in low light? If you're using it in the bedroom at night with lamps turned off? Is it as bad as the Note 10.1 where light bleeds from the edges and blacks are grey?
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The pocket size is not really an issue for me. I wear loose bottoms most of the time at home/gym and don't even put my current phone (note 2) in my pocket while in the car or at work.
I admit the ultra certainly has its shortcomings, and without dismissing the mega 6.3 (I bought one for the mrs and she loves it), there really is noting else with real top end specs with the same real estate.
Give me a mega 6.3 with a 1080p screen and a snapgragon 800 and I'd be all over it. It just doesn't exist yet. While nobody can really say they really "need" all that extra horsepower I "want" it and thats enough for me to pay a premium. The device itself will only cost me £49 upfront on my current contract which is up for renewal.
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So how's the Mega like in low light? If you're using it in the bedroom at night with lamps turned off? Is it as bad as the Note 10.1 where light bleeds from the edges and blacks are grey?
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I'm using it right now in bed with the lights off and I can't see any light bleed on the screen. The blacks will not be as deep as AMOLED but it's very good. I actually like the fact that it's brighter than my original Note under sunlight and darker at night time which is great for the eyes.
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The pocket size is not really an issue for me. I wear loose bottoms most of the time at home/gym and don't even put my current phone (note 2) in my pocket while in the car or at work.
I admit the ultra certainly has its shortcomings, and without dismissing the mega 6.3 (I bought one for the mrs and she loves it), there really is noting else with real top end specs with the same real estate.
Give me a mega 6.3 with a 1080p screen and a snapgragon 800 and I'd be all over it. It just doesn't exist yet. While nobody can really say they really "need" all that extra horsepower I "want" it and thats enough for me to pay a premium.
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I'm sure the Mega you wish for will be available next year. As for now, I'll enjoy the first gen Mega since I usually change my phone every year. Paying over double the price of the Mega for something which is not over double the advantage is not for me.
^^^^^^^^^ Logically your right of course, but been as my contract is up and its a case of having the mega 6.3 free of charge or paying £49 upfront for the Ultra Im not going to sweat it.. If i had to double down in cold hard cash and buy outright it would be a completely different senario.
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^^^^^^^^^ Logically your right of course, but been as my contract is up and its a case of having the mega 6.3 free of charge or paying £49 upfront for the Ultra Im not going to sweat it.. If i had to double down in cold hard cash and buy outright it would be a completely different senario.
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How much do you pay each month and how long is the contact? Are they already offering the Xperia Z Ultra? What network is this?
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I'm using it right now in bed with the lights off and I can't see any light bleed on the screen. The blacks will not be as deep as AMOLED but it's very good. I actually like the fact that it's brighter than my original Note under sunlight and darker at night time which is great for the eyes.
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Thanks... so what you're saying is that at night in bed you can actually make the Mega less bright than the Note2? If that's the case then it's great.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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How much do you pay each month and how long is the contact? Are they already offering the Xperia Z Ultra? What network is this?
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Im with 3 mobile uk. I pay £36 a month for 2000min 5000texts and unlimited data including teathering. Its a 2 year contract. Its been announced they will carry it in Sept. Upfront prices have been rumoured but not confirmed yet. The plan price will stay the same it always does its just the upfront cost that will vary. The £49 upfront sounds about right.
At the end of my contract I usually cancel and take another contract out with the same carrier through quidco the cash back site and get about 100 cash back
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Thanks... so what you're saying is that at night in bed you can actually make the Mega less bright than the Note2? If that's the case then it's great.
Brgds... /Tubgirl
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Yes. I need an app to get the original Note's brightness down to acceptable levels at night which I don't need with the Mega.
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Im with 3 mobile uk. I pay £36 a month for 2000min 5000texts and unlimited data including teathering. Its a 2 year contract. Its been announced they will carry it in Sept. Upfront prices have been rumoured but not confirmed yet. The plan price will stay the same it always does its just the upfront cost that will vary. The £49 upfront sounds about right.
At the end of my contract I usually cancel and take another contract out with the same carrier through quidco the cash back site and get about 100 cash back
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I see. So the £49 up front is not official, being the most expensive phablet/smartphone at the moment I expect the upfront cost to be higher.
£36 x 24 months + £49 upfront = £913 is not bad if you use most of the included minutes, texts, and data.
