I have spent days trying to figure out if I can purchase myself a 1910 or 1913 version of OP 7T Pro, flash it with the 1917 "Global" ROM and have it work with ALL bands in Canada.
According to the OP 7T Pro specs page, there's 2 bands missing: 30 & 71. All the rest are there, and 71 is not terribly important here yet, it will be implemented in the future and is mainly useful for USA roaming on T-mobile.
Now I am aware that there a T-mobile 5G version, I have no interest in this, there is barely any 5G coverage in Canada and in the particular area I live in there is in-fact zero coverage and not expected for quite some time. Also the T-mobile version has it's own separate OS which is seemingly distributed by T-mobile and not OP.
When I check Wikipedia article on OnePlus 7T Pro it lists 3 versions of 7T Pro:
HD1910 (China)
HD1911 (India)
HD1913 (EU) - there's no mention of any HD1917, and the 5G T-mobile version is HD1925.
All previous OnePlus phones including the 7T Standard which uses the same wireless chipset supports the proper bands so I'm sure its something that just needs to be enabled in the ROM configuration.
I'm not sure if there's a method that you can pull up all of the currently enabled bands on your particular phone with an app or a command or checking some file with root?
Does anyone happen to know the full list of bands that are enabled in the HD1917 version of the software (and if so, can you post the command and maybe a screenshot of your enabled bands??)
The other question I have is:
As I understand there is absolutely zero hardware differences between HD1910, HD1911 & HD1913.
Is it purely which version of the ROM that was installed for the region of it's intended market?
Then, on top of that - might there be IMEI issues? IMEI's are usually assigned per region? And do those define what bands are enabled in anyway?
Does it affect anything else such as WiFI regional settings if I have, say, a China HD1910 edition?
And lastly, is HD1917 ROM also flashable on a McLaren edition? Would you lose McLaren "bonuses"?
Thanks guys, hope one of you can shed a bit of light on these for me.
Psipherious said:
I have spent days trying to figure out if I can purchase myself a 1910 or 1913 version of OP 7T Pro, flash it with the 1917 "Global" ROM and have it work with ALL bands in Canada.
According to the OP 7T Pro specs page, there's 2 bands missing: 30 & 71. All the rest are there, and 71 is not terribly important here yet, it will be implemented in the future and is mainly useful for USA roaming on T-mobile.
Now I am aware that there a T-mobile 5G version, I have no interest in this, there is barely any 5G coverage in Canada and in the particular area I live in there is in-fact zero coverage and not expected for quite some time. Also the T-mobile version has it's own separate OS which is seemingly distributed by T-mobile and not OP.
When I check Wikipedia article on OnePlus 7T Pro it lists 3 versions of 7T Pro:
HD1910 (China)
HD1911 (India)
HD1913 (EU) - there's no mention of any HD1917, and the 5G T-mobile version is HD1925.
All previous OnePlus phones including the 7T Standard which uses the same wireless chipset supports the proper bands so I'm sure its something that just needs to be enabled in the ROM configuration.
I'm not sure if there's a method that you can pull up all of the currently enabled bands on your particular phone with an app or a command or checking some file with root?
Does anyone happen to know the full list of bands that are enabled in the HD1917 version of the software (and if so, can you post the command and maybe a screenshot of your enabled bands??)
The other question I have is:
As I understand there is absolutely zero hardware differences between HD1910, HD1911 & HD1913.
Is it purely which version of the ROM that was installed for the region of it's intended market?
Then, on top of that - might there be IMEI issues? IMEI's are usually assigned per region? And do those define what bands are enabled in anyway?
Does it affect anything else such as WiFI regional settings if I have, say, a China HD1910 edition?
And lastly, is HD1917 ROM also flashable on a McLaren edition? Would you lose McLaren "bonuses"?
Thanks guys, hope one of you can shed a bit of light on these for me.
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Bell is essentially att in Canada right?. I'm using a 1910 on att should work with bell
After rethinking my whole initial post I suppose I'm really only looking for 2 things here. Those being:
1. Can you simply flash HD1917 onto HD1910 (or 1913) model without any issues at all?
2. Does anyone have a list of bands that are enabled in HD1917 version?
I don't mean from Wikipedia or even from OnePlus website but rather an enabled band list directly off the phone itself with a HD1917 ROM installed.
Unfortunately I haven't been able to figure out how to get such a list without using untrusted apps that want access to root.
Does anyone have a clue how to get this list? Maybe it can be read in a system file somewhere?
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Unfortunately I haven't been able to figure out how to get such a list without using untrusted apps that want access to root.
