There is no thread for this phone. There is only an announcement article that I can find about this device on the entire website.
I just got it today at Cricket...
Anyone know if it can be rooted?
When I check my device from inside the XDA Labs app, it tells me that I have a Nokia 6.2 but that isn't possible as this phone does not have a snapdragon processor.
I have tried to find out if any other phones have the same processor that are rooted but I've never heard of any of the phones I found... Most are in India or Asia. All that means is that I am unfamiliar with the devices I'm seeing.
I expect more people will be getting this phone. But it may take a minute as the cricket store had just opened the box with these phones when I bought it today. I had to wait for them to enter it into their system...
Surprised no one else has got this device yet.
However if anyone is interested in this phone I have had it a few days. I can give a little run down.
So I recently moved from Eugene Oregon back to where I grew up just north of Birmingham Alabama.
I have ALWAYS used TMobile. However TMobile doesn't cover where I live...so I was forced to go with Cricket because it's the only coverage we can get at home. We refuse to use AT&T directly so I can deal with their "child" so to speak...
Anyway, we just started our service. At first I bought a Moto G7 Supra (Crickets version of the G7 Power.) However they didn't have a case. That day I ordered an Auburn case from SkinIt for the G7 Power. They use the same case. That case has yet to even be shipped. That's a whole other story. Anyway, my G7 Supra slid off my pants in the car and hit the hard plastic part of the interior. That cracked the bottom left of the screen. Cricket has a difficult insurance program, so I decided rather than deal with that and spend $75 on a replacement refurbished phone, I would spend the $150 to get a new phone. The problem was cricket no longer had any of the G7s nor did any of their other stores around me. So they said I should consider the Nokia C5 Endi. The rep told me it has similar specs to the G7 and it was brand spanking new. He said the phones had not even been entered into their system yet.
So I played around with the C5 Endi. Everything seemed to open as quickly as on the G7 and it was considerably bigger. But I had learned my lesson I wouldn't leave without a case and a screen protector. They had both so I bought the Endi. I do wish I had waited for them to special order me a G7.
The processor on this C5 Endi is NO WHERE as good as that on the G7. I compare it more to the processor of my son's old LG Stylo 3.
The battery is great. It's not AS GOOD as that of the G7 but it still has great battery life. One other downfall besides having a smaller battery, is that the processor does not allow for fastcharge.
The back camera is pretty good.
I haven't used the front camera yet.
The Endi does come with Android 10. It has 64 gb of internal memory. It has expandable memory, but limits the expandable memory to 128gb. It also has 3gb of RAM
3gb of RAM seems like it should be plenty powerful enough, but it's not near as snappy as it should be. Sometimes it will just freeze when swapping between apps... ESPECIALLY when leaving the camera.
I've been looking into the c5 endi as well.
According to what I've found it has a mediatek mt6762v helio p22 processor, there seem to be a handful of devices with it from all over the world even some here in the US.
From my recent uses of it I have found that the 3gb of ram is just barely enough to be a daily driver in 2020. I'm trying to find ways to get a swap file to help with it though.
Also looking for root options because the little things like the quick options that pop up in the settings menu three seconds after opening is infuriating ?
Guess I should just give up on any action with this phone
Any further info on this phone? im trying to root and im having trouble finding any information on it. i used adb to reboot into fastboot mode and got distracted. returning to it im wondering if its even rootable i never really checked just assumed. i didnt realize how new the phone was. i have the worst luck with my choice and phones. i almost went insane trying to root the j7 prime years ago, im not trying to fall in to that trap again, therefore i ask, anyone have any information in regards to rooting the nokia c5 endi
I have the Nokia C5 endi. I've been trying to root it for days with no luck. Any advice? Kingroot does nothing.
I had no issues unlocking the bootloader, and getting it ready for root, but now I'm stuck. Is there anyone who has advice on the next step?
Btw this phone sucks. I'm trying to find out if rooting it makes it worth it. If there's anyone more experienced with rooting (I've scratched myself this far) that wants me to try something shoot me a message. I've got the drivers, adb, fastboot, busy box and supersu ready to go. Hardest part is finding an exploit file and there's no twrpv recovery yet yet
I cant even get the bootloader unlocked. Help anyone?
