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I am currently running KaosFroyo v30 and just recently downloaded v31. Should I wipe my phone before installing the latest version of this ROM?
*Note: it does call for a wipe when installing v17 it reads " **THIS IS A WIPE INSTALL** " does that apply to all ROMs post v17?
Edit: I know I should be asking Kaos himself, but I thought I would ask the community first.
If he doesn't say to wipe in between you don't have to... I personally always wipe the dalvik cache before and after I install a new update even if it's not required.
Well, I did what you advised and everything seems to be working out well. Of course I only just recently updated, so tomorrow and Friday will be test days. One thing i have noticed though us that MMS is till not working....
Like Hungry Man said, you don't HAVE to wipe unless the dev says so, but things always seem to be a lot cleaner when you do wipe.
I always recommend wiping.
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I always wipe disk and Dalvik.
Only takes a second.
And with Titanium and what not, you don't even have to do anything.
They're making things too easy for us, lol.
You could flash with out wipe then if you have issues beyond known bugs, wipe and reflash.
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If you dont have many programs or apps installed then do a wipe but for me it is a pain in the ass setting it all back up again. So, if it is just an update, then I dont wipe. Sometiimes it leaves scratchy ass, sometimes not
I have always wiped updating to a new ROM, mainly because I didn't know any better. The next update I might update after V31 I might just try a flash and see what happens because I'm impatient when reloading everything LOL.
If it is a new completely different ROM then yes I would wipe.
Installing a new ROM, updating or new, is like talking a shyt. You should probably wipe.
mackeydesigns said:
Installing a new ROM, updating or new, is like talking a shyt. You should probably wipe.
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+1 internets. I LOL'd.
most importantly like mom alwayz said , wipe good
Wiping will get rid of all the clingy bits, which isn't always necessary, but I recommend it.
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+1 internets. I LOL'd.
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I'll take that +1 internets sir. Thanks.
I ended up not wiping (no pun intended) no problems so far. I like some of the little tweaks, but I don't think the track ball lighting is not working
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I tried CM a while back (WAY back, actually - pre-ICS) for the i717. It wasn't bad but after a while I went back to stock because for me it just 'felt' better. Hard to explain it other than that. In any case, I've been on full stock ever since and was happy with it.
Then Official JB comes out from the carrier and my phone is laggy as all hell and it's gotten to the point of royally pissing me off to the point that I'm considering my options.
My question is this: Do we know the cause of the lag? If so, is it fixable via custom kernel or something similar, or do I need to go to a whole separate ROM to get away from the problem (and are there any in particular that are recommended if that is the case)?
tigerknight said:
I tried CM a while back (WAY back, actually - pre-ICS) for the i717. It wasn't bad but after a while I went back to stock because for me it just 'felt' better. Hard to explain it other than that. In any case, I've been on full stock ever since and was happy with it.
Then Official JB comes out from the carrier and my phone is laggy as all hell and it's gotten to the point of royally pissing me off to the point that I'm considering my options.
My question is this: Do we know the cause of the lag? If so, is it fixable via custom kernel or something similar, or do I need to go to a whole separate ROM to get away from the problem (and are there any in particular that are recommended if that is the case)?
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Check this thread out. It's titled slow 4.1.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314464
440bro said:
Check this thread out. It's titled slow 4.1.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314464
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I've disabled a lot of apps, but I will go back and compare to that list and see about disabling some more that I may have missed. Thanks
tigerknight said:
I've disabled a lot of apps, but I will go back and compare to that list and see about disabling some more that I may have missed. Thanks
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Have you done a factory data reset since the upgrade? That seems to clear up a lot of issues too.
440bro said:
Have you done a factory data reset since the upgrade? That seems to clear up a lot of issues too.
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I don't recall, but if I had to venture a guess I'd say probably not. I followed the above thread to the 'slow 4.1.2' and disabled everything I could on that list and did a restart, not sure which one did the trick but now it's nice and speedy.Hoping it stays this quick and isn't just a factor of not a lot built up in memory yet. I'll try a factory reset if it bogs down again.
there could also be some existing apps that continue to run in the background.
you might either go into app manager and force close them and clear their cache individually
OR
maybe reboot phone every day or two. clearing any cache build up. kind of a preventative maintinence thing.
if you ventured new ROM, may I suggest Padawawn.
every phone is a bit different, but I have had the best results ever
4.2.2 ROMs perform better IMO. Good luck
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i prefer stock as well and was also experiencing lag until i found the right setup for myphone. started out by debloating. then flashed phasekernel_jb.3 and use setcpu or whatever tuner app you prefer and set governor = fantasy/scheduler = sio/min = 384/max = 1728. all phones are different so you may need to try different settings to find what works for yours. i have not had any lag since.
