When I use USB DAC using the new ESS 9280/9281C chipset USB audio dongles, the volume on the earphones come out too low even at max volume on s20 ultra. The same dongles and earphones sound tested with Note 9 running android 10, and windows 10 computers, sound output levels were correct.
When connected to S20ultra, sound volume is less than half of what it should be compared to when using note 9 on android 10 or windows machines.
Tested USB dongles where this happened:
Hilidac Atom Pro ESS9281C Pro
Zorloo Ztello ESS9281C Pro
And generic ESS9280 DAC earphones.
Other USB dongles tested do not have the problem:
Meizu HD
Musiland MU2-HP/MU3
Sonata HD
Seems the S20ULTRA is detecting wrong max volume when a ESS 9280 series DAC is connected.
Seems like a USB audio drivers issue. I have Zorloo Ztella as well, and it works great with USB Audio Player Pro, with its own USB-C audio driver. With Tidal and common software stack, volume is low. How to report this to Samsung so they can fix this?
Audioquest DragonFly Cobalt, with ESS Sabre ES9038Q2M, works well.
Hidizs Sonata HD works well (no ESS here though).
Zorloo Ztella (ESS Sabre 9281CPRO) has low volume.
Same with my Ztella. It's a shame too because they drive a pair of my high impedance IEM's easily. Ordered a Meizu HD Pro from AliExpress.
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Heads up. There's a firmware update from Zorloo that fixes the issue. Build 7686.
https://www.zorloo.com/download
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Haven't had a chance to try it. I stuck the dongle in a drawer ever since I got the S20. I'll have a chance later today. I'll report back.
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Confirmed, new firmware fixes the issue.
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Hello guys, I've just recently bought the Onkyo CS 555dab and tried connecting my galaxy s3 via text usb port to play music. But it doesn't even connect so I'm thinking the usb on the Onkyo isn't meant for Android and only ipod and flash drives. But I was looking at this device which I think would work but want to be sure before I buy it. My Onkyo has got optical and coaxial inputs at 24bit so I was thinking of usb to optical. I can't post links just yet but it's called USB Sound Box from maplins website.
I'd just use the usb from the galaxy to the usb sound box then optical lead from that to the hifi. Would this produce audio??
Also I used the 3.5mm jack to RCA and the sound is terribly low n no bass at all. I read bout EU regulations and them lowering the out it via headphone jacks.
Hope someone knows. Thank you.
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Use a decent ROM with some jacked up audio improvements. I used 3.5mm to my stereo and the sound is superb.
There are a multitude of converters out there for just this.
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My old Samsung Galaxy S 2 had an audio accessories option provided by Samsung to enable USB audio output, despite it not being natively supported until recently, in lollipop.
I was just curious as to whether anyone's managed to enable the feature on the alpha. I'm presuming the feature will return when the lollipop update comes for the alpha, but kinda need it for my car radio in the short term.
Thanks.
I will try in the morning with the fiio e18 USB dac/amp. It should work out of the box
It works with stock firmware but I got some electronic noise as soon as I connected the dac with the phone. I will try to install a fresh firmware to see if it's a problem with my mainboard, drivers or something else. I'll be back
With fiio e 18 the noise is present at 0 volume from amplifier, even after firmware update. So..it could be my mainboard fault or general power circuit fault. BUT USB AUDIO OUT IS WORKING ON EXYNOS ALPHA WITH STOCK FIRMWARE. ( if you play music the noise is missing or is covered by song).
I am using my Alpha with Fiio E18... It will recognized the DAC immediately when you turn it on... stock rom no root...
I also didn't have any hiss or noise with my Alpha + Fiio E18... Very satisfied with the sound quality...
aatjitra said:
I am using my Alpha with Fiio E18... It will recognized the DAC immediately when you turn it on... stock rom no root...
I also didn't have any hiss or noise with my Alpha + Fiio E18... Very satisfied with the sound quality...
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does it sound a lot better ? maybe I should sell my E17 and get E18.
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does it sound a lot better ? maybe I should sell my E17 and get E18.