I came across this same phone. I'm trying to bypass the screen lock. I cant get it to boot into recovery by hardware keys. I have usb cable plugged in. I can only get fastboot menu to come up but I can't select it with power button or switch menus. Any ideas how to get into recovery?
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Just a generic question on how much time and what model you going to next. It appears with the stock ROMS on Verizon, most devs have moved on. The HTC 10 Verizon has Sunshine now at least, don't know jack about a new Nexus model. Just curious as what you guys are moving to. Thanks
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kgirlx said:
Just a generic question on how much time and what model you going to next. It appears with the stock ROMS on Verizon, most devs have moved on. The HTC 10 Verizon has Sunshine now at least, don't know jack about a new Nexus model. Just curious as what you guys are moving to. Thanks
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At this time, I'm sticking with the G3 unless there is a reason to upgrade. I've had the phone for 18 months now and I must say, it has been the absolute best phone I've ever had. Currently, I'm running stock, unrooted Marshmallow and it runs great for me. I haven't needed a reason to root. Root was mainly for Titanium Backup, but the LG Backup tool does just what I need if I ever need to reset the phone or want to try a new ROM.
Greenify runs as well, albeit not automatically, but I made it so that I can just press and hold the "home" button and it launches Greenify before locking the screen and shutting the screen off. Battery life is excellent for me. I can get through the day without having to charge (unless I decide it's time to play a game and then, all bets are off but that's going to be the same for just about any phone).
However, my oldest daughter just upgraded from her iPhone 5s to a Samsung Galaxy S7 and she is absolutely satisfied with it. She became tired of Apple and how difficult it was to copy music, files, etc back and forth without having to use iTunes. Battery life for her is excellent as well and she loves the fact that she can add an SD card to it to store pictures and music. She has a 64gb card in it.
So, if I were to upgrade, I would probably look at the S7 (non-edge) or maybe the LG G5. But, as I said, my phone still runs as good as it did when I first got it in December of 2014, so I have no reason to upgrade.
What would really force me to upgrade eventually would be if another major exploit was found for the version of Marshmallow that won't get patched by LG/Verizon. Then, I would probably upgrade.
I cannot even find any information on this device let alone a root method. Apparently from my searches methods for the zenphone may work but im not sure if I want to risk bricking this device, but verizon would just replace it anyway. I guess its fairly new? It came with MM and already has an OTA which i keep putting off while I am going to try out various methods to get this one rooted and unleashed since one verizon store essentially scammed me over my new s7 edge so another store refunded everything for me. Now I got this 4g tablet I want to fasten in my car and it would be nice to root or unlock and put some custom vehicle firmware on it or something like that.
I have the same issue with my new Zenpad 3 8.0 . KingRoot and some other rooting apps didn't work for me.
At least someone finally replies.... I am still stuck trying to root this thing. I've tried nearly everything to no success. Even the temporary cwm wouldn't work for me
Same here buddy. Why did ASUS remove such features as App to SD and multi user support?
Anyone found anything? I have the tablet too...
Well damn this sux, Verizon stuck me with another unrootable device, at least I can say I got my pixel in time to unlock the bootloader and route it but not much activity for it since decided to lock them down. I thought I learned with my G4 that's why I got the pixel got home just to find out they're going to be locked down too lol Oh God how I loath Verizon
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Well damn this sux, Verizon stuck me with another unrootable device, at least I can say I got my pixel in time to unlock the bootloader and route it but not much activity for it since decided to lock them down. I thought I learned with my G4 that's why I got the pixel got home just to find out they're going to be locked down too lol Oh God how I loath Verizon
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I hear ya. I have this tablet too: Asus Verizon Zenpad Z8 ZT581KL with V.3.4.23. Despite my best efforts, the damn system update notification keeps coming up telling me to update to Android 7--which I DO NOT want to do since doing that very well could kill any small hope I have on rooting the device. Since this is a Verizon branded tablet, they made an agreement with Asus to lock it down like Gitmo, so any official bootloader unlocker will not work with Verizon. Maybe one day when Verizon get's their head out of their ass and understands that people have the right to screw with their phones, they will allow unlocking options--though I doubt it.
