Hi, I am thinking to buy the Mi A3, since it got android one, OLED and much more. But I want to know, does the device standard on what it promises, so I want your opinion. Should I buy it or just go for other device.
riyan65 said:
Hi, I am thinking to buy the Mi A3, since it got android one, OLED and much more. But I want to know, does the device standard on what it promises, so I want your opinion. Should I buy it or just go for other device.
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The Android one project is really a scam at this point its may and still have a very buggy version of Android 10 that way delivered in April, the OLED is a good pannel but the resolution isn't the best ,the battery is good tho, I would recommend you to look for another device.
For the bad, honestly, it's the bugs. If you don't mind the bugs, most of them can be worked around without root. But the android 10 update has solved quite a few of them.
The fingerprint scanner can be really annoying sometimes, but it requires muscle memory. Push harder than the fingerprint you recorded and it won't recognize it.
The screen is OK. I don't really care for the dpi. It's perfectly sharp for average use.
Now the good.
Battery life is AMAZING. I consistently get over 12 hours of SOT, rarely less than 10.
The camera is very, very, very good. Pictures are just incredibly nice for this price range.
And the price. Really.
If you want an amazing battery life, buy it. No other phone I know in this price range has this battery life.
If you have ~160€ I think this is the best you can find for that price. If you don't have more money to spare, sure go for it. And know you'll have to workaround some bugs.
If you can get a little more money, get other phone.
If you don't wanna workaround the bugs, maybe check the Redmi note 8, but know the battery life ain't as good.
riyan65 said:
Hi, I am thinking to buy the Mi A3, since it got android one, OLED and much more. But I want to know, does the device standard on what it promises, so I want your opinion. Should I buy it or just go for other device.
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The only thing that I have been bothering me it is the amount of bugs with Android 10, Xiaomi solved one of them, but for me it is really anoying.
I was prefer wait three or four months more for Android 10, but without bugs.
No.
It is a great phone overall. What are the other alternatives? I got mine on nice sale. I personally wanted these specifications, so i got it.
NFC was maybe the only compromise. What else you can get?
- Huawei nova 5t? it may be better, was not released when i bought my phone, ot it was pricier, not sure. + have NFC
- Samsung Galaxy a30s- my girlfriend have that, the camera is not better, i even think it is worse, the battery may be better, her phone can hold some juice for a long time, like 2 days+, but you can do it with mi a3 also, the display is the same, exactly the same, but my fingerprint is faster( you does not need to hold it long or to press hard like that guy told you, even sometimes it is that fast, when i am lifting it from table or take it out of my pocket and slightly touching the sensor area it just unlock), also you can't find really that much customisation. But you will have NFC.
Don't buy Xioami, to be honest, their customer service is so bad it's remarkable they are still in business. Get out the no account authorization issue they have, you have to buy black-market support to fix any issue. 0/10 for support, stay far.
mobile_fan_2k5 said:
Don't buy Xioami, to be honest, their customer service is so bad it's remarkable they are still in business. Get out the no account authorization issue they have, you have to buy black-market support to fix any issue. 0/10 for support, stay far.
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So it's better to play "black market" to be able to unlock your bootloader (Nokia) or that you can't unblock it at all (Huawei) or that it screws up your phone (Sony DRM, Samsung KNOX)? Don't be ridiculous, playing with bootloader and system has some risks, if you're not ready to eventually pay for your mistakes, keep your phone in stock state. Phone manufacturer has nothing to do with it.
mobile_fan_2k5 said:
Don't buy Xioami, to be honest, their customer service is so bad it's remarkable they are still in business. Get out the no account authorization issue they have, you have to buy black-market support to fix any issue. 0/10 for support, stay far.
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As far as i see you had a problem with the phone and you ended in a bootloop, that you had a problem it's your fault, in fact, if I'm not mistaken, they are the only company that allows unlocking, that's why there are so many developers..
That's one of the cheapest phones for the specs!
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So it's better to play "black market" to be able to unlock your bootloader (Nokia) or that you can't unblock it at all (Huawei) or that it screws up your phone (Sony DRM, Samsung KNOX)? Don't be ridiculous, playing with bootloader and system has some risks, if you're not ready to eventually pay for your mistakes, keep your phone in stock state. Phone manufacturer has nothing to do with it.
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Hi _mysiak_ Please read what I said :
I just said I am not a modder, I just ran an OTA and it's been dead since, and that's 5 months ago. The phone was stock, vanilla. I don't hack/mod phones I don't have the time.
Xiaomi forces us to go to the black market because they refuse to offer the correct support to customers
Again, I am not a modder/ hacker I did not mod my device. I did an OTA update and it went into boot loop ever since.
Check the MI forums this is not an edge case, Xiaomi have buggy OS updates that will kill your device (eg. Just like mine, check MI website hundreds, if not thousands of people have this issue and the only fix is to fly to China)
Check this official XDA post :
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-edl-unbrick-authorized-mi-accounts/
Overall I would not buy, nor recommend a Xiaomi, I don't trust the brand. But hey that's my opinion, You had a better experience so at least you're lucky.
mobile_fan_2k5 said:
Hi _mysiak_ Please read what I said :
I just said I am not a modder, I just ran an OTA and it's been dead since, and that's 5 months ago. The phone was stock, vanilla. I don't hack/mod phones I don't have the time.
Xiaomi forces us to go to the black market because they refuse to offer the correct support to customers
Again, I am not a modder/ hacker I did not mod my device. I did an OTA update and it went into boot loop ever since.
