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I've been rooting since my OG Droid days back in 2010 but this will be my first foray into the LG world. I've read ChazzMatt's & TxanMoe's guides several times (much thanks to you guys!) but I'm still a bit confused on what the advantages of flashing a US998 to VS996 is.
My eBay 9/10 "Like New" US998 V30+ arrives tomorrow and I've already downloaded the drivers, LGUP, and the files in ChazzMatt's guide.
I don't want any of the Verizon apps on my phone. Is there any advantage to flashing VS996 and then uninstalling/freezing all the Verizon apps? Does VS996 provide anything other than the Verizon apps that come on the Verizon V30?
Thank you in advance for helping an LG newb.
Narsil007 said:
I've been rooting since my OG Droid days back in 2010 but this will be my first foray into the LG world. I've read ChazzMatt's & TxanMoe's guides several times (much thanks to you guys!) but I'm still a bit confused on what the advantages of flashing a US998 to VS996 is.
My eBay 9/10 "Like New" US998 V30+ arrives tomorrow and I've already downloaded the drivers, LGUP, and the files in ChazzMatt's guide.
I don't want any of the Verizon apps on my phone. Is there any advantage to flashing VS996 and then uninstalling/freezing all the Verizon apps? Does VS996 provide anything other than the Verizon apps that come on the Verizon V30?
Thank you in advance for helping an LG newb.
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I'm not a Verizon customer, but stuff like Verizon voice mail, WiFi calling are what are commonly mentioned. There may be ways of getting that without flashing the VS996 ROM, I don't know.
Verizon users can chime in.
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
Pretty much everything ChazzMatt said. There are some guides to getting WiFi calling working for Verizon, but I never got any of them to work for me (and not for lack of trying, I did every suggestion). Once you flash VS996 you'll be able to use the WiFi calling and get your visual voicemail. And because you have root, its not too bad to just totally uninstall all the Verizon bloatware apps. Given that I was running a stock US998 ROM anyway, there was not reason not to switch to VS996. After uninstalling Verizon apps with root, its the same as stock except WiFi calling and visual voicemail work.
Hope that helps.
Thank you very much for the info!
I guess I'll flash the VS996 and start uninstalling.
Playing around with my LG V30 for a couple weeks now with the stock Verizon ROM and its really not bad at all. It does not feel constipated with bloat and runs fast and snappy. I disabled quite a few apps thru settings and installed the apps I wanted without issue complete stock. Battery life really kicks arse. I prefer the Verizon VM and visual VM so I will keep it stock for a while or until it does something I cant live without then void the warranty.
MaxusValtron said:
Pretty much everything ChazzMatt said. There are some guides to getting WiFi calling working for Verizon, but I never got any of them to work for me (and not for lack of trying, I did every suggestion). Once you flash VS996 you'll be able to use the WiFi calling and get your visual voicemail. And because you have root, its not too bad to just totally uninstall all the Verizon bloatware apps. Given that I was running a stock US998 ROM anyway, there was not reason not to switch to VS996. After uninstalling Verizon apps with root, its the same as stock except WiFi calling and visual voicemail work.
Hope that helps.
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That also includes Advance Calling too? I'm editing my WTF guide to recommend flashing the @westwood24 TWRP flashable file after bootloader unlock and root. People can experiment with custom ROMs when they have time, the purpose of my Guide is to get them up and running after bootloader unlock and root.
There are two additional potential considerations before flashing from stock open market us998 firmware to vs996. One is the potential loss of tethering/hotspot function. Verizon used to wrap a dongle around tethering functions to shake some extra change out of its subscriber's pockets. A need for native tether function was an important reason to switch to a non-stock rom.
The second is general weirdness or plain lack of service with Verizon phones on stock firmware when traveling internationally. Verizon says their phones work overseas, but my personal experience with a quark xt1254 and Turbo2 is that they do not. Even when fully paid there seems to be a hidden carrier/sim lock. Like tethering, flashing a non-stock rom gave service to the xt1254 in Europe and Asia.
Any Verizon users out there who can report on behavior specific to vs996 firware to help others in making an informed decision about its use?
Thanks in advance for comments.