This would be a great little tablet, if Verizon gave us more control over it--Jesus Christ, you're still getting $$ from me on your non-unlimited data. Bunch of ****-tards---I used to work for them back in the day at one of their corporate locations in Folsom, CA. Sadly, I think it's that prison mentality (Folsom Prison) that must have been carried in the air a few miles to the Verizon offices there. That was WDTS (Wireless Data Tech Support)....I was there right when EVDO just came out/expanding (Before Iphones...closest thing would have been a BES-Enabled Blackberry, or a fancy PDA)--oh those were the days...
There are rooting options available if you understand Chinese--but even its for older software versions 3.3.x, etc, and from what I can understand, the flash might actually take (hackers take note: if the flash can take..maybe we can piece together a flash with proper rooted versions)...but since this is a Sim/LTE tablet by doing that it will screw up the radio (Cellular) and recovery partitions. But maybe something round-about could be done that does that, then reflashes modified signed firmware to root it--I dunno.
My google-fu is pretty good and I came across some cached, or snippet that said SRSroot might root 6.0.1 on the ZT581KL, but not sure now legit it is.
Unless more people get this tablet/devs play with it, I don't think we will get root/bootloader/recovery anytime soon. I wish I lived in a country that allowed multiple wifes, because I would do a bounty for root on this devices and give away one of my wives for payment.
I used the tablet mostly for navigation, but I want root/twrp for backup purposes, if I need to wipe the device crossing the border since police now wanting to look at peoples phones/tablets. I love using Waze since I'll be driving down the road with a FAT blunt smoking away, so it's good to know if cops are around.
Zenpad z8 running on Fi
I also have this pad. I bought it from Verizon because it's USB-C and I loathe micro USB and even more so because the helpful sales guy at Verizon let me try my Google Fi data only sim...and sure enough it works awesome after setting h2g2 as the apn. Would love to root it though I hate how I can only have one user account on this for now.
Kind of off-topic, but I can't find any clear answer to my question about the Z8 and Z8s. I'm considering buying one, but I do not want a data-plan. Do these tablets work without a SIM in them, or will I be stuck at a home screen that says "Insert SIM..."?
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Kind of off-topic, but I can't find any clear answer to my question about the Z8 and Z8s. I'm considering buying one, but I do not want a data-plan. Do these tablets work without a SIM in them, or will I be stuck at a home screen that says "Insert SIM..."?
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Of course you can use it without a SIM.
I just ordered this tablet. I'm sad I can't root it, but I mainly use root for adblocking. I will have to use DNS66 or BlockThis instead.
This method doesn't work?
https://neopodapsi.com/how-to-root-asus-zenpad-z8/
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This method doesn't work?
Nope, just a scam to fill out never ending surveys
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Zenpad P008 Verizon root - no luck
I just tried One Click Root and that didn't work either. Upon chatting with support they were stymied by the lack of an 'OEM Override' debug mode setting.
Can anybody help, I'm new at this stuff. Plus I'm teaching myself. I've rooted some devices. Did some firmware jobs, kinda' familiar with Odin. But I've tried everything from KingRoot PC to adb tryna' root this thing (P008). Between this thing and that Knox MDM shizzle. Man!, Anybody got anything on these topics......
Anyone try Magisk?? I also want to root this thing. Cannot get a usb gaming controller to recognize either.
Hey guys, So i got a t-mobile revvl due to an emergency, it has a mtk6738 chip and im trying to root it... can anyone point me to the right place? ive searched and searched but i cant seem to find anything for this chipset on for the MTK65XX.
thanks in advance!
No luck :/
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Hey guys, So i got a t-mobile revvl due to an emergency, it has a mtk6738 chip and im trying to root it... can anyone point me to the right place? ive searched and searched but i cant seem to find anything for this chipset on for the MTK65XX.
thanks in advance!