Check the MI forums this is not an edge case, Xiaomi have buggy OS updates that will kill your device (eg. Just like mine, check MI website hundreds, if not thousands of people have this issue and the only fix is to fly to China)
Check this official XDA post :
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-edl-unbrick-authorized-mi-accounts/
Overall I would not buy, nor recommend a Xiaomi, I don't trust the brand. But hey that's my opinion, You had a better experience so at least you're lucky.
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Sorry, misunderstood your post. If it's still in stock state, you should apply for a warranty repair. Or pay a small fee for a 3rd party service and they'll do it remotely. In both cases I don't understand why you waited 5 months.. [emoji846] These things are unfortunate, but they happen sometimes, just like HW failures.
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As far as i see you had a problem with the phone and you ended in a bootloop, that you had a problem it's your fault, in fact, if I'm not mistaken, they are the only company that allows unlocking, that's why there are so many developers..
That's one of the cheapest phones for the specs!
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Yes, they are cheap and other offer unlocking also, I m just giving a review of my experience. I am not a modder, I don't unlock or mod, root anything last time I did so was LG G4. I just a vanilla android phone user that ACCEPTED an official OTA update and ever since I haven't gotten to use the device and I was told support to fix is only in China.
Again that's my experience if you had a better one congrats.
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Sorry, misunderstood your post. If it's still in stock state, you should apply for a warranty repair. Or pay a small fee for a 3rd party service and they'll do it remotely. In both cases I don't understand why you waited 5 months.. [emoji846] These things are unfortunate, but they happen sometimes, just like HW failures.
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Yes, I tried to fix it from day one but ran into the no authorization issue. I bought off Amazon where they said the warranty has passed. I will decide soon enough if I should fix, either way, I have moved.
After seeing this amount of negative reviews, I am just going to pass this device. Maybe I will go for Motorola, since they provide update regularly and bootloader unlock is available too. So I will go for Motorola. Thank you all, for let me know your suggestions.
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How my dream phone mi5 became a nightmare for me!!
Mi5 was my dream phone, I had created a post at miui forum...
But 10 days and mi5 became a nightmare for me!!
I had fell in love with speed and beauty of the phone, with hybrid case it look so cool. People were jealous of it. But happy time ended soon...
Don't go for looks, they deceive you...
And what do i need to say about build quality, aluminum gets dent on simple force. You have to use super hybrid case.
The mi Protect Scam
I called the Mi Assist for activation of mi protect, but it wasn't activated even after calling 5 times. When I went service center, they don't have any spares parts for the mi5 phone... Why the hell you sell mi protect when you don't even have the provisions. Funny thing was mi assist marketing department, called me to insure my other devices... I always said first activate for what I paid for... Mi protect is a scam, indeed.
Just a hype, no global stable ROM for Mi 5
Mi 5 is your flagship, how come Xiaomi team are so lethargic about global ROM. If you can't be loyal to global users then why you made fake claims and why Xiaomi released the phone for Rest of the world.
The Amount of defective Mi5 phones are too high....
My camera had defect, home button wasn't responsive to soft press, over heating,I waited with hopes for updates but i lost mind when physical defect were discovered in camera. Im freelancer which demands me to use front camera for live assistance. My assignments are international (European) so phone is the only way of getting connected anytime and anywhere. Clients started complaining about white dots on my videos and phone heated too much while live assistance. It made impossible for me to continue and which spoiled my ratings.
I immediately went mi service center, thank god engineer at service center confirmed the defect in phone. The engineer tested for water damage and physical damage. After confirming device problem, he issued fault in device memo. Which helped me to request for replacement. It was luckily 10th day, from the date of purchase... Finally, successfully request was submitted.
Bluedart guy came within an 24 hour and picked up the phone.
The replacement product was also defective!!!! Xiaomi dont have any polices for get a defective replacement!
BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE.
I'm without a phone and also I sold my iPhone 5s for Mi5!! You can refer my post where I mentioned about selling iPhone 5s for Mi5. Thought iPhone wasn't great but going for Mi 5 was a mistake.
Spoke to customer care of mi India but they are hopeless and clueless.
They kept me on hold for asking trivial information, which wasn't related to my problem. Just for the sake of passing time. They keep on hold and after coming back from hold they speak as if they are talking for first time. Im fedup of the harrasment. I even said to deduct shipping cost and refund me the balance amount but they are so rigit.
The service which mi india provides is a pure harrasment.
I wish mi.com had refund policy and I move away from this hell. I'm disappointed and without further loss... im sure mi phones are having high chances of being defective as only lower variants are available which are unsold stock of china.
I can't afford this to be repeated.
But let's face it, Mi won't give refund.We all have to learn something from here. And beware of the mi policies and services.
There are too many problems in Mi5. Xiaomi need to fix what it can via software updates, ASAP. Also, this is a honest review for mi 5 which will help many buyers to know the real face of mi5 and mi. Only the engineer at service center was indeed helpful, I accept that. No doubts about other products, but people need to know the honest reviews not just fanboys flaunting just cause of getting forum credits at miui forum. Cause we build expectations from it and get disappointed.
The miui forum has hardly any use, just legal spammers for credits. When its time to help, they turn deaf ears. Very few helpful mods, which are hardworking....
Hope this helps users before making decision for Mi 5and also an eye opener for Xiaomi...
XDA is great, I missed you.
After a long time I'm posting on XDA. I use to own Samsung galaxy grand and s2...
I don't know how you using your phone...
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yiwsg said:
I don't know how you using your phone...
Sent from my MI 5 using Tapatalk
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Mate, can you please elobrate??
This doesn't sound very good. Hopefully your experience isn't encountered by others
unfortunately, this seems to be the real situation with so appreciated Mi 5 at the moment.