I just use an Ovivo SIM which give me 150 minutes, 250 texts, and 500MB data every month for FREE so I just look at the actual cost of the phone.
^^^^^^^^^ The upfront cost is going to be same as a 32gb or 64gb iphone 5.
The ebay link posted on the previous page is inflated. You can order for Expansys for £639 http://www.androidorigin.com/sony-x...se-date-set-to-september-13-priced-at-639-99/
By comparison the 32gig iphone 5 is £599 and the 64gb is £699. But yeah using that rational the xperia Z Ultra upfront cost should be about £150... Three charge £129 upfront for the 32gig iphone.
Theres not that much difference in their price plans...The basic ones (with devices) start about £30, and the unlimited one is £36. I have been known to download torrents and teather my laptop to the phone so its nice just not to have to worry about worrying out of date etc
How's the loudspeaker compared to the Note2? Let's say if you're showing a YouTube clip to someone... which one is louder?
Brgds...
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How's the loudspeaker compared to the Note2? Let's say if you're showing a YouTube clip to someone... which one is louder?
Brgds...
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I don't have a Note 2 to compare it with but I don't have to put the volume to max when showing youtube videos to others with my Mega 6.3.
Now that a BNIB Nexus 6 (not 6p) is $300, I am getting the itch to swap my XZU for one. The N6 has a slightly faster processor, thinner bezels, higher screen resolution, more RAM, better camera (with flash), bigger battery, and oleophobic gorilla glass 3 instead of a plastic screen protector with non-oleophobic glass underneath. But I love my unique XZU with its bigger (non AMOLED) screen, thinner body, SD card slot, and water resistance.
Am I crazy to switch, or is the N6 a worthy successor at its current price? I'm guessing it'd cost around $100 to switch (sell the XZU for $200ish).
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Now that a BNIB Nexus 6 (not 6p) is $300, I am getting the itch to swap my XZU for one. The N6 has a slightly faster processor, thinner bezels, higher screen resolution, more RAM, better camera (with flash), bigger battery, and oleophobic gorilla glass 3 instead of a plastic screen protector with non-oleophobic glass underneath. But I love my unique XZU with its bigger (non AMOLED) screen, thinner body, SD card slot, and water resistance.
Am I crazy to switch, or is the N6 a worthy successor at its current price? I'm guessing it'd cost around $100 to switch (sell the XZU for $200ish).
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I wouldn't make such a switch (and I have tried the N6). It is a better idea to keep the Ultra until new Snapdragon 820 based devices with bigger screens are out.
To me, the smaller display and limited storage are the key deal breakers and despite the benefits of higher screen resolution, I haven't been happy with the color reproduction on some N6s I have been trying.
From my point of view, there are no device which can fully replace the Ultra just yet. There are devices that better some parameters (such as higher display resolution and a better camera) but it usually falls back on areas such as display size or developer support and so forth.
What I would recommend is rather to keep the Ultra and see if Sony introduces a Z5 Tablet Compact, which could work as a direct replacement (I have decided to get an 8 inch device as a replacement when something with Snapdragon 820, 4 GB RAM, 2K or 4K display etc is in the market).
After I saw the nasty screen burn, I'dstay away from AMOLED.
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After I saw the nasty screen burn, I'dstay away from AMOLED.
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Also, you know how most smokers' teeth go from white to yellow after some years? Yup, same with AMOLED. Sure, it looks pretty, but that beauty doesn't last.
Dat goddamn AMOLED. Dim and red-tinted as hell. You wouldn't want that. Even as a Nexus fan I deem it my most disliked Nexus phone.
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If i had to buy a new phone today i would def buy a nexus 6 for $300. Fortunately i dont though, and i am quite happy with my nearly 2 year old 6806. Until it dies, is stolen, is broken or there is a REAL replacement for it, it reamins with me on the daily!
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Now that a BNIB Nexus 6 (not 6p) is $300, I am getting the itch to swap my XZU for one. The N6 has a slightly faster processor, thinner bezels, higher screen resolution, more RAM, better camera (with flash), bigger battery, and oleophobic gorilla glass 3 instead of a plastic screen protector with non-oleophobic glass underneath. But I love my unique XZU with its bigger (non AMOLED) screen, thinner body, SD card slot, and water resistance.
Am I crazy to switch, or is the N6 a worthy successor at its current price? I'm guessing it'd cost around $100 to switch (sell the XZU for $200ish).
