should I buy mate 10 phone in 2020 - Huawei Mate 10 Questions & Answers

Hello
Am thinking of getting the mate 10 pro (north america ver). It looks as price and specs wise is pretty good.
Would u owners of the phone recommend of buying it?
Thx in advance

Nope, I'd buy s8 instead or something else like onpleus 7t with even better cpu if available for same price.
They both should offer better performance, mate 10 pro throttles like crazy - to the point where it constantly is above throttling point of 37° C
Just a normal use keeps your device at 40/41° C, few more degrees, at 45° C iirc and your performance dips even further.
They cheaped out on cooling solutions and it hurts really bad, even in every day tasks. You throttle before you even step into cpu/gpu heavy applications, once inside you get horrendous performance out of a cpu that should be able to push 90% of the content at stable 60 fps.
I'm thinking of modifying mine but the design choices make it really hard to do so ?
So yeah, on paper it looks nice but expect real world performance to be much much worse than what you see in comparisons between snapdragon 835 ( I'm not sure if that's the one s8 has) and kirin 970. It's not worth the money when what you get performs like lower class cpu of not even worse - 99% of the time due to poor thermal relief methods.

Rstment ^m^ said:
Nope, I'd buy s8 instead or something else like onpleus 7t with even better cpu if available for same price.
They both should offer better performance, mate 10 pro throttles like crazy - to the point where it constantly is above throttling point of 37° C
Just a normal use keeps your device at 40/41° C, few more degrees, at 45° C iirc and your performance dips even further.
They cheaped out on cooling solutions and it hurts really bad, even in every day tasks. You throttle before you even step into cpu/gpu heavy applications, once inside you get horrendous performance out of a cpu that should be able to push 90% of the content at stable 60 fps.
I'm thinking of modifying mine but the design choices make it really hard to do so ?
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I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.

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I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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That, but keep in mind that custom ROMs is a no go with this phone or any other Huawei models. Or remove or bloatware from Huawei.
If the above are important to you maybe OnePlus?
In the end is up to you. If you've found a perfect offer and you do not care about unlocked bootloaders, custom ROMs, rooting etc, then go for it. Great camera for the price.

base how you use this phone. you just call and massage, game or take some photos at the same time. keep use it.

jdstrydom said:
I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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Sure enough, each to themselves ?
But the fact remains that even for your light use a different phone would bring much smoother experience.

We are not really spoiled for choice in South Africa in regards to phones. Mobile companies here are mainly pushing newest iphones, huaweis and Samsungs at premium contract prices locked down for 36 months (for some). And at the other side of the price spectrum some really nasty cheap ones. We don't get many Xiaomi notes here (my previous one was Mido RN4), so it really was a no-brainer to get the Mate 10 Pro at 2 to 3 times less cost. Sucks that the bootloader is locked though, would have liked to run AICP or AEX

as a backup phone for sure i will choose mate 10(not pro version) , because it suite all i need ,i got a brand new old stock mate 10 for cheap price $139 at my country and its still on ancient firmware where i can unlock the bootloader using dc unlock .

Thank u all for ur helpful insights. Current am using mate 9, but I think I ma go for mate 20 although much more expensive then mate 10
Peace

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LG G6 worth the money at this time? July 2018

