Howdy! I'm torn between buying a Poco F1, Mi 9 Lite or Mi 8 Pro, and was checking here to see which of the phones has more support from the community. It seems like the Poco F1 is the winner, BUT... I'm worried in that in two or three ROM threads I checked, it's suggested "you flash the nano Google Apps". Why is that? I mean, in past phones of mine, like the HTC Desire or the OnePlus One, and if I remember correctly, you could repartition your storage to get more space for the system partition. This way you could flash normal-sized Google Apps. Is the Poco F1 - and other phones by Xiaomi - stuck at a specific size, with only the nano version flashable?
And if yes, doesn't that mean that in, say, six months or one year, when those apps will have grown even larger, not even the nano version will fit and you'll have to go even smaller?
I don't want to buy a phone for which new ROMs will feel too restricted, or you'll have to jump through major hoops to flash, one year down the road.
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Howdy! I'm torn between buying a Poco F1, Mi 9 Lite or Mi 8 Pro, and was checking here to see which of the phones has more support from the community. It seems like the Poco F1 is the winner, BUT... I'm worried in that in two or three ROM threads I checked, it's suggested "you flash the nano Google Apps". Why is that? I mean, in past phones of mine, like the HTC Desire or the OnePlus One, and if I remember correctly, you could repartition your storage to get more space for the system partition. This way you could flash normal-sized Google Apps. Is the Poco F1 - and other phones by Xiaomi - stuck at a specific size, with only the nano version flashable?
And if yes, doesn't that mean that in, say, six months or one year, when those apps will have grown even larger, not even the nano version will fit and you'll have to go even smaller?
I don't want to buy a phone for which new ROMs will feel too restricted, or you'll have to jump through major hoops to flash, one year down the road.
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There's no system space restriction whatsoever, neither do you need to repartition the storage.
Nano gapps are suggested mostly because there are some ROMs that encounter bugs with richer gapps
and because opengapps support only up to nano-gapps for Android 10 for now
Ah,I see! Thanks for the clarification! If it's not too much, or against the rules, which one of those phones would you believe would be better in the long run? I've already bought a Mi 9 Lite for my wife, and I love its display, but the Poco (and, up to a point, the Mi 8 Pro) have better CPU/GPU and support here. For some reason, I don't see the Mi 9 Lite "catching up over here" - its forums seem baren compared to the other ones. But, damn, that screen...
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Ah,I see! Thanks for the clarification! If it's not too much, or against the rules, which one of those phones would you believe would be better in the long run? I've already bought a Mi 9 Lite for my wife, and I love its display, but the Poco (and, up to a point, the Mi 8 Pro) have better CPU/GPU and support here. For some reason, I don't see the Mi 9 Lite "catching up over here" - its forums seem baren compared to the other ones. But, damn, that screen...
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I own the poco for about a year and i have bought mi 9T for my wife (same as the lite, but with submersible camera).
Screen difference is great.
The notch is a large disadvantage for the poco and many good ROMs break the deal for me, with how they use the space it leaves.
Sound is a bit better on mi9t
I don't think photos (with gcam) have much difference between the two, except telephoto.
I am very satisfied with the poco but i have to let you know that:
1. If you're not gaming i'd suggest mi9 lite/t
2. I get 7-8 hours SOT without performance restrictions, so if you choose the mi8, i guess that you'll get ~5-6h SOT with the smaller battery and the led (if that helps)
Thanks for the quick and extensive reply!
Although I fancy myself a gamer, I find that, at over 40, I end up mostly using my phone in other ways - notes, calendar, task management, GPS...
I really-really like my emulators, that's why the Poco F1 and Mi 8 Pro look better, on paper, compared to the Mi 9 Lite. But if I'm to be a realist, the Mi 9 Lite's screen will end up being better in the long run for ogling text, that will end up being 90% of what I use the phone for. And I'll be damned if its lower specs aren't enough to run some SNES or Genesis - era games
I only hope there's a hack or something for doubling the size of displayed text. My eyesight's started failing, and the text on its ultra-HD screen, on my wife's phone, is also ultra-small for me. I've read that you can't overdo the DPI settings in the dev options 'cause the whole UI might break.
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I only hope there's a hack or something for doubling the size of displayed text. My eyesight's started failing, and the text on its ultra-HD screen, on my wife's phone, is also ultra-small for me. I've read that you can't overdo the DPI settings in the dev options 'cause the whole UI might break.
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Android 10 has text size reduce/enlarge inbuilt.
Idk if it's there in miui though.
