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How do you know if you have the stock firmware on your phone.
By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
zephiK said:
By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
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I have done root, clock mod, AP mod, and changed the boot animation. The reason I was asking is I was just curious so I would know if I will get the OTA updates.
geocepe said:
I have done root, clock mod, AP mod, and changed the boot animation. The reason I was asking is I was just curious so I would know if I will get the OTA updates.
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What you asked previously was "STOCK" firmware. If you haven't flashed a ROM then you're on "STOCK" firmware but you did modify some parts of it with MobileAP so I don't know how that would play about.
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IF I ROOT, WILL I GET OTA UPDATES?
Yes. Rooting will not prevent this, unless you flash a custom ROM that will block receiving the OTA update. If you do receive and download the OTA update, you will lose root. Typically within hours of the OTA becoming available, thanks to some fine XDA folks you can get the update WITH root. You would simply need to download and flash the update like a normal ROM.
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Even if you dont get OTA, you wouldn't want it anyway because OTA gives the update to people in GROUPS and not every single person gets the update at the same time. So you can get yours two weeks after the first batch got the update. When a OTA is released, somebody will post the link for rooted and non-rooted users to manually push the update. So there isn't a need for OTA. Just look around the forum for it when its actually out.
zephiK said:
What you asked previously was "STOCK" firmware. If you haven't flashed a ROM then you're on "STOCK" firmware but you did modify some parts of it with MobileAP so I don't know how that would play about.
Simple Solution.. its on the stickied post
Even if you dont get OTA, you wouldn't want it anyway because OTA gives the update to people in GROUPS and not every single person gets the update at the same time. So you can get yours two weeks after the first batch got the update. When a OTA is released, somebody will post the link for rooted and non-rooted users to manually push the update. So there isn't a need for OTA. Just look around the forum for it when its actually out.
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Thank you for the info. Sorry I didnt word it correctly to begin with.
geocepe said:
Thank you for the info. Sorry I didnt word it correctly to begin with.
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Yeah it just seemed weird asking if you have stock or not. It honestly doesn't really matter because in the end, you're still going to get the update even if it isn't OTA.. you'll just end up manually pushing it which is better than OTAing.
zephiK said:
Yeah it just seemed weird asking if you have stock or not. It honestly doesn't really matter because in the end, you're still going to get the update even if it isn't OTA.. you'll just end up manually pushing it which is better than OTAing.
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Its funny. The people you talk to in this forum know more than the people you talk to at the manufacturers. You have a great point in that i shouldnt care. Thanks again for the info
geocepe said:
Its funny. The people you talk to in this forum know more than the people you talk to at the manufacturers. You have a great point in that i shouldnt care. Thanks again for the info
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That's because for them its a chore but to justify it they get paid. Here, we do it because its something we actually ENJOY doing (well.. not all of us like to help people) and we're more enthusiastic.
I never deal with customer support unless its something out of my hands.
When you flash simple mods like MobileAP or a new Battery icon, will it pose problems when you update, say to Froyo in the future?
zephiK said:
By not flashing any other ROMs?
.. what kind of question is this?
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I can see how he can get confused. I was a little when I 1st started paying attention to the whole Android scene.
Stock could mean a few different things to different people.
1. Stock = NOTHING CHANGED period at all. not even mods.
2. Stock = Rom that shipped with the phone with a few mods
3. Stock = A flashed "true stock" rom
4. Stock = an Google Android STOCK rom aka AOSP
I still go by the saying that their is no stupid questions just stupid answers.
another thing, thanks for at least posting this in the correct forum haha. A lot of the other members get really PEEVED when they see postings in the wrong area.
richan90 said:
When you flash simple mods like MobileAP or a new Battery icon, will it pose problems when you update, say to Froyo in the future?
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I wouldn't think that it would cause any issues updating to 2.2 with mods like the battery icon. I'm unsure of the MobileAP though cause 2.2 has it built in. I would prob remove that to be safe before you update. I'm still learning too so lets wait till a more seasoned member could give ya a better answer.
