good buy 2020? - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

good buy 2020? - Xiaomi Poco F1 Questions & Answers

Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera

just boughtit earlier today, worth it imo unless you have access to k20 pro. In my country K20 Pro and k20 considered illegal(need to check the official mi website, if its there based on your country,its legal. in my case there is no K20 and k20 pro in my country) so i can't buy it (i do can buy but it will have imei problem and the device can't be used anymore after 14 days)

sutty86 said:
Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
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Don't know what country you are from bro, but here's my take.
The Poco is still an amazing phone that holds up to this date. It has the latest Q software and current MIUI 11, which should be updated to MIUI 12 this year. This is a company that took care of the original buyers (since Poco originally under xiaomi) by providing updates up to this day. Sure it's not perfect, but what device and manufacturer is. But note that this may be the last update we are going to get. This is almost a 2 year old phone, and as you know most manufacturers don't even provide a 3rd major update (this was an exception). Don't fret though as this is a phone that a lot of enthusiasts have and a lot are still making ROMS for this phone, so even if we may not get an update beyond this year, we may still get some from the devs here.
Another point to take is that this phone is still a beast. Forget those guys who claims their phones slow down etc, most of them rely on benchmarks which is not always the way to see whether a phone is bad or not. Based on personal experiences, I've rarely experienced any lags on this phone and neither had any touch issues. Btw, I've unlocked the phone and rooted, but aside from substratum and lucky patcher for some games, I've seldom made any other changes on it (of course providing root access to greenify and sd cleaner, but nothing major like adding xposed and such). This may be why I've never had such issues because as you know if you have altered the phone a lot, complications may arise if you update.
So like i said, this phone holds up. I play NBA2K20, Asphalt, Pubg and other mobile intensive games and rarely experienced any major issues. The sd845 holds up.
As for cams, that may be the weakest point of this phone. I mean for the price it is great. It provides a solid enough cam experience that you can use it to capture good photos for insta and fb. But it won't blow you away. The front cam is great. The IR Cam is so useful in any situation to unlock the phone whether it's on your desk, even in the dark.
Battery life holds up nicely. Sure it doesn't give me a long life like before, but during intense gaming of about 3 hours, I still have about 25 to 30 percent left. The charging is good too. It's not as blazing fast as most phones today, but should suffice.
That said. Here's a major talking point. The phone is old, it shows in the cam and possibly no further major update (aside from maybe security patches), but you can rely on xda devs to provide support still. But if you can get your hands on a K20 Pro or K30 Pro, then get your hands on them. Not only will you get either last year's phone with about a year or two more of updates, but updated specs, or the current redmi flagship killer with about 2 years to 3 (if they follow the current poco trend) but you'd have a future proof phone as it has 5G and a more versatile cam array with the latest processor.
This depends on your budget too. If you're looking for a lower price than the last year redmi or current, then I'd go with the Poco than latest midrangers due to the power of the SD845, I'm not a cam user much anyway. But if you need a better cam and not much into power then the current midrangers can offer that for you and I'm not disparaging midrangers, the current processors are powerful, but not yet to the power of the sd845 despite it being a 2 to 3 year old processor

Just got it this week, working great! I had less budget and great expectations!!
So got myself a 8gb armored edition!
I am not big fan of taking selfies and pics.
Poco f1 has got update to Android 10. The snap 845 is still being used by some premium phones.

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Very conflicted about whether to buy the Le Max 2

Having a very hard time deciding whether to buy this phone or get a simple Redmi Note 4X.
Seeing how little real world performance difference there appears to be between the two is kind of turning me off to this phone because of it's seemingly numerous issues. I don't plan on doing a whole lot of heavy tasks/gaming per say so I'd imagine the SD 625 could handle my needs very well. I plan on flashing custom roms and not keeping stock.
Things I like about the Le Max 2:
Screen
Camera - Fairly important to me and I understand the 4x's camera is awful
Performance - Would be nice to have but doesn't seem completely necessary
Things I dislike about the Le Max 2/Concerns:
Dead fingerprint readers galore? I've read about flashing FW but the threads seem to have mixed results. - Added a poll to this thread to possibly figure out what my chances of a bad/dead fp reader are.
Seen two reports of data on the 3g 1900mhz PCS band not working - very important to me
Have to carry a USB C to 3.5mm adapter around - not a big deal, just slightly annoying.
Battery Life is average/below average
Camera bump - easily scratch lens
Bezel around the screen isn't my favorite
Cost of the 4X is around ~$210 CAD, le Max 2 is ~$270 CAD. Open to all thoughts, and suggestions.

I would only go for RN4X if you truly are a "battery freak" haha. It's not a bad device, but despite the better battery, it loses in everything to LM2.
Also, since you mentioned that you'll be using Custom ROM, keep in mind that you'll have even worse camera on RN4X.
LM2 has it flaws like average battery and problematic FP sensor, but I still believe it's an amazing option. To be honest, I bought mine last week from Gearbest and I'm still waiting for it to arrive.
If you don't mind smaller screen size, Zuk Z2, Mi5/Mi5s and Honor 8 are also good options and you'll have top specs and good battery.

I just bought and sold note 4x and bought le max 2. Note 4x even though has a lower spec . cpu it feels more polished and fluid . For note 4x there are 2 camera sensors used in the production. Sony one is okayish ,but samsung one is plain bad. I have a 10 mo daughter, i sold it just because i use the camera alot.
Le max 2 battery is an issue though... Get ready to carry round a powerbank. If you have specific questions let me know.