My wife's Mi 9 Lite has an option in MIUI, but I found all the three settings it offered small. That's why I enabled the dev options and directly changed the DPI value. But, AFAIK, I can't overdo that - and don't know what the limits are.
By the way, Mi 9 Lite incoming. Thanks for helping me choose.
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Which one should i get? They're roughly the same price in my country. I need a phone for at least 2-3years.
Well depends what you want from your phone.
I see a lot of advantages on the OP6.
The SD845 overall performance seems to be better than the Kirin 970, you have the option of 255GB for internal storage, besides the software is less intrusive style wise but also functionality wise.
But, the Mate has better cameras, it's a Android Enterprise Recommended phone, that means that you will get at least one security patch every 90 days for 2 years at least and at least 1 major OS update.
Other hardware features are better water protection and USB 3.0.
That said OnePlus track record of updating isn't that bad, but there's no promises from their side.
And last but not least, if you have any desire to do stuff with custom roms, rooting, etc... You'll wanna go OnePlus.
oneplus updating is spectacular.
I have the 3T and The 5T and both are still updated at least twice a month.
If battery life is the main concern, then the Mate 10 Pro may well be the better bet. I can get consistent 6+ hours of Screen on Time and mostly a full day of hard usage. It's about the only thing keeping me from staying with my M10P though. I got a deal that means I will pay significantly less for it than an upfront OP6 too. It may well be that the Mate 10 Pro will drop further as we get towards the Mate 20 launch in October.
The camera is good, but tends to over do the processing when in auto mode. It does have one of the best Pro modes though if you like to fiddle.
If you do get a Mate 10 Pro, make sure its a C432 model or one of the ones that are regularly updated - my C782 model is still on March 1st security update and I have no confidence that will improve once the Mate 20 is out.
If you have any interest in custom ROMS after that 2 years when you still have perfectly functioning hardware, then OnePlus is almost certainly the way to go - it seems to be one of the few flagships left that has a very active ROM development and Huawei have now shot down any claim to interest in that by withdrawing bootloader unlock.
I 'upgraded' from a OnePlus One running an 8.1 custom ROM that had worked perfectly except for the poor battery life - until it fell in the toilet! (Actually a replacement speaker later and it's still working fine and on a later version of Android that my M10P). There will certainly be options to run the latest software on a OnePlus 6 in 3 years, whereas you will likely be out of luck with the Mate 10 Pro. The camera sucked on the OPO, but I gather it is at least acceptable on the OP6
Software may not be a key concern - actually I can live with EMUI and it has some nice extra 'assistance' touches, but it also has flaky bluetooth in my experience and the over eager power management drives me crazy trying to use things like Tasker.
tl;dr - If you need the battery, go with Mate 10 Pro - if you don't care about the best camera possible, or ever want to go the custom rom route, go with OP6.
One plus 6 hands down, save your self the head ache of Huawei
340 $ for Mate 10 Pro
550 $ for Oneplus 6
Witch one would you choose?
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340 $ for Mate 10 Pro
550 $ for Oneplus 6
Witch one would you choose?
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Mate 10 pro atw
Lilholt1962 said:
340 $ for Mate 10 Pro
550 $ for Oneplus 6
Witch one would you choose?
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For a price difference like that Mate 10 pro
didnt use OPO but did use xiaomi mi note 2 phone and now bought mate 10 pro, I also didnt know and have second thoughts about buying OPO 6 or M10pro. so at the end bought M10pro and so far can say the phone is ok but considering rooting installing TWRP and custom roms seems to be little complicated because, after reading xda, bunch of people have bricked they device. now I like to have rooted phone and installed custom rom, lineage os or Aosp extended, but that is not gona happen on this phone so if you like to have rooted phone and have custom roms buy OPO6 definitely, its not everyting in camera. PS emui is quite lagy some times and still needs improvement.
if it matters... the op5t has bluetooth issues with fitbit, not sure if op6 changed but likely issues remain
not sure if fitbit would make a difference, but who knows what other devices may or may not work well. op5t also has issues with car bluetooth, mate10 has none of the issues with the two devices.
luinwethion said:
well depends what you want from your phone.
I see a lot of advantages on the op6.
The sd845 overall performance seems to be better than the kirin 970, you have the option of 255gb for internal storage, besides the software is less intrusive style wise but also functionality wise.
But, the mate has better cameras, it's a android enterprise recommended phone, that means that you will get at least one security patch every 90 days for 2 years at least and at least 1 major os update.
Other hardware features are better water protection and usb 3.0.
That said oneplus track record of updating isn't that bad, but there's no promises from their side.
And last but not least, if you have any desire to do stuff with custom roms, rooting, etc... You'll wanna go oneplus.