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That also includes Advance Calling too? I'm editing my WTF guide to recommend flashing the @westwood24 TWRP flashable file after bootloader unlock and root. People can experiment with custom ROMs when they have time, the purpose of my Guide is to get them up and running after bootloader unlock and root.
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I would also be interested in knowing if anyone traveled overseas with a VS996 and how it worked with other carriers' SIM cards.
I have a VS996 that I Frankensteined and WTf'd. I flashed it back to stock VS996 from US998 (still rooted) afterward.
I've been rooting and flashing my android phones for about 10 years now, so this isn't new to me. But this phone is confusing as hell to me.
My question is: Are there any custom roms I can flash over VS996?
[ROM][Joan][UNOFFICIAL]ResurrectionRemix v6.1.0[8.1.0] says it works, but in some of the posts, people say they are running on a VS996 that was Frankensteined. Does that mean they have a VS996 but are now running US998 and the rom? Or they flashed to US998 and then back to VS996 and are now running the rom?
Or do I have to reflash US998 and go from there? Do I have to Re-Frankenstein?
Thanks.
pearlheartgtr said:
I have a VS996 that I Frankensteined and WTf'd. I flashed it back to stock VS996 from US998 (still rooted) afterward.
I've been rooting and flashing my android phones for about 10 years now, so this isn't new to me. But this phone is confusing as hell to me.
My question is: Are there any custom roms I can flash over VS996?
[ROM][Joan][UNOFFICIAL]ResurrectionRemix v6.1.0[8.1.0] says it works, but in some of the posts, people say they are running on a VS996 that was Frankensteined. Does that mean they have a VS996 but are now running US998 and the rom? Or they flashed to US998 and then back to VS996 and are now running the rom?
Or do I have to reflash US998 and go from there? Do I have to Re-Frankenstein?
Thanks.
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All current era (last six months at least) "H930" AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs work with all V30/V30+/V30S variants -- except for T-Mobile H932. This includes VS996.
Think of "H930" label for AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs as meaning it's not for "H932", but includes ALL others. Conversely, do NOT flash anything labelled for "H932" on ANY other V30.
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All current era (last six months at least) "H930" AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs work with all V30/V30+/V30S variants -- except for T-Mobile H932. This includes VS996.
Think of "H930" label for AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs as meaning it's not for "H932", but includes ALL others. Conversely, do NOT flash anything labelled for "H932" on ANY other V30.
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Thank you. That's exactly what I needed to know.
Related question I think, what is the advantage of 996 if I'm on Verizon network? Just bloatware?
qwas7899 said:
Related question I think, what is the advantage of 996 if I'm on Verizon network? Just bloatware?
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Verizon users can answer that better. Sometimes stuff like texting, VoLTE, Wi-Fi calling can work better on carrier firmware. However I do not know if that's the case with Verizon. I think most Verizon users on US998 have workaround for all that, but I can't be certain
Sent via open market LG US998 V30/V30+
I've heard that you can't run Verizon's VOLTE on non-VS996 firmwares. Most custom ROMs also dont' support VZ-VOLTE because of this. I believe there's a thread with a reward for someone who figures it out, but bottom line is that it doesn't work today. For this reason, I have stayed with VS996. Honestly, it gives you everything you need... and you can easily freeze/disable whatever you don't want. NOTE, you do need the Verizon app to be installed and active for VOLTE to work, from what I've seen... but the rest can be frozen. Incidentally, it's better to freeze/disable than uninstall., because you can always restore it later if needed... too many people try to uninstall and then ask for the APK later to try to fix it...
I'm a Verizon user with a vs996. I have tried the different AOSP roms, and while they do ok, I have always had something not work exactly as it should, i.e., the texting, phone problems, or the quad dac, (depending on the rom) or some other just mostly little (not major) issues.
Last week, I finally tried the vs996 twrp rom, instead of the us998, that I normally run. After about a week, I decided that I did not like it quite as well as the us998 rom and so, yesterday I went back to us998. The vs996 didn't seem to work as smoothly as it should (I don't use some of the stuff people on here want that only Verizon has - - ie, wifi calling). At times I had to do double tap on things, just minor stuff. The other thing is, in order to use the Hotspot, you have to go thru Verizon, but, with the us998, I can use the included hot spot, if need be and not worry about Verizon.