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Phone came out around 2 months ago, same phone and same problem. Sorry to inform Root/TWRP won't be available for a while on the phone since it's so new no developer has gotten their hands on it to start developing for it. I predict it'll be faster than most new phones because it's exclusive to T-Mobile. It would take much longer if the phone had different variants because of the different carriers, but that's not the case with the revvl so what's left to do is to wait and hope ::fingers-crossed:
Anyone has the stock rom for this device?
it is like this phone doesnt exist. cant find anything. Got this phone in america and it seems impossible to unlock in mexico. do you guys think if a root will be available it will be unlocked for use in mexico? thanks!
I may be able to help with root. I don't have the phone, but if someone is willing to potentially risk their device for the sake of science, let me know.
If this goes the way I think/hope it does (since its a MediaTek), we may be able to get root and recovery in a VERY short time for this. If not, then unfortunately you're out of luck for now. But, if one of you is willing to risk it and try, I'll be more than happy to help you out.
For now though, nobody update their firmware AT ALL. They may release a patch in the future that blocks what I want to do.
UPDATE: I got to play with one at a T-Mobile store. CPU Z says this has a 6755 board, which is commonly available through other phones that have been modified. I'm really getting excited about this... If this goes the way I hope it does, you could be having TWRP and root REALLY soon.
i will be back in germany at on dec.21,if german t-mobile can't unlock it for use in germany I am willing to do anything with it for science..since I will throw this useless piece of technology at the wall anyway
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i will be back in germany at on dec.21,if german t-mobile can't unlock it for use in germany I am willing to do anything with it for science..since I will throw this useless piece of technology at the wall anyway
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Let me know as soon as you have access to a PC with Windows or Linux, which I'm guessing is when you get back to Germany. For now, make sure you DO NOT TAKE ANY SOFTWARE UPDATES AT ALL. You can update apps from the Play Store still, but keep away from all system updates at all costs.
Send me a PM for how I can reach you, when you're ready to work with me. The procedure I'm thinking of will not unlock your phone in terms of network (like using it on other carriers), but if it works you will definitely have TWRP and root access, and MAYBE even a bootloader unlock (for installing custom ROMs).
But in the meantime, I can't stress this enough, AVOID ALL SYSTEM UPDATES. This goes for anyone who may want to root their phone using this method, if this works.
I just bought one to use on a spare phone line - Cyber Monday sale for $48! I'm happy to experiment when it arrives. Maybe the sale price will entice some other developers...
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Let me know as soon as you have access to a PC with Windows or Linux, which I'm guessing is when you get back to Germany. For now, make sure you DO NOT TAKE ANY SOFTWARE UPDATES AT ALL. You can update apps from the Play Store still, but keep away from all system updates at all costs.
Send me a PM for how I can reach you, when you're ready to work with me. The procedure I'm thinking of will not unlock your phone in terms of network (like using it on other carriers), but if it works you will definitely have TWRP and root access, and MAYBE even a bootloader unlock (for installing custom ROMs).
But in the meantime, I can't stress this enough, AVOID ALL SYSTEM UPDATES. This goes for anyone who may want to root their phone using this method, if this works.
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I just bought one to use on a spare phone line - Cyber Monday sale for $48! I'm happy to experiment when it arrives. Maybe the sale price will entice some other developers...
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$48?????? THEY WERE $179 WHERE I WAS!!!!!
For that price I would've bought one myself... But yes, that would be great if you could work with me when it arrives!
I would be willing to help as much as possible with root access as well. If you need any sort of system dump or something let me know I am very much willing to help!
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I would be willing to help as much as possible with root access as well. If you need any sort of system dump or something let me know I am very much willing to help!
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Overall, it doesn't look like we have any of the obstructions I was afraid we were going to have so far. We need to work on a few things before we can get the whole thing done, but as of now, this hack looks like it will be 100% possible to do
UPDATE: We're running into some trouble again. Stuff I may not be able to bypass. I'm not sure if this will be 100% possible now...
Picked up two of these for $48 each on the T-Mobile Cyber Monday deal and got them to waive the shipping, set one up for my Mom and it's a pretty nice phone. I still have the other one sealed in the box, debating whether to keep it or sell it. Root and TWRP would be awesome, hopefully it comes soon.