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I already did the switch. Ill write another post about this.
Im getting the 64 GB version Nexus 6. Cant wait to try it out. Its the only good 6 coll phablet out there.
Currently I use Z Ultra as LTE tablet on mobile broadband ($10/5GB) and it works.
Unfortunately, it's impossible to find comparable 7" tablet with decent spec.
I am recently own both of them.
The next phone in my plan is Moto X Style.
(Until the customROMs up and Price down.)
I personally think updating from SD 800 to SD 805 is very incremental in nature(benchmark scores support this idea) I'm waiting for z5 ultra or some other phablet with snapdragon 820 and quadHD screen and 4Gb of RAM. I will wait until its a year old and then I will buy that phone. I will make sure that there are a lot of developers for that phone in XDA before buying ?. My phone hits 39k in antutu, if SD 820 hits 75k it will truly be an upgrade.
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Got a Nexus 6 now. Rooted it, installed CM12.
A few points:
1. Installing custom roms and Bootloader unlocking is easier than in Z ultra.
2 Gorilla Glass feels smooth, amoled is really great.
3 Camera on Nexus 6 is great. However, its better in stock rom than in CM12.
4. Very smooth. No stutters at all.
Well I currently own a Z Ultra. And recently bought a Nexus 6. I must say its a real pleasure to use the Nexus 6.. Minus the screen size, it is superior in every way.. The speaker is fantastic, developer support is there and still growing, screen with correct calibration u can achieve IPS colour quality, no yellowish/pinkish tint. Camera miles better. Battery a little better. A little better processing power.
Dun get me wrong, I love the Z Ultra, its a absolutely beautiful device and I am definitely going to keep it. But for me I could never really get used to it as a phone. Its simply too big... Development is slowing down as well. Speaker is really a joke.
The lack of a micro SDHC card slot and smaller screen killed the older nexus 6 for me.
The only real negative for me about the XZU is the speaker. Lack of flash is minor issue. After far no complaints.
If there's a Z5 ultra, I'll buy it if it's faster with more RAM and better battery life, and keeps the magnetic charge connector or replaces it with Qi, and keeps the card slot, has decent speakers and new better camera with flash.
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The lack of a micro SDHC card slot and smaller screen killed the older nexus 6 for me.
The only real negative for me about the XZU is the speaker. Lack of flash is minor issue. After far no complaints.
If there's a Z5 ultra, I'll buy it if it's faster with more RAM and better battery life, and keeps the magnetic charge connector or replaces it with Qi, and keeps the card slot, has decent speakers and new better camera with flash.
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It will definitely have a faster CPU, which will be the S820. It will probably have 3-4GB of RAM, battery probably around 3500mAh, no magnetic charging connector, and no Qi. What makes me say these things?
The first 820-devices will hit the market in Q1 2016, so it will most certainly have it too. The Z5 has 3GB of RAM, so it'll probably have 3GB, unless they bump it up to 4, but Sony has never been the OEM who throws a lot of RAM into their devices, like Samsung. So I'll say 3GB, but maybe 4.
The magnetic charger is gone from the Z3+, Z5 and Z5C (Z1, Z2, Z3 had it), so it looks like they're done with the magnetic connector, and it doesn't exist a single Sony product with Qi, or any other wireless charging, so I'd say that that's also a no-go.
But all we can do now is to speculate, so yeah, who knows.
yeah, I know wireless charging is unlikely. I can't understand why Sony didn't adopt it to replace the mag charge coupler. However, one problem with the mag coupler is that if you use a cable rather than a dock, you can attach it the wrong way round, which is down to stupidity plain and simple!
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yeah, I know wireless charging is unlikely. I can't understand why Sony didn't adopt it to replace the mag charge coupler. However, one problem with the mag coupler is that if you use a cable rather than a dock, you can attach it the wrong way round, which is down to stupidity plain and simple!
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Yup, I managed to plug it in the wrong way into the dock ones and I almost screamed. Nothing was damaged though, but I know a couple of people around here haven't been that lucky. The most annoying thing with a regular USB cable is the plugging, especially when when there's a flap there too. Let's hope there is a Z Ultra 5, or something though. Would love to have it with a better camera and smaller bezels.
