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I'm currently using the Zenfone 2 (4GB RAM) and I will soon getting a Redmi Note 3 PRO (Snapdragon). I'm new to the xiaomi's ecosystem, I'm so confused here. Their stable ROM have version number of v7.** but their beta versions are v6.**. This is so confusing, I'd assume that they have two totally unrelated version numbering (ie betas have betas numbering and stables have stables numbering). Am I right?
But the main question is that now Asus had announced that the Zenfone 2 will get Android M in Q2 2016, and the users are complaining that Q2 is VERY LATE. But now I checked the Internet for Xiaomi's plan on Android M, I can only find that they are planning to upgrade the XIAOMI line of devices (ie Mi4 Mi5 MiNote etc) and nothing have been told about REDMI line of devices (ie Redmi3 RedmiNote3). If the RMN3P is not getting Android M, I consider my switch from Zenfone 2 a downgrade despite the RMN3 have better specs and one year newer. What are your thoughts on this about "Will RMN3P get Android M" ? Will we be upgraded?
And moreover the RMN3 community doesn't seem like they care about Android M. Only one thread that is related to Android M on MIUI forum and that's a poll asking if they want it or not (and some users don't want it). Maybe to some, it's pointless to upgrade to Android M but for me, the main reason I want Android M is the native fingerprint API so that apps like Lastpass can integrate and use the fingerprint sensor present on the RMN3 (we can only use it for unlocking device only currently).
Why you replace your phone?
saarxee said:
Why you replace your phone?
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I'm giving the Zenfone 2 to someone else
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we prefer android M but it really doesn't matter because in miui you have more feature than the pure android or touchwiz etc
it's like new os between android and ios with monthly update
_ehsun said:
we prefer android M but it really doesn't matter because in miui you have more feature than the pure android or touchwiz etc
it's like new os between android and ios with monthly update
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I understand. But I found out that redmi devices never gets upgrade other than weekly updates. Redmi devices stays on whatever version it came with. With this case on the note 3 pro it's 5.1 forever
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better look for other device.
Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
klanac8901 said:
Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
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Hopefully they will really bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro unlike other Redmi devices that never get any Android updates at all.
And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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klanac8901 said:
Xiaomi sad "with the start of the Mi5 in India we will bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro, like the Mi5"
You got Stable and Dev Rom. With the Dev Rom you get every friday a update.
Look the Mi2, when it's rls and look which version of Android you will get today (I think almost 4 years later).
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When did they say this actually? Im kinda curious xD
ImjuzCY said:
Hopefully they will really bring 6.0 to Redmi Note 3 Pro unlike other Redmi devices that never get any Android updates at all.
And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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No global dev beta build is out for redmi note 3 snapdragon
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And I thought the global ROM there's no dev ROM now? For the global rom we only have stable one
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hasan05 said:
No global dev beta build is out for redmi note 3 snapdragon
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http://en.miui.com/thread-252473-1-1.html
you are upgrading not downgrading..trust me...
i used ZF2 now using RN3 Pro 3gb.. only camera is downside on low light...but i trust Xiaomi..they are usually great with camera
also..if u just want to use app locks?? then dont wry they released 7.2.2 for some users and it is having app lock with FPS feature...and mi4i,mi3,mi4 are already upgraded from their initial android version[not miui version]
so yeah they can update android version ..
and also they release RN3 pro kernel yesterday which means custom roms can be more stable and most feature can be implemented ...
just relax and enjoy RN3
ansebovi said:
you are upgrading not downgrading..trust me...
i used ZF2 now using RN3 Pro 3gb.. only camera is downside on low light...but i trust Xiaomi..they are usually great with camera
also..if u just want to use app locks?? then dont wry they released 7.2.2 for some users and it is having app lock with FPS feature...and mi4i,mi3,mi4 are already upgraded from their initial android version[not miui version]
so yeah they can update android version ..
and also they release RN3 pro kernel yesterday which means custom roms can be more stable and most feature can be implemented ...
just relax and enjoy RN3
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Ahhhh I remember you from the ZF2 subforum. I know for sure hardware side it is an upgrade. From the software side I'm not sure because I didn't use Xiaomi devices before. But from opinions of a few users above including you, I think RMN2P software will not be worse than the ZF2. It'd just that maybe RMN2P will get Android M later than the ZF2 since xiaomi still didn't release plan to upgrade it.
