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Howdy all, hope it's fine to post my next-gen Sony tablet thread here. I've owned my Sony tablet for about 2 months now and love it, but as with everything there is always room for improvement. I ran across another site that posed the question of how you'd change the Sony Tablet S, and I thought I'd share my thoughts I posted there with everyone here:
. I think it may be a good move for Sony to introduce both an entry level and ultra high end version for their 2012 tablet. I'll admit that I haven't given too much thought into what the entry level tablet should have and my list below would be mostly geared towards the ultra high end tablet. I won't lie here, I know that some of my suggestions would increase the cost of the tablet significantly, but one can stil dream
SIMPLE THINGS:
- Gorilla Glass over the screen. Despite my efforts I did manage to get a light scratch on the screen before I was able to obtain the Sony screen protector.
- Increase stock battery life. The great thing that Sony has going for it compared to other tablets is that their folded magazine format gives them a lot more space to play with, so why not toss in a larger battery. I don't mean a monster battery or anything, but just something that can put it firmly on the level of the competition or maybe even slightly ahead.
- Add 1-2 full size USB ports. The tablet is thick enough to allow full size USB ports so why not? I have the micro USB adpater and while it works just fine, I would like the convenience of a full size port.
- Add a mini HDMI connector. I know Sony is pushing for DLNA usage instead, but I think it's all about giving the customers the option to use what they want. Not to mention with all the Playstation games and whatnot it'd be wonderful to be able to output to a larger screen.
- Improve the SD card interactions by letting you play directly from the default apps rather than having to search for third party programs.
- The universal remote is great already, but adding some features like being able to have a master power switch to turn on multiple devices like a Harmony remote would be nice.
-Improve the speakers. The speakers are currently located in a position where your hands could easily want to cover them up when holding it in landscape mode. I say place them higher up towards the thick end of the unit on either side. Not to mention I have to imagine that placing them in a thicker portion will give them a chance to put in larger, better speakers. One complaint I have is when I'm out with friends and there's a moderate level of ambient sounds, we can't hear a damn thing that comes out of the tablets speakers. Because of this I've had to purchase an external speaker for those occasions.
-Add a flash for the cameras. I don't see why they couldn't put in a proper flash for the rear camera and an LED flash for the front facing camera. Or hell, put in an actual flash and an LED flash for the rear facing camera to give the user an option just because a normal flash is likely to use up a lot of battery power.
-Add haptic feedback. I personally like being able to get some sort of feedback when typing or playing games.
-Either add support for the Playstation controllers to wirelessly connect, or start selling a dedicated tablet controller that can connect via Bluetooth.
-More accessories. Sony (at least here in Canada) sells accessories like keyboards and whatnot for the tablet, but nothing that would let you transport them all together. I propose better carrying cases for those would choose to purchase all their equipment. Maybe also something like the Kensington Keyfolio case where you can have the tablet and keyboard all in one case for those who want the notebook experience. Sure you have the third party market out there to cover most of this, but it'd still be nice to see items like this directly from Sony.
MORE COMPLEX STUFF:
-Add a projector to the tablet. Sony has a line up of Handycams that have a built in projector on the rear of the LCD panel. They can project up to a 60" image just fine. This tells us that the tech has been miniturized enough to easily be installed on a tablet so the only real question is how would this affect battery life. This particular option would REALLY help seperate the Sony tablet from the others as you would no longer need a TV if you wanted to watch a movie or play a game on a larger screen, just a way to prop up the tablet (another accessory idea), a wall and a darkened room.
-An accessory that's an expandable battery pack would be wonderful. With a minimal amount of redesigning I think it would be possible to create an additional battery that simply snaps into place on the current form factor. Simply make it long and thin enough to cover that silver portion on the bottom rear of the unit so that it doesn't ruin the slanted feel of the unit when it's sitting flat and a battery that size could potentially double the life of the unit. Now of course I'm not an expert in battery design, so I don't know if there would be techological limitations here.
-Dump a ton of money into the software to make it simpler and more user friendly. Presumably this is something they're already working on not only for the tablet but most of their product line, so we'll see how that all works out.
-A Bravia engine. They managed to put a Bravia engine into the Arc phone, so I have to wonder how a Bravia engine might help improve the tablet.