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usb3.1 iirc
I also bought the mate10pro, big mistake! It was on a pre 8.0.0.146 version with magisk and twrp running fine. Installed xposed, got a bootloop, did a erecovery rescue to factory emui 8, after that applied the latest ota to emui 9 which was the worst thing to do. Got the new bootloader and because the original was unlocked the phone bricked. Back to erecovery and no rescue... tried everything but no luck, so now it's worthless. It may have a very niche leica camera but that won't do any good if you can't recovery the phone. Huawei sucks in every way, just look at how they killed any development other than their own.
So now I ordered the OP 6 which has a very shiny development community, I won't have any worries about being stuck with another paperweight, and if I want a good camera I'll pickup my nikon fullframe dslr, no phone beats that.
I wouldnt go with Huawei if you rely on mods. No real custom rom beside openkirin. No real custom kernel. V4A not working, Dolby Atmos works only on oreo based custom roms. You dont get unlock code from Huawei anymore. You can grab your unlock code via paid services. Alone, when the partition oeminfo gets damaged and your bootloader is locked, your unlock code will not work, erecovery will not work etc DC could fix such bricks but now after the .b145 c432 firmware, they patched it. After B146 you cant downgrade. No real/outdated kernel sources. I recommend this device only for normal conusmers, who dont intend to root this phone. I left Samsung because of adding the knox warranty void string, now leaving Huawei because of the reason I told above.
Oneplus phones have very high SAR values... Be careful
Mate 10 (non-pro) would really last you 2-3yrs because amoled burn (it really is an issue) wouldn't affect you.
I have a mate 10 (non pro) I am trying to sell. Mint condition with the fancy smart flip case. I have a note 9 now so don't need it. Currently has an armorsuit clear skin on it.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/233114506347
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I also bought the mate10pro, big mistake! It was on a pre 8.0.0.146 version with magisk and twrp running fine. Installed xposed, got a bootloop, did a erecovery rescue to factory emui 8, after that applied the latest ota to emui 9 which was the worst thing to do. Got the new bootloader and because the original was unlocked the phone bricked. Back to erecovery and no rescue... tried everything but no luck, so now it's worthless. It may have a very niche leica camera but that won't do any good if you can't recovery the phone. Huawei sucks in every way, just look at how they killed any development other than their own.
So now I ordered the OP 6 which has a very shiny development community, I won't have any worries about being stuck with another paperweight, and if I want a good camera I'll pickup my nikon fullframe dslr, no phone beats that.
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are you lucky with your decision? I have a Mate 10 Pro and want to get a 1+6 or 1+6t and some personal feedback (accu for example) would be great.
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are you lucky with your decision? I have a Mate 10 Pro and want to get a 1+6 or 1+6t and some personal feedback (accu for example) would be great.
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Some years later, a reply. YES, I went to OP6 (I still have it working) and later to OP7pro (also still working) and now I'm on OP8 with AICP17.1 (android 12) fully loaded, rooted all working perfectly. Never regretted the change to OnePlus, excellent value for money and excellent support community, very recommendable for custom roms etc. If ever you brick it (happend a few times to me) you get your MSMtool out and bring it back to life in no time.
btw, my mate10pro was still within guarantee, so I sent it back to the seller, took a few months because they tried to recover it, didn't work and I got a full refund.
Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro is another decent option but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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The Huawei Y9 is out as per your stated requirements as they don't even allow bootloader unlocking. There might be unofficial methods. Poco F1 looks to be the best choice but I don't know if the initial issues like backlight bleeding, touch latency etc have been fixed. Redmi Note 7 Pro but the price difference between its 6GB model and Poco F1 base variant is too little. Realme has opened up BL unlocking but the pace of development doesn't seem very encouraging. Otherwise the Realme 3 Pro appears to pack solid hardware. Dunno when the Poco F2 will be launched.
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Thanks for input. I though pretty much the same Poco F1 would be the best option!
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Hi folks I just shattered the screen of my Redmi Note 3 SD version (RN3). I had this phone since early 2016 and though it's still working and I could prolly do a service job on it for $50 and extend its life to a year or so I feel sticking to this phone any further wouldn't be to my advantage.
So I'm in the market for a new phone and I would really love to hear your precious advise so I may get the best available option for my hard earned bucks.
My budget is around $350. I'm not a brand fan boi, I don't mind going for unknown brands if the build quality is there. B/C with a good build quality you can get the best out of your phone under XDA. So when I go for a smartphone the features I pay attention to are:
1-If the phone can handle recent games. If a phone can handle recent games odds are high that it will perform well in everyday life.