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If any of you are daring enough to try, I came across a root tool, referenced from here:
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/78974/how-can-i-find-out-which-bands-my-phone-supports
Actual APK download is here:
https://t.me/ru_fieldtest_modemcaps/748
Telegram is required to download the APK, here are instructions pages (translate to English if you don't speak Russian)
https://telegra.ph/ru-fieldtest-modemcaps-intro-03-26
https://telegra.ph/ru-fieldtest-modemcaps-faq-03-26
Anyway, if you have root and grant this access, it will report all bands that your current phone build supports.
I'm really looking specifically for HD1917 builds, we already know what the other builds support purely from OnePlus specs page & Wikipedia. I mainly wish to know if this "Global" version of this ROM adds any extra bands for North America.
Really appreciate anyone who does this for me. Thanks!
I'm back again! I believe I discovered a way to list supported/enabled bands without root now as well if anyone would like to try and report back (please include your specific actual model number as well, HD1910, 1911, 1913 or whatever you have).
Simply install this app (which only requires a single permission, install shortcuts):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.szalkowski.activitylauncher
- Once that's installed, load it up and scroll way down to "RFToolkit".
- Click it to expand it, then long press/hold on "Band[][]" (the two squares are some Asian letters).
- Hit "Create shortcut". It will add it to your home screen.
- Then from your home Screen simply launch Band[][] and it should list enabled & disabled bands on your OS.
If nothing is checked you can try "Reset to default" and it should check all the normally enabled ones.
Sometimes you also have to launch the app a few times for it to properly list bands (at least I have had to). Closing all background apps sometimes helps with this it seems.
toolhas4degrees said:
Bell is essentially att in Canada right?. I'm using a 1910 on att should work with bell
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As to toolhas4degrees, sorry for not responding to you earlier.
Here are the Canadian bands that should be supported:
Bell ---- 2/4/5/7/12/17/29/30/40/66
Rogers -- 2/4/5/7/12/17/66
Telus --- 2/4/5/7/12/17/29/30/40/66
Freedom - 4/66/71
I don't believe any edition of the 7T Pro supports 30 on any firmware version (but the chipset does support it if we can find a way to enable it, with that said, 30 is barely used and may even be entirely discontinued so it's not a big deal) - interestingly though, the 7 Pro also doesn't support 40, yet the 6T supports both :-/
As to AT&T, here's the list of U.S. carrier bands:
AT&T ----- 2/4/5/12/17/29/66
T-Mobile - 2/4/5/12/46/48/66/71
Verizon -- 2/4/5/13/46/48/66
So yes, you are right, AT&T & Bell/Telus use very similar, pretty much identical bands.
Psipherious said:
I'm back again! I believe I discovered a way to list supported/enabled bands without root now as well if anyone would like to try and report back (please include your specific actual model number as well, HD1910, 1911, 1913 or whatever you have).
Simply install this app (which only requires a single permission, install shortcuts):
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.szalkowski.activitylauncher
- Once that's installed, load it up and scroll way down to "RFToolkit".
- Click it to expand it, then long press/hold on "Band[][]" (the two squares are some Asian letters).
- Hit "Create shortcut". It will add it to your home screen.
- Then from your home Screen simply launch Band[][] and it should list enabled & disabled bands on your OS.
If nothing is checked you can try "Reset to default" and it should check all the normally enabled ones.
Sometimes you also have to launch the app a few times for it to properly list bands (at least I have had to). Closing all background apps sometimes helps with this it seems.
As to toolhas4degrees, sorry for not responding to you earlier.
Here are the Canadian bands that should be supported:
Bell ---- 2/4/5/7/12/17/29/30/40/66
Rogers -- 2/4/5/7/12/17/66
Telus --- 2/4/5/7/12/17/29/30/40/66
Freedom - 4/66/71
I don't believe any edition of the 7T Pro supports 30 on any firmware version (but the chipset does support it if we can find a way to enable it, with that said, 30 is barely used and may even be entirely discontinued so it's not a big deal) - interestingly though, the 7 Pro also doesn't support 40, yet the 6T supports both :-/
As to AT&T, here's the list of U.S. carrier bands:
AT&T ----- 2/4/5/12/17/29/66
T-Mobile - 2/4/5/12/46/48/66/71
Verizon -- 2/4/5/13/46/48/66
So yes, you are right, AT&T & Bell/Telus use very similar, pretty much identical bands.
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Well if you use bell or Telus the 1910 would work fine. IDK about 5g bs etc, bc it is so minimal it won't be prevalent for 3 to 5 years
Hey,
I'm not sure if to create a new post for this. but:
I'm a bit confused I have OnePlus 7t Pro Mclaren Edition - but it states it is HD1913 and not HD1925.
We just got 5G in my country and I think that HD1913 doesn't support it in a hardware level.
Any ideas?