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Yes. If you are using a good quality headphones, while plugging it to the phone, you will realize that Alpha does provide a very good sound quality.... but with using DAC like E18, the result is unbelievable...
You will get eargasm for sure... The sound quality is very much better...
Maybe is a problem with my e18 or the cable. I will try with another cable.
I have a couple of questions regarding the following:
- is the USB-C to 3.5 dongle included with the mate 10 pro include a dac?
- The BT Audio when used in the car does have lower sound than the Galaxy S8 which is my second phone plus the APTXHD found in the developer options doesnt work too.
any ideas?
mameenbh said:
I have a couple of questions regarding the following:
- is the USB-C to 3.5 dongle included with the mate 10 pro include a dac?
- The BT Audio when used in the car does have lower sound than the Galaxy S8 which is my second phone plus the APTXHD found in the developer options doesnt work too.
any ideas?
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I think its a dac, I just used it in my car and the sound is way stronger and different, I'm sticking to that instead of the BT Audio in the Huawei.
I doubt that the dongle holds the DAC but the SOC does. Or at least it's on the motherboard.
Did anyone try the huawei histen audio though?
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Did anyone try the huawei histen audio though?
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It does make my Xiaomi earphones sounds better. I'm on Mate 10 though.
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Did anyone try the huawei histen audio though?
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Yeah, it's great but I have to go to parameters - huawei histen each time I put my headset.
Option is always activated but seems work only I go to parameters first
mameenbh said:
I have a couple of questions regarding the following:
- is the USB-C to 3.5 dongle included with the mate 10 pro include a dac?
- The BT Audio when used in the car does have lower sound than the Galaxy S8 which is my second phone plus the APTXHD found in the developer options doesnt work too.
any ideas?
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I doubt that the included dongle holds a DAC/Amp. Instead, I've been using my DragonFly Black (1.5) with a usb-c to usb-a otg cable, which delivers a much cleaner/wider/louder sound.
Regarding Bluetooth codec, AptX HD works great for me (using Aiaiai TMA-2 + H05), maybe your car BT receiver is not compatible?...
I tried both the dongle and the included USB Type-C headphone on my old Mate 9 Pro, and interestingly, the USB Type-C headphone worked perfectly while the dongle was not working at all.
Since Mate 9 Pro has a built-in 3.5mm AUX port, I don't think it supports USB analog audio pass thru. Therefore, I think the included headphone indeed has a DAC, but the dongle doesn't . If this is true, then Mate 10 Pro indeed has a DAC built in.
Hi, I am an owner of a Samsung galaxy s10. I've heard so much things about viper4android and I'm big on music and how my sound system sounds in my car. I would love to have the app but have no interest to root my device if that's even possible. Is there any way at all that someone might know how I can get it without root? I would really love to have this app. Thank you
No way you can get viper4android without rooting.
Just root, It;s simple and so worth it for V4A!
And that's working without a selinux kernel?
I used to be a big fan of V4A back then in my rooting days with the Galaxy Note 4. It did sounded better than the stock setup, but it's 2019 and rooting a new phone (especially a Samsung) does not sound like a good idea to me.
Instead, I bought Creative Labs Super X-Fi amp, USB Audio Player Pro and paired them with my Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro. It's an expensive setup, but now I hear music from my S10 like never before with a mobile device. The amp has the "Holographic sound" technology which is great, but even if you use it merely as an amp, it's great. IMO, this setup is much better that the quad DAC my previous LG G6 had.
Just pay attention, right now the USB Audio Player Pro is the only player compatible with the S10 paired with the X-Fi amp. S10s have a known issue with their USB port that does not allow the X-Fi to work with any other music player for the moment.
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I used to be a big fan of V4A back then in my rooting days with the Galaxy Note 4. It did sounded better than the stock setup, but it's 2019 and rooting a new phone (especially a Samsung) does not sound like a good idea to me.
Instead, I bought Creative Labs Super X-Fi amp, USB Audio Player Pro and paired them with my Beyerdynamic DT 770 pro. It's an expensive setup, but now I hear music from my S10 like never before with a mobile device. The amp has the "Holographic sound" technology which is great, but even if you use it merely as an amp, it's great. IMO, this setup is much better that the quad DAC my previous LG G6 had.