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Picked up two of these for $48 each on the T-Mobile Cyber Monday deal and got them to waive the shipping, set one up for my Mom and it's a pretty nice phone. I still have the other one sealed in the box, debating whether to keep it or sell it. Root and TWRP would be awesome, hopefully it comes soon.
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A device no one has touched could be beneficial, since that means there's no Google Factory Reset Protection on it (no google account associated with it yet). If you want to use your unused device for some of the tests/methods we're working on, let me know.
Another update on our findings: with the help of @lopestom, I've found out that this device looks to be a 1:1 copy of the Alcatel A30 Fierce, and a distant cousin of the A30 Plus that Amazon once sold as a prime subsidized phone. Despite what SPFT and CPU-Z say, this phone should be running an MT6738 chipset, which uses the same partition layout as the MT6735. I have a completed scatter file for the 6735 from my R1HD days, so if this is the case, knowing where the phone's partitions are should be no problem.
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Another update on our findings: with the help of @lopestom, I've found out that this device looks to be a 1:1 copy of the Alcatel A30 Fierce, and a distant cousin of the A30 Plus that Amazon once sold as a prime subsidized phone. Despite what SPFT and CPU-Z say, this phone should be running an MT6738 chipset, which uses the same partition layout as the MT6735. I have a completed scatter file for the 6735 from my R1HD days, so if this is the case, knowing where the phone's partitions are should be no problem.
My biggest fear is, again, that SPFT is being blocked in the same way that it now is on the R1HD. Besides that, we found out that Google's FRP may prevent us from accessing the developer menu to enable ADB on the phone. Now, I could've sworn I got into the developer menu in a store demo Revvl by mashing the Build Number entry like I would on any other phone, but for some reason the person I'm working with is unable to get to this menu (mashing Build Number does nothing for him). If another Revvl user is reading this, can you please try to enable the Developer Menu and ADB for me? I want to see if this issue is just for him or if it affects everyone.
EDIT: The error given from SPFT with the Revvl VS with the R1HD are completely different errors, so this gives me hope that we can still use SPFT with the Revvl.
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Hey my name is Jakob, i also has a T-Mobile revvl (Alcatel 5049w) and yes my developer options have been enabled without any issues and I'm willing to assist in rooting options if I can help
just tried doing a reboot to bootloader with no luck, it reboots, hangs on the power by angroid then fully boots to stock rom.
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Worked on the Revvl Plus with @oasisfleeting tonight. It's a snapdragon 625 based phone, unlike its mediatek based little brother. This phone actually allows us to go into fastboot mode unlike the normal Revvl though. However, with the exception of fastboot devices (just shows what's connected), no commands actually work. They either all return "..." Or show that no device is connected (when it actually is). Even throwing in the device ID: fastboot -i 0x1ebf oem unlock does nothing.
For the mediatek variant, there is still a very small sliver of hope. For the Plus variant, I'm pretty sure you will never get the bootloader unlocked. Root maybe, but that'll be it.
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Worked on the Revvl Plus with @oasisfleeting tonight. It's a snapdragon 625 based phone, unlike its mediatek based little brother. This phone actually allows us to go into fastboot mode unlike the normal Revvl though. However, with the exception of fastboot devices (just shows what's connected), no commands actually work. They either all return "..." Or show that no device is connected (when it actually is). Even throwing in the device ID: fastboot -i 0x1ebf oem unlock does nothing.
For the mediatek variant, there is still a very small sliver of hope. For the Plus variant, I'm pretty sure you will never get the bootloader unlocked. Root maybe, but that'll be it.
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There are other unlocking commands too. Did you try "fastboot flashing unlock" on the plus
I have also seen bootloader mode renamed before. so try "adb reboot fastboot" to get into fastboot.
Hi there, I just got the 6P as my nexus 5x went into bootloop (not semi-bootloop from a bad flash, the one that is caused from one of the processors dying) and none of the fixes were working. I just wanted some general info, the do's, the do nots, etc. Does this phone also suffer from the same issue? I was rooted on 8.1 with Magisk. Does flashing / rooting put you more at risk to an unfixable bootloop? I would be planning on just flashing TWRP, and Magisk on a stock rom. Any tips, recommendations, etc would be highly appreciated!