I tried to do:
https://mt-tech.fi/en/modify-oneplus-7-pro-5g-8-and-8-pro-nr-lte-a-band-combos/
But no luck
Psipherious said:
I have spent days trying to figure out if I can purchase myself a 1910 or 1913 version of OP 7T Pro, flash it with the 1917 "Global" ROM and have it work with ALL bands in Canada.
According to the OP 7T Pro specs page, there's 2 bands missing: 30 & 71. All the rest are there, and 71 is not terribly important here yet, it will be implemented in the future and is mainly useful for USA roaming on T-mobile.
Now I am aware that there a T-mobile 5G version, I have no interest in this, there is barely any 5G coverage in Canada and in the particular area I live in there is in-fact zero coverage and not expected for quite some time. Also the T-mobile version has it's own separate OS which is seemingly distributed by T-mobile and not OP.
When I check Wikipedia article on OnePlus 7T Pro it lists 3 versions of 7T Pro:
HD1910 (China)
HD1911 (India)
HD1913 (EU) - there's no mention of any HD1917, and the 5G T-mobile version is HD1925.
All previous OnePlus phones including the 7T Standard which uses the same wireless chipset supports the proper bands so I'm sure its something that just needs to be enabled in the ROM configuration.
I'm not sure if there's a method that you can pull up all of the currently enabled bands on your particular phone with an app or a command or checking some file with root?
Does anyone happen to know the full list of bands that are enabled in the HD1917 version of the software (and if so, can you post the command and maybe a screenshot of your enabled bands??)
The other question I have is:
As I understand there is absolutely zero hardware differences between HD1910, HD1911 & HD1913.
Is it purely which version of the ROM that was installed for the region of it's intended market?
Then, on top of that - might there be IMEI issues? IMEI's are usually assigned per region? And do those define what bands are enabled in anyway?
Does it affect anything else such as WiFI regional settings if I have, say, a China HD1910 edition?
And lastly, is HD1917 ROM also flashable on a McLaren edition? Would you lose McLaren "bonuses"?
Thanks guys, hope one of you can shed a bit of light on these for me.
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I am from Quebec, city and I have the Chinese version HD1910 for a few months already and everything is really functional, no difference with the other that I had the HD1913, I am on the Telus network and no loss or drop in signal.
yotamleo11 said:
Hey,
I'm not sure if to create a new post for this. but:
I'm a bit confused I have OnePlus 7t Pro Mclaren Edition - but it states it is HD1913 and not HD1925.
We just got 5G in my country and I think that HD1913 doesn't support it in a hardware level.
Any ideas?
I tried to do:
https://mt-tech.fi/en/modify-oneplus-7-pro-5g-8-and-8-pro-nr-lte-a-band-combos/
But no luck
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When I was looking for my 7t pro on eBay. I'm pretty sure I saw a 4G model of the McLaren that wasn't T-Mobile branded. Maybe check GSMArena or something like that for the specs of that model number. I think I just googled the 7t pro model number list.
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Hi all,
I was wondering if the Honor 5X was capable of having additional LTE bands enabled, specifically bands 3 and 8? According to GSM Arena, the non-US versions of this phone support that band. I've seen that some other phones, such as the old Nexus could have additional bands added.
I'm a newbie to phone hardware, so apologies if this is a dumb question.
I'd like to know the answer to this question too. I found this thread on the very same topic, but for the Nexus 5. It serves as a good place to gather relevant info, and learn about the problem.
What I've gathered so far is that a phone needs a couple pieces of hardware (Radio Frequency Front End components Filters and Power Amplifier Module) to enable a particular LTE band. We can find this information if we have a service manual. Do you know if we have one available for KIW-L24?
If the hardware is available, we may be able to enable it by editing an Android OS system file (not exactly sure yet).
If that doesn't work, we'll have to edit the qualcomm radio firmware, enable the bands, and flash it back to the device. I think we'll need to find some leaked software from qualcomm to do this (QRCT-TOOLS-NV Manager or something)
I have this same problem. but Flashing it with another region firmware say Indian version of honor 5x that has band 3 and 8 will it work? I learnt the American version has it but locked.
I support this question too. I would be very grateful with the one capable of answering it. If the hardware in different versions of the phone is exactly the same, then one should be able to, at least, enable all the bands supported by those different versions.
Did any of you have a solution for this?
I am also looking for having/unlocking additonal bands on the device.
Thank you!
ivissani said:
I support this question too. I would be very grateful with the one capable of answering it. If the hardware in different versions of the phone is exactly the same, then one should be able to, at least, enable all the bands supported by those different versions.
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cogbuagu said:
I have this same problem. but Flashing it with another region firmware say Indian version of honor 5x that has band 3 and 8 will it work? I learnt the American version has it but locked.
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JT-on said:
I'd like to know the answer to this question too. I found this thread on the very same topic, but for the Nexus 5. It serves as a good place to gather relevant info, and learn about the problem.