To clarify, I meant it's a stupid design, not stupid people doing it. I only connected mine once the other way accidentally for a split second and the phone instantly turned off, luckily not damaged.
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To clarify, I meant it's a stupid design, not stupid people doing it. I only connected mine once the other way accidentally for a split second and the phone instantly turned off, luckily not damaged.
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Haha, yeah I got that. It's just too easy to connect it the wrong way, and once that happens.. well.. bad things might happen, well, bad thing WILL happen. I had the same experience as you. Connected it wrong for a split second, pulled it off and what I got was a blinking red LED above the screen, rebooted and it was all fine again. Crappy design? Very. But it's more annoying to open the USB flap and connect the charger every night, in my opinion.
I'm looking to move on from the Z3v in the near future. I'm curious what phones others have moved on to. I'm looking at the Moto G4 Plus possibly with 4GB RAM and 64 GB on board.
I'm trying to keep my budget to <$300. Any ideas?
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I'm looking to move on from the Z3v in the near future. I'm curious what phones others have moved on to. I'm looking at the Moto G4 Plus possibly with 4GB RAM and 64 GB on board.
I'm trying to keep my budget to <$300. Any ideas?
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I moved onto the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, but that was because of a BOGO deal last year.
Are you locked down to Verizon or do you have another carrier? If I were you being on Verizon, I'd take advantage of this offer today: https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/moto-z-play-droid/
The Moto Z is a truly modular phone that LG failed for its G5 to become. This is the Play version, but I'd rather much prefer the Force version as it has a bigger battery, better camera, and shatterproof screen tech. Either version comes with 32GBs, which isn't a problem to deal with when you can have expandable memory. It's not waterproof like the Z3v, but it's still splash resistant so I think streaming it in the sink won't do any harm if you want a quick clean. lol
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I moved onto the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge, but that was because of a BOGO deal last year.
Are you locked down to Verizon or do you have another carrier? If I were you being on Verizon, I'd take advantage of this offer today: https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/moto-z-play-droid/
The Moto Z is a truly modular phone that LG failed for its G5 to become. This is the Play version, but I'd rather much prefer the Force version as it has a bigger battery, better camera, and shatterproof screen tech. Either version comes with 32GBs, which isn't a problem to deal with when you can have expandable memory. It's not waterproof like the Z3v, but it's still splash resistant so I think streaming it in the sink won't do any harm if you want a quick clean. lol
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Appreciate the response. I have an S7 for work which I really like, and I'm tracking the Edge on Swappa. I do like this phone. Unfortunately, I am locked to VZ, and that Moto Z Play Droid offer, which I was on the verge of ordering yesterday, is for new lines only...so regular price is $17/mo ($408 total) and that is just too rich for what I consider a "compromise" phone. I can get a mint condition S7 on Swappa for $330 or so, which is clearly superior.
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Appreciate the response. I have an S7 for work which I really like, and I'm tracking the Edge on Swappa. I do like this phone. Unfortunately, I am locked to VZ, and that Moto Z Play Droid offer, which I was on the verge of ordering yesterday, is for new lines only...so regular price is $17/mo ($408 total) and that is just too rich for what I consider a "compromise" phone. I can get a mint condition S7 on Swappa for $330 or so, which is clearly superior.
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Oh, it's always those fine print words that gets you. I forgot to even think that you have to get a new line to take advantage of the discounted price. If I read and knew about it, I wouldn't have recommended it to you.
For a mint condition S7, that's pretty good for $330. The flat version allows you better accessorizing like tempered glass and more variety of cases. Definitely make a go for it.
I tried out the LG G6 for a week. Then, I got on Ebay and I ordered a new, in box Z3v. Why? Because this phone cannot be beat. I'd move to AT&T and get a newer Xperia if it wasn't such a hassle or cost so much. After my screen kept registering a touch (after 3 years of working fine) I had to replace my original Z3v. I could keep the LG G6. It just wasn't $600 worth of improvement. In fact, the lack of the front facing stereo speakers was so annoying that that's what did it in for me. Maybe it was faster (I couldn't notice). Maybe it was on a newer Android version (There were a few neat improvements there.) Maybe it had a better camera (Again, after using Xposed to set my default auto to 20MP - I couldn't notice it.) Maybe it has better resolution (It must just be me but I couldn't see any improvement from full 1080 on the Z3v versus the LG G6. Maybe my eyes just can't see pixels any smaller than 1080).