2-It must have a great community under XDA so that if the manufacturers aren't arsed to push updates, you can still get the best out of your phone by for e.g flashing a custom rom or the Google cam or flash the latest security patch and so on.
3-The camera specs should be good (not expecting pixel3 stuffs or p30 results), but should be able to take good shots when I go on road trips.
Having said that, phones that have caught my eye so far are the Huawei Y9(2019 version) and the Xiaomi Poco Phone F1. So what do you lads think!
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Wait for Mi A3 . not sure its launching date. it is android one device. Bootloader unlocking is very easy for android one phone.
Updates will given by google and not xiaomi. Also u will get 3 android updates. Spec will be same like rn7 pro.
Or buy rn7 pro. It has QC 4.0 charging and 4000mah battery.
From Kenzo, I used Tissot which is Mi A1 and now lavender which is Redmi Note 7.
Redmi Note 7 aka lavender as of now has very minimal development going on based on xda threads available. But the good thing is that it supports treble so gsi will provide you with a lot of custom rom and me myself is using a GSI now. Violet aka Note 7 Pro on the other hand has a better development than lavender. It has great camera too considering you are using gcam to full utilize the camera and also lavender's camera is Greta as well but not as good as violet. Lavender has Snapdragon 660 and violet has Snapdragon 675.
Hello / As Salam o Alikum Guys
I was previously using Redmi Note 7 but now i want some change, i was thinking to buy Pocophone F1, but first i want to know your experience with this device.
My basic use multimedia and lite gaming (btw i never play Pubg
I have some questions in mind
1. Is it still worth buying in 2019?
2. Is the Camera, display and sound quality is good as compared with Redmi Note 7?
If you are kind enough, please share your valuable comments.
1. Yes it still is, the price for Poco has gone down significantly too 6GB+128GB is priced at ₹18,999 in India.
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1. Yes it still is, the price for Poco has gone down significantly too 6GB+128GB is priced at ₹18,999 in India.
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Thanks for your reply.
What about "2"
its worth buying in 2019 ONLY if you can guarantee your unit will not have a bad display and accordingly will not give you any hardware-related touch issues!
I advise you to read threads on poco f1 section on xda talking about touch issues to get an idea about how BAD it is then decide to buy or not!
Worth buying this phone, even if you can lose many hours tinkering around in order to achieve the best performance.
Poco f2 is almost on surface, i would suggest to get a new version rather buying almost 10 month old device it's a good phone.... Well you're the deciding party here.
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Hello / As Salam o Alikum Guys
I was previously using Redmi Note 7 but now i want some change, i was thinking to buy Pocophone F1, but first i want to know your experience with this device.
My basic use multimedia and lite gaming (btw i never play Pubg
I have some questions in mind
1. Is it still worth buying in 2019?
2. Is the Camera, display and sound quality is good as compared with Redmi Note 7?
If you are kind enough, please share your valuable comments.
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Since you are coming from RN7 and looking for change then here is my honest advice for you, unless pocof1 is on huge Discount price, DONOT buy & wait and seriously consider buying upcoming A3plus
why?
I am using this device for last few months and this is my review about it
1. I wish, I wish and I WISH xiaomi would have released this device on Android One. the developers on xda would have done so much with it!
2. since its on typical miui10 and may go on 11, you won't feel much of a difference coming from Rn7 to F1... Accept the
3. huge usles notch on top which eats 70% of status bar! , its really annoying and design fault!
4. after unlocking, i am using havoc since day1 , because i found f1 screen veiwing angels not convincing enough and needs certain fix in TINT, COLOR, BRIGHTNESS by Kcal so I had to Root and Use HAvoc. Yes I could flash any kernel even on MIUI but there is strange policy of Navigation Bar in over all MIUI that it stays WHITE most of the time and KEYBOARD switch key NEVER appears on NAVBAR, its in notification panel! so if i have switch to English (swiftkey) to Urdu Gboard I must scroll down the quicksettings panel and located "switch input method" in list of notifications to select different keyboard! .. this is a huge bummer for me and because of this factor I am going to buy devices not having miui or keyboards in notification panel!
5. also PocoF1 has MODIFIED VENDOR image from Xiaomi hence tweaks like VOLUME BOOSTER only works on kernel level which is still NOT GOOD enough in my dictionary. when i was on RedmiNote5pro, I had always alter Mixer Path file in system/vendor/etc to 120 from 84 ( RX mix digital line) which use to give BOOMING sound to all music tracks! but on F1, even I raise the volume to 20 from 0, i still miss the RN5pro tweak because PocoF1's vendor folder don't have Mixer Patch.XML file to play with!