-Get with the curve of technology rather than being behind it. The Sony tablet was released pretty much right up near the launch of Tegra 3 tablets. I REALLY hope Sony doesn't wait an entire year to launch the next tablet and instead tries to push for a spring release so they can go head to head with the likes of Samsung and Apple. Otherwise they'll always be viewed as trailing them rather than competing.
agree with yours plus I would
1) add reverse landscape orientation/4-axes sensor
2) add three more buttons on the left hand side same way we have power,vol up and down on the right so that we could remap them freely to back, home, menu or settings or search, etc. maybe have another place for smaller volume controls somewhere at the bottom
3) add usb charging
4) find a way to have physical playstation controls for gaming
5) make it thinner at the top
6) foldable screen cover turning into a stand
7) xloud - i seem to remember seeing it in the settings but cannot find it again - maybe i'm confusing it with xperia play's settings
Only used the tablet for a couple of hours now.
I hate the charging cord, it's a totally brain dead decision to not use a micro USB port for charging.
The edges need a bit more rounding off, holding the thin edge with the left hand and you can feel it dig in a bit.
Support for larger SDXC cards. Supposed to be able to format certain ones to fat32 and get them to work.
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Support for larger SDXC cards. Supposed to be able to format certain ones to fat32 and get them to work.
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I can confirm 64Gb micro sd card using sd card adapter worked and saw other people here had success with 128GB SD card. Hope it helps you
I hope USB charging will be a firmware fix - I remember PSP's originally could not be charged via USB but then there was an update or a workaround.
Im pretty sure the tablet comes with a screen protector on it. Mine definitely looks like it anyway. I know some other devices come like this as well (the Triumph for instance).
I'd add HDMI out to this device. Make it lighter and less hollow sounding (plastic is okay), improve the back camera (add flash and more adjustable settings), add haptic feedback, improve wifi sleep issues, add PS3 controller connectivity (its already available to rooted users in the market), and finally allow 360 degree rotation by default.
I like the wedge shape, the hidden usb plug, the charger and charging speed, the hidden led notification light, the recessed power and volime buttons, and the two tone black and silver coloring. The color and viewing angles on the screen are amazing.
Id like to note that pushing 2.9 amps through USB would be quite a lot considering normal PC plugs only do 500 mA or 0.5 amps. USB seems like a no brainer until you actually take into consideration the charging time at half an amp. You can push more but the metal starts heating up at that point and you have to add more custom pins for only power (see the Nook Color @ only 1.8amps). Also the thin width of the usb plug does not make it ideal for the structural integrity of the plug on a device that you are going to be moving around.
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Hmm, I just thought about an accessory I think would be wonderful. One of my friends who has the Tablet S also recently got the rooCase Executive Portfolio case which can be found on ebay. It's a lovely case that I'm thinking about getting myself, but my idea is what about the manufacturer making a case like that, but integrating an expandable battery into the case? I mean in something like this you're already adding a fair bit of bulk and some weight to the unit, so why not go the extra mile and add another battery in the case that can double your overall battery life? I know I'd definately buy one if it existed.
access to removable sd card
I would love to be able to access the removeable sd card when attached via the usb to my pc. all I can see is the internal memory.
Also it is a PAIN that songs videos etc are not discovered by the music and video apps.
Otherwise not a bad tablet.
My wishlist:
Much brighter LED that blinks more than once every 10 seconds
Capacitive touch buttons with optional onscreen buttons (like the OnePlusOne), as long as it doesn't increase the size of the bottom bezel.
More powerful IR blaster
Less logos on the front and back
Wireless charging out of the box
Fingerprint scanner on back power button that works as well as the iPhone fingerprint scanner (with option to use knock code too)
Shrink the bezels even more (if possible) while still keeping a 5.5" screen.
SlimPort doesn't work on older TV's. I would rather the phone support MHL. Both, if possible. Or, even better, a microHDMI port on the bottom.
Still have a replaceable battery but try and squeeze an even bigger mah battery into it, even if the phone is slightly thicker.
Agree with all of these.
Add:
An unlocked bootloader for all variants straight out of the box.
On the battery; at least a 3500 mAh
Physically, my only major gripe would be the bottom bezel with LG logo. Cut that thing off, make it as thin as the sides are. Since Verizon was so kind to place there logo on the front, well they found a perfect place where to put the LG logo and no longer giving Verizon any room... big red, always has to have there hands in something!
Other then that, maybe improve the IR Sensor a bit.
Have the latest Snapdragon 810 or anything new that comes out Q1 2015.
3GB RAM minimum.
32GB ROM Minimum.
Keep 1440p.
5.5-5.7", I love IPS, but AMOLED keeps getting popular, but I'm not sure if they should switch over yet.
Same physical bottom placement of course, I love them!
I don't really care MP on camera, these days there all quite well, it could stay at 13, I wouldn't care.
Then the usual OS updates. They are on the right path, tweak it down a bit, keep it more traditional and stock lollipop feel and improve on current LG specific features. I really wish i could turn the double tap screen on or off with stock OS. Stuff like that.