Hello, Im currently considering buying the LG G6 becouse it is around 310 Euros here. And in this price Range i dont see anything good for this price. I like the Wide angle camera and i saw also that it got Oreo update.
I was looking up for the Oneplus 6 or VG30 which is also 500 Euros. But considering that i will change any phone in 2 years... Dont wanna spend more than 400
kris234 said:
Hello, Im currently considering buying the LG G6 becouse it is around 310 Euros here. And in this price Range i dont see anything good for this price. I like the Wide angle camera and i saw also that it got Oreo update.
I was looking up for the Oneplus 6 or VG30 which is also 500 Euros. But considering that i will change any phone in 2 years... Dont wanna spend more than 400
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Better to go with OnePlus 6 at 469 Euros.
I paid 264€ (with a coupon) for my G6 last month and it is great
SVR said:
Better to go with OnePlus 6 at 469 Euros.
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Where can i find it dor 469?
Here in Germany the 64gb of Oneplus is 519 Euros i can get the 5% Student Discount
kris234 said:
Where can i find it dor 469?
Here in Germany the 64gb of Oneplus is 519 Euros i can get the 5% Student Discount
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469 is on UK site
Definitely not worth it. Better go for a phone with Snapdragon 660 or 710....
well, as last comment sayd better go with some SD710, if you can wait you can buy a Xiaomi Mi8 SE with SD710 for more 50 dollars more with better specs.
For me it's the best smartphone in this price range. Everything is at least very good, with no downsides.
My girlfriend bought it to replace her iphone after trying mine and she is truly happy with it.
I won't ever spend more than 300-350€ in a phone, because the increase in price is not worth it. And there's no better option. I won't buy a Xiaomi phone because its poor software. Also the Mi8 SE has no ip68, no radio fm, no 3,5 mm jack, no sd card slot, smaller battery... And we'll see what reviews says about its display or camera.
blackhawk_LA said:
For me it's the best smartphone in this price range. Everything is at least very good, with no downsides.
My girlfriend bought it to replace her iphone after trying mine and she is truly happy with it.
I won't ever spend more than 300-350€ in a phone, because the increase in price is not worth it. And there's no better option. I won't buy a Xiaomi phone because its poor software. Also the Mi8 SE has no ip68, no radio fm, no 3,5 mm jack, no sd card slot, smaller battery... And we'll see what reviews says about its display or camera.
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Poor software?! i mean, is not poor, is less intuitive, but with MIUI 10 around the corner it will be better, and feature wise Xiaomi is way better than LG, i can tell you because i already have some Xiaomi's to play for a week or twoo and you can see in my phone history i already have a lot of LG phones and i can tell you:
If LG put half (right, half) of the features of Xiaomi have i can be more happy. LG have some advantages like microSD, better camera, better screen and design...its about that only, nothing more impress with G6, with Xiaomi (and i am talking about mid to high end Xiaomi's) you experience is a lot better even tho the things is a little bit unorganized, spread all around settings and its hard to find some things sometimes but its OK.
I bought my G6 a moth ago, and i am happy...but now i go to store, play around with Mi MIX 2 and compare it to my G6 (at the time i can get both for around 350) and now, if time could be pushing back i chose Mi MIX 2 over G6...but i can live with G6 anyway.
Its my opinion, you make your choise, i just say my experience with both brands...
Sure MicroSD card is a must have for some people (me too) but you can learn to live without...trust me, like IR Blaster and HiFI DAC, my V10 have that and i can live without that with G6 (the featureless phone i have for a long time).
Well speaking of software it's always subjective, but for me it's very bothering that MIUI is too intrusive. I mean for example, I had a lot of problems trying to set Signal as default messing app instead the built in one. It kept auto changing back to default from time to time.
Xiaomi is always very good overall for its price, but right now I don't think there is a phone more complete than G6 for its price.