So - to make a long story short- I walk into to Verizon to turn in my LG G6 before I couldn't and they were like "why?" And I was like because it's worse than what I replaced. I got what I had had on Ebay for $120 and I'm perfectly happy with it. They were like "What was it?" And I said a Sony Z3v and they were like "Yeah, you Sony people love your phones, don't you."
Yes, yes we do.
The front facing stereo speakers, flawless performance and still excellent battery life are hard to walk away from. Keeping it until another phone with stereo front facing speakers is available. Too bad people gave this phone such a bad rap an Verizon didn't support it. It was/is the perhaps the best phone Verizon possibly ever carried.
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The front facing stereo speakers, flawless performance and still excellent battery life are hard to walk away from. Keeping it until another phone with stereo front facing speakers is available. Too bad people gave this phone such a bad rap an Verizon didn't support it. It was/is the perhaps the best phone Verizon possibly ever carried.
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I'm a bit surprised you haven't moved on yet. Battery life still holding up as great as what you had before?
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I'm a bit surprised you haven't moved on yet. Battery life still holding up as great as what you had before?
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Actually I'm surprised I haven't moved on yet too! The battery life is still good... I'm still getting about 5 hours screen on time. My phone is no longer waterproof however as a couple of the flap/covers are missing...lol. My options are a little limited on Verizon for a replacement... don't like Samsung curved edge devices and Moto mods are not my thing. G6 looks OK but my Z3v still works perfectly fine so I'm not sure I want to give up yet. Hoping the Pixel 2 or Note 8 will trip my trigger. What do you have now?
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Actually I'm surprised I haven't moved on yet too! The battery life is still good... I'm still getting about 5 hours screen on time. My phone is no longer waterproof however as a couple of the flap/covers are missing...lol. My options are a little limited on Verizon for a replacement... don't like Samsung curved edge devices and Moto mods are not my thing. G6 looks OK but my Z3v still works perfectly fine so I'm not sure I want to give up yet. Hoping the Pixel 2 or Note 8 will trip my trigger. What do you have now?
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I have the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge. The S8/S8+ curves are perfection because the S7 Edge's are way too curvey, but I guess I'll wait to upgrade later.
That's pretty great you still have 5 hours of SOT. I'm not getting anywhere near that unless I just watch movies on my S7 Edge because of how poorly optimized Samsung is with their software. I only find it problematic that the Z3v can't go into Marshmallow because the 801 chips are supposed to be able to do it. Doze mode is really helpful with that.
The Note 8 is a definite must with all its bells and whistles. The Pixel 2 is something I would have to see when they announce it because the Pixel 1's design language looks bland. The G6 seems like the reasonable upgrade from the Z3v, but the UI is different for my taste and you have to be weary of LG's bootloop issue.
I've moved on to the Note 8.
I have the S8+, but the edges and corners are too rounded. The extras, like the dual camera, more RAM and the Spen are great. I definitely love the form factor of the Note 8 over the S8+.
I am NOT a fan of the beveled edges! And the lack of stereo speakers is tough to take on such expensive models that are otherwise so feature rich.
Meanwhile, I am buying new batteries, adhesive gaskets and glass backs for both Z3Vs, which are in brand-new shape.
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I've moved on to the Note 8.
I have the S8+, but the edges and corners are too rounded. The extras, like the dual camera, more RAM and the Spen are great. I definitely love the form factor of the Note 8 over the S8+.
I am NOT a fan of the beveled edges! And the lack of stereo speakers is tough to take on such expensive models that are otherwise so feature rich.
Meanwhile, I am buying new batteries, adhesive gaskets and glass backs for both Z3Vs, which are in brand-new shape.
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Aha, I've moved onto the Note 8. Once on the Note, I don't think I could ever go back to another smartphone. The S Pen is a jewel and the form factor is definitely a step up above the S7 Edge I had before and the S8/S8+. Albeit it is quite a tall phone though.
My Z3V is just sitting on my desk, reverted to factory image and all. Why buy new parts in repairing it though?
The batteries have crapped out. To replace them is a nightmare that involves removing the glass back with a heat gun. On videos I've seen, the adhesive gasket is unsalvageable. And since the back is glass, I figure there is a good chance of breaking it.
The parts are cheap, and both of my Z3Vs are in perfect shape with their boxes.