I was so eager to read each news and announcement about it, I was waiting for a really great phone with affordable price for so long, and in the end, it seems that all of us got just a big hype around quite troubled phone.
some of the issues with the phone could be theoretically solved in the future:
- shaky video recording could be improved by pairing EIS with existing OIS
- overall photo quality could be improved by using some 3rd party app and/or different camera driver
- not-so-widely adored MIUI could be replaced with some custom ROMs after kernel source is released
- one could try to be more cautious and not brake/bend the phone
- Xiaomi support could start acting as a useful service
- useless MIUI spam forum could be closed and people could get their unlock code without a need to post >500 "great"/"awesome"/"cool" replies on the newest Mi 5 screenshot
but, for some of those points Xiaomi has to change its own policy.
that's something, I'm afraid, we will not see in at least next 3 to 5 years...
had the phone from day no such issues.
not a single one u have pointed out.
berz said:
had the phone from day no such issues.
not a single one u have pointed out.
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Had mine for weeks now and not seen any of those issues either.
berz said:
had the phone from day no such issues.
not a single one u have pointed out.
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skoobee said:
Had mine for weeks now and not seen any of those issues either.
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Good to know
Can you tel from where u guys bought it??
Thanks
tnttrx said:
- useless MIUI spam forum could be closed and people could get their unlock code without a need to post >500 "great"/"awesome"/"cool" replies on the newest Mi 5 screenshot
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I agree, mainly, in that point. What a sh*t* forum!
Same here
I´m very disappointed too.
There are a lot of small things that bother me:
Alarm doesn't work unless you interact with the phone (even hours later)
Delayed synchronization on almost all application, (notifications coming all at once after 10 min, WIFI or 3G)
Camera focus working really bad ( tried with different applications, all of them with bad results )
Contacts or Calls stopping working from the beginning
Spotify doesn't play next song unless you open the app
Even I have problems connecting to Xiaomi Band 1s
I had a Galaxy S3 and a Nexus 4 before and these things are very annoying. I have to use another mobile to wake up in the morning....
I can't wait to install cyanogenmod.
Anyway I'll never buy a Xiaomi again, I hate MIUI and after all this I prefer to pay more and have a good experience with a nexus.
Maybe this thread should be tweeted to Hugo Barra & Xiaomi. See if there is any response.
SlyUK said:
Maybe this thread should be tweeted to Hugo Barra & Xiaomi. See if there is any response.
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you've just got:
+10 Experience
+3 Prestige
reason:
Agreed!
post your Mi charger photo to earn a medal!
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tnttrx said:
you've just got:
+10 Experience
+3 Prestige
reason:
Agreed!
post your Mi charger photo to earn a medal!
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So daaamn true )
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Maybe this thread should be tweeted to Hugo Barra & Xiaomi. See if there is any response.
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Haha, I already did. He doesn't respond.
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So daaamn true )
Haha, I already did. He doesn't respond.
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What a surprise !
I have another big problem with this phone. After I made a factory reset the phone got locked and needs to be activated. The device is associated with an existing Mi ID account that I never registered and is completely unknown to me, as is of course the password.
I've spent hours on their forum to get some answers on how to reassociate my phone to my own ID number. So far with no sucess.
DBZo07 said:
How my dream phone mi5 became a nightmare for me!!
Mi5 was my dream phone, I had created a post at miui forum...
But 10 days and mi5 became a nightmare for me!!
I had fell in love with speed and beauty of the phone, with hybrid case it look so cool. People were jealous of it. But happy time ended soon...
Don't go for looks, they deceive you...
And what do i need to say about build quality, aluminum gets dent on simple force. You have to use super hybrid case.
The mi Protect Scam
I called the Mi Assist for activation of mi protect, but it wasn't activated even after calling 5 times. When I went service center, they don't have any spares parts for the mi5 phone... Why the hell you sell mi protect when you don't even have the provisions. Funny thing was mi assist marketing department, called me to insure my other devices... I always said first activate for what I paid for... Mi protect is a scam, indeed.
Just a hype, no global stable ROM for Mi 5
Mi 5 is your flagship, how come Xiaomi team are so lethargic about global ROM. If you can't be loyal to global users then why you made fake claims and why Xiaomi released the phone for Rest of the world.
The Amount of defective Mi5 phones are too high....
My camera had defect, home button wasn't responsive to soft press, over heating,I waited with hopes for updates but i lost mind when physical defect were discovered in camera. Im freelancer which demands me to use front camera for live assistance. My assignments are international (European) so phone is the only way of getting connected anytime and anywhere. Clients started complaining about white dots on my videos and phone heated too much while live assistance. It made impossible for me to continue and which spoiled my ratings.
I immediately went mi service center, thank god engineer at service center confirmed the defect in phone. The engineer tested for water damage and physical damage. After confirming device problem, he issued fault in device memo. Which helped me to request for replacement. It was luckily 10th day, from the date of purchase... Finally, successfully request was submitted.
Bluedart guy came within an 24 hour and picked up the phone.
BIGGEST MISTAKE OF MY LIFE.
I'm without a phone and also I sold my iPhone 5s for Mi5!! You can refer my post where I mentioned about selling iPhone 5s for Mi5. Thought iPhone wasn't great but going for Mi 5 was a mistake.
Spoke to customer care of mi India but they are hopeless and clueless.
They kept me on hold for asking trivial information, which wasn't related to my problem. Just for the sake of passing time. They keep on hold and after coming back from hold they speak as if they are talking for first time. Im fedup of the harrasment. I even said to deduct shipping cost and refund me the balance amount but they are so rigit.