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Hi there, I just got the 6P as my nexus 5x went into bootloop (not semi-bootloop from a bad flash, the one that is caused from one of the processors dying) and none of the fixes were working. I just wanted some general info, the do's, the do nots, etc. Does this phone also suffer from the same issue? I was rooted on 8.1 with Magisk. Does flashing / rooting put you more at risk to an unfixable bootloop? I would be planning on just flashing TWRP, and Magisk on a stock rom. Any tips, recommendations, etc would be highly appreciated!
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Yes this phone will do it to in fact the message that I am writing is being sent from one that went into bootloop previously. Routing and such does not cause the boot loop. It is a processor malfunction. You can flash a kernel that will disregard the faulty processors in this situation should it become necessary. All you need to do is to make sure your bootloader is unlocked so you will have the ability to flash this kernel and go ahead and search for the fix so you will have it handy.
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Yes this phone will do it to in fact the message that I am writing is being sent from one that went into bootloop previously. Routing and such does not cause the boot loop. It is a processor malfunction. You can flash a kernel that will disregard the faulty processors in this situation should it become necessary. All you need to do is to make sure your bootloader is unlocked so you will have the ability to flash this kernel and go ahead and search for the fix so you will have it handy.
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Well that's a shame to hear, my Nexus 5x went into bootloop and I could not fix it, even with the patched files. I hope it doesn't happen to this. But I'm glad to hear it rooting/flashing will not induce a permanent bootloop and that it is indeed a processor malfunction. I just unlocked the device as we speak, I'm going to be flashing Magisk and TWRP soon. What kernel are you referencing, just so I can have it *just incase*.
Thanks for the info!
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Well that's a shame to hear, my Nexus 5x went into bootloop and I could not fix it, even with the patched files. I hope it doesn't happen to this. But I'm glad to hear it rooting/flashing will not induce a permanent bootloop and that it is indeed a processor malfunction. I just unlocked the device as we speak, I'm going to be flashing Magisk and TWRP soon. What kernel are you referencing, just so I can have it *just incase*.
Thanks for the info!
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Sorry I don't have the URL handy but it's in here just search in the 6p forums and you should easily find it as there has been a lot of chatter about it
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Unlock the bootloader on the 6p right off the bat. Activate the developer options, Turn on OEM unlocking, Adroid debugging and Debugging notify. Shut off "verify apps over USB". You'll have to connect the device to
the computer and do the fastboot command to achieve the final bootloader unlocking but once done, you're safe. Every time you boot, you'll see the stupidhead screen imploring you to lock the bootloader but ignore it.
Phone will boot evey time. I ultimately downloaded the 8.1.0 (OPM3.171019.013, Jan 2018) image used my Ubuntu laptop to get the rom in the phone, rooted it with Magisk, TWRP'd it and got the latest Lineage 15.1 kernel and
flashed that. Only problem I have is I can't get a USB stick to be read from the OTG socket. It's identified but it won't read the stick. Now that's O.K. with me because the phone will interface with a computer fine AND
if I boot into TWRP recovery, the file manager there does backups to an attached USB stick and can read and write to it perfectly fine. It's a quirk I can live with. I believe only 4 cores are used but it runs pretty nicely.
Battery swaps are a bear and I have a "good" 64Gb model and bought a "bootloop" 128gb special that looks immaculate. I've tried most of the tricks and it's gorked. I'm going to use it for a battery swap practice unit for when
I want to swap the battery on my good 64gb model. I also bought a new housing in case I dork some of the hardware getting the case open. Crappy design on the battery and they expect a $600.00 to $700.00 when new
phone is supposed to be "throwaway" after two years? Oh, don't buy a bootloop special unless it's dirt cheap. I'll not get the $100.00 I paid for the 128gb unit back or out of it. I don't think I'll be able to fix the one I got. When I open the case, I'll heat the CPU's directly and see if that will get it to start.
What is supposed to happen is one is to let the phone drain down to near nothing, plug it into the charger, let it bootloop for 5 minutes and they apply heat to the area between the camera and the fingerprint sensor.
