Huawei has been extremely sloppy in the past regarding support for the Camera2 API to allow third party camera apps to include full manual controls for exposure etc. Pretty much all other phone makers have full Camera2 support at least in their flagship lines but Huawei didn't even include it in the P10. So I'm really hoping that Huawei finally got things right with the Mate 10 / Mate 10 Pro. Would anyone with a Mate 10 or Mate 10 Pro be so nice to run this free Camera2 probing app ("Camera2 probe") from the PlayStore and post the results here? I'm most interested in the hardware level support category (It's either "Legacy", "Limited", "Full" or "Level 3").
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Thanks a lot! Unfortunately, it's still only "Limited", come on Huawei, how hard can it be?
And it is still fake "limited"...
Hi Everyone! Huawei P20 was just launched today, looking at the specs --- I can't see much difference besides the Camera, do you think its possible to port its camera and so called "Master AI"?
Thanks!
Why only the camera? It should be possible to port over all of the software.
I think that Huawei should really provide an upgrade to 8.1 and all of the new software functionality. Pretty horrible to release a flagship phone and 6 months later simply forget about it.
Update: The camera app seems to be already available in a leak, see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/firmware-leak-t3760517
I'm pretty sure the mate 10 will get 8.1 in the next few months
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I'm pretty sure the mate 10 will get 8.1 in the next few months
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****few months .... ya but in a few months android 9 will be released and maybe we will get it in april 2019! I don't like Huawei updates nor sammy's ... i really hope nokia will release a proper flagship soon... android one is the way....
Mate 9 never got EMUI 5.1 / Android 7.1 that came out with P10 and P10 Pro
Relax, this is the first phone that gets android 8.1+ NNAPI integration and not just a simple 8.1 like nokia and essential did. Basically as the guy said above with the leaks, all of the new features of the P20 are coming to us and that takes some time to implement. Granted our brand new mate 10 pro aka huawei's flagship feels obsolate, outdated and lacking in hardware compared to the P20 series(speakers, wireless charge, bigger sensor, laser) but that will soon change in some part with android 8.1.. Hold your wallets and do patiense like we all do
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Relax, this is the first phone that gets android 8.1+ NNAPI integration and not just a simple 8.1 like nokia and essential did. Basically as the guy said above with the leaks, all of the new features of the P20 are coming to us and that takes some time to implement. Granted our brand new mate 10 pro aka huawei's flagship feels obsolate, outdated and lacking in hardware compared to the P20 series(speakers, wireless charge, bigger sensor, laser) but that will soon change in some part with android 8.1.. Hold your wallets and do patiense like we all do
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How do you know all the new features of the P20 will come to the Mate 10?
@tboy2000: Huawei Mate 10 to get P20 AI features with Android 8.1
We have internal beta builds of 8.1 for the Mate 10 (non-Pro Chinese version) so they are being developed.
That being said, with the Mate 9 we also had internal builds of EMUI 5.1, but it was never released.
Most likely time to get the enhancements publicly is when Android P rolls out.
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@tboy2000: Huawei Mate 10 to get P20 AI features with Android 8.1
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Thanks. So it's not 'all the new features' of the P20. It's just some extra AI scenes. He did not confirm face unlock, super slow motion, AIS, etc etc
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Thanks. So it's not 'all the new features' of the P20. It's just some extra AI scenes. He did not confirm face unlock, super slow motion, AIS, etc etc
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Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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I was just quoting Aethergr who said "all the features". I know some features are hardware dependant. Ok?
mrabcx said:
Why only the camera? It should be possible to port over all of the software.
I think that Huawei should really provide an upgrade to 8.1 and all of the new software functionality. Pretty horrible to release a flagship phone and 6 months later simply forget about it.
Update: The camera app seems to be already available in a leak, see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8-pro/how-to/firmware-leak-t3760517
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Has anyone tried to flash this camera?
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Mate 9 never got EMUI 5.1 / Android 7.1 that came out with P10 and P10 Pro
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P10/P10Plus never got Android 7.1, I don't know what world you live in, but in our world neither P10 Pro nor ANY Huawei P/Mate with OEM Android 7.1 exists.
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Ofc its NOT ALL THE FEATURES of the P20, because some of them are hardware dependent, which Mate 10 Pro don`t have
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Actually NONE of the P20 AI features is hardware dependent compared to Mate 10/Pro, AIS is a software solution, it just needed to account for OIS which isn't hard. P20 Pro is a different story.
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P10/P10Plus never got Android 7.1, I don't know what world you live in, but in our world neither P10 Pro nor ANY Huawei P/Mate with OEM Android 7.1 exists.
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Actually NONE of the P20 AI features is hardware dependent compared to Mate 10/Pro, AIS is a software solution, it just needed to account for OIS which isn't hard. P20 Pro is a different story.
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think again the option to record in 960 fps is hardware dependent along with a few other modes
Is it working on mate 10?
Camera was 'ported' (it works simply by replacing hwcamera2 in /product/app/) right after firmware was leaked.