And I don't care about applock, but what I meant in OP is that the lastpass app itself do support firstprint but previously it doesn't work with xiaomi's fingerprint sensor because xiaomi didn't release API to the developers. But recently it worked, so it's okay now.
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As the kernel source is released yesterday..we can get custom roms with in a month...as the cm12.1 already available in alpha stage developed by Santhosh MM....as u can see in that thread he said its time for cm13....as i saw his development for many devices he even made roma for my previous device yureka he is fast in developing roms...we can get stable cm13 for rn3 with in a month for sure..
I also sold my Asus Zenfone 2 (ZE551ML) and purchased Redmi Note 3 (snapdragon with 3gb/32gb). This mobile is far way better in RAM management and battery backup when compared to my zenny. Camera is awesome in zenny, but for a price of 12,000 INR we should not expect much.
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I'm currently using the Zenfone 2 (4GB RAM) and I will soon getting a Redmi Note 3 PRO (Snapdragon). I'm new to the xiaomi's ecosystem, I'm so confused here. Their stable ROM have version number of v7.** but their beta versions are v6.**. This is so confusing, I'd assume that they have two totally unrelated version numbering (ie betas have betas numbering and stables have stables numbering). Am I right?
But the main question is that now Asus had announced that the Zenfone 2 will get Android M in Q2 2016, and the users are complaining that Q2 is VERY LATE. But now I checked the Internet for Xiaomi's plan on Android M, I can only find that they are planning to upgrade the XIAOMI line of devices (ie Mi4 Mi5 MiNote etc) and nothing have been told about REDMI line of devices (ie Redmi3 RedmiNote3). If the RMN3P is not getting Android M, I consider my switch from Zenfone 2 a downgrade despite the RMN3 have better specs and one year newer. What are your thoughts on this about "Will RMN3P get Android M" ? Will we be upgraded?
And moreover the RMN3 community doesn't seem like they care about Android M. Only one thread that is related to Android M on MIUI forum and that's a poll asking if they want it or not (and some users don't want it). Maybe to some, it's pointless to upgrade to Android M but for me, the main reason I want Android M is the native fingerprint API so that apps like Lastpass can integrate and use the fingerprint sensor present on the RMN3 (we can only use it for unlocking device only currently).
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if you want regular android updates go for moto g4 !!!! becoz redmi devices don't get android version update but only miui ver updates ! But I am gonna buy this and flash mokee 6.0.1 official !!! mokee rocks !!!
Xiaomi will get Android 6 Marshmallow and it is said by Xiaomi since the MIUI Forums said that MIUI 8 (Android 6) will be released in 17 of June.
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I would ofcourse like android 6, but if you are on miui does it really make a big difference? Ofcourse you will miss a few new android features if it doesn't upgrade to M, however, atleast there are other regular updates and system security patches right?
On my samsung tab4 i received just one firmware update and i think after that any official development was discontinued.
Hey I just heard from digit.in that xiaomi is rolling MIUI 9.5 based on Android 7.0 to 30 of it's devices including our beloved redmi 3s series.If nothing went wrong, it would be released within few days.I think we can expect some more roms for our devices now. Cheers:laugh:
Yeah it really must be truth. Stable 7.0 without testing in dev builds.
Here it is. As you see still 6.0 and yeah, still almost year old security patch.
http://bigota.d.miui.com/V9.5.1.0.MALMIFA/miui_HM3SGlobal_V9.5.1.0.MALMIFA_4cc6983736_6.0.zip
All Hail To Xiaomi For this.. ??
Well that's what they said
no 7.0 for Redmi 3s!
MIUI 9 Global Stable ROM V9.5.1.0.MALMIFA based on Android 6 (Marshmallow) has rolled out to public users.
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F__k Xiaomi
Was my first Xiaomi, and now is my last!!!!
Never never Xiaomi again!!
Guys they sell great value for money products.. u can always change the software but what matters is the hardware.
Take the example of leco le max 2 it has snapdragon 820 at a price range of 10500 at banggoods, no one can match.. To its performance per dollar ?..
But still 6.1
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I am cool with my phone and thank xiaomi because of it selling so many phones we have got such a great community on xda..
I have my pixel but still use my redmi 3s as it being my first phone.
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Someone actually know when would android nougat be available on this device?
its a shame, that they not even update the security patch level: still from 04/2017!!!