The service which mi india provides is a pure harrasment.
I wish mi.com had refund policy and I move away from this hell. I'm disappointed and without further loss... im sure mi phones are having high chances of being defective as only lower variants are available which are unsold stock of china.
I can't afford this to be repeated.
But let's face it, Mi won't give refund.We all have to learn something from here. And beware of the mi policies and services.
There are too many problems in Mi5. Xiaomi need to fix what it can via software updates, ASAP. Also, this is a honest review for mi 5 which will help many buyers to know the real face of mi5 and mi. Only the engineer at service center was indeed helpful, I accept that. No doubts about other products, but people need to know the honest reviews not just fanboys flaunting just cause of getting forum credits at miui forum. Cause we build expectations from it and get disappointed.
The miui forum has hardly any use, just legal spammers for credits. When its time to help, they turn deaf ears. Very few helpful mods, which are hardworking....
Hope this helps users before making decision for Mi 5and also an eye opener for Xiaomi...
XDA is great, I missed you.
After a long time I'm posting on XDA. I use to own Samsung galaxy grand and s2...
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It's okay to complain, but please do it reasonable.
Cut out all emotional crap from your topic and try again. But stick to facts and be reasonable.
Just as example, if you wonder what I am talking about.
->"The miui forum has hardly any use, just legal spammers for credits" ... 100% your opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
-> "There are too many problems in Mi5." ... 100% your opinion.
How could the same look better.
You could say: I was not able to find any useful information on en.miui.com, as most appeared to me as spam. I was not able to find what I was looking for [ state what you were looking for in here]
And instead of the very general and 100% stupid comment of too many problems.
You could have written a: I encoundered these problems [ list of problems ], a good amount of people have the same [ link to topics, stating similar problems.]
Why is this important:
I think, you made a bad experience and would like to warn people from making the same mistake, that's very kind of you!
But you achieve more if you stay to facts and leave out emotions and 100%-pure opinions.
That way you really help people, because they can make their own judgment based on facts you provided.
... what you wrote looks like a baby crying, to me at least.
@alfay0m3ga i have solution for 1st,2nd,4th, and maybe 3rd and 5th
For 1,2,4 just go in recent app and do the opposite of clearing an app, just drag down one and you will see an orange lock on left top of it
Then you will have alarms, spotify and syncronization
For the others try to unlock bootloader and change rom with xiaomi eu one
TheUltrametricSpace said:
It's okay to complain, but please do it reasonable.
Cut out all emotional crap from your topic and try again. But stick to facts and be reasonable.
Just as example, if you wonder what I am talking about.
->"The miui forum has hardly any use, just legal spammers for credits" ... 100% your opinion, nothing more, nothing less.
-> "There are too many problems in Mi5." ... 100% your opinion.
How could the same look better.
You could say: I was not able to find any useful information on en.miui.com, as most appeared to me as spam. I was not able to find what I was looking for [ state what you were looking for in here]
And instead of the very general and 100% stupid comment of too many problems.
You could have written a: I encoundered these problems [ list of problems ], a good amount of people have the same [ link to topics, stating similar problems.]
Why is this important:
I think, you made a bad experience and would like to warn people from making the same mistake, that's very kind of you!
But you achieve more if you stay to facts and leave out emotions and 100%-pure opinions.
That way you really help people, because they can make their own judgment based on facts you provided.
... what you wrote looks like a baby crying, to me at least.
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" OK Google "
Remind me to edit my OP as per suggestions.
Thanks, I'll be more specific.
sys01 said:
@alfay0m3ga i have solution for 1st,2nd,4th, and maybe 3rd and 5th
For 1,2,4 just go in recent app and do the opposite of clearing an app, just drag down one and you will see an orange lock on left top of it
Then you will have alarms, spotify and syncronization
For the others try to unlock bootloader and change rom with xiaomi eu one
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Thank you very much. You were right and it fixed some of my points.
EU rom? is it the global? I have the Global 7.2.4
@alfay0m3ga unfortunately, MIUI over android is totally different in managing app and notification
So you need to know what to do for make them working
Xiaomi.Eu rom is this one: http://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/...r-xiaomi-mi5-unlocked-bl-only-released.31231/
You need Bootloader unlocked, then just follow the instruction over the thread, if anything goes wrong just PM me
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-2-month-wait-unlock-bootloader/
The situation is getting worst after we had hard time request for EDL, and now unlock BL with 2 months wait period.
I'm kind of disappointed with this rule.
What do you think?
Last Xiaomi for me, after the policy of not allowed to lock bootloader with global rom and now 1400 hrs of waiting. Next phone for me Oneplus for sure.
Also better quality control, this phone have vertical color banding.
Very bad decision from Xiaomi, you see on every forum hundreds of bricked phones from Xiaomi because of not communicating this with their customers.
A damn shame, a company that abuse their customers like that is just incredible!
Also almost no development, the forums are just filled with people who are asking for help for their bricked phones.
Just insane!
707h for my mi 8
bassbounce said:
Last Xiaomi for me, after the policy of not allowed to lock bootloader with global rom and now 1400 hrs of waiting. Next phone for me Oneplus for sure.
Also better quality control, this phone have vertical color banding.
Very bad decision from Xiaomi, you see on every forum hundreds of bricked phones from Xiaomi because of not communicating this with their customers.
A damn shame, a company that abuse their customers like that is just incredible!
Also almost no development, the forums are just filled with people who are asking for help for their bricked phones.
Just insane!
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You're absolutely right. If I have to wait for 2 months id something goes wrong with my phone why don't save money for two months and buy a Samsung note 9?