So, I am very happy with the us998 rom. I would like to do more customization, but not a big deal if I don't. It runs the smoothest, for me, of all the roms I have tried.
schwinn8 said:
I've heard that you can't run Verizon's VOLTE on non-VS996 firmwares. Most custom ROMs also dont' support VZ-VOLTE because of this. I believe there's a thread with a reward for someone who figures it out, but bottom line is that it doesn't work today. For this reason, I have stayed with VS996. Honestly, it gives you everything you need... and you can easily freeze/disable whatever you don't want. NOTE, you do need the Verizon app to be installed and active for VOLTE to work, from what I've seen... but the rest can be frozen. Incidentally, it's better to freeze/disable than uninstall., because you can always restore it later if needed... too many people try to uninstall and then ask for the APK later to try to fix it...
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gimpy1 said:
I'm a Verizon user with a vs996. I have tried the different AOSP roms, and while they do ok, I have always had something not work exactly as it should, i.e., the texting, phone problems, or the quad dac, (depending on the rom) or some other just mostly little (not major) issues.
Last week, I finally tried the vs996 twrp rom, instead of the us998, that I normally run. After about a week, I decided that I did not like it quite as well as the us998 rom and so, yesterday I went back to us998. The vs996 didn't seem to work as smoothly as it should (I don't use some of the stuff people on here want that only Verizon has - - ie, wifi calling). At times I had to do double tap on things, just minor stuff. The other thing is, in order to use the Hotspot, you have to go thru Verizon, but, with the us998, I can use the included hot spot, if need be and not worry about Verizon.
So, I am very happy with the us998 rom. I would like to do more customization, but not a big deal if I don't. It runs the smoothest, for me, of all the roms I have tried.
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I'm on Page Plus (Verizon service) and Volte doesn't really concern me. But I understand with roms not working correctly. I've flashed my fair share on my Motorolas. For the time being, I think I'm going to stick with stock since I'm still getting used to this phone. I just wish the recovery had rom slots like my old Droid Razr had so I could test out different roms without screwing things up, lol.
I do love this phone. Such a nice upgrade from the Droid Turbo. It was also nice to unlock it FOR FREE unlike the Turbo.
I did notice something with Titanium Backup (I used to use it on my Samsun Intercept and Razr). When I froze or uninstalled certain apps, they still remained in the App list in Settings as enabled or still installed. It caused havok when they'd try to run on their own (some Google apps). I had to unfreeze them and disable in Settings. Strange. All of the other bloatware still shows as installed, too.
pearlheartgtr said:
Such a nice upgrade from the Droid Turbo. It was also nice to unlock it FOR FREE unlike the Turbo.
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I had the International version of the Moto Quark (sold under various names around the world: Droid Turbo/Moto Turbo/Moto Maxx) and yes the V30 is the phone I chose to upgrade from after 3 years. The V30/V30+ is the successor in spirit to that phone. It's the phone Motorola should have made if they had not lost their way with stupid mods.
For the record, I'm on Total Wireless (Verizon MVNO)... that's why I prefer to have VS996 for the wifi/volte calling.
I don't notice any lagging or slowdowns. I have disabled some of the VZ bloatware, so maybe that's what helped it. I was on US998 originally, but when I couldn't get wifi/volte working I knew I had to stick to this.
Keep in mind, I believe VZ will be going all volte in the near future? At which point, you may be forced to run a volte-capable ROM. Certainly nothing to worry about right now, but I thought that was happening in 2020 or something, so I figured I'd be ready from the start.
schwinn8 said:
For the record, I'm on Total Wireless (Verizon MVNO)... that's why I prefer to have VS996 for the wifi/volte calling.
I don't notice any lagging or slowdowns. I have disabled some of the VZ bloatware, so maybe that's what helped it. I was on US998 originally, but when I couldn't get wifi/volte working I knew I had to stick to this.
Keep in mind, I believe VZ will be going all volte in the near future? At which point, you may be forced to run a volte-capable ROM. Certainly nothing to worry about right now, but I thought that was happening in 2020 or something, so I figured I'd be ready from the start.