Otherwise:
i love MIUI - i don't need Nougat/Oreo...
everything work perfekt for me. But Performance and Akku is better in LOS and co...
yup I really hate xiaomi for not providing at least one android upgrade and for this ancient security patch. the moderators on miui forum are very rude one word against xiaomi and baaaam instant ban. They are bootlickers of xiaomi. I also hate ugly round green coloured notification toggles. and with every stable update new bloatwares and no option to remove them and also plenty full of ads
Never
HardlyRock said:
Someone actually know when would android nougat be available on this device?
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never
starboyvivek said:
Hey I just heard from digit.in that xiaomi is rolling MIUI 9.5 based on Android 7.0 to 30 of it's devices including our beloved redmi 3s series.If nothing went wrong, it would be released within few days.I think we can expect some more roms for our devices now. Cheers:laugh:
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Xiaomi is fooling us by upadting MIUI version. They are not updating Android version.
To everyone complaining about miui. It's true that it's a bad OS but not ****ty. As a matter of fact, MIUI is far more stable than any of the custom ROMs available. Xiaomi instead of bumping the android version from marshmallow, keeps increasing the stability with marshmallow which isn't bad. And those suffering from bloatware, use modded miui like Xiaomi.eu or miuipro.
Official MIUI with Android 7.0 or higher will NEVER come to the 3S. Just flash official LineagOS 14.1, is as stable as the stock ROM, you'll have decent notifications and no bloatware.
The MIUI update 9.5.1 was actually pulled back and made nightly due to critical bugs.
http://en.miui.com/thread-2160466-1-1.html
The update was on Android 6.0.1 (obviously) and with April Security patch ( 2017 not 2018 )
So in short use Custom ROMs and be happy with the minimal bugs and in return get solid performance and stability.
My recommendations : crDroid 3.8.5 OFFICIAL
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-3s/development/rom-crdroid-android-v3-8-t3694074
Even though Pocophone F1 has official Android 10, its rather an old MIUI 11, which is slow and buggy compared to latest MIUI builds.
Looking at Poco X2/K30 videos on YouTube, the newer MIUI looks much smoother and optimized, when compared to F1, apps opened quicker even though processor of X2 is weaker (730g or 765g vs 845)
Given F1's age (and current situation due to pandemic that slow down businesses), it may be unlikely we get any updates from Xiaomi other than security patch. So it would be great to have the MIUI ports from X2/K30 into F1.
There are many AOSP/stock like ROMs out there which are excellent, but they don't provide certain useful features MIUI provide.
lmao, port rom will be more buggy.
Enjoy ur phone or buy google pixel
Why pixel? You could just use gsi roms and have a phone with headphone jack. But again the useful features of miui will be missing. Miui 12 will probably not come for f1
Why don't you just flash and Use MIUI based Roms like revolutionOS or Mi Room?
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Why don't you just flash and Use MIUI based Roms like revolutionOS or Mi Room?
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Mi room ROMs are out of date and are glitch as is revolution ROMs.......
This is actually a great idea cause Poco's miui is the most unstable one right now
Even the android Q custom roms are buggy
Q is horribly buggy... my experience with POCO MIUI Q is bad SOTs, Poco Launcher lag, Heating up!
Looks like every corporate is the same
The official Miui 11 for pocophone F1 is bad indeed. Anything after 10.3.8.0 has been buggy and unusable for daily use, and get poor battery life.
It look like Xiaomi didn't release any miui beta roms for poco f1. Other phones of 2018 using sd845 (such as mi9) got 20.x.x beta ROMs which seem to include upcoming features from miui 12.
This most likely means we don't get any feature updates, only security patch. However, poco x2 from this year will get miui 12 so it would be great idea to get port from it.
AxelStrife said:
This is actually a great idea cause Poco's miui is the most unstable one right now
Even the android Q custom roms are buggy
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Trueeee
AxelStrife said:
This is actually a great idea cause Poco's miui is the most unstable one right now
Even the android Q custom roms are buggy
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Have you tried crDroid Q? I switched to crDroid (6.4) about a month ago and so far its been very solid and bug-free barring one random reboot. I haven't tried any other Q ROM.
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Have you tried crDroid Q? I switched to crDroid (6.4) about a month ago and so far its been very solid and bug-free barring one random reboot. I haven't tried any other Q ROM.