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I can see how he can get confused. I was a little when I 1st started paying attention to the whole Android scene.
Stock could mean a few different things to different people.
1. Stock = NOTHING CHANGED period at all. not even mods.
2. Stock = Rom that shipped with the phone with a few mods
3. Stock = A flashed "true stock" rom
4. Stock = an Google Android STOCK rom aka AOSP
I still go by the saying that their is no stupid questions just stupid answers.
another thing, thanks for at least posting this in the correct forum haha. A lot of the other members get really PEEVED when they see postings in the wrong area.
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Thanks for the input. Im real new at this but Im starting to catch on. The group of people on this forum are real helpful.
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I wouldn't think that it would cause any issues updating to 2.2 with mods like the battery icon. I'm unsure of the MobileAP though cause 2.2 has it built in. I would prob remove that to be safe before you update. I'm still learning too so lets wait till a more seasoned member could give ya a better answer.
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2.1 has it built in too.. its just the U.S. versions of the Galaxy S has it removed because of the carrier.
Just think of "STOCK ROM" as the default ROM without any modifications. That's the best explanation of it.
Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Should i keep this Rom for any reason?
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Not necessarily. There are advantages to moving to a custom rom. Look over relevant stickies (at the top of subsections), review the OP of roms, read user feedback, then decide.
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so. With some minor tweaks (removal of bloatware, mostly) and the right apps, stock is working just fine for me. I'll wait until we have ICS source and some new ROMs based on it before I go custom.
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
Miami_Son said:
I rooted and expected to go to a custom ROM at some point, but as of yet there has been no compelling reason to do so.
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LiLChris06 said:
Only reason to keep a backup is for showing people the before and after.
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Actually until the download site problem is completely resolved, it doesn't hurt to root, then make a backup of the stock ROM to keep just in case. If you do need it, then you've got it, and it doesn't take that much space.
Yeah, considering how often download sites go boom nowadays, keeping a local backup is probably a good idea.
Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Not sure if this question can even be answered yet, but I too am looking to root, but keep the stock ROM. I just got my i777 4 days ago and am wondering, if I root... will that, in any way, change the upgrading process to official ICS (I'm aware I may have to re-root once I update)?
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Once you start removing things after root you will probably not be able to get any official updates. This is true of the current GB update available for the i777 (KH7). Removal of bloatware will cause the update to fail.
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Going back to stock is a download and Odin away.
Then you can go to the magical Official ICS that will probably not come out anytime soon.
I'm going to wait until the end of march since that is officially when Samsung says they will have it for the galaxy series. Now I know that doesn't mean squat what with carrier delays and all that crap that slows the update process down,
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
butikofer08 said:
For what it is worth(nothing) an ATT manager told me he heard the 3rd or 4th, but If it's not by the end of "late first quarter" i'll be rooting. Just doesn't feel necessary right now since I just got this phone...by the time I get bored with it hopefully official ICS and corresponding root directions will be out.
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That manager wanted your money.
How come this phone is out for over 1month now and there are no custom roms for it? Referring to the G850F European version here.
I want to get this phone so bad, but having to deal with fail touchwiz will make me sick... I want a proper slim rom on it
S37hhh said:
How come this phone is out for over 1month now and there are no custom roms for it? Referring to the G850F European version here.
I want to get this phone so bad, but having to deal with fail touchwiz will make me sick... I want a proper slim rom on it
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Nothing yet brother. We are all waiting for some Devs to get interested in this phone so we can do the Root, Rom, Recovery thing! Samsung screwed it up by making it exclusive to ATT when the popularity could of gone higher if it were in more wireless companies! Thanx Samsung! Just give it time. The phone just came out and hopefully a Dev will jump on this phone soon!
I will soon buy this phone!!! In greece is unlocked to any carrier and almost every shop sells it...i hope they change the AT&T thing fast!!