if softwer update is not important for you i suggest you buy a G6 its better for you buy a H870 Eu model or US997 if u are in usa this two models are officialy bootloader unlocked and get better software updates and dont buy dualsim one at all advantages of G6 : main camera is pretty good , screen quality is very good at this price better than iphone i compared with my friend , u can experince a good sensation with UX6 interface of G6 , some one say that this phone has battry drain but my phone does not have this problem , just only thing i dont like it is selfi camera and at last i can tell u this phone is very good at this price i tell u again if softwer update is not important to u close ur eyes and buy a G6
No one has mentioned the G6 has a flat screen with no curves. This makes tempered glass installation really easy and you get full protection. Otherwise the phone is really good. My wife's has not given her any trouble.
Well I can get the Eu Version and it has Oreo. And I was thinking if it get poor Software update I can flash it manualy. I even have this conspiracy in my head that after some point the companies like Samsung send you some cool improvment update which for Example drains your Battery on purpose. From the G6 i am expecting normal to good Battery life and some cool Photos. I saw that with Google Camera there is better Quality. And yes i do want the 3.5mm jack and Im looking for a phone to carry me 2 years. But I just dont see good Mid Range Phones for Max. 400 Euros Also I have Samsung S9 in my hands that i got from my new contract but I will try to sell it for 500 becouse it has The Battery draining Exynos Version.
Don't ever think to buy an ''lg'' phone!! They don't care about the consumers! And their support is terrible!
ALaWi_xX said:
Don't ever think to buy an ''lg'' phone!! They don't care about the consumers! And their support is terrible!
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Pfffff... India speaking ?
Murbert said:
No one has mentioned the G6 has a flat screen with no curves. This makes tempered glass installation really easy and you get full protection. Otherwise the phone is really good. My wife's has not given her any trouble.
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THIS ! I'm sick of searching for screen protectors for curved glass screens. They never cover full surface nor look good after installation.
I regret at times, try to avoid
Software updates sucks, lags a lot, it feels like snapdragon 600 series processor (I have 20-25 off apps).
Camera at the back is amazing, front camera is pathetic(although u can download google camera, but still front camera sucks in most of the siltation)
Battery is very ok. 3.5 hrs screen on time. I would definitely not suggest. I was so frustrated with battery and lagging issues i bought a secondary phone (redmi note 5 pro and it is wayy better)
Audio output is ok compared to other mid range phone of 2018. Although screen is good but not great in 2018
Try buying from aliexpress, MI Mix 2/2s are extremely good phones and it does not look as copy of iphone x as well.
apart from camera, everything sucks
ALaWi_xX said:
Don't ever think to buy an ''lg'' phone!! They don't care about the consumers! And their support is terrible!
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Any company in the business of making money (all of them) only cares about money.
blackhawk_LA said:
Well speaking of software it's always subjective, but for me it's very bothering that MIUI is too intrusive. I mean for example, I had a lot of problems trying to set Signal as default messing app instead the built in one. It kept auto changing back to default from time to time.
Xiaomi is always very good overall for its price, but right now I don't think there is a phone more complete than G6 for its price.
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You can always change software. Most of the xiaomi phones have a custom rom/software. As a senior member, you should know that I always change my rom when i hate stock one. I dont know about you, but i dont throw phones out because of firmware (except iphones and windows based phones xD).
Or should i get me the V30 for 200 euros more (500 total) I really want this Wide Camera and good Battery life. Altho v30 is a little bit to big for my hands.
I'm going to join in as I'm looking to buy a new phone. I was almost convinced that I would buy LG G6 but I just browsed G6 rom development forums and wow it's pretty stall. My current Galaxy S4 has more options inluding LOS 15,1.
I was also looking at Honor 10 but then I found out that Huawei blocks bootloaders so it's a no no for me.
Seems like XIAOMI phones have really solid community and plenty of roms to chose from.
Xiaomi MI6 and mentioned here Xiaomi MI8 SE look really great but they lack a few features I would like to have such us 3,5 mm jack, SD card slot.
Not sure what to do now I kind of not want to be stuck with LG G6 running stock Android 8,1 for another 2-3 years.