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Verizon says LTE and VoLTE only after December 31, 2019.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/support/knowledge-base-218813/
There you go. So, it's better to be prepared, and tweak now rather than having to do it last minute... at least that's what I'm doing...
quick question:
I bought a frankestensteined US998 that was a LS998. It was bought running android 7.0, i updated it using LGUP to US99820e Android 8.0 Sept 2018 Security.
I have not rooted (checked it and it not rooted)
Bootloader, i didn't unlock it
I have dont nothing to the phone other than just update it from Android 7 to Android 8
I am running stock US998 and woud like to flash vs996 as i'm on total wireless (i have read about that and know how to do it, easy upgrade)
Can I return to US998 from vs996 just as easy, in case I want To go back to us998 what would i have to do?
thanks
jaygo444 said:
quick question:
I bought a frankestensteined US998 that was a LS998. It was bought running android 7.0, i updated it using LGUP to US99820e Android 8.0 Sept 2018 Security.
I have not rooted (checked it and it not rooted)
Bootloader, i didn't unlock it
I have dont nothing to the phone other than just update it from Android 7 to Android 8
I am running stock US998 and woud like to flash vs996 as i'm on total wireless (i have read about that and know how to do it, easy upgrade)
Can I return to US998 from vs996 just as easy, in case I want To go back to us998 what would i have to do?
thanks
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Yes. You can flash VS996 KDZ via Frankenstein instructions. You can return to US998 also via Frankenstein instructions.
I had a question for all the rooted/unlocked VS996 users. Im currently running US998 because of the tethering function. I'd rather be on VS996 for the Volte features and just debloat. Has anyone figured out how to get around/disable the tether check Verizon has on this rom? Is there an easy way to get the tethering to work? I even tried the magisk tether module with no luck. Thanks for any suggestions!
I am replacing my old slow buggy galaxy s5 by a used LG V30. Which variant is most supported by community (custom roms) and officially (LG stock roms):
vs996 vs us998 vs v300 ?
yeahman45 said:
I am replacing my old slow buggy galaxy s5 by a used LG V30. Which variant is most supported by community (custom roms) and officially (LG stock roms):
vs996 vs us998 vs v300 ?
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All are supported. All custom ROMs can run on all V30 variants. Read the Root Sticky.
What bands do you need? What carrier do you use? That's a more important criteria. For instance H930DS doesn't have important LTE bands needed for North America and vice versa.
All North American variants -- EXCEPT T-mobile H932 -- can be converted to any other variant (firmware, bands, everything). So, if you buy Sprint LS998 V30+ you can convert it to US998 V30+. For bootloader unlock and root, you need fastboot flash commands, therefore models like the LS998 or VS996 have to be (at least temporarily) converted to US998 for the bootloader unlock and TWRP stage. But after that, Verizon users can go back to VS996 firmware via TWRP-flashable zips. Same with LS998, if you are a Sprint customer. But many people (non-Sprint customers) convert to US998 firmware and stay there -- as it's the official carrier unlocked model and has the least bloatware. People often buy the Sprint LS998 V30+ then convert to US998 V30+, as sometimes it's less expensive than US998 V30+ (many of which on eBay are actually former LS998 V30+, already converted by dealers).
If you need East European languages, then you should get the EU H930 V30 or maybe European H930G (V30+).
While all variants are supported, what NOT to get to save time and trouble?
* The Korean variants (i.e. 300) are a step harder to root -- so if you don't NEED Korean variant then don't get that.
* Likewise with T-Mobile H932. The root method is quite different from the others. If you're not actually a T-Mobile customer, no need to go through that.
* AT&T H931 and Canada H933 take much more prep work to run Lineage-based ROMs. Both have to be temporarily converted to US998 anyway for bootloader unlock, but then there's much more tedious steps to boot Lineage ROMs. If you intend to run Lineage base custom ROMs, then don't buy one of those.
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I run rooted stock firmware myself on US998 V30+ (I've had native US998 and also converted LS998 to US998) -- with most recent LG firmware via TWRP-flashable zips. I use Magisk mods like Anxious V30 to give more features and tweaks.
thanks man! I think I will go with the US998... seems the most "friendly" variant
yeahman45 said:
thanks man! I think I will go with the US998... seems the most "friendly" variant
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Go for the US998 V30+, 128GB if you can. Here in the U.S. you can get mint V30+ for $150-160.