I have bought this phone with the hope that cyanogenmod arrives on this device. Maybe the problem that blocks the interest of developers is the chipset exynos 5430...
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I have bought this phone with the hope that cyanogenmod arrives on this device. Maybe the problem that blocks the interest of developers is the chipset exynos 5430...
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yaa ,you're absolutely right thay said that will not supported exynos cpu any more(reaseon knox)
hensk said:
yaa ,you're absolutely right thay said that will not supported exynos cpu any more(reaseon knox)
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Samsung devices with snapdragon have no knox?
hensk said:
yaa ,you're absolutely right thay said that will not supported exynos cpu any more(reaseon knox)
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Strong dislike!
Sent from my SM-G850F using XDA Free mobile app
Time will tell, but how is started ...hmmmm
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yaa ,you're absolutely right thay said that will not supported exynos cpu any more(reaseon knox)
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But who cares about knox? It's just some useless "feature" that makes no sense (booting on a different OS to keep your data "secure" wtf is that bs about really...) and warranty void is nothing to be afraid of, if u have a perfectly functioning device you won't need the warranty... just want a fking custom rom to get rid of bloatware-touchwiz and make it all black and awesome ...screw knox!
I make contact with edenmony,m8 who like to make rom for us
this is his answer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56209236&postcount=23
we must try to find help if we wont ROM recovery come to us
I also try contact with Note4 m8,who develop Recoveryfor exynos model
but still dont get reply
What happened to the threads in the developer sections?
there no development thread at all m8,only chit chat
Correct. There were a couple in there but they were deleted. Just wondering why. I understand no actual ROM's are available but there were discussions.
AFAIK they were moved under "General". It was just "Join Forces" and "Root Galaxy Alpha" threads. I don't remember that there were any other threads.
hensk said:
I make contact with edenmony,m8 who like to make rom for us
this is his answer http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56209236&postcount=23
we must try to find help if we wont ROM recovery come to us
I also try contact with Note4 m8,who develop Recoveryfor exynos model
but still dont get reply
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But can't we flash it with Clockwork ROM Manager app ?
We already have the root available and we can then install the ROM Manager.apk and flash a rom with that ... I think/hope.
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AFAIK they were moved under "General". It was just "Join Forces" and "Root Galaxy Alpha" threads. I don't remember that there were any other threads.
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Ah OK
S37hhh said:
But can't we flash it with Clockwork ROM Manager app ?
We already have the root available and we can then install the ROM Manager.apk and flash a rom with that ... I think/hope.
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what are you think ,i didnt do that first day when i got the phone I did everything what I know ,but this is it
my firend no offical CWR for us..we can try to find help on other forums for CWR,then we can have custom roms
Jaybell4444 said:
Nothing yet brother. We are all waiting for some Devs to get interested in this phone so we can do the Root, Rom, Recovery thing! Samsung screwed it up by making it exclusive to ATT when the popularity could of gone higher if it were in more wireless companies! Thanx Samsung! Just give it time. The phone just came out and hopefully a Dev will jump on this phone soon!
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guys ..i will make a recovery for you all ... please provide me the boot.img , recovery.img and build.prop .... as soon as possible
Decided not to buy one anymore, not worth it since I will just be getting annoyed at Samsung's TouchWiz... Will recheck forum in 1month or so near Black Friday and see if there's anything new.
Till then, I wish you gl, it's a great phone (perfect form factor) but the OS on it is utter fail and I wouldn't last a day, would be switching to my S2 with SlimSaber ROM in a glimpse
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Decided not to buy one anymore, not worth it since I will just be getting annoyed at Samsung's TouchWiz... Will recheck forum in 1month or so near Black Friday and see if there's anything new.
Till then, I wish you gl, it's a great phone (perfect form factor) but the OS on it is utter fail and I wouldn't last a day, would be switching to my S2 with SlimSaber ROM in a glimpse
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just use a different launcher and voilà... thats how I managed to get rid of the most annoying things by samsung touch..