Le Max 2 battery is not that bad it's pretty good consider it got 2k screen. Battery charge really fast maybe need to recharge one time per day. It's just a little big and bulky if you don't like big size phone and FP is problematic, you will be lucky if its not dead. Still for 64Gb/4Gb ram less than $200 it's steal.

well i can get 4 hrs sot, which is bad compared to note 4x 's min 7 hrs. If you are not in to VR there is no point of 2K screen... in that case Le pro 3 becomes more attractive ...
Yes it has SD820, and min4 gb ram but the software is so sluggish it feels way less powerful... Yes you can flash a custom 7.1.2 rom and it will fly but your camera and battery life gets worse...

The fact that there are basically no good ROMs for this phablet should scare you a lot more than whether the fingerprint scanner works or not.
Official ROMs are rife with unneeded software and their UI is reminiscent of iOS which I personally loathe, while open source ROMs struggle with many features, like speakerphone mode (which basically doesn't work), camera functions (no 4K, broken flash, broken focusing), lags and very low recording volume.
Also, like mentioned above, this phone has a very weak battery for its QHD screen.
God, fingerprint sensor. The most useless and insecure feature of any smartphone.

Here's my objective review. Earlier in the year I sold off my OnePlus 3T in anticipation of the OnePlus 5. I set out to look for placeholder phone that I could use in the meantime, a best bang for the buck phone. For $196, I couldn't find a better than the Le Max 2. After further research, I became weary about buying it, but after a proper assessment, it appeared that the fingerprint reader issue wasn't as widespread problem. The threads in question are old, don't get that many new complaints or replies anymore for that matter, usually the same group of people looking for a solution. Also, people keep confusing the actual hardware defect, with the fact that you need to use one of the newer modems (23S or the recommended 419D) for the fingerprint reader to function properly on many of custom ROMs.
I personally bought two of the US variant, the gray 4GB/64GB X829 from Banggood. As expected, the fingerprint readers on both phones worked, and continue to do so. The fingerprint reader is not fast as the one found on the OnePlus 3T, but I've yet to see another phone that has one that's even as fast. You'll be on the home screen within a second of placing your finger on the reader. As far as the accuracy goes, it's actually been really accurate, but I mostly attribute that to the fact that the case I use helps in aligning my finger dead center on the reader. Speaking of case, I bought a black one from banggood that's similar to the Spigen Rugged Armor that I love, and it complements the black bezels of the Le Max 2, so I'm over that small annoyance. Check the picture out.
I wasn't a fan of the stock ROM, but it's usable, but if you want a reliable Marshmallow alternative, I recommend Small EUI, but the Nougat ROMs have come far along, especially this last week, to where I have flashed them on both my Le Max 2's and are now my daily drivers. In that case, I would recommend Resurrection Remix.
Performance was always great, similar to my old OnePlus 3 in the early days, but the battery life on the Le Max 2 has improved greatly on Resurrection Remix I get 5 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time with moderate use. I don't play any android games, but I do watch plenty of video podcasts on YouTube, do a lot of school research on chrome for my essays, use Facebook, Instagram, Spotify, and Tidal often. Check the pictures.
Objectivity aside..
I would recommend this phone to you, especially if you like to flash things and tinker. In fact, I like this phone so much, that I wouldn't mind skipping the OnePlus 5 this time around, and I'm close to adding the Le Max 2 to the list of best phone's I've ever used, joining the OnePlus One, OnePlus 3, OnePlus 3T, because of its price to performance ratio, XDA community, and feature set. The IR blaster comes in handy, the QHD display is great, I actually prefer it to the one on the LG V20 because the one I had for a little while had some wicked light bleeding because of the ticker display, the camera is actually pretty good too better than the one on the Le Pro3 which I also had for a little while last year. I wouldn't record in 4K without a gimbal or tripod though, but I did the same with my OnePlus 3T.

Anything less than snapdragon 820 is garbage. This phone is cold, fast, and cheap. Any issue can be fixed with a new Rom

unrafa said:
Anything less than snapdragon 820 is garbage. This phone is cold, fast, and cheap. Any issue can be fixed with a new Rom
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Fix camera (basically totally broken with LOS/RR) and speakerphone mode (broken with LOS) with a new ROM, huh? Two paramount features of any smartphone.

birdie said:
Fix camera (basically totally broken with LOS/RR) and speakerphone mode (broken with LOS) with a new ROM, huh? Two paramount features of any smartphone.
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Dude, tone it down a little, you're worse than my little sister in exaggerating things... The camera works, it's no where near "totally broken" or unusable... Also, Lineage OS is not the end all be all as far as ROMs go with this device, so let's not paint a picture here with broad strokes. There are plenty of well supported ROMs for the Le Max 2, and progress is being made. I now get 5 hours and 30 minutes of screen on time on RR with 15% to spare. I couldn't say the same two weeks ago...

People that complaining this and that get off the tread and sold the thing its your choice. Everything work well except the FP, many of custom roms if you like flashing them. So nothing to bitter about.

rickyx32 said:
There are plenty of well supported ROMs for the Le Max 2, and progress is being made.
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There are basically four ROMs for this phone: two stock, Chinese and Indian, and two open source, RR and LOS. Other ROMs are for people who don't care about the security and safety of their bank accounts and private lives. I wonder how on earth one can trust a ROM created by a random John Doe from God knows where. Will you trust a ROM created specifically by me? Well, then, why do you advocate for the similar ROMs distributed via xda-dev forums?

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There are basically four ROMs for this phone: two stock, Chinese and Indian, and two open source, RR and LOS. Other ROMs are for people who don't care about the security and safety of their bank accounts and private lives. I wonder how on earth one can trust a ROM created by a random John Doe from God knows where. Will you trust a ROM created specifically by me? Well, then, why do you advocate for the similar ROMs distributed via xda-dev forums?
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Most of the "other Roms" you mentioned are from the same dev of RR. So, if you don't trust them, you can't trust RR.
Also, if you follow your logic, only the Chinese and Indian ROMs are trustable, cause both RR and LOS were made by "a random John Doe from God knows where".
Stop being so paranoic. Every one can discover everything about your life these days. It's not a ROM that will change that.
Peace.:angel:

"Everyone" cannot access my bank account or siphon my information behind my back.
LeTV/RR/LOS all have a reputation to keep and they are represented by real people with real accounts/identities - conversely random Doe Johns here at xda-dev may disappear without a trace in an instant. But I guess you may give me your banking account information if you're so confident, no? Then what the fecking fock are you talking about?