6. since modified vendor+firmware policy. pocoF1 gives strange system UI crashes on usb tethering for 3g connections. (there is a fix but its annoying)
7. on hardware side, the device gets HOT easily! yes it doesnt hang but it gets hot! and scares you! (even on custom roms and doze enabled)
my mind is set on A3Plus because its going to be on AndroidOne out of the box, 6gb / SD710 (which predominantly has better temperature and battery control w.r.t to SD845) and A3pro had very small notch.
YasuHamed said:
Since you are coming from RN7 and looking for change then here is my honest advice for you, unless pocof1 is on huge Discount price, DONOT buy & wait and seriously consider buying upcoming A3plus
why?
I am using this device for last few months and this is my review about it
1. I wish, I wish and I WISH xiaomi would have released this device on Android One. the developers on xda would have done so much with it!
2. since its on typical miui10 and may go on 11, you won't feel much of a difference coming from Rn7 to F1... Accept the
3. huge usles notch on top which eats 70% of status bar! , its really annoying and design fault!
4. after unlocking, i am using havoc since day1 , because i found f1 screen veiwing angels not convincing enough and needs certain fix in TINT, COLOR, BRIGHTNESS by Kcal so I had to Root and Use HAvoc. Yes I could flash any kernel even on MIUI but there is strange policy of Navigation Bar in over all MIUI that it stays WHITE most of the time and KEYBOARD switch key NEVER appears on NAVBAR, its in notification panel! so if i have switch to English (swiftkey) to Urdu Gboard I must scroll down the quicksettings panel and located "switch input method" in list of notifications to select different keyboard! .. this is a huge bummer for me and because of this factor I am going to buy devices not having miui or keyboards in notification panel!
5. also PocoF1 has MODIFIED VENDOR image from Xiaomi hence tweaks like VOLUME BOOSTER only works on kernel level which is still NOT GOOD enough in my dictionary. when i was on RedmiNote5pro, I had always alter Mixer Path file in system/vendor/etc to 120 from 84 ( RX mix digital line) which use to give BOOMING sound to all music tracks! but on F1, even I raise the volume to 20 from 0, i still miss the RN5pro tweak because PocoF1's vendor folder don't have Mixer Patch.XML file to play with!
6. since modified vendor+firmware policy. pocoF1 gives strange system UI crashes on usb tethering for 3g connections. (there is a fix but its annoying)
7. on hardware side, the device gets HOT easily! yes it doesnt hang but it gets hot! and scares you! (even on custom roms and doze enabled)
my mind is set on A3Plus because its going to be on AndroidOne out of the box, 6gb / SD710 (which predominantly has better temperature and battery control w.r.t to SD845) and A3pro had very small notch.
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I'm disagreement with point 7. This device heats up only when you play heavy games. And not too much... MIUI have some special thermal profiles that keeps temperature low.
About point 3, the notch is big, yes, but it gives IR camera which allows you to unlock you phone with the face on completely dark rooms.
YasuHamed said:
Since you are coming from RN7 and looking for change then here is my honest advice for you, unless pocof1 is on huge Discount price, DONOT buy & wait and seriously consider buying upcoming A3plus
why?
I am using this device for last few months and this is my review about it
1. I wish, I wish and I WISH xiaomi would have released this device on Android One. the developers on xda would have done so much with it!
2. since its on typical miui10 and may go on 11, you won't feel much of a difference coming from Rn7 to F1... Accept the
3. huge usles notch on top which eats 70% of status bar! , its really annoying and design fault!
4. after unlocking, i am using havoc since day1 , because i found f1 screen veiwing angels not convincing enough and needs certain fix in TINT, COLOR, BRIGHTNESS by Kcal so I had to Root and Use HAvoc. Yes I could flash any kernel even on MIUI but there is strange policy of Navigation Bar in over all MIUI that it stays WHITE most of the time and KEYBOARD switch key NEVER appears on NAVBAR, its in notification panel! so if i have switch to English (swiftkey) to Urdu Gboard I must scroll down the quicksettings panel and located "switch input method" in list of notifications to select different keyboard! .. this is a huge bummer for me and because of this factor I am going to buy devices not having miui or keyboards in notification panel!
5. also PocoF1 has MODIFIED VENDOR image from Xiaomi hence tweaks like VOLUME BOOSTER only works on kernel level which is still NOT GOOD enough in my dictionary. when i was on RedmiNote5pro, I had always alter Mixer Path file in system/vendor/etc to 120 from 84 ( RX mix digital line) which use to give BOOMING sound to all music tracks! but on F1, even I raise the volume to 20 from 0, i still miss the RN5pro tweak because PocoF1's vendor folder don't have Mixer Patch.XML file to play with!