I'm fondly recalling my z3v while I enjoy writing this post with the S pen on my Noto 8. Ressurection of the Z3V is really all about the stereo speakers!
Note 9 was announce today and all the leaks were right it will be a clone of the Note 8 what's small little cheap upgrades like little bit bigger battery S-Pen take pictures and crap. The biggest disappointment was the finger print scaner that they have ready but decided to say screw you to Note customers. Samsung is trying to pull a Apple on us. Big big disappointment and Samsung wonders why the S9 was a flop why? Because you made the S9 just like the S8 to save money. Then you do the same mistake again with the Note9? Samsung you want to sell a lot of phones... Every year pack the new phones with as much new tech and change the design it's that easy. Samsung knew the S9 was a flop and why it was a flop and yall still put out this clone Note 9? I am sticking with my Note 8. Might see what other companies are doing since Samsung stuck us with this crap. Good way to loose customers. Are yall going to be suckered into the Note 9 or sticking with the Note8
I m surprised that there is no UK promotion... In the US you get free headphones worth 300usd and in the UK nothing at all...
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There's always a thread like this. I love my Note 8 but will definitely get the Note 9. Take a step back and look at the specs... It has EVERYTHING a power user could ever want. Best screen, biggest screen, stereo speakers, massive battery, top processor, massive memory at 6gb, insane at 8GB.. and 512GB storage!!!!! It is the BEAST! I can't wait!
Will not get it, if you have a Note 8, it's barely a decent upgrade and not worth wasting your money.
I might get the next large iPhone X that comes out or the Pixel 3, but if they don't interest me, I'll keep my Note 8 for another year, its been a great phone!
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There's always a thread like this. I love my Note 8 but will definitely get the Note 9. Take a step back and look at the specs... It has EVERYTHING a power user could ever want. Best screen, biggest screen, stereo speakers, massive battery, top processor, massive memory at 6gb, insane at 8GB.. and 512GB storage!!!!! It is the BEAST! I can't wait!
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Huawei is coming out with a phone with a 6.9 in screen super slim and it has 8gb ram and 4,000mah battery. The only thing I am impressed about on the Note 9 is 8gb of ram 512GB I barely use my 64 gigabytes on this phone and if I need more I have a 256gb card in my phone too. This will flop just like the S9 did all they had to do is put that damn finger print scaner in the display and this Note9 would've been their best selling phone by far Apple fans wouldve bought one. But no they screwed us and held back. 1,257 dollars ha ha for that it better have the finger print scaner in the display and I want the whole phone redesigned. People want a fresh new phone every year. Look at the Note 7 and the Note 8 that's the kinda of change people want those 2 phone don't look alike
Not getting it. The fact that it is releasing with Android Oreo is a killer for me. I'm tired of being the last to receive updates. Essential already has a Pie firmware out for their device, many other manufacturers were part of the Pie beta using the GSIs and Samsung held back. Now this amazing phone with over the top specs and a price to match is releasing with a year old OS and their roadmap for their other phones is targeting 8.1. No thanks, Samsung is still living in the past.
Edit: also, I don't want a purple phone or a bright yellow s-pen. The color options available today are horrendous.
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Note 9 was announce today and all the leaks were right it will be a clone of the Note 8 what's small little cheap upgrades like little bit bigger battery S-Pen take pictures and crap. The biggest disappointment was the finger print scaner that they have ready but decided to say screw you to Note customers. Samsung is trying to pull a Apple on us. Big big disappointment and Samsung wonders why the S9 was a flop why? Because you made the S9 just like the S8 to save money. Then you do the same mistake again with the Note9? Samsung you want to sell a lot of phones... Every year pack the new phones with as much new tech and change the design it's that easy. Samsung knew the S9 was a flop and why it was a flop and yall still put out this clone Note 9? I am sticking with my Note 8. Might see what other companies are doing since Samsung stuck us with this crap. Good way to loose customers. Are yall going to be suckered into the Note 9 or sticking with the Note8
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What is wrong with the fingerprint scanner that you're so upset about? You wanted an in-display reader? You have some awfully high expectations. It takes a very long time to design, prototype, test and create these devices. They've likely been working on creating the Note9 before the S9 was released. It's not just a one or two month process. Whatever it is you think that flopped the S9, they couldn't have known that would be an issue by the time they started designing the Note9. What exactly is the "same mistake" they made with the Note9 that they made with the S9 also, anyway?