LG V30 US998- 128GB - Titan Black (Factory Unlocked) Smartphone 9/10
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-128GB-Titan-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10/183795406681
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US9...Factory-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10/173665613177
Both same seller which I have used several times. Don't know why the difference in price for same phone, same condition. Your choice.
Be sure to get a good case like this:
Spigen® LG V30 [Rugged Armor] Shockproof Case Slim TPU Cover
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Spigen-LG-V30-Rugged-Armor-Shockproof-Case-Slim-TPU-Cover/253142676754
These phones are like slippery fish with glass backs.
That case is actually slim but very good.
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LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo (with root to enable LG libs)
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch
US998
CDMA: 800 MHz CDMA
2G GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G UMTS (HSPA):850/900/1900/2100 MHz
4G LTE Bands: 1/2/3/4/5/7/12(17)/13/20/25/66
thx man! unfortunately I am not from the US... so my option is only aliexpress (or ebay but very expensive with shipping) and the used Lg V30 (non plus versions) sell at about $160 - 170
side question: how are custom roms on LG V30?
are they reliable for daily use?
how is camera(gcam) on custom rom compared to stock?
which variant got updates the most rapidly?
yeahman45 said:
which variant got updates the most rapidly?
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Rapidly? HA!
Korean variants get most updates first but unless you have Korean carrier not sure you want that.
All eventually get updates. Stock Pie is taking long time to roll out. A few have it, others are coming.
At yeahman45....
. Don't count on the Anxious V30 Mod... It took the ball and went home conveniently on 9-11. Unless someone reups or posts a link to the latest I think was version 328?
kgirlx said:
At yeahman45....
. Don't count on the Anxious V30 Mod... It took the ball and went home conveniently on 9-11. Unless someone reups or posts a link to the latest I think was version 328?
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For people that have it, the publicly released 328 and prior all still work until Pie. Verizon Pie KDZ still hasn't been released yet... Been a week since VS996 PIE OTA 30B hit, so a little puzzled there why KDZ not released yet... Point is, even she isn't Pie yet.
Her mod, it's up to her -- but she has briefly discussed ways to share it again in some way where people can't bug her, criticize the app. Simply take it or leave it.
I have no idea what you guys talking about lol ... btw I ordered a LG V30 US998 128gb
yeahman45 said:
I have no idea what you guys talking about lol ... btw I ordered a LG V30 US998 128gb
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Good.
We were talking about an "omnibus" magisk module for rooted stock firmware called Anxious V30. For those that don't run AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs, you can still modify your phone for how you want. This was a post of mine in a thread about month ago, to set the context:
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Don't like the look?
Install Nova launcher with cube rotation, your choice of icon packs, your own wallpaper.
Want some mods?
* Install Anxious V30 Magisk mod. (Still for Oreo right now. The dev may develop for Pie when it's ever released for her North American carrier. I'm still on stock, rooted Oreo so that's perfectly fine.)
Enables:
All Lockscreen Weather Animations, Anxious Kernel Script, Custom/V50 App Profiles, DTS:X 3D Surround, Dual Speaker for North American Variants, Falsified Advanced DAC Mode (a.k.a. Forced HIM, but well done), G7/V40/V50 Camera Features (Updated Camera App, Updated Gallery App, Google Lens, Super Bright Mode, Updated AI & Filter Data), Google Phone (stable), Google Sans, JoyPixels 5.0, LG Equalizer Settings (w/ Custom EQ), Pixel Roboto & Various Other Fonts, Pixel WiFi Mod, Razer Phone 2 Nova Launcher, US GPS Config, YouTube Vanced (Black);
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* install EdXposed (passes Safety Net) and then install Gravity Box. Other EdXposed mods available.
* Turn on native call recording
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/volume-button-answer-mod-call-ui-oreo-t3951967
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/enable-native-call-recording-lg-v30-t3869260
Think there's some bloatware you don't need?
Install Titanium Backup, and freeze whatever you don't like. (US998 has almost no bloatware to begin with. I froze Twitter and maybe one other app.)
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Anyway Anxious V30 Magisk module was @TotallyAnxious personal mod she was sharing with the world, created to run on HER personal phone (Verizon VS996, but also worked on all North American V30 and maybe others). Take it or leave it. You either want it or you don't.