Here is what worked for me. I had the same issue as you and posted it a while back. This also greatly increased my battery life. I suggest that if you are rooted go ahead and wipe the device - in fact do it twice! You will have to reinstall of you your apps but it got rid of all the lag and almost doubled my battery life.
geebee1932 said:
Here is what worked for me. I had the same issue as you and posted it a while back. This also greatly increased my battery life. I suggest that if you are rooted go ahead and wipe the device - in fact do it twice! You will have to reinstall of you your apps but it got rid of all the lag and almost doubled my battery life.
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When you said "wipe", did you mean factory reset or TWRP wipe?
If TWRP, which one you wipe? I tried checking all selection and it wiped even the OS!
lanwarrior said:
When you said "wipe", did you mean factory reset or TWRP wipe?
If TWRP, which one you wipe? I tried checking all selection and it wiped even the OS!
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You wipe the caches. If you wipe system, it will delete the OS and the data wipe will wipe your data of course.
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briand.mooreg said:
You wipe the caches. If you wipe system, it will delete the OS and the data wipe will wipe your data of course.
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OK.
I am ready to do the factory reset twice. My Note is rooted and have SuperSU. If I factory reset, wouldn't it remove SuperSU also but NOT TWRP?
If yes, can I just install the SuperSU zip from TWRP? No need to re-root?
lanwarrior said:
OK.
I am ready to do the factory reset twice. My Note is rooted and have SuperSU. If I factory reset, wouldn't it remove SuperSU also but NOT TWRP?
If yes, can I just install the SuperSU zip from TWRP? No need to re-root?
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You will have full root. I always wipe both caches, system and data when flashing a new ROM, its actually the preferred way.
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You will have full root. I always wipe both caches, system and data when flashing a new ROM, its actually the preferred way.
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Wait, I already have stock AT&T JB and rooted. I just want to fix the lag and not installing a new ROM. Do I really need to wipe system and data? Wouldn't that wipe the whole OS?
I did the factory reset and want to wipe both caches... errr.. what's the button combination to boot to TWRP? I use "Quick Boot" before..
lanwarrior said:
Wait, I already have stock AT&T JB and rooted. I just want to fix the lag and not installing a new ROM. Do I really need to wipe system and data? Wouldn't that wipe the whole OS?
I did the factory reset and want to wipe both caches... errr.. what's the button combination to boot to TWRP? I use "Quick Boot" before..
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It can be done by pressing at the same time Volume up and Power buttons until the display lights up, which is when you have to release Power button, while at the same time you should keep pressing the Volume Up button.
If you wish to keep your current ROM DON'T wipe system.
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When you said "wipe", did you mean factory reset or TWRP wipe?
If TWRP, which one you wipe? I tried checking all selection and it wiped even the OS!
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Just the normal wipe -the first one on the selection menu.
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Wait, I already have stock AT&T JB and rooted. I just want to fix the lag and not installing a new ROM. Do I really need to wipe system and data? Wouldn't that wipe the whole OS?
I did the factory reset and want to wipe both caches... errr.. what's the button combination to boot to TWRP? I use "Quick Boot" before..[/QUOTE
many people just disable the lock screen to fix lag
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Hi guys,
First off, I am new here, so this may not be the best place for this question.
Now, for my question. I have a galaxy s2 and I have tried flashing the Neat Rom on it. However, it always end up in a bootloop. I think the reason is that the factory reset option in ClockWorkmod from rom manager DOES NOT delete all the data in my phone.
So the questions are:
1) Does the data in my phone (like photos etc) need to be deleted to ensure a smooth install?
2) If yes, then how do I make sure when I am in recovery mode (is that what it is called?), the factory reset deletes ALL data.
3) Is this the only thing that causes the bootloop (I have followed all the steps that need to be followed, including wiping data)
I am pretty desperate for flashing a new ROM, because my stock one devours battery.
Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks,
Saltymount
Saltymount said:
Hi guys,
First off, I am new here, so this may not be the best place for this question.
Now, for my question. I have a galaxy s2 and I have tried flashing the Neat Rom on it. However, it always end up in a bootloop. I think the reason is that the factory reset option in ClockWorkmod from rom manager DOES NOT delete all the data in my phone.
So the questions are:
1) Does the data in my phone (like photos etc) need to be deleted to ensure a smooth install?
2) If yes, then how do I make sure when I am in recovery mode (is that what it is called?), the factory reset deletes ALL data.
3) Is this the only thing that causes the bootloop (I have followed all the steps that need to be followed, including wiping data)
I am pretty desperate for flashing a new ROM, because my stock one devours battery.
Any help would be appreciated,
Thanks,
Saltymount
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Wipe cache and dalvik cache and after flashing, if it bootloops, take battery out, boot to recovery and flash it again.