What is Chinese mentality don't know. It is Android Open Source Platform!!! Huawei also doing sheet!!!
My first imported handset, my first Xiaomi. And I'm already totally disappointed!
Yo can reduce it a little bit if you first flash a beta ROM
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My first imported handset, my first Xiaomi. And I'm already totally disappointed!
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I've imported quite a few huawei, this will be my last import from china with all this going on.
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but does anyone have a guide to rooting the Mi 8? Don't need a custom ROM, just want root access (I assume this still enables OTA update from Xiaomi?) All the guides I can find are from random websites and months ago when the phone wasn't even available worldwide yet.
I TRIED IT TODAY TO RE-UNLOCK ( UNLOCK ONE BY SELLER ) 720hrs
Hey folks,
I have noticed that in my poco if you hover you finger too close to your screen(note that i haven't touched the screen) it will capture it as touch. This becomes annoying when you are typing or playing games. I have asked for replacement but the technical guy who came for visit is not ready to accept this issue. And I am blocked now with this faulty poco.
This is because of the extra sensitive touch i guess(like glove mode in iPhone), I have changed the pointer speed, reset the phone but nothing works. This should be resolved by calibration but don't know how.
Please let me know if anyone else is facing this issue or has the solution for same.
Thanks
sachin_2552 said:
Hey folks,
I have noticed that in my poco if you hover you finger too close to your screen(note that i haven't touched the screen) it will capture it as touch. This becomes annoying when you are typing or playing games. I have asked for replacement but the technical guy who came for visit is not ready to accept this issue. And I am blocked now with this faulty poco.
This is because of the extra sensitive touch i guess(like glove mode in iPhone), I have changed the pointer speed, reset the phone but nothing works. This should be resolved by calibration but don't know how.
Please let me know if anyone else is facing this issue or has the solution for same.
Thanks
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I have been writing about this issue since day 1, I somehow got the phone replaced. I showed them the PUBG game issue but they didn't help me, in the end I had to show them that ghost touch issue (which was a software bug and since the device was just launched very few people knew that it's actually a software glitch) so I forced them to take back the device.
I wasted hours on phone to emulate all the problems so that I could get it returned, this is a ****ty device and the company need to be sued for selling faulty products.
Is it something you might be able to get used to? Honestly, I've found this a problem on ALL touch-screen smartphones since forever lol.
Maybe it can be fixed in software in a custom kernel soon. If it bothers me that much when I get my device, I might look into it - it seems the kind of thing that could differ between devices and production runs, so the factory is forced to make a "best average guess" for all devices.
But it could also be a factory calibration thing, which has device-specific values in proprietary files or firmware....
shailendra1993 said:
I wasted hours on phone to emulate all the problems so that I could get it returned, this is a ****ty device and the company need to be sued for selling faulty products.
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Because the touch is "too-sensitive", a purely subjective thing, you think the device is faulty and they should be sued?
So dramatic. Are you new to this place called reality or something?
It's a $500 flagship device, if you came into this expecting 100% premium quality then you're a fool.
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Is it something you might be able to get used to? Honestly, I've found this a problem on ALL touch-screen smartphones since forever lol.
Maybe it can be fixed in software in a custom kernel soon. If it bothers me that much when I get my device, I might look into it - it seems the kind of thing that could differ between devices and production runs, so the factory is forced to make a "best average guess" for all devices.
But it could also be a factory calibration thing, which has device-specific values in proprietary files or firmware....
Because the touch is "too-sensitive", a purely subjective thing, you think the device is faulty and they should be sued?
So dramatic. Are you new to this place called reality or something?
It's a $500 flagship device, if you came into this expecting 100% premium quality then you're a fool.
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Ever heard about Honor 8 Pro? It was launched last year and was called the flagship killer, the issue is not present in there, why?
Ever Heard of any MiA1 or MiA2 device having this problem?
Do you have the device?
If not then try it out, it's not something you can live with.
What do you think I am asking for? I just want Xiaomi to admit that there is an issue and work on it and nothing else.
Not happening on my unit. Any specific steps to reproduce it?
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What do you think I am asking for? I just want Xiaomi to admit that there is an issue and work on it and nothing else.
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So go harass the Manager on Twitter, what can we do about it? Complaining about the device once is fair enough to raise awareness, but every thread I see seems like you are on a mission to destroy this community.
I don't see the relevance of comparing it to other devices. May as well say "Ferrari can make cars that fast, why can't my Prius?"
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Ever heard about Honor 8 Pro? It was launched last year and was called the flagship killer, the issue is not present in there, why?
Ever Heard of any MiA1 or MiA2 device having this problem?
Do you have the device?
If not then try it out, it's not something you can live with.
What do you think I am asking for? I just want Xiaomi to admit that there is an issue and work on it and nothing else.
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you should be known to the fact that many of xiaomi devices comes with bugs at first. Xiaomi fixes almost all bugs after some updates. Most of the current bug's fixes (audio, notification, battery percentage, ok google) are coming soon on next OTA. Some of them, they're investing. from my POV, Xiaomi is doing great with Poco's software side. Jai Mani himself taking care of these
you complain about camera?
- use gcam
you complain about miui?
- wait for AOSP Roms
you complain about the phone?
- get a refund
But don't just flood everywhere. Grab more cash. Get a Oneplus 6. Be happy with it. Have a nice day
CosmicDan said:
So go harass the Manager on Twitter, what can we do about it? Complaining about the device once is fair enough to raise awareness, but every thread I see seems like you are on a mission to destroy this community.
I don't see the relevance of comparing it to other devices. May as well say "Ferrari can make cars that fast, why can't my Prius?"