6. since modified vendor+firmware policy. pocoF1 gives strange system UI crashes on usb tethering for 3g connections. (there is a fix but its annoying)
7. on hardware side, the device gets HOT easily! yes it doesnt hang but it gets hot! and scares you! (even on custom roms and doze enabled)
my mind is set on A3Plus because its going to be on AndroidOne out of the box, 6gb / SD710 (which predominantly has better temperature and battery control w.r.t to SD845) and A3pro had very small notch.
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Yes, that's what i was looking for.
RN5 Pro was my first Xiaomi phone and yes that was one of the best i've ever used.
What do you think about MI 8SE, it have Amoled display and SD 710
ammaralidj said:
Yes, that's what i was looking for.
RN5 Pro was my first Xiaomi phone and yes that was one of the best i've ever used.
What do you think about MI 8SE, it have Amoled display and SD 710
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I have RN5p to my younger sibling so its atleast in the house /family
I have heard all goody goody stuff about MI 8se but
1. a device having similar notch to poco
2. smaller battery to poco f1
3. no SD Card support
4. and having NO 3.5mm jack...
are you serious ???
how about if i say to you this...
wait longer! and buy device with qualcom new modem embeded to recieve 5g... ?
yes 5g is not released in your country (yet) but as Huwaie pushing 5g in 2019 and apple 12 pushing 5g in late 2020 , soon in 18months many countries will have 5g
so far Mi Mix 3 has 5g but like mi8 se it also don't have card slot nor 3.5mm jack so its a no go for me ~!
YasuHamed said:
I have RN5p to my younger sibling so its atleast in the house /family
I have heard all goody goody stuff about MI 8se but
1. a device having similar notch to poco
2. smaller battery to poco f1
3. no SD Card support
4. and having NO 3.5mm jack...
are you serious ???
how about if i say to you this...
wait longer! and buy device with qualcom new modem embeded to recieve 5g... ?
yes 5g is not released in your country (yet) but as Huwaie pushing 5g in 2019 and apple 12 pushing 5g in late 2020 , soon in 18months many countries will have 5g
so far Mi Mix 3 has 5g but like mi8 se it also don't have card slot nor 3.5mm jack so its a no go for me ~!
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Yes you have points Yes 5G is in test phase currently in Pakistan, So i guess i should buy a RN5P for the time being and wait for a better option. Thank you so much for your advises
I'll be really honest and simple:
You will miss some "fancyness" from a flagship, specially in design or bezels, but since i got mine I don't remember what the word "lag" or "slow" means.
So, in fact is a practical phone. Get it
Check Note 9's pricing now, it should have gone down with the release of Note 10.
any one can tell me how to install miui 11 gsi on mi a3?
deadheart420 said:
any one can tell me how to install miui 11 gsi on mi a3?
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aslo badly need miui on my mi a3
It is literally known as meme-ui the whole Android community gives out about it, it is a meme for how bad it is.
Your better off going with an aosp rom as your privacy and data will be safe, Android one just gives it all to Google aswel.
Read up about these things first don't just go blindly flashing stuff coz it's "cool".
Plus it's a lot heavier than an aosp rom which will eat ram and battery on the device and probably result in a decrease in performance.
What is the reasoning behind wanting miui so much? Just out of curiosity.
Is there any way to install gsi on mi a3? tried to install resurrection remix through fastboot in "A" slot (fastboot flash system system.img) but phone doesn't boot.
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It is literally known as meme-ui the whole Android community gives out about it, it is a meme for how bad it is.
Your better off going with an aosp rom as your privacy and data will be safe, Android one just gives it all to Google aswel.
Read up about these things first don't just go blindly flashing stuff coz it's "cool".
Plus it's a lot heavier than an aosp rom which will eat ram and battery on the device and probably result in a decrease in performance.
What is the reasoning behind wanting miui so much? Just out of curiosity.
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i am using miui from very first of my phone. and after buying mi a3 i just stuck into minimal feature of android one .. also i need to get back app locker, privacy locker, screen recoder with internal audio, real full screen gesture dark mode and many mode without using any 3rd party app
Why did you buy the A3 in the first place? CC9e is identical in specs but with MIUI, I'd buy this phone because of Android One like the most of us.
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Why did you buy the A3 in the first place? CC9e is identical in specs but with MIUI, I'd buy this phone because of Android One like the most of us.
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moreover, CC9e has FullHD+ 1080p screen, unlike A3.