Here's a Magisk module if anyone wants it: https://mega.nz/#!peB21LaS!BS_5OIn6_eG4U8PRZCEzd6wdZCftANdHiIyZbFTiE8k
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Camera was 'ported' (it works simply by replacing hwcamera2 in /product/app/) right after firmware was leaked.
Here's a Magisk module if anyone wants it: https://mega.nz/#!peB21LaS!BS_5OIn6_eG4U8PRZCEzd6wdZCftANdHiIyZbFTiE8k
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Waiting for this, you are a bit late here to share the magisk for camera but a big thanks for you.
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Waiting for this, you are a bit late here to share the magisk for camera but a big thanks for you.
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I saw this thread today
The P20 Camera app looks nicer at least
Hello, I was interested flashing the port however I'm kinda stuck whether if I root my phone (includes unlocking bootloader) will I still be able to receive and flash updates thru the updates checker? Or every time update is installed, I'll have to reroot it again. Recently came from note 3, flashing and doing things in Huawei are kinda different. I bricked my Note 3 several times and used odin tons of times so makes me think twice before doing things bec not much of stock firmware is available for flashing
Honor view 10 was an excellent device but it had no eis so i skipped it. so i want to know if this honor 10 has eis or not bcs i am really interested in this device.
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Honor view 10 was an excellent device but it had no eis so i skipped it. so i want to know if this honor 10 has eis or not bcs i am really interested in this device.
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Sandhusaab said:
Honor view 10 was an excellent device but it had no eis so i skipped it. so i want to know if this honor 10 has eis or not bcs i am really interested in this device.
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I think there's EIS support in Gcam app. Although not sure how well it works.
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I think there's EIS support in Gcam app. Although not sure how well it works.
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it crashes alot in non snapdragon devices. i can only click photos using gcam app on my honor 8 pro and nothing else.
It is not sure if EIS is present in the Honor 10, considering it has the same "AI 2.0" as in the Huawei P20 series. But giving AI based IS on a sub €500 phone would make the P20 series less marketable, considering they share the same market
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It is not sure if EIS is present in the Honor 10, considering it has the same "AI 2.0" as in the Huawei P20 series. But giving AI based IS on a sub €500 phone would make the P20 series less marketable, considering they share the same market
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yes i agree but i am pretty surprised by the fact that honor 8 pro had eis in both front and back camera but its succesors are not having. also huawei phones used to have double tap to wake earlier but they removed it. dont know why
Hi guys when is the Mate 20 pro going to get an update for always on display to get more features like Samsung or Sony?
There is absolutely no point using it like this with limited function
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Hi guys when is the Mate 20 pro going to get an update for always on display to get more features like Samsung or Sony?
There is absolutely no point using it like this with limited function
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that should be a tweet to huawei. also there is already a thread on here about this.
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that should be a tweet to huawei. also there is already a thread on here about this.
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It is the only reason I do not have a M20 Pro, honestly from what I have read I do not think improvements are coming either. I agree that in it's current form the AOD is pretty pointless, it's just an always on clock mostly.
It's garbage on emui. Google nailed it with their pixels. It's absolutely perfect, and huawei should copy it.
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It's garbage on emui. Google nailed it with their pixels. It's absolutely perfect, and huawei should copy it.
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As you said they just copy Pixel as they have the best Always on display. I know it from my Pixel 2 XL.
I don't even use Always on display on my Mate 20 Pro as it serves no point
Hey Guys,
I opened a thread in the offical Huawei Forum in order to try to push a little the better implementation of the camera 2 api. I know chances are low, but if there is enough feedback and participation in the discussion maybe there is a chance for change. So please feel free to contribute to the thread and also share it if you are interested in better camera 2 api implementation.
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6790&showBread=1
Cheers
Maybe also support these for a smarter camera app:
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6918
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...support-for-camera-api-2-and-camera-hal3-4267
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...hutter-but-minimal-shutter-speed-to-keep-4079
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Maybe also support these for a smarter camera app:
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6918
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...support-for-camera-api-2-and-camera-hal3-4267
https://uk.community.huawei.com/ask...hutter-but-minimal-shutter-speed-to-keep-4079
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Thank you for sharing the links and for the support. I know the chances are low that this is going to change something but maybe huawei pays some attention to the community...
I don't know how much this will really matter in the recent light of the huawei ban, but we received an answer regarding the Camera2api implementation in the forums.
https://consumer.huawei.com/en/community/details/?topicId=6790&showBread=1
Lets hope that the noise made about this topic is enough to maybe move something a a better direction.
Huawei doesn‘t care, I bet. At least Lightroom can shoot HDR DNG with the ultra wide cam...
I wanted to make a comment about this. I just bought the p30 pro here in China. I have been waiting for the emui 10 update. But, I also found on Huawei's website the Huawei Camerakit, which it says encapsulates the Google camera2 API. It requires Android studio version 3.0.1 or later, a Kirin 970 or later, and emui 8.1.0 or later... Wouldn't this mean a developer like the people on here could implement it? Link is developer.huawei.com/consumer/en/Camerakit.
I am hoping you all have an explanation/some enlightenment!
P30 Lite specification
Could anybody share Camera2 API Prob results here for Huawei P30 Lite?