Convince me to get the mate 20 pro (vs pixel 3 xl/ op 6t)

Hey,
After an upgrade of my HTC U11+. A bit stuck to be honest on which one to go with as they all have big pluses and minuses. I think my ideal phone would be the mate 20 pro hardware with pixel software.
Will give my pro's and minuses below, please feel free to comment and advise as you see fit.
Mate 20 pro
++ Big battery
+ Not bad price wise (especially with the free watch)
+ cameras
+ nice colours
- Lack of updates??
Pixel 3 XL
++ best software
+ great camera
+ great update support
+ great speakers
-- average battery life
-expensive
Oneplus 6T (based on rumours
+price
+Smooth UI
+good support
- camera probably wont be as good as the other 2
-speakers wont be as good
+/- battery in the middle
Out of these three I'd definitely go with the Mate 20 Pro. the Pixel is boring and too ugly and no features at all (I wouldn't consider it at all unless I absolutely need their camera) , OP6 is just cheap price but is missing wireless charging, QHD display, IP68, stereo speakers, camera will be just average, AOD display, desktop mode, raise to wake, knuckle gestures, secure face unlock, etc. But if you don't care about those, the OP6 will be faster/smoother than Mate 20 pro and maybe their underdisplay implementation could be a little bit faster but we'll see
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
tsoureki said:
No bootloader unlock, no root, no mods, no roms vs oneplus and pixel unlimited development..
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I'm really hopeful that we'll at least get root...... I've preordered the Mate 20 Pro and will be selling my Pixel 2 xl, hope I don't live to regret it! Worst case scenario I'll sell it and switch...
Well Pixel XL 3 is trash. I returned mine after 2 days.
Oneplus 6T is a bang for buck type of phone
Mate 20 Pro I'm having issues getting one imported
Probably didn't help much but aye.
Goronok said:
I'm going through the same motions so can't "convince" you, but here are some additional thoughts.
*Pixel QC is still sub par. Quite a few hardware inconsistencies popping up. You won't see this with Huawei
*Pixel 3 speakers and haptics are FAR better
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Question marks behind software updates should be removed. This is definitely a negative mark against Huawei.
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
Huawei still isn't a brand developers seem to pay attention to, so bugs (think odd aspect ratio bugs) will take longer to get fixed.
*6T should be immediately disregarded unless cost or ROM support are of concern. Imagine you know this already.
Huawei hardware is beautiful, but the software and updates is a serious downer. (not just because it's a skin - EMUI looks fine visually imo) Ultimately, I think the ugly 3XL is still the better device for most..
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Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
mwatson said:
Great post, and for these reasons Huawei don't deserve £899 for their phone as pretty as it is. when the honeymoon period wears off you'll be noticing that lack of software support. I'm still debating getting a M20P myself, it would be easier if Huawei stepped their game up with software support and allowed the users to bypass background closures.
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I think you hit the nail on the head regarding honeymoon period. I had (2) P20 Pro's and I loved the hardware/camera, but quickly became annoyed with the fact that EMUI just doesn't "work" as an android phone should. After using MIUI 10 on a Mix 2s for a few weeks, I would say that Xiaomi's derivative feels more natural to use. /sad
Goronok said:
*Huawei software is bad for reasons people don't extrapolate upon
Lockscreen is abysmal. Unable to expand, reply, or interact with any notifications
Background app restrictions are seriously annoying. Google photos will randomly not backup like your using an iphone. Services like android messages for PC, Mightytext, or Pushbullet will randomly stop working, Dropbox background sync won't work consistently, etc.
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Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
arghness said:
Do you know if these issues are still there in the Mate 20 Pro? That and Android Auto (connecting to a head unit) are very important to me. I don't believe that worked correctly on previous Huawei devices either.
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Had someone on Reddit confirm that the lockscreen is still the same. Some have said it is a bug, but seems working as intended to me. (Been a "bug" since EMUI 8.1)
I haven't inquired about backgrounding issues. Not much point. This has been a thing with EMUI since day 1. (And other China OEMs too)
Thanks for the replies very helpful. I know the mate 20 pro is the best out of the bunch its whether i can live with EMUI. I had this in the past with samsung s6 edge, loved the phone but hated the software and ended up getting rid of it very quickly. I think if the pixel was £100 cheaper or had a bigger battery i would 100% go with that for the software experience.
The decision would be so much easier if they allowed bootloader unlock and custom roms would solve half the issues! Still no closer to the decision.
A couple of extra points
Mate 20 curved screen will be a pain for glass screen protectors so thats a -
Still cant work out if the UK model is single sim or dual sim! (says its micro sd expandable so is that where the extra sim goes)
I think the camera will be just as good as the pixel...in some ways better because of the wide angle lens etc. The pixel 3 probably will be the best point and shoot but I don't think either will dissapoint you
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
Phil750123 said:
I've bite the bullet and pre ordered the mate 20 pro.
What really turned the tide for me is 2 videos on youtube, 1 a speed comparison against the note 9 and it smashed it, which proved to me it wont be a laggy crappy software (mostly)
and 2nd a battery drain test which it got nearly 7 hours of SOT which was 2 hours better than the note 9 and 3 hours more than most of the others.
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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Hehe same thinking bud, yeah also saw some videos and pic comparisons on YouTube especially the mrwhosetheboss and i believe we should give the Huawei a go, like u said it's definitely blowin the note in most aspects and free watch is definitely a good bonus
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yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
Phil750123 said:
yer the watch did help me decide.
What i dont get in the UK is its 899 sim free, the pixel 3 xl 64gb is around 850 yet all the contracts for the huwaei are coming out about £5 a month less, also helped me decide.
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See i went with sim free but what got me here is 50 quid more for mate, and free watch and charger is 250, so basically mate is working out 200 quid cheaper and 6gb ram vs the 4 and this massive battey, when pixie 3 battery is sitting at 3400 compared to my pixel 2 xl 3500 with a smaller screen? Impulse buy but hey, if we somehow hate it, or cant get used to it... Swap or sell after few months right? It aint a new car xd
It's very easy : get the pixel 3 and then youll want to get the mate 20 Pro for sure!
Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Preorderd mine today. Can't wait to finish a day without worrying at all about the battery. That's the feature I'm most excited about, since every phone, at this price, seems to have a great camera and screen. Really not that excited that I'll get to open youtube a half a second faster than other phones. Also, EMUI can be improved with apps and themes.
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Pretty excited about this as well, I'm pretty sure I will still average about 6000 mah a day, I almost always charge from like 50 to 90% using wireless charging while at work but for the days I forgot to wireless charge, the fact that even if I get home with less than 5% and just plugging it in for like 15 minutes (instead of like 40 minutes like my note 9) and being back to like 40% to finish the day is amazing.
I agree