While it also ran on all North American phones (especially US998), if people with other variants (H930, H930G, H930D, H930DS) wanted to install it they could -- but don't complain if it doesn't work.
But almost immediately people starting posting comments like, "Can you add this?" "Can you take out that?" "I like everything except X" (x would change on the person.)
We kept reiterating: this her personal module she was sharing with the world, created to run on HER personal phone (Verizon VS996). Take it or leave it. You either want it or you don't.
Still, stuff like "I tried modifying your zip to remove stuff I didn't want. It didn't install correctly. Thought you would like to know."
Why would she like to know how you messed up her mod?
"The latest version doesn't work on H930DS, while previous version did. Why?"
Uh, H930DS is not officially supported as the person had been told many times. Go back to previous version that DOES work or uninstall. But don't post stuff like that in the thread.
"Got bad battery life on most recent version."
Who cares? HER PHONE has no battery issues it she wouldn't have released it. This is her personal module she was sharing with the world, created to run on HER personal phone (Verizon VS996). Take it or leave it. You either want it or you don't. Go back to previous version which worked better for you or uninstall it altogether. She tested every released version thoroughly on her phone, and it works great on HER phone. Their were versions she skipped releasing because they didn't pass her tests.
When she wouldn't answer, people would get mad and start rampaging. We had to get mods involved several times to clean the thread.
People just refused to understand it was NOT a development thread. It was a RELEASE thread: This is her personal module she was sharing with the world, created to run on HER personal phone (Verizon VS996). Take it or leave it. You either want it or you don't.
So, finally she pulled the mod from XDA, right after posting v328. Because it was just too much hassle from people who didn't understand the purpose of the thread... So, now it's on her phone, which is what it was meant for. (I may or may not have an even newer version.) Because she's STILL making it. She's just no longer sharing it with the world.
yeahman45 said:
I have no idea what you guys talking about lol ... btw I ordered a LG V30 US998 128gb
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Great phone, good choice. Congrats!
The whole Anxious discussion is not important to your use of the phone. You can just ignore it. I never used that module. Any mods you want to perform can be done individually, or you can install one of many custom ROMs.
Enjoy your new phone!
I got my v30 US998 ... it updated to oreo only ... not an issue for me.. will try it a bit.
I need to migrate my stuff from my galay s5 (running viperos pie) to my lg v30; what can I use to migrate all my apps with all my data...
Tried google backup but it can't seem to find my latest backup (and I think it can't restore everything like whatsapp).
Tried lg mobile switch but not working.
if there is no such app, I need to use titanium backup and hence root.
Is there a good tutorial to root?
yeahman45 said:
if there is no such app, I need to use titanium backup and hence root.
Is there a good tutorial to root?
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Go read this sticky. Read both post #1 and post #2:
ROOT Your LG V30!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-v30-t3927154
hmm It's been a months since I use US998 on oreo 20h but I have noticed that it had trouble multitasking. All the apps will refresh and lose whatever progress I am doing when I switch window. However, this is not present in T-mobile H932 running on stock OREO 20s. @ChazzMatt Do you have an insight about this? I did everything you told me to months ago when installing US998 20h, I made sure to flash the previous versions before flashing 20h to avoid issues.
I'm on US998 20h and I am NOT seeing this. And I switch a lot back and forth between apps with texts open. For example, between Keep, XDA, Gmail, Timesheet (time tracking app) etc.
If you're in Battery Saver mode, Android is quicker to flush an app after the phone goes to sleep. But I use Battery Saver mode a lot, and even then I only experience it on things like UAPP (if I pause music playback and come back 15 mins later). And I could avoid it if by Excluding that app from Battery Saving, but of course it will use more battery then.
But it sounds like what you're seeing is more basic. Like something is hogging all the memory so that Android has to flush whenever you switch between apps.
Restart the phone if you haven't already (you probably have). If that doesn't fix it, you may have to do a Factory Reset (or TWRP wipe if you're rooted).