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It still has bluetooth problems in PC fan or rgb controlling apps and many more
And the /system is read only
And these are on every custom rom and android Q
I guess it's google's fault
If they aren't gonna fix this it means that Pie is the most stable and full android out there
I'm a total noob at porting, once tried porting Mi8's rom to Poco F1. Sound wasn't working and I gave up. And Mi8 is the closest thing to F1 honestly. Try the ported Q Roms in Telegram, way better than stock miui in Poco. I'll try investigating about porting X2 to F1 though, if anyone wants to help, I'm welcome. I still don't understand vendor/firmware and stuff like that.
Yeah yeah. I know that we've seen the news about Poco and other 845 SoC based phone from Mi Series. Since the rollout of Android 11 on Pixel devices few days ago, there are many new features on Android 11 that I would like to add on Poco but since that Xiaomi promised us to get two major os updates (which are Android P and Android Q) it will most likely will stop on Android Q. But I have high hopes for Poco getting Android 11, MIUI based or not.
What are your thoughts about this?
Xiaomi has already cleared that poco f1 isn't getting android 11. It's not on their roadmap. We'll get miui 12 and maybe even 13 looking at the past experience. MIUI version are major upgrades for Xiaomi phones. Android versions like 9.0, 10.0 are practically just numbers to show off and that hardly adds any features on xiaomi phones.
I created petition on change.org for android 11.
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You're on xda forums not miui. The one thing you should be worried about is device sources and community developer support not miui.
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You're on xda forums not miui. The one thing you should be worried about is device sources and community developer support not miui.
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Yes I'm fully aware of that. But even though if I posted this on MIUI Forums, I still get the same answers from both Forums.
I highly doubt that someone can use blobs from MIUI 12 Android 10 to start from scratch to build a port to Android 11.
I forgot what device that was, I've experienced this coming back from 2018 when they used blobs from Android M to port and build Android N and that was stable enough they officially launched an official build.
Maybe my intuition was wrong or not, maybe someone from the Poco dev or even from the Poco community might wanna build and port Android 11 and might be one of the biggest breakthroughs of all time. Of course if it is stable enough to be a daily driver. I know that it is hard because of lack of blobs coming from Xiaomi's MIUI but maybe, someone will do it.
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Xiaomi has already cleared that poco f1 isn't getting android 11. It's not on their roadmap. We'll get miui 12 and maybe even 13 looking at the past experience. MIUI version are major upgrades for Xiaomi phones. Android versions like 9.0, 10.0 are practically just numbers to show off and that hardly adds any features on xiaomi phones.
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Yeah, Android 9 and 10 is kinda bummer because of lack of feature other than setting apps permissions which is great for me.
Android 11 has tons of new features like their improved privacy app features, the new smart device control quick settings which I really need because I have smart devices at home, improved notification and more.
I know these things can be treated on 3rd party apps but who wants to add more apps on their phone and maybe eat the battery on the background.
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Yeah, Android 9 and 10 is kinda bummer because of lack of feature other than setting apps permissions which is great for me.
Android 11 has tons of new features like their improved privacy app features, the new smart device control quick settings which I really need because I have smart devices at home, improved notification and more.
I know these things can be treated on 3rd party apps but who wants to add more apps on their phone and maybe eat the battery on the background.
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This is highly unlikely. Check piunikaweb they already mentioned there that a moderator from MIUI forums clarified that we'll get miui12, but unlikely to get Android 11. If you really want 11. Then wait for custom ROMS, but it may not be full MIUI Android 11 ports, rather from Pixel ports (one has already been released)
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This is highly unlikely. Check piunikaweb they already mentioned there that a moderator from MIUI forums clarified that we'll get miui12, but unlikely to get Android 11. If you really want 11. Then wait for custom ROMS, but it may not be full MIUI Android 11 ports, rather from Pixel ports (one has already been released)
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Yeah. Hopefully. Even if it is a port, or a custom ROM, I would still install that on my device.
Darklouis said:
Yeah, Android 9 and 10 is kinda bummer because of lack of feature other than setting apps permissions which is great for me.
Android 11 has tons of new features like their improved privacy app features, the new smart device control quick settings which I really need because I have smart devices at home, improved notification and more.
I know these things can be treated on 3rd party apps but who wants to add more apps on their phone and maybe eat the battery on the background.
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You misunderstand me. Even if they give android 11, the actual features don't arrive with the update. You will have to wait couple of years more to see native features of android 11 to implement into their MIUI ecosystem.