Mystikalrush said:
I don't really care MP on camera, these days there all quite well, it could stay at 13, I wouldn't care.
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I wish they would keep it at 13 or even less and just work on better quality. The iPhone has an excellent camera at just 8mp.
But, it doesn't look like LG is going that route. I just read the G4 is going to bump the megapixels up to 20. To me, that just means a lot bigger jpeg's that probably aren't going to look any better than much smaller 8mp pictures.
Agree with everything you said. 3500 mAh. Assuming Q1 2015, 3 GHz Snapdragon 210 or 215, or Tegra K2. Anything 64-bit. 3GB (fast) ram , Adreno 400+, keep 1440p, anything higher really useless unless you're going for 10.1 in IMO.
Also, GUARANTEED UPDATES WITHIN 70DAYS FOR 2 YRS!
When I heard that the G3 had lasers, I had a totally different idea in my head. I hope the G4 is more lethal.
Thicker and use a larger (3600mAh?) battery. The thickness with my case on is just perfect.
LaTropa64 said:
My wishlist:
Capacitive touch buttons with optional onscreen buttons (like the OnePlusOne), as long as it doesn't increase the size of the bottom bezel.
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Definitely disagree with this one. The lack of capacitive buttons was one of the major factors in my decision to get the G3. Want capacitive buttons? Get an M8.
ylexot said:
Definitely disagree with this one. The lack of capacitive buttons was one of the major factors in my decision to get the G3. Want capacitive buttons? Get an M8.
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Get an m8... Which doesn't have capacitive buttons?
Just don't jump on the giant phone bandwagon. The size of the G3 is just right.
eallan said:
Get an m8... Which doesn't have capacitive buttons?
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My bad. I thought it has the same capacitive buttons on the huge black bar that the original HTC One had. So they got rid of the buttons and kept the bar. :silly:
Maybe have smaller bezel same size screen. Maybe a brighter screen(not an issue for me but many complained)
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Ability to turn the lg g4 into a gpad with 16:9 aspect ratio. Ability to turn that into a laptop with keyboard dock that dual boots chrome OS and also have hdmi out for larger display.
Now that a BNIB Nexus 6 (not 6p) is $300, I am getting the itch to swap my XZU for one. The N6 has a slightly faster processor, thinner bezels, higher screen resolution, more RAM, better camera (with flash), bigger battery, and oleophobic gorilla glass 3 instead of a plastic screen protector with non-oleophobic glass underneath. But I love my unique XZU with its bigger (non AMOLED) screen, thinner body, SD card slot, and water resistance.
Am I crazy to switch, or is the N6 a worthy successor at its current price? I'm guessing it'd cost around $100 to switch (sell the XZU for $200ish).
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Now that a BNIB Nexus 6 (not 6p) is $300, I am getting the itch to swap my XZU for one. The N6 has a slightly faster processor, thinner bezels, higher screen resolution, more RAM, better camera (with flash), bigger battery, and oleophobic gorilla glass 3 instead of a plastic screen protector with non-oleophobic glass underneath. But I love my unique XZU with its bigger (non AMOLED) screen, thinner body, SD card slot, and water resistance.
Am I crazy to switch, or is the N6 a worthy successor at its current price? I'm guessing it'd cost around $100 to switch (sell the XZU for $200ish).
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I wouldn't make such a switch (and I have tried the N6). It is a better idea to keep the Ultra until new Snapdragon 820 based devices with bigger screens are out.
To me, the smaller display and limited storage are the key deal breakers and despite the benefits of higher screen resolution, I haven't been happy with the color reproduction on some N6s I have been trying.
From my point of view, there are no device which can fully replace the Ultra just yet. There are devices that better some parameters (such as higher display resolution and a better camera) but it usually falls back on areas such as display size or developer support and so forth.
What I would recommend is rather to keep the Ultra and see if Sony introduces a Z5 Tablet Compact, which could work as a direct replacement (I have decided to get an 8 inch device as a replacement when something with Snapdragon 820, 4 GB RAM, 2K or 4K display etc is in the market).
After I saw the nasty screen burn, I'dstay away from AMOLED.
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After I saw the nasty screen burn, I'dstay away from AMOLED.
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Also, you know how most smokers' teeth go from white to yellow after some years? Yup, same with AMOLED. Sure, it looks pretty, but that beauty doesn't last.
Dat goddamn AMOLED. Dim and red-tinted as hell. You wouldn't want that. Even as a Nexus fan I deem it my most disliked Nexus phone.