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Please tell me why the issue exists on phones like Redmi Note 4, redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro and now Poco but the problem is not there on MiA1, MiA2, etc. You will say that the software is different that's right, but can't the issue be of hardware kind because if they used the same displays why not the same touch hardware? and why the problem is still not solved in the Redmi Note devices?
I tweeted them all and there are some bug reports, Xiaomi did not reply to anything.
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Please tell me why the issue exists on phones like Redmi Note 4, redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro and now Poco but the problem is not there on MiA1, MiA2, etc. You will say that the software is different that's right, but can't the issue be of hardware kind because if they used the same displays why not the same touch hardware? and why the problem is still not solved in the Redmi Note devices?
I tweeted them all and there are some bug reports, Xiaomi did not reply to anything.
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isnt redmi the low ends of xiaomi ? not surprised if they used lower grade Digitizer , if you are taking about mi series or mi mix ,then something is wrong
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Please tell me why the issue exists on phones like Redmi Note 4, redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro and now Poco but the problem is not there on MiA1, MiA2, etc. You will say that the software is different that's right, but can't the issue be of hardware kind because if they used the same displays why not the same touch hardware? and why the problem is still not solved in the Redmi Note devices?
I tweeted them all and there are some bug reports, Xiaomi did not reply to anything.
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The issue does NOT exist on the Redmi Note 4, my Note 4 is perfectly fine.
The reason why devices are not updated by Xiaomi is because this is an OEM issue, OEM's will charge money to Xiaomi for fixes, and Redmi is budget crap line which Xiaomi don't want to go bankrupt over. You do know the Xiaomi fame of them having extremely small profit margins, right? If you want to have a 100% perfect digitizer on launch, go and pay twice as much for a device with identical specs.
This is a brand new device from a brand new department. We are the early adopters. Even the Google Pixel devices had major bugs when they first came out. Go get a refund if you're unhappy. And if you can't, then learn the lesson to not be an early adopter for a brand new product line.
The gain on the digitizer is too high (or the threshold is too low), it's a SOFTWARE issue. Simple as that. I don't have the device yet so I can't tell if it's in the kernel driver or the firmware, but it's 100% a software issue because literally all mobile phone digitizers are calibrated in software for the past decade. Anybody who knows anything about Linux/kernel development knows this stuff.
Enough with your non-constructive ramblings, it's not beneficial to the conversation at all. Stop being obnoxious and passive-aggressive with your patronizing questions.
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@OP, I wonder what digitizer hardware you have. Is there a service menu we know about yet? According to the kernel source and config there may be two possible digitizer panels for the Poco (just like how they often have two or three different LCD suppliers for one device).
If I notice an imperfect touch on my device when it arrives, I'm going to dig into the kernel source to see if I can find something - but if people have two different digitizer panels then that will complicate things.
Another thought:
Do you have a tempered glass protector? If not, try it. It could reduce the sensitivity. It may even be *intentional* to allow that.
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The issue does NOT exist on the Redmi Note 4, my Note 4 is perfectly fine.
The reason why devices are not updated by Xiaomi is because this is an OEM issue, OEM's will charge money to Xiaomi for fixes, and Redmi is budget crap line which Xiaomi don't want to go bankrupt over. You do know the Xiaomi fame of them having extremely small profit margins, right? If you want to have a 100% perfect digitizer on launch, go and pay twice as much for a device with identical specs.
Do you have a tempered glass protector? If not, try it. It could reduce the sensitivity. It may even be *intentional* to allow that.
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If you are saying it's a software bug, then I can believe it, I just want someone experienced to tell me if it's a s/w issue or h/w issue, the problem is getting rid of the phone is not easy, no one is buying this, Flipkart is making the issue more complex, the replacement itself took me 2 hours to explain the guy about the problems and I am not sure they will provide the return.
Also, Pixel had the issue fixed as soon as the issue was discovered and other OEM's had to fix the issue too, Google didn't charge money for that, the multitouch issue was fixed in May patch, why do you think it still exists in MIUI?
Zenfone Max Pro M1 is a ****ty device I agree but the device has the same spec as Redmi Note 5 Pro but costs a lot less and they have already fixed the issue, it's also a crappy budget phones and you know what? Zenfone is the worst company and well known for not fixing bugs, but they still did!
Talking about the go buy other crappy phones for more: Nokia 7 Plus and Honor Play are still a better deal only HPlay has a bad camera but Honor has a better support than atleast Xiaomi, their performance is not like Poco but atleast there is no lag, no framedrop, no structural issues, no touch issue or anything. I would be glad to switch only if I get my money, if not atleast someone from Xiaomi guarantee me that they issue will be fixed soon.
I see that you don't have the device till now, I will wait till you get the device and test it. Here is the bug report, see if you can reproduce it once you get your hands on it:
http://en.miui.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3746297&page=2#pid30155106
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Call me idiot or anything you want, I have kept the replacement that I got all packed up and didn't open the package, because I am trying to sell the package in case Flipkart refuses refund. I have to use an old Lenovo Vibe K4 Note instead.
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Wait for an update: I have very few days left to return the device, since Xiaomi is not telling if the bug will be fixed or not one can not say anything about it. Except for the 10 bug fix update MIUI9 is not going to get another update and all the bugs will be tested and fixed once MIUI10 is launched whose launch date is December 2018.
This is not my story, an admin said that all development work on MIUI9 (all versions) has been stopped.
People who installed MIUI10 on their Poco are not telling if the problem is fixed in the beta ROM but Redmi Note 5 Pro users are saying that the bug is still not fixed.