What I've gathered so far is that a phone needs a couple pieces of hardware (Radio Frequency Front End components Filters and Power Amplifier Module) to enable a particular LTE band. We can find this information if we have a service manual. Do you know if we have one available for KIW-L24?
If the hardware is available, we may be able to enable it by editing an Android OS system file (not exactly sure yet).
If that doesn't work, we'll have to edit the qualcomm radio firmware, enable the bands, and flash it back to the device. I think we'll need to find some leaked software from qualcomm to do this (QRCT-TOOLS-NV Manager or something)
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donpaisa said:
Hi all,
I was wondering if the Honor 5X was capable of having additional LTE bands enabled, specifically bands 3 and 8? According to GSM Arena, the non-US versions of this phone support that band. I've seen that some other phones, such as the old Nexus could have additional bands added.
I'm a newbie to phone hardware, so apologies if this is a dumb question.
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legendnexus said:
Did any of you have a solution for this?
I am also looking for having/unlocking additonal bands on the device.
Thank you!
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As of my knowledge, Honor 5x doesn't have capability to support additional bands from the hardware perspective. Thats why each region has each build with different model number supporting their respective region bands.
vsriram92 said:
As of my knowledge, Honor 5x doesn't have capability to support additional bands from the hardware perspective. Thats why each region has each build with different model number supporting their respective region bands.
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Non sense , when you said that it's like saying huawei built each honor 5x with different hardware which is not true only the Kiw-AL10 is different, the LTE bands are just locked on each device.
I think you will need some huawei honor support to know at least which hardware antenna is present in your kiw_l24.
I guess with google you can not find the hardware layout of honor 5x or which component is installed.
There are two cases:
1/ hardware antenna for a specific band is present but not used (usecase: for certain country, Constructor is validating only the corresponding bands)
--> you can here flash a firmware from another country to be able to use these bands
2/hardware antenna for a specific band is not present
--> you can do nothing
You can try to flash firmware from other country (l22 formware which support band 3 and 8) but i guess it might brick your phone.
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/GNNe9/huawei-honor-5x-lte-dual-sim-kiw-l24
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/AZMpV/huawei-honor-5x-td-lte-kiw-l22
The same issue
Any news about how to enable the frequencies in the model KIW-l24?
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
List of all CSCs included in the OXM CSC:
Samsung Multi-CSC OXM
Suggestions are welcome, and as I've pointed out, if you've spotted any errors, issues or inconsistencies within the document, you can drop me a PM here and I'll fix it.
Cheers,
murtaza02
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Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
henklbr said:
Why starting this thread, while the OXM-info is already here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73879369&postcount=3
Your document could also be implemented in that message (you just had to ask!)...
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The document I linked shows what each CSC actually stands for.
You can link it in the first post if you want.
murtaza02 said:
Had made the same thread in the S8+ forums when I had that phone, however I upgraded to the N8 and have made the same thread here since it helped a lot of people in the S8 forum.
Full list of available Note 8 variants with all supported bands and storage options:
Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Variants List
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This is brilliant. Thanks! Have been trying to find a complete, intelligible list for a few days now. Should have started at XDA of course ...
Small correction: XEH stands for Hungarian unlocked only, Vodafone, Telenor and T-Mobile all have their own CSC codes (VDH, PAN and TMH, respectively - PAN because Telenor used to be Pannon GSM Hungary).
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
Almighty1 said:
Am i correct that in the US, the carrier variants and even the unlocked version are all identical hardware with the same bands supported and it's just the software is different?
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Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
Sent from my G8142
murtaza02 said:
Yes you are correct.
There's a carrier switching guide in the forums as well.
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Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
Almighty1 said:
Yeah, I saw the carrier switching guide. I was just confused as someone mentioned that the hardware was all the same so the band support is the same except the carrier might have their own bloatware but the page below seems to indicate that the unlocked US and US Carriers is different when it came to band support. Can I get the Verizon version and have all the bands enabled or do I have to get the unlocked US version?
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-note-8-sm-n950-model-number-differences/
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That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
murtaza02 said:
That article is a steaming pile of BS.
The US variants all support the same bands.
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Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
Almighty1 said:
Thanks, just wanted to make sure that I get the right one so when I travel outside the U.S., it will support everything. Am I correct that the only difference might be some may have bootloaders that won't be unlocked while others might when it came to carrier variants?
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Well actually, Samsung locked everyone out so it doesn't really matter which variant you have, both the N950U (carrier variants) and N950U1 (unlocked variants) have locked bootloaders.
All of them should work fine outside the US when roaming, wouldn't really recommend it if you live outside the US though.
Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
Almighty1 said:
Yeah, I meant I thought some bootloaders would become unlocked later, I just know the Verizon one never seems to get unlocked compared to T-Mobile for example even with other brands of phones. If I had a choice, I would get the 128GB model which is available outside the U.S. except I don't know if it supports all the U.S. bands. Just wished Samsung was like Apple when it came to band support like the unlocked SIM free which seems to have support for all bands except for Japan when it came to 4G LTE as without the proper support, it will roam but be in 3G for data instead of 4G. With that said, just looked at the chart you provided and it seems like the SM-N9500 would be ideal for the 128GB or 256GB internal storage except it is missing the following bands which is on the US models:
3G (UMTS/HSPA): 1700
4G (LTE): B13, B17, B18, B29, B30, B66, B252, B255
So it seems it is actually the US model that has more band support while the China model has more internal storage.
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That is correct. Chinese variant and Korean variants have the most storage options while the rest of the world is left with 64GB only.
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Hey guys any help with this would be amazing. I grabbed this for really cheap the other day and thought it would be able to use ATT LTE since others have had success but no matter what it will only connect to H+ even when LTE finder finds the band I wanted. Really frusted as I thought I got the right model. There is only ONE international one right? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks you guys. Hopefully I didn't mess up and get a wrong version or something though I can return it if I did.
I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
danman0 said:
I'm having the same issue, but on T-mobile! I don't know how to fix this.
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What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
sting12345 said:
What I can't understand or just not knowing is the amazon version I have does 1,3,5,8 and up but the listings on Ebay have them 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,12 etc...basically all bands which I can't seem to figure out. Is there a difference? I have the UK model which is the Worldwide model not the chinese one but are there OTHER regional differences that unlock more bands? Is there a way to manually force this if so? I figured return to amazon and then get the ebay version but that is stupid if they are incorrect and they really dont' cover 2,4,5,12 for ATT that is needed.
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I searched around today and found this. Scroll down to the connectivity part and you see that the phone supports 1 of 5 ATT LTE bands, and 0 of 5 T-Mobile LTE bands. However, I'm not sure if this information is accurate since my phone detects a neighboring band 4 LTE cell tower (which my old phone instantly connected to), but does not connect to it. Also, why is the rest of the forum quiet about this issue? Is it really just me and you that are experiencing it (or that live in the US)? I also am very confused why Huawei removed the USSD code menu option wherein you could force it to LTE. I've heard that changing something in the build.prop can force it, but you need to be rooted for that, and I've gotten bored of rooting phones lol (and the risks involved).
Luckily, for me, this isn't that big of a problem as data still works (albeit slowly), and in the beginning of September I'll be in France for at least a year. So, I made sure that this phone's bands matched up with what the carriers are on in France, so hopefully I should be fine. Otherwise, it's a sleek, awesome phone.
Honor 10 isnt made for US and US bands, even if its the global version. The bands in US are different from those in EU or Asia.
As the guy above confirmed this, the it has just one LTE compatbile band at ATT.
the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
saroeum said:
the one on ebay global version from Singapore is not what u think. there's a misprint on its ad. these are the actual bandwidths it supports ;
col~L29
Primary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
Secondary SIM card:
4G LTE TDD: B38/B40/B41
4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B19/B20
3G WCDMA: B1/B2/B5/B8/B6/B19
2G GSM: B2/B3/B5/B8
I want to tweak the build. prop, too, but root is required but, unfortunately, Huawei pulled that recent maneuver everyone frustrated about.
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Yeap its a bit dead end without unlocking the bootloader. I dont know if by building and compiling original firmware from released sources and make the changes there, if it would allow you to install it.
Yes I too can pick up band 4 on LTE finder on my phone but I cannot use it, if I could then I would have fine coverage. If I go 5 miles away the other half of the city has full ATT LTE 5 coverage so I was bummed LOL when I went up there and saw full bars LTE+ LOL. Yeah the ebay guys are just putting false info then. I have my bootloader code to unlock as I have done to my V10 but not sure how that would enable the other band 4 I need. I don't have quite that much experience.
I don't know if there is something comparable to this available to be done (since Honor 10 has a Kirin and not a qualcomm), but I'm just going to leave this here for now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/general/how-to-add-rf-lte-frequency-bands-to-t2886059
I don't know if Honor went the route of having a few more lte bands and just disabling them in software since my phone does detect band 4 lte, but can't connect to it, but what do I know.
I have the same issue on t-mobile network.
From all the research i did it looks like the US bands are software locked. P20 supports all LTE bands (including US) and it runs on the same chipset, Kirin 970. Also as few people said, they are able to see band 4 in LTE discovery (and other apps), I can see it as well, but can't connect.
As for the software to unlock lte bands, there is nothing like that for Kirin right now.
The only option for now is to find the right modem files, edit them and flash to the device. At least that's the only thing that comes to my mind.