Regarding your question: I'm not going to get the Note9, because I'm on a 2-year contract and I got the Note8 only about 4 months ago. I'm going to have to wait for the Note10.
Nope. For two reasons:
1. I see only the battery as noticeable change (Stylus also, but for now I don't think I will use the BT functionality);
2. I am not so rich to swap phones like this.
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Not getting it. The fact that it is releasing with Android Oreo is a killer for me. I'm tired of being the last to receive updates. Essential already has a Pie firmware out for their device, many other manufacturers were part of the Pie beta using the GSIs and Samsung held back. Now this amazing phone with over the top specs and a price to match is releasing with a year old OS and their roadmap for their other phones is targeting 8.1. No thanks, Samsung is still living in the past.
Edit: also, I don't want a purple phone or a bright yellow s-pen. The color options available today are horrendous.
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Samsung upgrades their android only once at beginning of the year.
For example The S10 Will come with Android P Then Note 9 will receive it. Expect it in May 2019
Yeah this is bad. The large issue with Note 9 that their is no UX Difference and selfie camera is the same, so yeah you get an extra shutter button on s pen and a 20%
battery increase for 1200$. At this point I would just pay 300$ to get a 512 gb sd on my 64 gb note 8 if I need that kind of storage.
Weren't we promised with crown ux or samsung ditched it for the s10?
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Samsung upgrades their android only once at beginning of the year.
For example The S10 Will come with Android P Then Note 9 will receive it. Expect it in May 2019
Yeah this is bad. The large issue with Note 9 that their is no UX Difference and selfie camera is the same, so yeah you get an extra shutter button on s pen and a 20%
battery increase for 1200$. At this point I would just pay 300$ to get a 512 gb sd on my 64 gb note 8 if I need that kind of storage.
Weren't we promised with crown ux or samsung ditched it for the s10?
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Ive never found space to be an issue with 64gb so while nice, the added storage is not driving my
desire for a new phone. The battery increase is nice. I'm definitely looking for a phone with at minimum 4000mah. I use my s-pen for sketching wood shop projects, and the occasional note and that's really all. So the enhancements there are lost on me.
You're absolutely right about the upgrade schedule. It made sense before project treble when creating the new system images took way more effort. And this isn't just directed at Samsung. I am looking for an "upgrade" to my note 8. But I won't be buying any phone that doesn't come with Android P out of the box or available through GSI. I have no problem flashing a rom to get it. It's why I love the Android platform. And maybe just because my note 8 is such a fantastic phone already, now's the time to use another manufacturers device. I was particularly fond of the Razer phone I played with at the Microsoft store and if the ROG phone ever gets released maybe that will provide me the experience I want. I'm not getting rid of my note 8, and I think it's a great phone to fall back on, but I don't see the note 9 in my future.
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There's always a thread like this. I love my Note 8 but will definitely get the Note 9. Take a step back and look at the specs... It has EVERYTHING a power user could ever want. Best screen, biggest screen, stereo speakers, massive battery, top processor, massive memory at 6gb, insane at 8GB.. and 512GB storage!!!!! It is the BEAST! I can't wait!
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And you'll buy it, put it side by side next to your Note 8 and wonder why on earth you bothered spending so much money when you got essentially, a slightly bigger battery and a marginally bigger phone......That's it.
The reason the Note 9 has a bigger battery is because it's constantly charging the cap in the BLE S-Pen, real world, it won't be any better than what you already have except for the BLE gimmicks you won't use.
Very poor value for money if you're coming from a Note 8 already.
I totally agree.
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And you'll buy it, put it side by side next to your Note 8 and wonder why on earth you bothered spending so much money when you got essentially, a slightly bigger battery and a marginally bigger phone......That's it.
The reason the Note 9 has a bigger battery is because it's constantly charging the cap in the BLE S-Pen, real world, it won't be any better than what you already have except for the BLE gimmicks you won't use.
Very poor value for money if you're coming from a Note 8 already.
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I don't think it is poor value for money in my opinion. We all have reasons why we think we would get it or not. It may not be your impression but it feels to me as if saying Yes means you have made a wrong choice. Each to his own but for me, I will trade my note 8 for the note 9.
Storage, Battery size chiefly swayed me. Like many others, I am disappointed by Samsung for not doing more. But I think the Note 9 for me personally is worthy of the upgrade.