3 yars since A1 was released, and people are still buying Android One devices to install miui there...
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3 yars since A1 was released, and people are still buying Android One devices to install miui there...
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???? Lol
ne_toy said:
moreover, CC9e has FullHD+ 1080p screen, unlike A3.
3 yars since A1 was released, and people are still buying Android One devices to install miui there...
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nope the cc9e is also 720p. the cc9 is indeed fhd (aka mi 9 lite)
yes, such a shame... and makes no sense, the android one support does add to the price the phones so why... is a big mistery for me too... not to mention variety, there's countkess more miui phones to choose from
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It is literally known as meme-ui the whole Android community gives out about it, it is a meme for how bad it is.
Your better off going with an aosp rom as your privacy and data will be safe, Android one just gives it all to Google aswel.
Read up about these things first don't just go blindly flashing stuff coz it's "cool".
Plus it's a lot heavier than an aosp rom which will eat ram and battery on the device and probably result in a decrease in performance.
What is the reasoning behind wanting miui so much? Just out of curiosity.
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What you are saying used to be true.
I hated Miui when I first tried it in 2017. Recent Global versions of Miui is fantastic, I prefer using the customized Xiaomi/EU rom.
AOSP has its merits, but the Xiaomi Meme thing is honestly outdated and frankly silly.
and after so many jokes and history classes, and explanations of the boy who works at bestbuy, is there any way to use MIUI in the A3?
deadheart020 said:
i am using miui from very first of my phone. and after buying mi a3 i just stuck into minimal feature of android one .. also i need to get back app locker, privacy locker, screen recoder with internal audio, real full screen gesture dark mode and many mode without using any 3rd party app
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...Second space
Record calls (without using any 3rd party app)
etc, etc, etc
What's so bad on using 3rd party apps to have those feature? I for one have zero interest in call recorder, screen recorder, app lock, second space or any of the MIUI apps and I'm glad that these, for me useless apps are not part of the system. That's why I always choose clean Android. If you know that you need such features, well, buy a phone with MIUI..? Even if you somehow manage to boot MIUI on A3, it won't support OTA updates and most probably some of the essential features won't work (e.g. FP sensor).
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What's so bad on using 3rd party apps to have those feature? I for one have zero interest in call recorder, screen recorder, app lock, second space or any of the MIUI apps and I'm glad that these, for me useless apps are not part of the system. That's why I always choose clean Android. If you know that you need such features, well, buy a phone with MIUI..? Even if you somehow manage to boot MIUI on A3, it won't support OTA updates and most probably some of the essential features won't work (e.g. FP sensor).
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If Mi CC9e had a global MIUI (not English / Chinese only), there would be no such conversation. But since there are a lot of people who like MIUI more than Android Stock, there are a lot of people looking for MIUI for the Mi A3!
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If Mi CC9e had a global MIUI (not English / Chinese only), there would be no such conversation. But since there are a lot of people who like MIUI more than Android Stock, there are a lot of people looking for MIUI for the Mi A3!
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Xiaomi has 4 phones with Android One and at least 20 with MIUI. A3 is nothing special (except the Android One program), why on Earth would you choose it over any other phone with fully supported MIUI out of the box? Just to complain that you miss things which are deliberately not present?
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A3 is nothing special? Tell me one smartphone with a screen less than 6 inches (for me very important) and a decent battery (over 4000 mAh). In addition it has a good / excellent camera.
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A3 is nothing special? Tell me one smartphone with a screen less than 6 inches (for me very important) and a decent battery (over 4000 mAh). In addition it has a good / excellent camera.
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I am not familiar with MIUI phones as I find zero interest in them. If there is no such phone, I guess you need to make a compromise somewhere.
Most recent phones have excellent camera with gcam mod.
Guys, MIUI has its benefits, but stock android is not that bad either. I just love stock android.
But it seems many people are regretting buying this phone. Maybe someone will port MIUI for A3 someday, meanwhile you can follow the video shared by @ozankardes, it looks promising. The video is not in English, but I guess you can pickup the important bits easily. Good luck!
I tried the MIUI ROM in the video. it work.
ROM belongs to MI CC9e. Only 2 languages. English & Chinese. You can use morelocale2.
-No Google apps.
-Auto brightness is not stable.
-Fingerprints don't work.
Everything works except what those.
I tried a few more A/B GSI roms (Flyme 8, MIUI 11). None of them worked. Maybe only will work GSI A roms I don't know. We need to do more trials.
Hello!
I'm need a new phone ASAP since my last one died a few days back, my intention is to use it for a few years and eventually once the updates sto and the phone starts slowing down, unlock the bootloader, root the device, flash TWRP and get strated with some ROMs.