I'm digging through source files, which were released by Huawei, whenever i have a chance, but i'm not even sure what I'm looking for.
really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
sting12345 said:
really sucks because of all the phones I have (a lot LOL) this is by far my favorite one to use, the way the backing was slightly curved and everyting is just perfect except for that pesky LTE issue. I know they are software locked like you said but have no way of getting it unlocked. I hve picked up LTE 4 here as well but cannot use it at all. I can get full 4g LTE when I drive 5 five miles up the road LOL but only 3g+ here at my home which is the issue. Argggg.....i have about a week left before i have to return it or keep it so I'm on the fence. My honor v10 with 970 has all bands, and my P20 lite has all LTE bands too I just don't get it.
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This is my favorite too. I guess Huawei really just wants to push the more pricier p20's in the U.S, even though they aren't really in the U.S. market to begin with anymore. With very similar specs to the P20 pro, the honor 10 would easily take away sales from the P20. Can't stop gearbest though, lol. Anyways, the extent of my modification to an android device was decompiling a rom (I think?), editing in specific MCC/MNC values for an AT&T MVNO in a certain file, recompiling it and flashing it to get 4gLTE back, since my phone thought it was roaming. I'm assuming the software-locked band information is a lot harder to find (or fix). I'm keeping my fingers crossed that HajmeR or others manage to find what we're looking for-maybe I'll even give it a go.
The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
yeah i got my refund already from amazon and looking for a replacement, I don't like phones that are 72 mm or wider they are hard to hold, so my view 10 is tough at 75 mm..........the lg g7 is only 71 mm wide and 6.1 screen which is incredible but VERY pricey and it's LG, we know how they are on updates of ANY kind. I have the P20 lite too, which get's every single band in the USA on GSM, I don't get why the honor 10 was hampered so much because I'm not gonna buy the more expensive P20 i've used one and they are not nearly as nice feeling as the honor 10, the body is totally different not curved at all on back and feels like crap.
So the search is on, lenovo has an 845 with samsung super AMOLED on amazon for 450 with 6 gig RAM and 64 ROM and all the other bells and whistles edcept it's not glass on back which is actually like. I really really wanted the nokia 6.1 plus which is perfect in every way except once again 1,3,5, bands only LOL. So not go again. The Xiaomi A2 lite is interesting, metal back, 4000 ma battery which is insanely big, but then only 2.4 wifi and microusb LOL? 625 processor but only 200 bucks so really a good value and get's every band like the p20 lite.
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The question is whether LTE bands are only locked in software on your device or whether there really is a reason in hardware (missing antennas and such) that prevents you from using your preferred bands. People seem to disagree on this topic. Some claim that hardware reasons will prevent you from changing the set of allowed bands; however,
with respect to the Honor 6X, it seems that altering the oeminfo partition (https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/help/debrand-to-enable-lte-bands-indian-t3663359) can make a difference with respect to allowed LTE bands.
I have a Chinese Honor 10 (COL-AL10) which I rebranded to COL-L29 C432 by adjusting (not completely replacing) oeminfo, more precisely by carefully editing model number etc. Everything works well, but I noticed that the device does not connect to LTE band 20 towers that are in my neighborhood - even though I can connect to them when I put my sim card into a different phone. The Chinese COL-AL10 does not have band 20, so this lock or unavailability of band 20 seems to have survived the rebranding. A real COL-L29 C432 would be able to connect to band 20.
So, to investigate this further, one would have to study the oeminfo partition of a real COL-L29 C432 and investigate where information on the available LTE bands is stored - if this piece of information is hidden in the oeminfo partition. I can share the oeminfo of the COL-AL10 but have to make sure that my IMEI number cannot be extracted from it.
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I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
banch said:
I just happened to trade my Samsung Galaxy S7 to Honor 10 andit happens to be that what you're looking for. Can you help me out to help you how to get that information.
I uploaded screenshot where to check its correct build.
Hope this camera beats Galaxy S7 as thats the only reason to change phone at the first place.
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Do you have an unlocked bootloader? Otherwise, you cannot read out the oeminfo partition.
I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
banch said:
I'm sorry I don't have it right now. Maybe I'll root this later on then or can I lock the bootloader again?
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Wouldn't you need to pay a third party to unlock it at this point? Or do you keep an unlock code obtained earlier from the days when huawei handled bootloader unlocking? Just wondering. I've kind of learned to suck it up at this point since I'm no longer in the US, so the band issues only affect me when traveling back. However, if there is anyone out there with an unlocked bootloader that can share the oeminfo/know how to understand it, it would be nice to finally figure out if this really is a hardware issue or a software lock.
Hi,
There are 3 carriers offering 5G in my city at the moment, which are using bands that N10 supports, but it's not connecting with 5G and when I search manually, it shows only networks up to 4G. The phone is updated.
Which version? EU or NA ? And does your provider have 5G?