Just pay attention, right now the USB Audio Player Pro is the only player compatible with the S10 paired with the X-Fi amp. S10s have a known issue with their USB port that does not allow the X-Fi to work with any other music player for the moment.
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Hi so plz excuse the fact that I'm still tryin to get my head round this S10 ... So if I buy the usb audio player how does it work ? As other than my headphones I use it with an aux jack into my separated from fone cheers m8
salsa1976 said:
Hi so plz excuse the fact that I'm still tryin to get my head round this S10 ... So if I buy the usb audio player how does it work ? As other than my headphones I use it with an aux jack into my separated from fone cheers m8
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Hi, I did not understand correctly. You buy the USB Audio Player Pro and you use it just like any other music app, it's the same.
What's different about this app is that it has its own android driver, that bypasses Android's drivers, and it gives a better output. This is the only app that allows the USB Amplifier I bought (the Creative Super X-Fi amp) to work properly until now.
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Hi, I did not understand correctly. You buy the USB Audio Player Pro and you use it just like any other music app, it's the same.
What's different about this app is that it has its own android driver, that bypasses Android's drivers, and it gives a better output. This is the only app that allows the USB Amplifier I bought (the Creative Super X-Fi amp) to work properly until now.
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Thank you for explaining for me nice 1 m8
Does anyone know if you can use type C earphones with the Note 9S? Has anyone used any?
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Yes, I used Hidizs Sonata USB DAC and works OK ?
Yes, i used Huawei earphones type c
Cool thanks, how is the quality, loudness comparedd to the 3.5mm?
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The sound is fantastic. I find that it sounds better than the 3.5mm connector. But, you must consider that when you take the audio out of the type C port, it is the DAC of the headset that works. In addition, the audio improvements provided by the MIUI application are added when detecting a device connected by port c. Totally recommended to use USB sound.
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Yes, I used Hidizs Sonata USB DAC and works OK [emoji106]
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Awesome, these look really good, gonna have to check out.
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vitocoscout said:
The sound is fantastic. I find that it sounds better than the 3.5mm connector. But, you must consider that when you take the audio out of the type C port, it is the DAC of the headset that works. In addition, the audio improvements provided by the MIUI application are added when detecting a device connected by port c. Totally recommended to use USB sound.
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Thanks for your reply. I've been in audio limbo at the moment considering bluetooth headphones or new wired headphones and thought id look at the USB C options after getting the 9S.
Do the miui sound enhancer and equalizer option still work via USB? I use them with a set of wired sennheisers and find the quality decent after some tweaking, im no audiophile, but have found the audio output quality of xiaomi's to be quite good.
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I agree with USB as the best choice to listen to music currently with Redmi Note 9S. I'm facing a bug with my Sony WH-1000XM3 Bluetooth headphones -and all Bluetooth audio devices connected to my phone- that makes them sound very very low. Very annoying bug, I'm even thinking to sell my phone if Xiaomi doesn't fix it.
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I agree with USB as the best choice to listen to music currently with Redmi Note 9S. I'm facing a bug with my Sony WH-1000XM3 Bluetooth headphones -and all Bluetooth audio devices connected to my phone- that makes them sound very very low. Very annoying bug, I'm even thinking to sell my phone if Xiaomi doesn't fix it.
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Hi there,
I also own these brilliant headphones, And I have the 9S global. I don't have any problem whatsoever with BT volume, in fact the BT output is very very loud.
Still yet to try USB audio though, it's great to hear that this works well. As inconvenient as it may be maybe a factory reset will solve your problem. Hope you sort it ?
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Hi there,
I also own these brilliant headphones, And I have the 9S global. I don't have any problem whatsoever with BT volume, in fact the BT output is very very loud.
Still yet to try USB audio though, it's great to hear that this works well. As inconvenient as it may be maybe a factory reset will solve your problem. Hope you sort it
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Thanks for your information, maybe a factory reset will fix the problem! I'll try!