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"Everyone" cannot access my bank account or siphon my information behind my back.
LeTV/RR/LOS all have a reputation to keep and they are represented by real people with real accounts/identities - conversely random Doe Johns here at xda-dev may disappear without a trace in an instant. But I guess you may give me your banking account information if you're so confident, no? Then what the fecking fock are you talking about?
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You do raise a good point, and I can't argue against that concern. It's been years since I heard anyone else raise that concern, but I do wonder just how feasible it is to do today and if there have been any cases of this kind of theft within the XDA community.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi Max 2, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi Max 2 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

According to me, it is one of the best phones in this price range. Overall performance is very much satisfactory

My Mi Max 2 arrived two days ago, i'm really really happy, battery lasts two days with strong use, and everything is smooth. It was not so easy to go through the unlock procedure but now i'm done.

Me to, very happy so far. Coming from Samsung Note4, and that seems to be the end of Samsung phones for me!

Mach III said:
Me to, very happy so far. Coming from Samsung Note4, and that seems to be the end of Samsung phones for me!
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How does it compare to your old note 4? I have a note 2 that is just about completely dead and hope for a sizeable jump - my only real worry is camera quality.

Mach III said:
Me to, very happy so far. Coming from Samsung Note4, and that seems to be the end of Samsung phones for me!
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Me too, i want to know as my note 4 is failing and would like to upgrade

I've a Note 3 running Resurrection rom. Just got this last Friday and love the bigger screen, I remember getting the note 1 and nobody could believe the size, and now the note 3 is just about average, lol. Anyways I'll be missing the stylus and removable battery, but other than that it seems good. Just waiting for the 72 hrs to pass so that I can root and unlock the thing. For less than half the price of a Note 8 and the same price here as a second-hand several year old note 4 I don't think you can do wrong.

FlamingGoat said:
I've a Note 3 running Resurrection rom. Just got this last Friday and love the bigger screen, I remember getting the note 1 and nobody could believe the size, and now the note 3 is just about average, lol. Anyways I'll be missing the stylus and removable battery, but other than that it seems good. Just waiting for the 72 hrs to pass so that I can root and unlock the thing. For less than half the price of a Note 8 and the same price here as a second-hand several year old note 4 I don't think you can do wrong.
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Buddy, How is the screen quality conpared to the note 3?
It's amoled vs lcd / 380dpi vs 344dpi. Im really considering this one or the LG V20?
Is it too big for pockets?

Screen seems ok to me, it's not as vivid but wil do the job browsing and reading pdfs which is my main use. I've thousands of photos too and they seem ok. Sizewise it's longer and sticks out a little bit from my pockets but not enough to bother me.

I am in love with this device, But bit disappointing with MIUI which uses more ram. Waiting for stable custom rom.:fingers-crossed:

I have a Redmi Note 3. I'm looking for a larger phone. My mom wants to take my Redmi once I get a new phone.
My only concern with this phone is custom ROM support as I don't like using MIUI. Are the chances this will be supported by LineageOS officialy sometime soon? (Mi Max 1 seems to have great custom ROM support). If yes, I'll be buying this phone right away.
Also, I'm confused. Some pages mention this phone has NFC and some don't. Does it have NFC. Doesn't affect my descision to buy this phone but still.

Pet Elite said:
How does it compare to your old note 4? I have a note 2 that is just about completely dead and hope for a sizeable jump - my only real worry is camera quality.
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carlosggb said:
Me too, i want to know as my note 4 is failing and would like to upgrade
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Yes, only thing I'm missing is the picture quality from Samsung, even though it was very much slower to focus, noticed specially when scanning bar codes. In very dark envioment it can be seen that it has ips screen and not amoled. But it cost 1/5 of a new Samsung Note, so i don't care. Specially since my Note4 failed with the "mmc_failed" error after 2 years, and Samsung wont emit it's a production failure.

Camera Quality
Pet Elite said:
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now the quality of mi max 2 is better than mi max 1
i have both Mi Max 1 and 2

Decent but the lack of multi color LED notification is a big downer.

Battery was awesome

but a little unconformtable when heat

10 -- except for the battery ...
I got the phone cheap $229 4/64 (it was 199 yesterday at Gearbest). TOTAL LOVE. Perfect build quality. Fast. Gets a great signal on AT&T (the only signal in my neighborhood). Better than my Samsung despite AT&T's claims it would barely work at all. Yes, it says H+ on the display instead of 4g, but I suspect I was getting H+ already, marketed as 4g, which is what they do in the states.
What's more, I'm getting Volte now with AT&T prepaid -- prepaid customers don't get Volte! (Not that it's much use with this carrier).
In call volume is fine and the speaker quality is great. It wasn't loaded with crapware and unrooted, I was able to disable some system apps (some apps, like the calculator, are terrific).
Regarding the battery: I got a lemon. It's lasting a full day, maybe a day and a half -- but I'm a light user! No gaming, not even online much. I don't run anything except for downloaded audiobooks. But it goes to show you how much I love the phone that I wouldn't even consider sending it back for warranty service. All the way to China? I'd be without it for days, maybe weeks!
It's not perfect. I can't believe TV out is missing -- no way to connect to a monitor with OTG, no matter how many adaptors you use, I'm told. And Xiaomi's firmware prevents you from doing full backups or downloading nonessential updates unless you're on wifi. They claim you can toggle this, but they're sneaky buggers ... you toggle, it says downloading, but when you look for the completed file it says 'scheduled'. I *****ed and moaned in the forum, but hundreds have cried before me, to no avail.
There are a few odd little paternalistic issues with the OS -- not that ATT and Samsung don't dictate what I can do with my device and service -- they're a thousand times worse -- but their preferred forms of control are motivated by profit, not concern for what's 'good' for me. What do they care if I guzzle data?
On the other hand, Xiaomi employees actually monitor the forums. After the major software update, they solicited bug reports and issued fixes for them in a couple of days -- even for the minor bugs.
On a 1 to 10 scale, the phone is a 20, and I'm thrilled to learn they have a wide range of electronics to check out because -- so long Samsung, you suckered this consumer for the last time.