Have same issue with NA version in Germany. with *#*#4636#*#* you can enable "NR network" which is 5G. but not in normal settings - typing 5G in setting search does show some additional settings that are invisible - i suspect it might be disabled and i don't have 5G provider anyways.
EU version (BE2029). It turns out that NR is enabled by default.
Now I realized that for some reason I have NA ROM 10.5.9 BE86AA instead of 10.5.9.BE89BA one.
Flashing the EU ROM did not help.
Ksarin112 said:
Flashing the EU ROM did not help.
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What did you flash? Boot image or cross-flash with msm download tool?
I did a 'full OTA' update through system app using update file from this article https://www.xda-developers.com/oneplus-nord-n10-5g-oxygenos-10-5-9/
I have tested again with a new 5G enabled SIM and everything works as expected - Obviously the system disables the 5G settings without a fitting SIM. This was with T-Mobile Germany.
ROM is 10.5.9 BE86
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I have tested again with a new 5G enabled SIM and everything works as expected - Obviously the system disables the 5G settings without a fitting SIM. This was with T-Mobile Germany.
ROM is 10.5.9 BE86
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No issues with NA version on US TMO with the correct SIM.
I have 5g working in USA on Visible (Verizon). I had to enable NR in the *#*#4636#*#* settings. It's resets after reboot unfortunately. Hopefully an update will allow us to select 5g from the normal settings menu. A but disappointed this phone didn't come with that option already enabled.
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No issues with NA version on US TMO with the correct SIM.
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Spoke to soon - 5g works, but about 30% slower then my 8pro. Also doesn't connect is weak places the other one does ??
Mine works great on TMobile USA 5G. I did try an Unreal SIm (AT&T) and it does not get 5G, the setting for Preferred Network Type drops the 5G all together as an option.
I was wondering if the Canadian version is the US or International version? They have different 5G bands.
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I was wondering if the Canadian version is the US or International version? They have different 5G bands.
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Probably - so does international. You should get the detailed lists of bands for both phones and compare them to your carrier's bands.
I almost made a huge mistake of buying another of their "global" phones from China, but when I checked their bands, it was missing some US 5g and LTE bands.
Does anyone have an authoritative link or source for the different S23 ultra regional model variants and their respective bandwidth frequencies such as for 4g and 5g?
Can't find this information for any including the USA variant eg which specific frequencies of 4g and 5g does the USA model support?
The chipset and x70 modem makes it possible for this phone to truly be a global phone but.....
asking the same as well, cant find these details.
Here's hoping that the band unlock methods for the s22's and s21's also work on the s23's.
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Here's hoping that the band unlock methods for the s22's and s21's also work on the s23's.
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I'm sure it will be the same to unlock the bands, no one will really know until they have one in hand.
Can you elaborate on these band unlock methods?
And could they unlock mmwave for example on the international variants so that 5g could work in US? And unlock international bands on US version so it could work everywhere else?
evangelionpunk said:
Can you elaborate on these band unlock methods?
And could they unlock mmwave for example on the international variants so that 5g could work in US? And unlock international bands on US version so it could work everywhere else?
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This is the thread you probably want to have a look at. This method also worked for the s21's.
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
What is this? This is a guide on how to enable all LTE and 5G bands on the US or Canadian S22 series phones by going through the service menu. This guide is mostly based on this S20U guide by mellojosh, but has been adapted for the S22U phone...
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jcsww said:
This is the thread you probably want to have a look at. This method also worked for the s21's.
How to Enable All Bands Through Service Menu on US/CA S22 series (including Sub-6 and mmWave)
What is this? This is a guide on how to enable all LTE and 5G bands on the US or Canadian S22 series phones by going through the service menu. This guide is mostly based on this S20U guide by mellojosh, but has been adapted for the S22U phone...
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Interesting....
So basically you could enter the service menu and turn on all the extra bands?
In that case wouldn't the US version be the best one to have since it would have mmwave hardware baked in too? It should then work everywhere.
Though it sounds like you'll lose the function on os updates and resets?
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Interesting....
So basically you could enter the service menu and turn on all the extra bands?
In that case wouldn't the US version be the best one to have since it would have mmwave hardware baked in too? It should then work everywhere.
Though it sounds like you'll lose the function on os updates and resets?
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OS updates from Samsung are never fast. Doing so once every 2 to 3 months isn't so bad for the extra band support.
Samsung's modem software works well for the US and Canada because the hardware is the same and only the modem software separates the bands based on carrier/region. Due to the wide spread of mess across North America, US and Canadian models are always a good choice for potential band support. In some cases though, mixed ROM's can also bridge the support. In the S9 days, you could.jeep.the base.for.your region but flash the carrier side of the firmware to unlock band 71 on some overseas models. I don't know if this is still possible today but with all devices being very similar. I am hoping the hardware, including dual-SIM pins on the main board, will be there to enable through a firmware change or mod.