Is Redmi Note 9s a good choice considering this?
Is the 4GB version good enough or would the upgrade to 6gb be substantialy noticable and worth it? (I initially wanted to get the 8T but it's only ~$25 upgrade to go with the 4gb 9s instead and over $75 for the 9s in the 6gb version.)
I also considered the Note 8T and 8 Pro.
From what I've read it seems that the 8 Pro is the best of the budget Xiaomi phones but it's the most problematic one with a big potential to get bricked.
The 8T would also probably be fine, but it's a very small difference in price between it and the 4gb version of the 9S which seems to be better in every way.
The 9S seems to have great potential for modding, with easily unlockable bootloader and a Snapdragon that afaik doesn't like to brick itself like the mediatek in the 8 Pro does.
9 Pro is a bit pricy for me, and it seems like tehe only difference is the NFC that i don't need.
What do you guys think i should get?
I'm sorry if this is not the right place to ask but since it's a forum dedicated to the development for a phone i consider buying with modding in mind i think it fits here nicely.
I think your best choice right now is the Note 8/8T. It have time on the market, so it have a mature scene of development. The Note 9S is new on the market, and also comes with Android 10 preinstalled, that means there is no official TWRP available and so means less development. Also the Note 8/8T have a Snapdragon SoC, best choice for modding compared to MediaTek on the RN8 Pro. Finally, the RN9S have some bugs that isn't resolved, and we don't know if they are hardware or software bugs, because Xiaomi isn't capable of fixing it, even with a couple of software updates. (wifi on sleep bug, pocket mode bug, bluetooth volume bug)
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I think your best choice right now is the Note 8/8T. It have time on the market, so it have a mature scene of development. The Note 9S is new on the market, and also comes with Android 10 preinstalled, that means there is no official TWRP available and so means less development. Also the Note 8/8T have a Snapdragon SoC, best choice for modding compared to MediaTek on the RN8 Pro. Finally, the RN9S have some bugs that isn't resolved, and we don't know if they are hardware or software bugs, because Xiaomi isn't capable of fixing it, even with a couple of software updates. (wifi on sleep bug, pocket mode bug, bluetooth volume bug)
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Was in OP's situation with my LG G5, went for the 9S Global. Has all the bugs you listed and MIUI is aggravating as all heck. I came from LOS 17 and I appreciate the hardware. I think it'll sell a lot and those bugs will be fixed, but I don't think I will wait much before moving to a GSI - Project Treble, man!
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Was in OP's situation with my LG G5, went for the 9S Global. Has all the bugs you listed and MIUI is aggravating as all heck. I came from LOS 17 and I appreciate the hardware. I think it'll sell a lot and those bugs will be fixed, but I don't think I will wait much before moving to a GSI - Project Treble, man!
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Yeah, I'm also thinking of install GSI ROM by Sooti, but it very annoys me, because isn't right to unlock and mod a month-old device. That really speaks bad about Xiaomi, I think the aggresive phone launching cycle (10 or 20 only the first half of this year!) is affecting the quality control.
Maranex said:
Hello!
I'm need a new phone ASAP since my last one died a few days back, my intention is to use it for a few years and eventually once the updates sto and the phone starts slowing down, unlock the bootloader, root the device, flash TWRP and get strated with some ROMs.
Is Redmi Note 9s a good choice considering this?
Is the 4GB version good enough or would the upgrade to 6gb be substantialy noticable and worth it? (I initially wanted to get the 8T but it's only ~$25 upgrade to go with the 4gb 9s instead and over $75 for the 9s in the 6gb version.)
I also considered the Note 8T and 8 Pro.
From what I've read it seems that the 8 Pro is the best of the budget Xiaomi phones but it's the most problematic one with a big potential to get bricked.
The 8T would also probably be fine, but it's a very small difference in price between it and the 4gb version of the 9S which seems to be better in every way.
The 9S seems to have great potential for modding, with easily unlockable bootloader and a Snapdragon that afaik doesn't like to brick itself like the mediatek in the 8 Pro does.
9 Pro is a bit pricy for me, and it seems like tehe only difference is the NFC that i don't need.
What do you guys think i should get?
I'm sorry if this is not the right place to ask but since it's a forum dedicated to the development for a phone i consider buying with modding in mind i think it fits here nicely.
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You are in the same situation I was in, I finally decided on the 9s for precisely the same reasons that you say. Good choice (I bought 4gb versión, I think 6Gb will do lightly better, but unless its price is similar, I don't think it's worth it