For example, custom DNS was introduced with Android 7.0 or 8.0 but it really came to xiaomi devices with MIUI 11 in 2020 year only.
On Xiaomi devices going from android 10 or 11 is as unsubstantial like changing security patch from august to september. Most of the people won't notice anything different.
We will 100% get Android 11 as a custom rom. As a matter of fact, it already is a thing. (Search xda) We won't get it officially as all non-pixel devices get only 2 android upgrades.
As far as XDA is there with active dev's updates offically from miui isn't a big deal for me ! Although our dev's are far more better than offical miui cause custom Rom are becoming far more Stabler than stock and in features . :fingers-crossed:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/development/rom-reloadedos-t4162237 11 is out for poco f1. Like i said, who needs xiaomis miui updates when you have xda. Long live the aftermarket software scene.
Or did Xiaomi stop any future updates to mi 9t?
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Or did Xiaomi stop any future updates to mi 9t?
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Not A12
It was said 4-5 months ago that davinci will get MIUI 13 but with A11 although I doubt now
Yep, it looks like Xiami "changed their minds" regarding Mi 9T support.
A shame.
Good thing I stayed with the untouched MIUI 12.0.5 firmware, seeing how many issues came with MIUI 12.1.X
I'll probably go for alternative firmwares once I see one in these forums that looks stable enough.
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Yep, it looks like Xiami "changed their minds" regarding Mi 9T support.
A shame.
Good thing I stayed with the untouched MIUI 12.0.5 firmware, seeing how many issues came with MIUI 12.1.X
I'll probably go for alternative firmwares once I see one in these forums that looks stable enough.
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I had switched long ago to Xiaomi.eu Stable 12.5.2
It was my Daily driver for couple of months and I was satisfied (and other users on Xiaomi.eu forum and here - you could look under 9, 9T Pro, 9 SE - all those phones ended with the similar situation regarding the updates)
Still on my old 9T but I have switched in the meantime to the new daily driver, 11 Lite 5G NE
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I had switched long ago to Xiaomi.eu Stable 12.5.2
It was my Daily driver for couple of months and I was satisfied (and other users on Xiaomi.eu forum and here - you could look under 9, 9T Pro, 9 SE - all those phones ended with the similar situation regarding the updates)
Still on my old 9T but I have switched in the meantime to the new daily driver, 11 Lite 5G NE
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Hmmm... might try it sooner or later. Though I see that it hasn't been updated since Nov. Does that mean that the 12.5 branch won't get any more updates? (security updates at least...) Because if that's so... I'm not really sure that it's worth the hassle, right?
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Hmmm... might try it sooner or later. Though I see that it hasn't been updated since Nov. Does that mean that the 12.5 branch won't get any more updates? (security updates at least...) Because if that's so... I'm not really sure that it's worth the hassle, right?
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Seems no more upgrades for the whole series Mi 9 series.
But from my experience it is better than 12.1, 12.2
Also, you have to format Data when switching to Xiaomi.eu and IMO, that heals the issues people otherwise reported while upgrading stock to 12.1 or 12.2
If you are ok with MIUI, that's the best you can get
But it is also questionable how many custom ROMs will continue to get updates
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But it is also questionable how many custom ROMs will continue to get updates
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That's what I was afraid of. LineageOS stopped supporting it too, so no luck on that side either. What a shame, because this phone is plenty capable and I see no reason to buy a new one.
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That's what I was afraid of. LineageOS stopped supporting it too, so no luck on that side either. What a shame, because this phone is plenty capable and I see no reason to buy a new one.
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Yes but you can think the same about ROM. If you settle with a good one, who cares (for a year or so) if it won't be updated.
It's important that there are other users, and that you can get help/support among them
Ok, you don't get new security updates. But apps will be continually updated for A11 for some years to come (Xiaomi.eu 12.5.2 is A11)
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Yes but you can think the same about ROM. If you settle with a good one, who cares (for a year or so) if it won't be updated.
It's important that there are other users, and that you can get help/support among them
Ok, you don't get new security updates. But apps will be continually updated for A11 for some years to come (Xiaomi.eu 12.5.2 is A11)
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The phone will surely die before A10/A11 stops getting support from apps though.
Lineage from Arian is supported and updated every week. The one reason 19.1 is not popular yet, is because of data decryption is not possible yet on A12, but ROM is soooo smooth andbug free I can't wait to get it as my daily