I do love Xiaomi Mi Max 2 except one thing. I can't unlock bootloader on MIUI 9 Global Stable, I get the error 86006 (with some Chinese letters). I know that it can be fixed by flashing on developper rom but I would like to get it fixed without flashing the device.

bezbod said:
I do love Xiaomi Mi Max 2 except one thing. I can't unlock bootloader on MIUI 9 Global Stable, I get the error 86006 (with some Chinese letters). I know that it can be fixed by flashing on developper rom but I would like to get it fixed without flashing the device.
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Yep, I had the same problem. I don't understand why Xiaomi does this.
I ended up giving in and installed a fresh dev ROM and then it worked perfectly.

Loving mine in Canada. I am a heavy user minus gaming(unless you count Scrabble) and I get 2 full days on a charge consistently. I stream sports and movies onto it, lots of music and other normal surfing/social media stuff and it doesn't get hot and the battery just keeps on going. It's early but so far I would definitely recommend the phone and the company. Excellent build quality and attention to detail. This phone was made with me in mind

How's the poco f1 now in Q3 2019?

What's the general feel on the phone - solid?
How's the current development - kernels for miui?
Any common defects in this line ?
How much slower is it than 855 in gpu?
Is it a good option for ~$230-$250 (6/128) ?

if u r not into the looks of the phone or u r the guy who uses back covers....and can live with average display...this is still the best phone under 250$...and xiaomi still giving updates on security patch and other bug fixes and miui updates....
1. it feels solid the build quality is really good. its little bit heavier than otherr phone but once u get used to this phone the weight will not bother u much..i get 6 hours of sot on average it will last whole day...i am facing no defects till now...it is quite slower than 855 but difference is not much considering the price difference of this and the k20 pro...

nakulp said:
What's the general feel on the phone - solid?
yes its solid
How's the current development - kernels for miui?
dying
Any common defects in this line ?
horrible lcd display with bizzare touch issues
How much slower is it than 855 in gpu?
a bit slower
Is it a good option for ~$230-$250 (6/128) ?
its not an option at all,dont waste your money on a phone with horrible touch!!.(even if poeple tell you their poco is working fine you cant guarantee your unit will work properly)...xiaomi has practically dumped the poco f1!/QUOTE]
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ron_hyatt said:
nakulp said:
What's the general feel on the phone - solid?
yes its solid
How's the current development - kernels for miui?
dying
Any common defects in this line ?
horrible lcd display with bizzare touch issues
How much slower is it than 855 in gpu?
a bit slower
Is it a good option for ~$230-$250 (6/128) ?
its not an option at all,dont waste your money on a phone with horrible touch!!.(even if poeple tell you their poco is working fine you cant guarantee your unit will work properly)...xiaomi has practically dumped the poco f1!/QUOTE]
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this is so true, paying extra go for OnePlus 7 or even k20 pro , screen is bad ,i mean really bad, miui is dying its true. touch is bad, i m having screen bleeding issue .
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I recently bought it and very satisfied. Exceeds expectations. I see people are having touch screen defects, I don't have, I live in eastern Europe and I have warranty for two years, if something goes back I give it to the warranty service while they provide replacement during the service period. I hope this won't happen but yeah, for the price the phone is gold. Powerful, stable, bright and colorful display. People always talk about phone displays like they even understand color science or work on the phone to color grade movies. I recommend the phone and if there is touch issues, test before u buy the unit.

Gowcoizer said:
I recently bought it and very satisfied. Exceeds expectations. I see people are having touch screen defects, I don't have, I live in eastern Europe and I have warranty for two years, if something goes back I give it to the warranty service while they provide replacement during the service period. I hope this won't happen but yeah, for the price the phone is gold. Powerful, stable, bright and colorful display. People always talk about phone displays like they even understand color science or work on the phone to color grade movies. I recommend the phone and if there is touch issues, test before u buy the unit.
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xiaomi stores sells you the phone in a sealed box, you cant test before you buy and the official warranty can sometimes be a joke when the authorized service center are a bunch of amateurs.
and by the way,my unit worked fine for more than 6 months and am 80% sure my touch problem is software related but xiaomi just dont have the will to fix it!!

kartik17 said:
if u r not into the looks of the phone or u r the guy who uses back covers....and can live with average display...this is still the best phone under 250$...and xiaomi still giving updates on security patch and other bug fixes and miui updates....
1. it feels solid the build quality is really good. its little bit heavier than otherr phone but once u get used to this phone the weight will not bother u much..i get 6 hours of sot on average it will last whole day...i am facing no defects till now...it is quite slower than 855 but difference is not much considering the price difference of this and the k20 pro...
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Yes I'm totally a functionality over form type of guy so fps>glassback lol
Thanks:highfive:

ron_hyatt said:
xiaomi stores sells you the phone in a sealed box, you cant test before you buy and the official warranty can sometimes be a joke when the authorized service center are a bunch of amateurs.
and by the way,my unit worked fine for more than 6 months and am 80% sure my touch problem is software related but xiaomi just dont have the will to fix it!!
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Do you think the bug got introduced in between some firmware update?
I've read some kernels trying to implement the touch fix bug for some panels, have you seen it?