I've done a **** ton of research for about 2 months now, and have come up with this
1) Verizon/AT&T/Samsung are the worst companies in existence.
2) I'm doomed to have ****ty lollipop for the rest of my S4's existence.
3) Unlocking the bootloader is completely impossible as of what I've read.
4) Not a lot is said about the S4 anymore, since it's so old.
Anyway. I'm trying to collect info for the S4, since jumping from thread to thread for hours on end is giving me a headache. My questions are
1) Has ANYONE come close to unlocking the bootloader on an S4 as of June 2016
2) If not, Has anyone come close to getting Cyanogen 13 working with safestrap? Or a varient of Cyanogen? (I know it doesnt work because it needs to be TouchWiz based)
3) If Cyanogen 13 ( Or a touchwiz variant) doesn't work. Is there a safestrap compatible rom that looks/feels like marshmallow?
4) If THAT isn't a thing. Can I make one?
Sorry If I'm breaking any rules (I'm about 99% sure I'm not but like to apologize anyway), but I am really tired of jumping forums, getting a headache, and ripping my hair out, just to hardbrick my phone. Thanks!
Edit: I have the Verizon S4 (I545). Should've mentioned that My bad.
If you researched hard enough to give yourself a headache how did you manage to not notice a post of this same question in the last week inside of the official Unlocking the Bootloader thread.
Matthew M. said:
If you researched hard enough to give yourself a headache how did you manage to not notice a post of this same question in the last week inside of the official Unlocking the Bootloader thread.
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I did see that, and read through it. But, unless I'm blind/stupid, It never said how to unlock the bootloader. Just discussed what we can do to figure it out.
Phikicheli said:
I did see that, and read through it. But, unless I'm blind/stupid, It never said how to unlock the bootloader. Just discussed what we can do to figure it out.
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Exactly.
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Exactly.
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Yeah. But I asked some other questions as well. I didn't know if anyone knew something but didn't see that last post.
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Yeah. But I asked some other questions as well. I didn't know if anyone knew something but didn't see that last post.
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There's your answer. It hasn't been unlocked, and it will most likely not be unlocked as all devs have given up.
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Exactly.
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XxD34THxX said:
There's your answer. It hasn't been unlocked, and it will most likely not be unlocked as all devs have given up.
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But what about my other questions?
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But what about my other questions?
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They have been answered already.
1) Has ANYONE come close to unlocking the bootloader on an S4 as of June 2016
Nope
2) If not, Has anyone come close to getting Cyanogen 13 working with safestrap? Or a varient of Cyanogen? (I know it doesnt work because it needs to be TouchWiz based)
Nope, as stated by yourself above, it needs to be TW based, and there is no way that can happen.
3) If Cyanogen 13 ( Or a touchwiz variant) doesn't work. Is there a safestrap compatible rom that looks/feels like marshmallow?
The last AOSP type ROM was kitpop, which is at lollipop. Due to Samsung messing with ART, the dev attempting to do so had to abort as the changes could not be negated
4) If THAT isn't a thing. Can I make one?
Theoretically... @npjohnson would be the one to ask for help if you think you could do it.
XxD34THxX said:
1) Has ANYONE come close to unlocking the bootloader on an S4 as of June 2016
Nope
2) If not, Has anyone come close to getting Cyanogen 13 working with safestrap? Or a varient of Cyanogen? (I know it doesnt work because it needs to be TouchWiz based)
Nope, as stated by yourself above, it needs to be TW based, and there is no way that can happen.
3) If Cyanogen 13 ( Or a touchwiz variant) doesn't work. Is there a safestrap compatible rom that looks/feels like marshmallow?
The last AOSP type ROM was kitpop, which is at lollipop. Due to Samsung messing with ART, the dev attempting to do so had to abort as the changes could not be negated
4) If THAT isn't a thing. Can I make one?
Theoretically... @npjohnson would be the one to ask for help if you think you could do it.