[QUESTION] Is POCO F1 Worth It AT 185 Dollars 6/128 GB Model? [22/10/2019]

Hello.
Right now, POCO F1 (6/128 GB Model) is being sold in India at appoximately 185 Dollars (Rs. 13,000) with all the discounts and deductions.
What I am looking for atleast 3 years from now?
- Respectable camera specs. Not professional but very much satisfactory till 2022 end.
- Good XDA community support and ROMs
- Lag-free day-to-day experience
I don't game so no such requirements.
If all the points mentioned above will be satisfied according to you then please do tell in the comments. Thanks a lot!
oye_abhinay said:
Hello.
Right now, POCO F1 (6/128 GB Model) is being sold in India at appoximately 185 Dollars (Rs. 13,000) with all the discounts and deductions.
What I am looking for atleast 3 years from now?
- Respectable camera specs. Not professional but very much satisfactory till 2022 end.
- Good XDA community support and ROMs
- Lag-free day-to-day experience
I don't game so no such requirements.
If all the points mentioned above will be satisfied according to you then please do tell in the comments. Thanks a lot!
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Camera is good but it won't last till 2022 as satisfactory camera considering already we see mobiles with 65mp camera. Also at current growth I don't think any mobile can last for 4 years. (f1 launched on 2018)
Xda support will be there till 2022 easily I guess considering still lot of top developers are working on poco device
Lag free yes currently I feel my mobile is on par with other mobiles in 20k price segment
oye_abhinay said:
Hello.
Right now, POCO F1 (6/128 GB Model) is being sold in India at appoximately 185 Dollars (Rs. 13,000) with all the discounts and deductions.
What I am looking for atleast 3 years from now?
- Respectable camera specs. Not professional but very much satisfactory till 2022 end.
- Good XDA community support and ROMs
- Lag-free day-to-day experience
I don't game so no such requirements.
If all the points mentioned above will be satisfied according to you then please do tell in the comments. Thanks a lot!
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POCO F1 is GOOD device in 2019 but you wana device that RUN till 2022 ? , thats hard to say bro!
i think by 2022 we will be having 5g everywhere, galileo Support (its next Gen of GPS), QLED and 21:9 HDR 8K perhaps been pusing out in devices! WHO KNOWS? 2022 is 3 years from now on! , perhaps ram would be 16gb in all midrange devices!
however having said that! I think YOU SHOULD NOT buy Poco because I personally believe i am not going to use poco till after Sep2020...
go for Xiaomi A3 , its on Android One and usually Android One devices are smoother in performance! and A3 is Led, Go for 6gb variant!
other Android One devices for you could be Nokia Midrange devices :s
Not worth it. Don't get this phone. It's a scam.
My best choice even after galaxy note 10. Srsly, tottaly worth it device. Best performance, battery life, exellent camera, overall tactile sensitive is 9/10. AND remember - this choice is subjective factor. My test device is N910F and its pretty good in the last quarter ot 2019, but for my specific usage, even i9300 is my working daily driver. I think the price is awesome for Poco, so dont scare to dive in!
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POCO F1 is GOOD device in 2019 but you wana device that RUN till 2022 ? , thats hard to say bro!
i think by 2022 we will be having 5g everywhere, galileo Support (its next Gen of GPS), QLED and 21:9 HDR 8K perhaps been pusing out in devices! WHO KNOWS? 2022 is 3 years from now on! , perhaps ram would be 16gb in all midrange devices!
however having said that! I think YOU SHOULD NOT buy Poco because I personally believe i am not going to use poco till after Sep2020...
go for Xiaomi A3 , its on Android One and usually Android One devices are smoother in performance! and A3 is Led, Go for 6gb variant!
other Android One devices for you could be Nokia Midrange devices :s
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Is that Tony 100raro? ;D
Take the Poco and do not hesitate. It is bang for the buck as ****. Whether or not it will become laggy depends on software, if they decide to degradenit, you will notice, Camera already starts being behind others, so by 2022 it will be defashioned. I am satisfied by the pictures it can give. So you should really focus on your opinion, cause the Poco greatness is repeated over and over again
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galileo Support (its next Gen of GPS), QLED and 21:9 HDR 8K perhaps been pusing out in devices!