nakulp said:
Do you think the bug got introduced in between some firmware update?
I've read some kernels trying to implement the touch fix bug for some panels, have you seen it?
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i,ve been living in a nightmare for the past 3 weeks since the touch issues started out of nowhere....i read and commented in every thread that discussed touch issues,kernels.....etc on xda and i am almost sure its a software issue that may have been introduced (god knows why).
DONT invest money in xiaomi(my old xiaomi mi max 1 touch is way better than poco f1).....they make phones with much less quality everyday.....just a tech/spec race.

nakulp said:
What's the general feel on the phone - solid?
How's the current development - kernels for miui?
Any common defects in this line ?
How much slower is it than 855 in gpu?
Is it a good option for ~$230-$250 (6/128) ?
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Seems feedback is all over the place. So I speak for myself, and for a friend who bought the pocophone as well (both bought in Belgium):
- really solid battery life
- MIUI os is stable enough (10.3.6.0), no major bugs, although not on the level of f.e. Samsung's UI.
- screen is below average, but that we knew upfront
- performance is the best selling point for this thing. It is fast, and smooth
- no touch issues
- no screen bleed issues
- ridiculously low price for the hardware used
- camera is pretty good, but search XDA for the gcam adaptation. It pulls the most from the sensor.
- screen is scratch resistant for now (own it for a few months without screen protector)
- the soft case that comes with the phone is kinda cheap, but does the trick
- it charges fast
- Xiaomi was a kind of a gamble for me as they are not well known for swift updates and long term maintenance. But I can always unlock the bootloader and install an aosp version such as pixel experience. For now, they come with regular updates but always are 2month behind (so now in August we have the June security update.
- One intermittent issue with Bluetooth (in combination with my mercedes): sometimes audio stutters for a second. Deactivating bluetooth and reactivating it on the phone solves it and we're good again for a few weeks.
All in all: a really good phone if you don't use it in very bright outside conditions (again: screen is below average). I come from a Samsung S7 edge, and I only miss it's high res amoled screen to an extent. The latter is undeniably better in color representation and brightness.
You want a better screen for the same price, try a Samsung A40. But performance and battery life will take a severe hit.
Also, people tend to compare them to equally performant smartphones, but they are typically in another price range. Don't do that, compare apples to apples and decide: you want the performance, or you want a nice screen / fancy looking smartphone?

Nothing in the same price range comes close to it

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Nothing in the same price range comes close to it
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Agreed, have had the phone since March this year and have had none of the issues that keep getting mentioned on various Pocophone threads. This phone for me is perfect on MIUI 10.3.6.0 Global Stable for my use. Some YouTube, Facebook, Netflix and usually an hour of PUBG and/or Blades daily and normal texting/WhatsApp and calls. Usually have 30% battery left by bedtime.
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Had mine about a month, love it.
Coming from an HTC U12 which had useless buttons and a display that you can't see in sunshine I tried an Exynos S10e which could not hold a phone call for any length of time. Personally I couldn't find anything else on the market that wasn't huge that had a flagship SOC (albeit last years), SD card slot, headphone jack and unlockable bootloader.
Haven't had any of the issues others have, mine is a global version bought in the UK but I had to get rid of MIUI, so there is plenty of AOSP roms to try.
Fwiw I've settled on AOSiP and arter97 kernel and get 6-8 hours SOT and a phone that keeps calls when I'm driving around.
The only downside is the camera is just about fine.

MrN1484 said:
Had mine about a month, love it.
Coming from an HTC U12 which had useless buttons and a display that you can't see in sunshine I tried an Exynos S10e which could not hold a phone call for any length of time. Personally I couldn't find anything else on the market that wasn't huge that had a flagship SOC (albeit last years), SD card slot, headphone jack and unlockable bootloader.
Haven't had any of the issues others have, mine is a global version bought in the UK but I had to get rid of MIUI, so there is plenty of AOSP roms to try.
Fwiw I've settled on AOSiP and arter97 kernel and get 6-8 hours SOT and a phone that keeps calls when I'm driving around.
The only downside is the camera is just about fine.
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Did you try gcam .apk ? You just install it and it levels up the camera experience by miles! Check it out on a thread in here!

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Did you try gcam .apk ? You just install it and it levels up the camera experience by miles! Check it out on a thread in here!
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Couldn't agree more. Great fun playing with Nightsight too

jackshot said:
Did you try gcam .apk ? You just install it and it levels up the camera experience by miles! Check it out on a thread in here!
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Yep! Coming from an HTC though and missing OIS the Xiaomi is still second place. For the price though its great!

There is Oneplus rom port for Poco F1. I tried it's pretty nice, faster, smoother and touch is better/sharper, battery about the same as use Miui rom (I use vendor-firmware 9.6.27 for Oneplus rom)

I am from India and I can tell that the phone launched (6, 64) at ₹21000.
Now in the Flipkart sale you can get it at 16.5k.
I myself have ordered it today.
One of the main reasons to buy this phone is that it has excellent development support at xda community and unlocking the bootloader won't void your warranty. So If you are into custom ROMs this is best flagship level budget device.
Myself being a custom ROM enthusiast, I decided to go with it.
So Yes even today this is great value for money phone despite it lacks few things like it is really ugly looking because of that huge notch and considering all new even budget phones are coming with the drop notch or full screen display, this is a trade-off.

i'd say go for it its worth the price, i've had it for around 4-6 months with no issues, im coming from a galaxy s6 and honestly the display isn't that bad compared to it the only thing i noticed is that the galaxy s6 is like 50-80% brighter but you'll notice it only if your using your phone outside.

Is it good to buy PoCo F1 in BBD sept 2019?