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Thank you for actually being helpful!
Hello, there is a way to root this phone???
I want to unlock it.
Thanks
luisypica said:
Hello, there is a way to root this phone???
I want to unlock it.
Thanks
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When you did your search on XDA, did you find your answer?
Ramer said:
When you did your search on XDA, did you find your answer?
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NO, I didn´t find anything, that´s why I am asking for.
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NO, I didn´t find anything, that´s why I am asking for.
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Hmm, it's posted ALL OVER XDA. The Sprint S8+ has a locked bootloader. As of now, we don't have root.
Ramer said:
Hmm, it's posted ALL OVER XDA. The Sprint S8+ has a locked bootloader. As of now, we don't have root.
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Many phone with locked bootloaders has root. I know is hardest than unlocked bootloaders but is not impossible.
I hope will be as soon as possible.
Thanks
luisypica said:
Hello, there is a way to root this phone???
I want to unlock it.
Thanks
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Here you go.
here it is,
https://www.oneclickroot.com/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s8/
lol
94tbird said:
here it is,
lol
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I wonder if it's going to brick a Snapdragon S8 or will it just not work. That site doesn't even mention the two types of chipsets, at least not that I found on a quick reading.
94tbird said:
here it is,
https://www.oneclickroot.com/samsung/samsung-galaxy-s8/
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This is a paid option and not for developer types like us. I am not convinced they support our USA model 955U anyway.
I would think Chainfire might come out with something like happened with S7 Edge. We shall see. Been 3 weeks.
photolarry said:
This is a paid option and not for developer types like us. I am not convinced they support our USA model 955U anyway.
I would think Chainfire might come out with something like happened with S7 Edge. We shall see. Been 3 weeks.
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Think you missed the "lol" portion if my post
So I have been doing some research and the same kind of issue was occurring with the S7/Edge and there was a modified ODIN and "Engineering" boot.img (kernel) that claims to root the device. So I am curious if using that "modified hack" version of ODIN and a boot.img that has a kernel compatible with snapdragon (the only one I see in main s8+ forum is for Exynos). Not sure if this is really safe to do but I am guessing that once enough devs want root on this device, something will be out there. Has anyone tried KingRoot?
I have trieed Kingroot but always fail!!!
I hope Chainfire can do something for us.
Anyway: eng kernel exist for this device? Snapdragon version ofcourse.
I contacted the support team for oneclickroot and they said that they do not have a root for the US versions of the S8+.
Was wondering if there would be a way to modify and or port the s7 boot.img to an s8+ variant? Maybe even a way to "trick" it as to read it like an exynos vairant processor?
i just bougt sprint s8+ off swappa. any update to the rooting it cause im gonna unlock it.
photolarry said:
So I have been doing some research and the same kind of issue was occurring with the S7/Edge and there was a modified ODIN and "Engineering" boot.img (kernel) that claims to root the device. So I am curious if using that "modified hack" version of ODIN and a boot.img that has a kernel compatible with snapdragon (the only one I see in main s8+ forum is for Exynos). Not sure if this is really safe to do but I am guessing that once enough devs want root on this device, something will be out there. Has anyone tried KingRoot?
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I've tried KingRoot, but it's hot garbage. Seeing so much in the way of information regarding the S8 Plus having a locked bootloader (Sprint ENG_US version or any other carrier variant for that matter), and I was wondering if there is any new information? Eager to root this bad boy, but no bueno thus far. I'm seeing the information for international ones using the Exynos, but I found this 'CF-Auto-Root-dream2qltesq-dream2qltesq-smg955u.tar' earlier this afternoon. Not even sure if this is compatible and I'm not going to be the guinea pig today. Has anybody else messed with this kit?
Anybody have any relevant information pertaining to effective rooting of the S8 Plus on Sprint by chance? Until I hear of some success with this, I'm not going to attempt. Got a bit of a qualm with a $1K paperweight. Please advise.
Thanks!