Do we know if the international dual sim variant has the same USA hardware based on s22/21/20?
Does it have mmwave baked in but just disabled by software?
I am still not clear what 5G bands are supported on the SM-S918BZKPEUB, nor if unlocking the bands through the service menu works. @UK S23, your deliveries are in place already, has anyone tried?
It seems as though the bands might only be disabled in software? If so, then it should be possible to enable whatever band you need. The only exception would be if a hardware component is needed or missing then it wouldn't be possible which likely wouldn't be the case for your 3g, 4g and 5g standard range. Maybe only 5g mmwave which is essentially only in US anyway.
If that's the case it sounds like US variant might be the best to get for global coverage barring lack of dual sim (though it does have physical+esim).
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It seems as though the bands might only be disabled in software? If so, then it should be possible to enable whatever band you need. The only exception would be if a hardware component is needed or missing then it wouldn't be possible which likely wouldn't be the case for your 3g, 4g and 5g standard range. Maybe only 5g mmwave which is essentially only in US anyway.
If that's the case it sounds like US variant might be the best to get for global coverage barring lack of dual sim (though it does have physical+esim).
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Samsung's band support is mostly software, at least when it comes to 4G and 5G. I have never bothered to change 2G and 3G bands because there is no use for them unless you are in a very rural area or roaming. This is why it is so easy to convert the North American models and why in the days of the S9+, you could get band 71 on international models with dual-SIM.
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Samsung's band support is mostly software, at least when it comes to 4G and 5G. I have never bothered to change 2G and 3G bands because there is no use for them unless you are in a very rural area or roaming. This is why it is so easy to convert the North American models and why in the days of the S9+, you could get band 71 on international models with dual-SIM.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't get mmwave bands on the international dual sim models right?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but you can't get mmwave bands on the international dual sim models right?
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I'm not sure when it comes to mmWave. You can enable it on the W for Canada even though the cell coverage and technologies used up there are probably never going to deploy it. Overseas, I have no idea.
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I'm not sure when it comes to mmWave. You can enable it on the W for Canada even though the cell coverage and technologies used up there are probably never going to deploy it. Overseas, I have no idea.
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I've read that the US and CA models are basically identical so that might explain it. It's also possible I suppose that in s23 since it uses x70 modem, which has native support built in, that all model variants might be able to do it but for software. Though we won't know for sure till someone from different region goes into their service menu and checks.
mmWave requires a specific antenna to function. This antenna used to cost like $50 but I'd be surprised if it's gone down much beyond $30 so manufacturers will still leave it out if it's not necessary.
EtherealRemnant said:
mmWave requires a specific antenna to function. This antenna used to cost like $50 but I'd be surprised if it's gone down much beyond $30 so manufacturers will still leave it out if it's not necessary.
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Thanks and that probably means it likely won't be in other region variants.
Personally, I'd just make a single phone that is globally universal and can be used everywhere. The massive scale should drop the component pricing considerably. Carrier exclusives and market restrictions if any needed in software only. But that's just me lol.
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Thanks and that probably means it likely won't be in other region variants.
Personally, I'd just make a single phone that is globally universal and can be used everywhere. The massive scale should drop the component pricing considerably. Carrier exclusives and market restrictions if any needed in software only. But that's just me lol.
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Yes, you would think they would do this, but Samsung has always customized difference models for different regions so it must not be that straightforward. I believe that regulatory bodies would require them to test and submit all the documentation for that extra antenna, for example. It also wouldn't surprise me if the mmWave equipment is outright banned in some regions either for whatever reason.
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Yes, you would think they would do this, but Samsung has always customized difference models for different regions so it must not be that straightforward. I believe that regulatory bodies would require them to test and submit all the documentation for that extra antenna, for example. It also wouldn't surprise me if the mmWave equipment is outright banned in some regions either for whatever reason.
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Yeah.
Are iphones globally all exactly the same now?
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Yeah.
Are iphones globally all exactly the same now?
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No. There are 5 different models of iPhone 14 Pro Max, for example, and each will have different band configurations.
That said, the NA models have the most complete bands of any device released so far this year and it was released last year with an older modem. They even have support for Dish Network's n70, a band exclusive to them worldwide, something Samsung didn't even choose to support on their NA variant this year despite having a contract with Dish for radio equipment supporting that band.
I actually think the NA iPhone 14 Pro models support every commercially available band worldwide but I don't really keep up on bands not used in the US.
iPhone 14 Pro Max Model Number A2651, A2893, A2894, A2896, A2895 Differences - TechWalls
The iPhone 14 Pro Max comes in 5 model numbers, which are A2651, A2893, A2894, A2896, and A2895. Let's check out their differences and all the part numbers.
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