@Alex---1, Do you have any source that the battery is bigger because it is constantly charging the S-Pen? I don't the phone will be constantly changing the S-Pen but even if so, I really don't think the S-Pen would draw that much power. But of course, it is my humble opinion and would be happy to be corrected. You may be right but I think it is too early to draw that conclusion.
I really appreciate the comments I have read so far about the reasons why people will go for it or not. I can't wait to read that of others.
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I don't think it is poor value for money in my opinion. We all have reasons why we think we would get it or not. It may not be your impression but it feels to me as if saying Yes means you have made a wrong choice. Each to his own but for me, I will trade my note 8 for the note 9.
Storage, Battery size chiefly swayed me. Like many others, I am disappointed by Samsung for not doing more. But I think the Note 9 for me personally is worthy of the upgrade.
@Alex---1, Do you have any source that the battery is bigger because it is constantly charging the S-Pen? I don't the phone will be constantly changing the S-Pen but even if so, I really don't think the S-Pen would draw that much power. But of course, it is my humble opinion and would be happy to be corrected. You may be right but I think it is too early to draw that conclusion.
I really appreciate the comments I have read so far about the reasons why people will go for it or not. I can't wait to read that of others.
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Each to their own on what they spend their money on but it really is quite the waste if you've got a Note 8.
I don't need a source for the S-Pen charging, I'm an electronics engineer, I design these things for a living. The S-Pen will not have a battery, it'll have a small super capacitor inside that'll get a burst of induction current from the phones battery, which will then gradually deplete over a few minutes till the phone has to give it another burst of current.
Depending on how often you use the BLE stuff throughout a day you'll likely see battery life no better than the Note 8. It's only another 700mA of juice. 5-6 gulps from the S-Pen throughout the day and you'll see very little to no difference between the 2 devices.
No, I will be sticking with my Note 8. I'm more than happy with the 8 and see no valid reason for spending another $1000.00 on a phone that I mainly use for reading and listening to audio. It really isn't worth the expense to "upgrade" from a perfectly good working phone that exceeds my needs. Besides that I'm still paying for mine and will be for the foreseeable future.
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Depending on how often you use the BLE stuff throughout a day you'll likely see battery life no better than the Note 8. It's only another 700mA of juice. 5-6 gulps from the S-Pen throughout the day and you'll see very little to no difference between the 2 devices.
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You are spot on with this.
700 Mah is 20% increase and your display have higher ppi [that you won't notice] will drain that mah any way.
I also want to warn exynos users the exynos processor in 2018 is terrible at battery life [see s9 for refrence]
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700 Mah is 20% increase and your display have higher ppi [that you won't notice] will drain that mah any way.
I also want to warn exynos users the exynos processor in 2018 is terrible at battery life [see s9 for refrence]
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700 Mah is 20% increase and your display have higher ppi [that you won't notice] will drain that mah any way.
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Actually the Note 9 has a slightly lower PPI than the Note 8...larger screen, but same resolution. The very negligible difference in PPI won't really affect real-world battery life either way though.
Using the Note 8 with a locked bootloader next to the OnePlus 6.
Note 9 is just expensive. Locked bootloader in the U.S. and cannot afford the phone upfront so would have to go with a carrier. The promotion of the Samsung Gifts for pre-order is just plain bad. I remember I got a free Google Home with the Lg G6 that was only $700.
People need to stop fueling Samsung. I am feeling forced just to go trade-in my phone for an iPhone X which I would probably not enjoy just because I am mad at Samsung.
Only two colors available are purple and blue/yellow. Neither are for me.
Great Info
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Each to their own on what they spend their money on but it really is quite the waste if you've got a Note 8.
I don't need a source for the S-Pen charging, I'm an electronics engineer, I design these things for a living. The S-Pen will not have a battery, it'll have a small super capacitor inside that'll get a burst of induction current from the phones battery, which will then gradually deplete over a few minutes till the phone has to give it another burst of current.
Depending on how often you use the BLE stuff throughout a day you'll likely see battery life no better than the Note 8. It's only another 700mA of juice. 5-6 gulps from the S-Pen throughout the day and you'll see very little to no difference between the 2 devices.
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I see your point and I thank you for it though, honestly. I am still getting the note 9 though.
Thanks all.