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Galileo is only the european satellite system. It is already used by the pocophone. We even have dual GPS with L5 meaning increased accuracy in cities.
8K is not happening on phones. 7 years ago we already had FHD. Some manufacturers tried WQHD like LG G5 or even UHD with Sony XZ Premium in 2017 but most Phones stay at FHD or FHD+ because of 21:9 since this is enough for our eyes.
Camera, Software and maybe battery technology are the only major things which need improvement
idab710 said:
Not worth it. Don't get this phone. It's a scam.
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People feel "scammed" because a 1 1/2 year old device doesn't have the next android update instantaneously. I am happy with the update policy and it is still amongst the first to be updated. Huge community development and fpr less than 200$ a no brainer compared to mid range devices coming out.
TCL announced a new phone for 300€ with way worse specs, nokias cant compare at this price point either. Sure I'd like a wide angle cam, OIS and a few other things. But thats not happening for less than 400€
lolmensch said:
Galileo is only the european satellite system. It is already used by the pocophone. We even have dual GPS with L5 meaning increased accuracy in cities.
8K is not happening on phones. 7 years ago we already had FHD. Some manufacturers tried WQHD like LG G5 or even UHD with Sony XZ Premium in 2017 but most Phones stay at FHD or FHD+ because of 21:9 since this is enough for our eyes.
Camera, Software and maybe battery technology are the only major things which need improvement
People feel "scammed" because a 1 1/2 year old device doesn't have the next android update instantaneously. I am happy with the update policy and it is still amongst the first to be updated. Huge community development and fpr less than 200$ a no brainer compared to mid range devices coming out.
TCL announced a new phone for 300€ with way worse specs, nokias cant compare at this price point either. Sure I'd like a wide angle cam, OIS and a few other things. But thats not happening for less than 400€
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thanks for the insight, i have xzp and it stays on fhd only! however answering to the question here, 2022 is far ahead where mobiles are concern. I believe even TODAY, its ONLY SONY that is using 21:9 screen ratio in Xperia1 & Xperia5 and now soon to be in xperia 8.
most of the High end Xiaomi phones are on 19.5:9 ratio, (including Huawei Mate 30 Pro 5G)
so by 2022 we will be having 21:9 ratio in most of the fones
more over, I think if he wana use fone for 3 years then He should buy something in LED line, Poco has LCD only with Screen Bleed issues, even my Poco has a fine double shade line on the left side of the screen (noticed from day1). so in my opinion and price range he should buy A3 (or any ANdroid One phone on LED).
P/s , A3 is on SD665 (where Poco is 845), and A3 has NO liquid cooling system,
but then on SD6xx series you don't need one! I used RN5p for many months! it never lag (SD636) --- A3 has 4gb ram but make sure you find 6gb variant
Prior to the Poco, I was someone who changed phones every year. I'm not saying I always bought the expensive ones but I always changed every year to what I needed at the time. My Poco right now is more than a year old but I have no intention to get a new phone.
The entire forum is filled with threads on touch issues and people claiming that Xaiomi is slowing down devices with every update.
I honestly haven't found a single issue with this phone.
I love how fast it performs . Iove how it just gets its intended job done without any hiccups. And with 9 hours screen on time, this is easily one of the only phones that last this long.
However, coming to your question (I'm using the 6/128 myself)... Technology moves fast. Buying last year's top Gen is often a smart choice for the wallet, but not in the eyes of the corporations.
If you want to buy this phone, go for it.
It has amazing performance, an amazing camera and most of all amazing battery life. These are the things that matter.
My genuine advice however is that you get a newer phone. Even if it's weaker than the 845. Corporations want you to move on to the the latest.
My advice, get the ROG Phone II
It ticks all the right boxes and it's future proof till 2021.
However if you're looking for a phone that just does well, a POCO at 15k isn't a bad deal. I actually love my Poco even though I can buy more expensive phones. Hu