CosmicDan said:
The issue does NOT exist on the Redmi Note 4, my Note 4 is perfectly fine.
The gain on the digitizer is too high (or the threshold is too low), it's a SOFTWARE issue. Simple as that. I don't have the device yet so I can't tell if it's in the kernel driver or the firmware, but it's 100% a software issue because literally all mobile phone digitizers are calibrated in software for the past decade. Anybody who knows anything about Linux/kernel development knows this stuff.
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i. Many people don't seem to have this problem and the reviewers didn't report the problem with the Armoured edition, why? they have the same setup (hardware and software) right? And if the review units do have this problem then how come reviewers didn't say anything?
ii. Let's say they by mistake left a bug, that clearly means no testing was done with this device, they just launched it without checking anything. But what can you expect from a Chinese phone, right? So, why call it a flagship killer killer and why so much hype?
This is a real issue and needs to be fixed and Xiaomi should atleast show some respect by telling this to the customers and you are defending them for no reason. You have enough technical knowledge, do you really think we should have an inaccurate and slow input device just for the sake of a faster processor? because that's most stupid statement of all time. Input device should be as accurate and fast as the processor for full usage. It's like having a 1Gbit internet but a computer that can process only few MB per sec, the throughput will be a lot less and waste of money.
Hello.
Will this problem be fixed? Is it a software or hardware problem?
I will have to sell this phone if it does not fix it.
Thanks.
update:
Please, likes and leave comments there:
en.miui. com / forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3746297&page=3
We need to be noticed.
Video demonstration of the problem (playlist. 2 video):
youtube.com / watch?v=C6s2ZqwpkPY&list=PLFpEm6ANmniMdy13bBct5L-OxJrR3RLiY
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I answered your questions, I gave my opinion and shared the facts that I know, and you just ignored them and repeated yourself.
Please just stop spamming and hijacking threads with drama. You keep saying the same things over and over and it's just exhausting; nobody wants to read it anymore.
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@ Everyone with the issue,
Try the Magisk module mentioned in this thread (and read more about it there). It might solve it, might do nothing, might cause bootloop... good luck!
CosmicDan said:
I answered your questions, I gave my opinion and shared the facts that I know, and you just ignored them and repeated yourself.
Please just stop spamming and hijacking threads with drama. You keep saying the same things over and over and it's just exhausting; nobody wants to read it anymore.
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Do you have the phone?
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Do you have the phone?
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Irrelevant to the point I was making.
I told you to stay on topic and get over it. Posts reported for off-topic / spam / harassment, and congratulations for being the first person in my 9 years here to make it onto my Ignore List.
Enough of the back-and-forth here thanks guys... Keep things civil or move along.
There were something like that in a device called infinix zero 2. and it needed a screen protector to solve the issue.
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Please tell me why the issue exists on phones like Redmi Note 4, redmi Note 5, Redmi Note 5 Pro and now Poco but the problem is not there on MiA1, MiA2, etc. You will say that the software is different that's right, but can't the issue be of hardware kind because if they used the same displays why not the same touch hardware? and why the problem is still not solved in the Redmi Note devices?
I tweeted them all and there are some bug reports, Xiaomi did not reply to anything.
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I believe you're not a retard who keeps trying to get a slice of cheese on a electrified metal plate and keeps getting electricuted but still persist on taking the cheese from it. If you keep having issues with Xiaomi devices then why stay with the brand. Move on and look for other brands instead of staying and keeps whinning.
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I believe you're not a retard who keeps trying to get a slice of cheese on a electrified metal plate and keeps getting electricuted but still persist on taking the cheese from it. If you keep having issues with Xiaomi devices then why stay with the brand. Move on and look for other brands instead of staying and keeps whinning.
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Eh, just ignore it. I did try and report him but that was silly because I'm the one who look like a jerk in this thread haha but it's unfair to expect moderators to dig into the issue of him spamming across the 5+ threads.
So just ignore, and let's try and stay on topic. He will ignore everything you say an just keep repeating the lies of it being a defect on other devices as his main argument.
An executive order has been signed by Trump banning Huawei in the US...
Also Qualcomm (QCOM) may have to apply for US export licenses to continue supplying technology to Huawei.
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/15/tech/trump-executive-order-telecom-security/index.html
Why worry about Huawei when Google, facebook and the countries intelligence are already spying.
I think the problem lies with 5G, Huawei are trying the set up the infrastructure for 5G across Asia, Europe and the US amongst over areas. Which means that they'll have a back door to almost everything connected to 5G.
5G will connect to everything, even LED lights in your home which basically gives them a 3D view of every area 5G covers. Whoever has access to it will know where you are nearly all the time.
The timing makes it obvious the steps against Huawei is derivative of the US trade war with China rather than concerns over spying.
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The timing makes it obvious the steps against Huawei is derivative of the US trade war with China rather than concerns over spying.
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I wonder if it makes sense to care about that. Huawei prices are dropping and people try to sell there used phones. A good moment to buy something like that.
Am I totally wrong in thinking that Trump will probably not stop xda developers from developing updates for Huawei phones? If so I do not care about Huaweis updates or wether they include Gapps
But sadly XDA is not able to develop updates for Huawei beacause of locked bootloader etc, so what you are trying to say is......?
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But sadly XDA is not able to develop updates for Huawei beacause of locked bootloader etc, so what you are trying to say is......?
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I do not own a huawei phone (yet) and am still investigating about existing roms. Is there really no easy way to unlock bootloader for huawei devices in general? That would definitely stop me from buying huawei.
BTW: of you quote me I see your post faster
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I do not own a huawei phone (yet) and am still investigating about existing roms. Is there really no easy way to unlock bootloader for huawei devices in general? That would definitely stop me from buying huawei.