Guys Currently I am using SAMSUNG GALAXY S7 and planning to buy this device during this BBD for 15k.
As it's been more than a year since POCO F1 was launched, and if I will buy this phone or any other then I am gonna use it for at least 2yrs minimum.
I am very much confused, have so much questions in mind..
1) Will it go that long(2yrs)?
2) Is it worth to buy now?
3) Do you feel the need of an ultra wide lens as of now it's the current trend in market?
4) Does it show screen bleeding or ghost touches?
5) Switching from an amoled to a lcd panel will be bad experience? How is the screen quality?
6) LAST, still there is no news of POCO F2, is it good to buy F1 now or wait for another POCO device with a hope of that it will release soon?
Why I am asking these que. Because I am totally confused right now, Guys please help me out.
Yes ,Redmi K20 pro is another option but it's out of my budget even after price the will get slashed to 25k during BBD.

I'm buying it on big billion days sale this sep
poco is old but It's cutting edge competitive because of the aggressive prize cuts, and whatever phone you gonna purchase now for the 15K would be no match of snapdragon 845, it's still the second-best processor for android out there, also It have ultrafast internal memory UFS 2.1 and you can't go wrong with 6 gb of ram so it's pretty future proof, and you know for what I'm buying this in 2019 even after 1 year of its release, the camera! yes, there is 64 MP camera under this range but I've seen semple up close and I'm getting poco.

Well, the developer who made POCO F1 is retired, no much update now, only if you flash another rom...
so the best way is K20 or 9T, with them you have Snapdragon 855, poco have 845.
I have poco, and I like it and I will no buy another for at least 1 year more, until I broke it...
MIUI 11 will come later, but I don't know if MIUI will work to upgrade android from Pie to Q.
If you like flashing ROMs , testing, etc, its no problem for you.
But.....If it were you (Its me! I like having phone with best processor with lower price xD) , I was going to buy K20 or 9T pro (better that Oneplus 7 about specifications and lower price) because poco have 1 year and all what above user (Ramipro) said..
But if you don't use to play so much like...PUBG with max configs, and found the lower price, its good for daily usage ofc

Bought the POCO F1 since the date released and still don't have intent to change the phone yet. The update is lesser for now since the global beta is shut down but still quite active. I have no problem using it to play Mobile Legend China with Med-high spec. The camera itself is actually not bad, if you are not a professional camera person. For me, there are no screen bleeding nor ghost touches. For the screen well, amoled screen is always good but so I guess this is the cost here (not that I say POCO is bad, just amoled screen is gooood).
Well anyway, the spec of POCO F1 is still quite good for now so if you don't mind of old phone, go straightly buy it. Otherwise I'll just wait POCO F2 or buy newer phone.

leakcim90 said:
Well, the developer who made POCO F1 is retired, no much update now, only if you flash another rom...
so the best way is K20 or 9T, with them you have Snapdragon 855, poco have 845.
I have poco, and I like it and I will no buy another for at least 1 year more, until I broke it...
MIUI 11 will come later, but I don't know if MIUI will work to upgrade android from Pie to Q.
If you like flashing ROMs , testing, etc, its no problem for you.
But.....If it were you (Its me! I like having phone with best processor with lower price xD) , I was going to buy K20 or 9T pro (better that Oneplus 7 about specifications and lower price) because poco have 1 year and all what above user (Ramipro) said..
But if you don't use to play so much like...PUBG with max configs, and found the lower price, its good for daily usage ofc
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This was the only reason I was considering this device, as it has much better development community than one plus devices has right now.
Also you are right about K20pro, it's also the value for money for sd855 because of its a new chipset and better than oneplus 7..
well thank you bro for suggestion, I keep that circumstances in my mind while buying..

I had an F1 and sold it and got the Mi9T. I didn't like the 9T's under display fingerprint sensor (the position and speed of it; I like the tactile feel of a physical button). I sold the 9T and got a used Galaxy S9+. The battery life was terrible. I'm not sure if it was software related or if the battery was too old. However, I returned it, and I've just ordered a new F1. I plan to flash it with ResurrectionRemix or PixelExperience. It's the best phone I've owned (I've owned a lot), and I don't care if it's over a year old.

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poco is old but It's cutting edge competitive because of the aggressive prize cuts, and whatever phone you gonna purchase now for the 15K would be no match of snapdragon 845, it's still the second-best processor for android out there, also It have ultrafast internal memory UFS 2.1 and you can't go wrong with 6 gb of ram so it's pretty future proof, and you know for what I'm buying this in 2019 even after 1 year of its release, the camera! yes, there is 64 MP camera under this range but I've seen semple up close and I'm getting poco.
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Yessssss for a 15k subprice bracket it's beast.. I was confused, but now it seems like my vision got cleared b/w poco & k20 pro... :laugh:
Thanks buddy..:good:

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I had an F1 and sold it and got the Mi9T. I didn't like the 9T's under display fingerprint sensor (the position and speed of it; I like the tactile feel of a physical button). I sold the 9T and got a used Galaxy S9+. The battery life was terrible. I'm not sure if it was software related or if the battery was too old. However, I returned it, and I've just ordered a new F1. I plan to flash it with ResurrectionRemix or PixelExperience. It's the best phone I've owned (I've owned a lot), and I don't care if it's over a year old.
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Wow thats a lot of experience you had with your devices...
Now I am confident about F1, I will buy that, as I will use custom roms only.. But one thing I want to ask that does it have screen bleeding issue when you had your previous F1? My friends who bought have that issue
EDIT-you don't need to answer that, I got it from Caferatte89..