good buy 2020?

Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
just boughtit earlier today, worth it imo unless you have access to k20 pro. In my country K20 Pro and k20 considered illegal(need to check the official mi website, if its there based on your country,its legal. in my case there is no K20 and k20 pro in my country) so i can't buy it (i do can buy but it will have imei problem and the device can't be used anymore after 14 days)
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Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
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Don't know what country you are from bro, but here's my take.
The Poco is still an amazing phone that holds up to this date. It has the latest Q software and current MIUI 11, which should be updated to MIUI 12 this year. This is a company that took care of the original buyers (since Poco originally under xiaomi) by providing updates up to this day. Sure it's not perfect, but what device and manufacturer is. But note that this may be the last update we are going to get. This is almost a 2 year old phone, and as you know most manufacturers don't even provide a 3rd major update (this was an exception). Don't fret though as this is a phone that a lot of enthusiasts have and a lot are still making ROMS for this phone, so even if we may not get an update beyond this year, we may still get some from the devs here.
Another point to take is that this phone is still a beast. Forget those guys who claims their phones slow down etc, most of them rely on benchmarks which is not always the way to see whether a phone is bad or not. Based on personal experiences, I've rarely experienced any lags on this phone and neither had any touch issues. Btw, I've unlocked the phone and rooted, but aside from substratum and lucky patcher for some games, I've seldom made any other changes on it (of course providing root access to greenify and sd cleaner, but nothing major like adding xposed and such). This may be why I've never had such issues because as you know if you have altered the phone a lot, complications may arise if you update.
So like i said, this phone holds up. I play NBA2K20, Asphalt, Pubg and other mobile intensive games and rarely experienced any major issues. The sd845 holds up.
As for cams, that may be the weakest point of this phone. I mean for the price it is great. It provides a solid enough cam experience that you can use it to capture good photos for insta and fb. But it won't blow you away. The front cam is great. The IR Cam is so useful in any situation to unlock the phone whether it's on your desk, even in the dark.
Battery life holds up nicely. Sure it doesn't give me a long life like before, but during intense gaming of about 3 hours, I still have about 25 to 30 percent left. The charging is good too. It's not as blazing fast as most phones today, but should suffice.
That said. Here's a major talking point. The phone is old, it shows in the cam and possibly no further major update (aside from maybe security patches), but you can rely on xda devs to provide support still. But if you can get your hands on a K20 Pro or K30 Pro, then get your hands on them. Not only will you get either last year's phone with about a year or two more of updates, but updated specs, or the current redmi flagship killer with about 2 years to 3 (if they follow the current poco trend) but you'd have a future proof phone as it has 5G and a more versatile cam array with the latest processor.
This depends on your budget too. If you're looking for a lower price than the last year redmi or current, then I'd go with the Poco than latest midrangers due to the power of the SD845, I'm not a cam user much anyway. But if you need a better cam and not much into power then the current midrangers can offer that for you and I'm not disparaging midrangers, the current processors are powerful, but not yet to the power of the sd845 despite it being a 2 to 3 year old processor
Just got it this week, working great! I had less budget and great expectations!!
So got myself a 8gb armored edition!
I am not big fan of taking selfies and pics.
Poco f1 has got update to Android 10. The snap 845 is still being used by some premium phones.