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If i had to buy a new phone today i would def buy a nexus 6 for $300. Fortunately i dont though, and i am quite happy with my nearly 2 year old 6806. Until it dies, is stolen, is broken or there is a REAL replacement for it, it reamins with me on the daily!
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Now that a BNIB Nexus 6 (not 6p) is $300, I am getting the itch to swap my XZU for one. The N6 has a slightly faster processor, thinner bezels, higher screen resolution, more RAM, better camera (with flash), bigger battery, and oleophobic gorilla glass 3 instead of a plastic screen protector with non-oleophobic glass underneath. But I love my unique XZU with its bigger (non AMOLED) screen, thinner body, SD card slot, and water resistance.
Am I crazy to switch, or is the N6 a worthy successor at its current price? I'm guessing it'd cost around $100 to switch (sell the XZU for $200ish).
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I already did the switch. Ill write another post about this.
Im getting the 64 GB version Nexus 6. Cant wait to try it out. Its the only good 6 coll phablet out there.
Currently I use Z Ultra as LTE tablet on mobile broadband ($10/5GB) and it works.
Unfortunately, it's impossible to find comparable 7" tablet with decent spec.
I am recently own both of them.
The next phone in my plan is Moto X Style.
(Until the customROMs up and Price down.)
I personally think updating from SD 800 to SD 805 is very incremental in nature(benchmark scores support this idea) I'm waiting for z5 ultra or some other phablet with snapdragon 820 and quadHD screen and 4Gb of RAM. I will wait until its a year old and then I will buy that phone. I will make sure that there are a lot of developers for that phone in XDA before buying ?. My phone hits 39k in antutu, if SD 820 hits 75k it will truly be an upgrade.
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Got a Nexus 6 now. Rooted it, installed CM12.
A few points:
1. Installing custom roms and Bootloader unlocking is easier than in Z ultra.
2 Gorilla Glass feels smooth, amoled is really great.
3 Camera on Nexus 6 is great. However, its better in stock rom than in CM12.
4. Very smooth. No stutters at all.
Well I currently own a Z Ultra. And recently bought a Nexus 6. I must say its a real pleasure to use the Nexus 6.. Minus the screen size, it is superior in every way.. The speaker is fantastic, developer support is there and still growing, screen with correct calibration u can achieve IPS colour quality, no yellowish/pinkish tint. Camera miles better. Battery a little better. A little better processing power.
Dun get me wrong, I love the Z Ultra, its a absolutely beautiful device and I am definitely going to keep it. But for me I could never really get used to it as a phone. Its simply too big... Development is slowing down as well. Speaker is really a joke.
The lack of a micro SDHC card slot and smaller screen killed the older nexus 6 for me.
The only real negative for me about the XZU is the speaker. Lack of flash is minor issue. After far no complaints.
If there's a Z5 ultra, I'll buy it if it's faster with more RAM and better battery life, and keeps the magnetic charge connector or replaces it with Qi, and keeps the card slot, has decent speakers and new better camera with flash.
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The lack of a micro SDHC card slot and smaller screen killed the older nexus 6 for me.
The only real negative for me about the XZU is the speaker. Lack of flash is minor issue. After far no complaints.
If there's a Z5 ultra, I'll buy it if it's faster with more RAM and better battery life, and keeps the magnetic charge connector or replaces it with Qi, and keeps the card slot, has decent speakers and new better camera with flash.
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It will definitely have a faster CPU, which will be the S820. It will probably have 3-4GB of RAM, battery probably around 3500mAh, no magnetic charging connector, and no Qi. What makes me say these things?
The first 820-devices will hit the market in Q1 2016, so it will most certainly have it too. The Z5 has 3GB of RAM, so it'll probably have 3GB, unless they bump it up to 4, but Sony has never been the OEM who throws a lot of RAM into their devices, like Samsung. So I'll say 3GB, but maybe 4.
The magnetic charger is gone from the Z3+, Z5 and Z5C (Z1, Z2, Z3 had it), so it looks like they're done with the magnetic connector, and it doesn't exist a single Sony product with Qi, or any other wireless charging, so I'd say that that's also a no-go.
But all we can do now is to speculate, so yeah, who knows.
yeah, I know wireless charging is unlikely. I can't understand why Sony didn't adopt it to replace the mag charge coupler. However, one problem with the mag coupler is that if you use a cable rather than a dock, you can attach it the wrong way round, which is down to stupidity plain and simple!
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yeah, I know wireless charging is unlikely. I can't understand why Sony didn't adopt it to replace the mag charge coupler. However, one problem with the mag coupler is that if you use a cable rather than a dock, you can attach it the wrong way round, which is down to stupidity plain and simple!