Caferatte89 said:
Bought the POCO F1 since the date released and still don't have intent to change the phone yet. The update is lesser for now since the global beta is shut down but still quite active. I have no problem using it to play Mobile Legend China with Med-high spec. The camera itself is actually not bad, if you are not a professional camera person. For me, there are no screen bleeding nor ghost touches. For the screen well, amoled screen is always good but so I guess this is the cost here (not that I say POCO is bad, just amoled screen is gooood).
Well anyway, the spec of POCO F1 is still quite good for now so if you don't mind of old phone, go straightly buy it. Otherwise I'll just wait POCO F2 or buy newer phone.
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Okay, that means the screen bleeding issue was there only in the first batch when it was released.

I bought the Poco F1 after 3 months it was released and using it for a year and i am very happy with it. Never had touch problems or screen bleeding, i am a casual user, i take photos with google camera and the results are amazing, the only games i play are Vainglory and Auto Chess on 60 fps high settings and everything is buttery smooth. A friend of mine found a deal at a local store here in Romania for 190 euro which i think is a fantastic deal. The battery life is great, i usually get 4-5 h of screen on time and 2 days of usage, i think with Pixel Experience or LOS you can get better battery life but i like MIUI built in features so i am using the latest MIUI 10 with Android 9. Android 10 with MIUI 11 is planned this year. I attached some photos of my holiday so you can see how good the camera is https://drive.google.com/open?id=14g6V9zwMvkKYrV9lHB0Vu8nqdf9vWkvu

Its is a good phone but screen is not that great you gonna notice this more since you were using s7. There is ghost touch problem many people are facing it but performance is good, camera is good enough for the price battery life is great i get 8-9 hrs of screen on time regularly also development is good lots of custom ROMs stuff. So it really depends on your priorities do you really need this performance.
If not there are plenty of other phones with better screen and camera's. Phone with snapdragon 7 series will good enough

petraru1 said:
I bought the Poco F1 after 3 months it was released and using it for a year and i am very happy with it. Never had touch problems or screen bleeding, i am a casual user, i take photos with google camera and the results are amazing, the only games i play are Vainglory and Auto Chess on 60 fps high settings and everything is buttery smooth. A friend of mine found a deal at a local store here in Romania for 190 euro which i think is a fantastic deal. The battery life is great, i usually get 4-5 h of screen on time and 2 days of usage, i think with Pixel Experience or LOS you can get better battery life but i like MIUI built in features so i am using the latest MIUI 10 with Android 9. Android 10 with MIUI 11 is planned this year. I attached some photos of my holiday so you can see how good the camera is https://drive.google.com/open?id=14g6V9zwMvkKYrV9lHB0Vu8nqdf9vWkvu
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Daammmnnnnnn all those clicks were soo good, that it was like clicked from a high end phone. Gcam really did the great job in preserving details in the clicks when compared to stock....Well that's a peace of mind about camera department....
But still one thing I wanna ask ,do you feel the need of an ultra wide lens?

prakharayush31 said:
Daammmnnnnnn all those clicks were soo good, that it was like clicked from a high end phone. Gcam really did the great job in preserving details in the clicks when compared to stock....Well that's a peace of mind about camera department....
But still one thing I wanna ask ,do you feel the need of an ultra wide lens?
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The camera has a wider lens than the competition, i compared it to Mate 20 Pro main camera and Poco camera is wider. Also the difference between the 2 phones are not that big, Poco with GCam is almost the same as the Mate even in night mode. I impressed allot of people with the photos i took, most of the people thought it was a high end smartphone like iPhone, Samsung, Huawei.

Sky88 said:
Its is a good phone but screen is not that great you gonna notice this more since you were using s7. There is ghost touch problem many people are facing it but performance is good, camera is good enough for the price battery life is great i get 8-9 hrs of screen on time regularly also development is good lots of custom ROMs stuff. So it really depends on your priorities do you really need this performance.
If not there are plenty of other phones with better screen and camera's. Phone with snapdragon 7 series will good enough
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Actually I was considering this phone because of highly active development community only, it has lots of custom roms, tweaks, mods etc etc...
I was only confused because last time I bought brand new S7 ,it was one & half yr already old after the launch. In 2017 at that time it doesn't really bothered me because change of trend in smartphone market was not that really fast as of now, but still after some time(5mnths) I felt, at least I should gone for a device which has highly active development because S7 always had a problem either custom rom is not compatible with gcam or if it's compatible then quality of the photo is f**ked up.
But now days smartphone trends has paced up so fast that even after 6months it seems like you are out of the time.
Yaa I know, once you are with the device with such a support of development you are never gonna worry about this thing.
Well the main thing is that, Xiaomi has never spoken a word about Poco, that it is dead even after Jai Mani(head of product) has left the POCO brand.
It's the main point of my confusion, if I buy today F1 and company launches another POCO, then I would regret that I should wait at that time. But if Poco lineup is dead and I bought some other device,then again I would have regret that I left F1, which already has so much development.....
Another thing also confuse me, K20pro is just the appropriate upgrade and a successor to F1, seems like if another poco was to be launched, it was this K20pro. Then I should go for k20pro, but on k20pro I don't like that in-display fingerprint & motorised camera...
This whole sh*t thoughts has put me in a great confusion right now... should I consider F1 or not?

petraru1 said:
The camera has a wider lens than the competition, i compared it to Mate 20 Pro main camera and Poco camera is wider. Also the difference between the 2 phones are not that big, Poco with GCam is almost the same as the Mate even in night mode. I impressed allot of people with the photos i took, most of the people thought it was a high end smartphone like iPhone, Samsung, Huawei.
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Thanks a lot petraru1, for giving such details and clearing the confusions about the camera on F1..