Question Experience with the performance of the vivo x80 pro and potential heating issues

I've been wanting to get this phone as my daily driver. I've been wanting something with stellar performance and a top notch camera.
If I do end up getting it, I want to use it for four years.
I'm coming from a oneplus 6, which has handled its fair share of hardcore usage. From heavy multi tasking, to having its hot-spot stay on for 12 hours a day, to heavy gaming, and a phone loaded with data, Its seen it all. https://omegle.onl/ vshare
I wanted to know whether the vivo users here think that the x80 pro will be able to take such hardcore usage day in and out for at least 4-5 years?
I am just a little worried before I spend all this money on a brand which I know very little about. Especially because most of the information online seems to be "sponsored" by vivo. I mean the phone does look really promising on paper. But would it be able to take this beating in real life?
I also heard that the vivo x80 pro heats up doing regular things such as watching YouTube videos etc. and that I'd be better off waiting for the vivo x80 pro plus. Would that be a good idea? I was really looking forward to the vivo. So any input would be appreciated.
ahirameno said:
I've been wanting to get this phone as my daily driver. I've been wanting something with stellar performance and a top notch camera.
If I do end up getting it, I want to use it for four years.
I'm coming from a oneplus 6, which has handled its fair share of hardcore usage. From heavy multi tasking, to having its hot-spot stay on for 12 hours a day, to heavy gaming, and a phone loaded with data, Its seen it all.
I wanted to know whether the vivo users here think that the x80 pro will be able to take such hardcore usage day in and out for at least 4-5 years?
I am just a little worried before I spend all this money on a brand which I know very little about. Especially because most of the information online seems to be "sponsored" by vivo. I mean the phone does look really promising on paper. But would it be able to take this beating in real life?
I also heard that the vivo x80 pro heats up doing regular things such as watching YouTube videos etc. and that I'd be better off waiting for the vivo x80 pro plus. Would that be a good idea? I was really looking forward to the vivo. So any input would be appreciated.
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Hello, better you wait until next month as the vivo x80 Pro Plus will be released. Even if the Pro Plus version isn't for you, the Pro will drop in price, so you have nothing to lose. Regarding heating up, I've heard that from many users. Heating issue is mainly with the snapdragon version, the dimensity Version seems to have less heat & much better battery life. The pro plus version will use the 8+ Gen 1, so the heating issue may be significantly less. If I was you, just wait until next month for the release of the Pro Plus version & take things from there. Me personally, I'm going for the Huawei Mate 50 Pro, which will also be released within 10 days, as I'm still a firm believer that the Huawei Mate series are the camera kings.

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