It helped for me.
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monkeywithbanana said:
Wipe cache and dalvik cache and after flashing, if it bootloops, take battery out, boot to recovery and flash it again.
It helped for me.
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Well thanks for taking time to help me with that, but I tried it already and it didn't help. Basically what I need is to be able to COMPLETELY wipe the data off my phone before I flash the ROM. My assumption is that, as I said before, the data in my phone is not being wiped away. This is so as, after flashing back stock ROM with Odin (after the bootloop) , all my data, like files, photos etc is all there. And I have read up some information about flashing and I do realise that you cannot have any data on the phone before flashing because the new OS(?) cannot read it or something.
Anyway thanks,
Saltymount
Hey all,
I have yet to find the solution so if one of you 72 people who have seen this question could help, that'd be good.
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Hey monkeybanaana,
After a lot of different tries (millions maybe), and sighing and convincing myself that your method will not work, I just gave it a shot. And what do you, know it worked! Thanks man, I am trying out Neatrom for s2 right now.
Thanks again,
Saltymount
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so my phone ran out of battery overnight and i charged it not using the stock charger cuz i was at a friends house, it booted all the way to the lockscreen, then shut off and booted again. i let it charge some more and it just went it to a bootloop, every so often reaching the lockscreen and turning off again. i have safestrap installed and i am on the latest 4.2 build. im thinking that i need to odin reset, but i want to see if theres a differerent way so i dont lose any data. if i do have to odin, how does one go about doing that?
thanks
ClassySandwiches said:
so my phone ran out of battery overnight and i charged it not using the stock charger cuz i was at a friends house, it booted all the way to the lockscreen, then shut off and booted again. i let it charge some more and it just went it to a bootloop, every so often reaching the lockscreen and turning off again. i have safestrap installed and i am on the latest 4.2 build. im thinking that i need to odin reset, but i want to see if theres a differerent way so i dont lose any data. if i do have to odin, how does one go about doing that?
thanks
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Can you boot into safestrap? Do you still have your stock slot? Or did you put a rom over it?
gnubian said:
Can you boot into safestrap? Do you still have your stock slot? Or did you put a rom over it?
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no roms at all, i tried but none would boot. and yes safestrap does indeed work. stock slot is the one that is having troubles and no other slots have roms on them
ClassySandwiches said:
no roms at all, i tried but none would boot. and yes safestrap does indeed work. stock slot is the one that is having troubles and no other slots have roms on them
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Have you tried clearing cache and or data, to just start fresh on the stock?
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no roms at all, i tried but none would boot. and yes safestrap does indeed work. stock slot is the one that is having troubles and no other slots have roms on them
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Did u try to install roms into your stock slot?
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
decaturbob said:
Did u try to install roms into your stock slot?
safestrap enabled, Hyperdrive driven
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His wording is a bit unclear, but it sounds to me like he tried to install roms on the other slots and couldnt get them to boot, with the stock slot intact. OP, correct me if im wrong.
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His wording is a bit unclear, but it sounds to me like he tried to install roms on the other slots and couldnt get them to boot, with the stock slot intact. OP, correct me if im wrong.
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yeah nothing with the stock slot, didnt mess with that. if i clear just the cache in stock what data will i lose if anything?
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His wording is a bit unclear, but it sounds to me like he tried to install roms on the other slots and couldnt get them to boot, with the stock slot intact. OP, correct me if im wrong.
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PS, my phone has just started doing this, its wierd i thought because i havent tried anything with any of the rom slots for at least a couple of months now
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yeah nothing with the stock slot, didnt mess with that. if i clear just the cache in stock what data will i lose if anything?
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If you clear cache and dalvik cache you won't lose any data or settings. If that doesn't work then do the factory reset in TWRP (safestrap) . That will make it as if you had a new phone. ( except the Safestrap and root access I believe). You will have to re download apps and change settings back to your liking, but it's better than having to odin back to stock.
gnubian said:
If you clear cache and dalvik cache you won't lose any data or settings. If that doesn't work then do the factory reset in TWRP (safestrap) . That will make it as if you had a new phone. ( except the Safestrap and root access I believe). You will have to re download apps and change settings back to your liking, but it's better than having to odin back to stock.
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safestrap failed wiping the regular cache, but dalvik worked. got to the lockcsreen again and it even gave me a vibrate for my pattern but then it shut off again. right after the verizon boot animation theres a popup window that says "Android is upgrading" with "optimizing app XXX of XXX". ive seen this before, but only very occasionally. what exactly does this mean?