prakharayush31 said:
Actually I was considering this phone because of highly active development community only, it has lots of custom roms, tweaks, mods etc etc...
I was only confused because last time I bought brand new S7 ,it was one & half yr already old after the launch. In 2017 at that time it doesn't really bothered me because change of trend in smartphone market was not that really fast as of now, but still after some time(5mnths) I felt, at least I should gone for a device which has highly active development because S7 always had a problem either custom rom is not compatible with gcam or if it's compatible then quality of the photo is f**ked up.
But now days smartphone trends has paced up so fast that even after 6months it seems like you are out of the time.
Yaa I know, once you are with the device with such a support of development you are never gonna worry about this thing.
Well the main thing is that, Xiaomi has never spoken a word about Poco, that it is dead even after Jai Mani(head of product) has left the POCO brand.
It's the main point of my confusion, if I buy today F1 and company launches another POCO, then I would regret that I should wait at that time. But if Poco lineup is dead and I bought some other device,then again I would have regret that I left F1, which already has so much development.....
Another thing also confuse me, K20pro is just the appropriate upgrade and a successor to F1, seems like if another poco was to be launched, it was this K20pro. Then I should go for k20pro, but on k20pro I don't like that in-display fingerprint & motorised camera...
This whole sh*t thoughts has put me in a great confusion right now... should I consider F1 or not?
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If you have budget around 15k i would suggest just go for it. There is no competition for this price range. I dont there will be poco f2 at this point I think they killed poco for k series. This phone has really good development as there are already Android Q ROMs available at this moment.

I have my Poco for almost one year and I can say that is really good for me.
- Battery is decent to great but it charges from 0 to 100% in almost 2h (I'm ok with that though);
- camera, as it was said, with GCAM, takes nice shots;
- it is planned to get Android 10 with MIUI 11 as well and I think that the community will support it afterwards;
- I really like the face unlock function with IR, works perfect almost every time (in strong light I encountered some delays);
- Fingerprint sensor is really fast and a good location, but somehow, because I got used to the face unlock, I barely use it;
- no overheating;
- I'm using as well MIUI 10 (with franko kernel) cause I like more the face unlock process on it, also the full screen navigation gestures;
- My device has the screen bleeding issue in the bottom side (I got used to it immediately) and had touchscreen issues but got better through the updates (I think it still lags behind other phones, usually in fast scrolling);
- It would've been great to have NFC for mobile payments;
- the design it's quite old with big notch and big chin;
If you mean that you will find it for 15k INR, I think it's worth it

What about ghost touch in Indian version of poco f1

prakharayush31 said:
Yessssss for a 15k subprice bracket it's beast.. I was confused, but now it seems like my vision got cleared b/w poco & k20 pro... :laugh:
Thanks buddy..:good:
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Just buy POCO or give ₹2K extra and buy Asus Zenfone 5Z it's also good with premium design, HiRes earphones in the box. I am buying POCO F1 in the sale from Amazon. If you're buying POCO F1 then buy it from Amazon, because it is ₹1K cheaper in Amazon. ₹15K for 6+128

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If you have budget around 15k i would suggest just go for it. There is no competition for this price range. I dont there will be poco f2 at this point I think they killed poco for k series. This phone has really good development as there are already Android Q ROMs available at this moment.
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I am convinced now & gonna get poco F1 on this sale for an exchange of 6k, the price would effectively become 10k approx. , I think it's great deal... sd845 for 10k..

Question Time to stop using Pixel phones? Terrible experience through 1 year of ownership

I've got a Pixel 6 pre-ordered, using it as my main phone since launch. My experience with random bugs, but especially frustrating Bluetooth devices randomly disappearing or being forgotten, random Bluetooth disconnections and so on have frustrated me beyond belief!
I stopped using Samsung phones back in the Note 2 era as Samsung when on a tangent and lost their marbles, and before my Pixel 6 I was using a Xiaomi Mi 11, which was an excellent hardware, but I could not get on with their buggy mess and poorly implemented dark mode forcing apps and making buttons disappear as consequence. Never again...
Now the Pixel 6 is making me feel the same way, a frustrating half-baked phone which was meant to be exactly the opposite, it should be the flagship Google phone with the latest and most polished software, not this mess.
So I'm considering perhaps moving to a Samsung flagship, but I've no idea if their software will be any better. I'm definitely not going for the Chinese brands anymore, Oneplus lost its way, Xiaomi is a proper mess, Realme and others also not worth considering. Ah, I evne forgot to mention I had an Asus ROG phone once, excellent phone but very slow update cycles, another disappointment.
So what is left for me to try? A Samsung flagship that promises 4 years of updates? The reality is that I'll keep the phone for 2 or 3 years max anyway, but nice that samsnung is finally focusing on providing updates more quickly. Or, go back to an iPhone and forget all this mess, but I'm way more keen on keeping an Android phone due to its flexibility.
Any thoughts guys?

i know how ya feel mephisto.. it was either a samsung A53 or pixel 6a for my budget and the 6a came in £100 cheaper ( argos offer ) so far i have 2 issues . first of all the battery life reminds me of my old galaxy s5 .. lucky to last a full day and I'm not a heavy user either . I've read it settles down after a while once it gets to know your usage patterns , then again I've never really seen that happen in previous phones . And secondly the camera .. yes its good but the jpg compression is way too heavy . I've installed and tuned up bigkakas 8.4 gcam mod and it's pulling out a lot more fine detail than stock . they should give users more options as far as the camera goes.
anyway it still blows the redmi note 11 out of the water so i suppose i shouldn't complain .. but i do

I wonder if I'm alone feeling this disappointed and if there are any good alternatives

It is a result of market expectations (imho). The number of people interested in customizing and tweaking their device is too small to get the attention of the manufacturers. They will target their preferred (ie easiest) audience, and whoever isn't in that audience will have to deal with the results.

i am hugely disappointed in my s6. battery life is poor at best uses 1.5% an hour if i don't touch the device. ( my other 3 phones only use 0.3% an hour, same sim , same service, same place). battery use while on at 5-6% is pretty good.there have been bugs since day one. the camera was advertised as 50mp but software makes it 12mp, that was annoying. and developer support on xda is just ok.
i should have bought the last pixel5

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