BTW: of you quote me I see your post faster
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No there is no easy way, even no way at all at the moment.
I am quite relaxed at the moment, for existing phones there will still be support, future phones could be a HUGE problem. But to be honest, A LOT switch their phones after 2 years or even before, so most people will not be touched by this ban who are currently owning this awesome phone.
I don't think Huawei spies. Even if they did, are they the only big players who do it?
US already spies on their citizens and on the world - Edward Snowden told the world and now he's not allowed back into his country. Facebook also sells your data if you remember that Cambridge Analytica drama.
Do people just forget what's happened?
Agree, i am total sure that Apple has a file with my data and i didn´t even touched an apple device in my life
that doesn´t make spying good, but i also think huawei is not doing more/less than the rest
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No there is no easy way, even no way at all at the moment.
I am quite relaxed at the moment, for existing phones there will still be support, future phones could be a HUGE problem. But to be honest, A LOT switch their phones after 2 years or even before, so most people will not be touched by this ban who are currently owning this awesome phone.
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this is not my attitude towards phones. Mine is rather: use the device until warranty is over (or a bit earlier) then root and install a custom rom and use the phone until it is really dead. Unfortunately it seems like that did not take too long on my Asus Zenfone selfie ...
I also use phones quite long, but really a lot people get a new one every year or every two years by contract. The same people which are now selling their phones because of panic^^
if you plan on using custom rom/modification huawei is not suitable for you, it is just not possible. maybe the android ban will change something, but nobody can say that, you will have to wait to see what will happen.
Since no one else has said it on this thread let me be the first, Trump is an idiot, when he's gone the whole world will be better for it. He can't even honor D-day survivors without making it all about him, the ultimate draft dodger.
https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/
Reading the latest news, I can't decide whether laughing or crying....
It's concerning for us who just upgraded to the P30 Pro. I'm wondering if it's a bill pay upgrade would I be able to change my mind and go to the S10 plus now.
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It's concerning for us who just upgraded to the P30 Pro. I'm wondering if it's a bill pay upgrade would I be able to change my mind and go to the S10 plus now.
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The world isn't work like this. Nobody enforced you to buy any Huawei devices.
If you want to make a complaint, then write to Google or to Donald Trump.
Have we sell the p30 pro?
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The world isn't work like this. Nobody enforced you to buy any Huawei devices.
If you want to make a complaint, then write to Google or to Donald Trump.
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The world does work like this ,it's consumer protection. Nobody forces you to buy a contract / bill item but by law you have cooling off periods and protection when the item isn't as described. We could argue that the item is no longer as described due to losing access to official Android updates and applications
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Worst thing is, if we opt to sell, no one will buy it due to these restrictions. I shave 3 years on this contract... Talk about D's
Huawei unlocks its devices, we install play store services and carry on
So what…. Trump is working on the next big Economic Crisis for the US... Huawei will found a Solution and have his own Appstore
Greetings Raffi
I am concerned about the updates
Finally my p30 pro feels so snappy with 153 that made me excited about Android q and Updates then this comes along
And is it going to effect the other Chinese manufacturers like OnePlus oppo xiaomi or not, these are the only ones left to provide us with the latest best tech without the redeculas 1000$+ that's becoming normal even for LG
Stupid
I am worried about this too, it also makes me think that if this news changes soon something like this could happen in the future because of the issues regarding huawei and America and also the UK where i am stopping Huawei from creating the 5G networks.
I happened to request a return for my P30 Pro within the 14 days period, i got sent the bag to send it back in, and says i have 30 days from when i made that request, i am within them 30 days still, so not i am really wondering if i should just send this phone back and get an S10?
Apparently this happened to ZTE before however they were reinstated again and approved. So time will tells
I think I have made my mind up, I have always been with Samsung, i was really loving OneUI on my s8+ before i got the p30 pro, i only got it as i thought i'd give it a go assuming it can't be that different, i have posted many bugs and annoyances here since getting the p30 pro, some of which i have fixed, some i can't, the EMUI software is really bad and doesn't seem well developed at all.
I think i will get an s10+
I don't care. I believe that Huawei most likely have the capacity to do their own firmware now. They'll do their own firmware and run their own app store. They're big enough now that they'll be able to make it work. Will be nice to have an alternative third ecosystem in the phone world.
I guess it's good bye now to any future security patches. Don't think Huawei's own OS would a viable alternative either. It's new and it will definitely have a lot of issues with third party apps compatibility for example, syncing to wear os devices.
Anyways, it was stated that current phones are not effected by this so i guess the main issue for us now would be upcoming security patches and firmware update.
Reckon the best option would be to sell it off.
Don worry guys...
https://www.businessinsider.in/Chin...d-Microsoft-products/articleshow/68433984.cms
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Don worry guys...
https://www.businessinsider.in/Chin...d-Microsoft-products/articleshow/68433984.cms
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It will be like giving your phone admin access to china
Isn't android open source? The AOSP code for any future android OS will always be available. Huawei can always use androids open code into their devices for future security patches.
Google and 5 eyes are already spying on you. How come you don't care about that?
Huwaei phone will not recieve any android specifc code from Google , no more secutity updates , no more Google Play, no more APIs ,,,
Everthing is just blocked by US /Google now ,,
Huwaei journey in androd ends here as they will only have Aosp access which is plain deadland now days as most of the apis have migrated to Google play services
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https://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-loses-access-to-google-android-987873/
Reading the latest news, I can't decide whether laughing or crying....
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I was all set to buy the p30pr0 but now...