Maybe Chazz has other/better ideas.
welp, I have already done a lot from completely removing battery saving entirely. I restarted and went to recovery to clear dalvik and cache. still nothing. It could be US Cellular giving US998 aids to my US998 . Remember how old US998 users like you and @ChazzMatt is not having any trouble with US998 because you got your devices way back before US Cellular got hold of US998 . But someone like me who go it recently, had this app from Digital Turbine that install all kinds of crap in my phone is happening.
meanwhile, I am trying the T-mobile H932 20s port for US998. Because 20s works perfect on T-mobile H932. I really need a stable phone right now.
Actually I got my US998 just a few months ago, and it was on Pie when I got it. I rolled it back to Oreo after about a month. It has been clean flashed numerous times, both on Nougat and Oreo, and both as US998, H931 and H933.
I had an H932 for 2+ years before that, which I also kept on 20s.
But I never had the problem you describe on either phone or either ROM.
@TheDannemand
I finally figured out the problem days later. Because even after flasing the T-mobile port rom for US998, it still displayed it.
You suggesting that the memory is getting hogged really helped me diagnosed the problem. So I uninstalled some apps, and the culprit was Energized ad blocker from Magisk. I did remember that it warns you that if you used their ultimate pack, it might impact your performance. So yeah this is what causing issues for me on US998 stock rom and to now the T-mobile stock rom port for US998.
but.... oddly. I did not have this problem in my T-mobile H932 on 20s stock rom with Energized using ultimate pack. hmm does this mean that H932 is actually superior in performance than US998?
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@TheDannemand
I finally figured out the problem days later. Because even after flasing the T-mobile port rom for US998, it still displayed it.
You suggesting that the memory is getting hogged really helped me diagnosed the problem. So I uninstalled some apps, and the culprit was Energized ad blocker from Magisk. I did remember that it warns you that if you used their ultimate pack, it might impact your performance. So yeah this is what causing issues for me on US998 stock rom and to now the T-mobile stock rom port for US998.
but.... oddly. I did not have this problem in my T-mobile H932 on 20s stock rom with Energized using ultimate pack. hmm does this mean that H932 is actually superior in performance than US998?
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Glad you finally figured it out. I use AdGuard on mine and my wife's phone and free Blokada on my mother's.
The dev who rooted the T-Mobile H932 is of the opinion the US998 is better.
noddledizzy said:
@TheDannemand
I finally figured out the problem days later. Because even after flasing the T-mobile port rom for US998, it still displayed it.
You suggesting that the memory is getting hogged really helped me diagnosed the problem. So I uninstalled some apps, and the culprit was Energized ad blocker from Magisk. I did remember that it warns you that if you used their ultimate pack, it might impact your performance. So yeah this is what causing issues for me on US998 stock rom and to now the T-mobile stock rom port for US998.
but.... oddly. I did not have this problem in my T-mobile H932 on 20s stock rom with Energized using ultimate pack. hmm does this mean that H932 is actually superior in performance than US998?
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Yes, good detective work there. Glad you found the culprit.
I use Blokada with the Energized Blu list. Works well for me.
Generally speaking, US998 is a better device because it's not as locked down as H932. In the beginning, we thought H932 would be the most likely carrier model to get root because of its readily unlockable bootloader. But of course it turned out the opposite, thanks to WTF. H932 is easier bricked too. And don't even get me started with TMO's fascist SIM unlocking
But when it comes to performance of the ROM itself, I can't say I noticed a difference once the bloat and tracking services are trimmed from each model. H932 has one more tracker than the others, while US998 has that nasty Mobile Services Manager, but both can be easily removed.
While I haven't compared the two side by side, I honestly don't think there is much difference in the core OS or how they are tuned. I could be wrong, of course.
Hey all,
I'm not sure if this is a question, but I'm wondering everyone's thoughts on this.
On the latest Oreo modem 20H, my MVNO carrier does not work. I'm using Speedtalk for now because I got it for a steal. There's also wicked battery drain on the 20H modem.
On modem 20B, Speedtalk works just fine. No excessive battery drain at all.
But I still have the fingerprint sensor issue that it seems very few of us have. Any ideas on things I should try?
I'm wondering if those of us that have the fingerprint sensor issue also used the wtf method with their phones early in the process - I was simply on 20B before going to custom rom, and updated to 10 by installing the pie rom and then going to 10 (like the guide). I'm on LS998 converted to US998