By the way thank you guys for helping, especially on new years
ClassySandwiches said:
safestrap failed wiping the regular cache, but dalvik worked. got to the lockcsreen again and it even gave me a vibrate for my pattern but then it shut off again. right after the verizon boot animation theres a popup window that says "Android is upgrading" with "optimizing app XXX of XXX". ive seen this before, but only very occasionally. what exactly does this mean?
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I believe that is the normal process for dalvik to rebuild itself
"Android is upgrading" can come from wiping Dalvik cache, which is temporary info about your apps, that would need to be re mapped to the Android os. It can also come from doing a dirty flash or ota.
Your beginning post was about your data though, If you can get into safe strap then you should be able to mount your device to your pc, copy over what data you need, then wipe or Odin flash to bring it all back.
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jwoods82 said:
"Android is upgrading" can come from wiping Dalvik cache, which is temporary info about your apps, that would need to be re mapped to the Android os. It can also come from doing a dirty flash or ota.
Your beginning post was about your data though, If you can get into safe strap then you should be able to mount your device to your pc, copy over what data you need, then wipe or Odin flash to bring it all back.
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Smart, didnt know TWRP can do that. couldnt i just use the factory wipe feature in safestrap?
You could use factory wipe but your data at that point would be gone. If your not worried about the data then sure.
If data truly is not a concern though Just download the Odin tar for what build you want and start new.
To answer your other question think of Odin as a recovery disc you would use on your computer. Destructive restore. There are some good posts about here in xda or search Google for Samsung s4 Odin and I know your find some good reads.
Good luck
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You could use factory wipe but your data at that point would be gone. If your not worried about the data then sure.
If data truly is not a concern though Just download the Odin tar for what build you want and start new.
To answer your other question think of Odin as a recovery disc you would use on your computer. Destructive restore. There are some good posts about here in xda or search Google for Samsung s4 Odin and I know your find some good reads.
Good luck
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would it just be easier to do the safestrap wipe instead of an Odin one? ive read up on Odin and it seems a lot more complicated than just using safestrap
ive decided that data isnt important because most everything is saved in google play and plus. so what is the most reliable way to get my phone working again? Safestrap reset?
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ive decided that data isnt important because most everything is saved in google play and plus. so what is the most reliable way to get my phone working again? Safestrap reset?
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Safestrap would be easier. I would give that a try, because if it doesn't work your only other option would be Odin.
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You could use factory wipe but your data at that point would be gone. If your not worried about the data then sure.
If data truly is not a concern though Just download the Odin tar for what build you want and start new.
To answer your other question think of Odin as a recovery disc you would use on your computer. Destructive restore. There are some good posts about here in xda or search Google for Samsung s4 Odin and I know your find some good reads.
Good luck
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did the safestrap reset, it worked
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did the safestrap reset, it worked
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Glad you got it sorted out! Now make a backup after you get it set back up to make it easier if it happens again
I'm trying to flash the Santod Stock ICS, debloated, deodexed ROM onto my phone.
I'm coming from Stock GB, and I have already got S-OFF and Root with the HTC Thunderbolt All-in-one-tool.
However, I am currently confused and stuck on what to do next. The catch is that I dont get my service through Verizon, but through Mobi PCS in Hawaii which basically just offers 3G and this required me to pay someone locally to hack the phone and input manually the data settings.
Now, I notice that in the instructions for flashing this ROM is to totally wipe the partitions. Is this really necessary? Only asking because I don't want to lose the data settings and possibly have the phone not be able to have service or have to pay for the settings to be put back on.
I have already created a backup through 4ext, so I think I should be fine with that part. Is there a way for me to back up the data portion of the phone, wipe the partitions, and restore it after I flash the ROM? Besides all that, which radio should I flash first before the ROM?
I would really appreciate some help if anyone has the time.
Thanks
Since you made a nand backup in 4ext you should be OK to do a full wipe (yes you have to full wipe, data,cache and system). If something is wrong then restore your backup and you should be OK. The problem I see you having is that you will have to flash the new radios in order to flash ICS. I'm pretty sure that will mess up any settings you have for the modem which means you would have to get your phone flashed to that service again.
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Since you made a nand backup in 4ext you should be OK to do a full wipe (yes you have to full wipe, data,cache and system). If something is wrong then restore your backup and you should be OK. The problem I see you having is that you will have to flash the new radios in order to flash ICS. I'm pretty sure that will mess up any settings you have for the modem which means you would have to get your phone flashed to that service again.
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Got it. So the wipe is basically a full wipe? does my SD card need to be wiped too?
kfactor1469 said:
Got it. So the wipe is basically a full wipe? does my SD card need to be wiped too?
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Nah you don't have to wipe the SD. Also, since you have to do a full wipe you can use an app called titanium backup to back up user apps and data. Make sure you don't restore system apps from gingerbread into ICS.
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