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Yup, I managed to plug it in the wrong way into the dock ones and I almost screamed. Nothing was damaged though, but I know a couple of people around here haven't been that lucky. The most annoying thing with a regular USB cable is the plugging, especially when when there's a flap there too. Let's hope there is a Z Ultra 5, or something though. Would love to have it with a better camera and smaller bezels.
To clarify, I meant it's a stupid design, not stupid people doing it. I only connected mine once the other way accidentally for a split second and the phone instantly turned off, luckily not damaged.
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To clarify, I meant it's a stupid design, not stupid people doing it. I only connected mine once the other way accidentally for a split second and the phone instantly turned off, luckily not damaged.
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Haha, yeah I got that. It's just too easy to connect it the wrong way, and once that happens.. well.. bad things might happen, well, bad thing WILL happen. I had the same experience as you. Connected it wrong for a split second, pulled it off and what I got was a blinking red LED above the screen, rebooted and it was all fine again. Crappy design? Very. But it's more annoying to open the USB flap and connect the charger every night, in my opinion.
Hi, about 1mm on the left side of my display no longer response to touch, all other parts of screen work just fine, but this makes typing dificult and I don't have money to either buy new phone or getting it repaired(cost about the same). So is there a way to either increase the left side border or apply a custom border that will stay there in all apps and keyboards and basically moving screen to the right 1mm. Or a custom launcher that could add this feature?
This happened after I added tempered glass(supplied with the phone) to my phone, and even after removing the tempered glass problem persists.
I just need a solution untill I have money to to get it repaired or buy a new one.
My phone is Firefly Mobile Intense Desire, 5.5" screen 1280x720 IPS, 3GB ram 32GB ROM, 3550mAh battery, Android 5.1 Google Now launcher - not rooted - best phone I have ever had.
Hope for a quick response - before I go nuts
Jan
Hi!
I have a PX3 unit with MCU HA 3.40 (not a dasaita one, maybe a clone) and it has 6.2 screen with a 800x480 resolution. I "got tired" of this screen, it is small, I am getting older , and I would like to replace it with a bigger one , 7 inch or 9 or 10.1 and with better resolution of course, 1024x600. I can made mods, I am just asking for some advise and sourses of knowledge which is plenty in this forum and thanks in advance for it!
I removed the front panel of the HU. It is connected to the main board with a ribbon. The front panel has an electronic sircuit and the lcd and touch screen is connected to it. I found that the lcd panel is 60 pins and the touch screen is 6 pins. On the back of the front panel there an electronic panel with the circuits and chips of the physical buttons (not touch buttons) and there is also a 40 pin connector (empty) and the lcd screen has a 2 pin cable with red and black color.
I saw some youtube videos of disassembling some new cheap car units with 1024x600 resolution, one with a 7 inch 40 pins ribbon and one with a 10.1 inch 60 pins ribbon and the 2 pins cable. So am thinking either of buying one of them and replace all the front panel or buy only the lcd and the touch panel and make a new "cover" for my car unit .... I don't bother with the physical buttons, I 'll find a way or modding them... But I have some questions:
1. Are these lcd panels and touch screens of the new cheap car units combatible with my unit?
2. Is my 40 pin connector working on MY unit or only the 60 pins one?
3. Is the 6 pin touch screen a "universal" common interface for these car units?
4. What is this 2 pin red/black cable? power for what?
I attach some fotos of my unit. Every suggestion is welcome!
image of HU
electronic sircuit of front panel
LCD screen model
touch screen
Reply with an update if you sent ahead with the screen swap. I'm also curious if they are cross compatible? I have a 9inch 8227L Demo and the gps antenna wasn't working so the seller sent me the same model headunit but with a 10inch screen and upon hooking up the 10inch, Amp chip wasn't connected right or it was faulty. Anyways my plan now was to swap the 9inch working headunits screen with the 10inch. All the connections look the same and if I can swap out the board from the 9 and put it in the ten I will. I just haven't found to much info about it I can or not... Another idea I had was maybe try to disconnect the amp chip from the 9inch and solder it into the 10inch? Do you have any ideas if either of those ideas would work ?
Thanks in advance!
Have you tried to re-solder the pins on the amp?
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Have you tried to re-solder the pins on the amp?
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No I've yet to try that. The reason being is because it looks as if the one pin that wasn't touching the board (or soldered incorrectly to begin with...) Shorted out and that pin/leg looks a little burnt now. Also it looks as if maybe possibly there wasn't enough Thermal Conductive paste too?? Just a guess though. ?