When it gets to 50 degrees C, the phone supposedly shuts down the "bad" cpu's and will boot as a new phone on the "good" cpu's. One then is supposed to run into the menu, become the developer and do the steps I outlined above to allow OEM unlock. THEN it's safe to try and start loading a new ROM as the phone will communicate with a computer. I took the 128Gb unit and got it connected to an Ubuntu Linux laptop and "fastboot devices" shows the phone but since the bootloader is locked it won't do anything with it. I say the 6p is "ok" when compared to a $1000.00 Pixel 2 which of course is going to be a bear if one wishes to swap out the battery in the future. Lithiums only last so long (or any battery chemistry for that matter) then they need to be replace. Spend a grand on phone and it oughta last
more than two years. Kurt
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Unlock the bootloader on the 6p right off the bat. Activate the developer options, Turn on OEM unlocking, Adroid debugging and Debugging notify. Shut off "verify apps over USB". You'll have to connect the device to
the computer and do the fastboot command to achieve the final bootloader unlocking but once done, you're safe. Every time you boot, you'll see the stupidhead screen imploring you to lock the bootloader but ignore it.
Phone will boot evey time. I ultimately downloaded the 8.1.0 (OPM3.171019.013, Jan 2018) image used my Ubuntu laptop to get the rom in the phone, rooted it with Magisk, TWRP'd it and got the latest Lineage 15.1 kernel and
flashed that. Only problem I have is I can't get a USB stick to be read from the OTG socket. It's identified but it won't read the stick. Now that's O.K. with me because the phone will interface with a computer fine AND
if I boot into TWRP recovery, the file manager there does backups to an attached USB stick and can read and write to it perfectly fine. It's a quirk I can live with. I believe only 4 cores are used but it runs pretty nicely.
Battery swaps are a bear and I have a "good" 64Gb model and bought a "bootloop" 128gb special that looks immaculate. I've tried most of the tricks and it's gorked. I'm going to use it for a battery swap practice unit for when
I want to swap the battery on my good 64gb model. I also bought a new housing in case I dork some of the hardware getting the case open. Crappy design on the battery and they expect a $600.00 to $700.00 when new
phone is supposed to be "throwaway" after two years? Oh, don't buy a bootloop special unless it's dirt cheap. I'll not get the $100.00 I paid for the 128gb unit back or out of it. I don't think I'll be able to fix the one I got. When I open the case, I'll heat the CPU's directly and see if that will get it to start.
What is supposed to happen is one is to let the phone drain down to near nothing, plug it into the charger, let it bootloop for 5 minutes and they apply heat to the area between the camera and the fingerprint sensor.
When it gets to 50 degrees C, the phone supposedly shuts down the "bad" cpu's and will boot as a new phone on the "good" cpu's. One then is supposed to run into the menu, become the developer and do the steps I outlined above to allow OEM unlock. THEN it's safe to try and start loading a new ROM as the phone will communicate with a computer. I took the 128Gb unit and got it connected to an Ubuntu Linux laptop and "fastboot devices" shows the phone but since the bootloader is locked it won't do anything with it. I say the 6p is "ok" when compared to a $1000.00 Pixel 2 which of course is going to be a bear if one wishes to swap out the battery in the future. Lithiums only last so long (or any battery chemistry for that matter) then they need to be replace. Spend a grand on phone and it oughta last
more than two years. Kurt
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Hi Kurt,
Wow, first off thanks for the indepth response. My Nexus 5x was unlocked, rooted with Magisk, allowed unlocking, usb debugging etc. Still can't fix it. I put it in the freezer and got it to boot into TWRP for 30 seconds before it boot looped. Bootloader always works, and can flash, but cannot boot into the rom or recovery. Anyway, I bought this 6P (128gb for $170, perfect condition with a Spigen case and glass screen protector.) because the Nexus 5x is dead, but wasn't aware this also has the same issue which sucks. I run Debian 32bit on my laptop, and it's a breeze compared to windows. Just had to grab the binaries for adb and fastboot, unlike windows where you gotta install crazy large sdk packs, make sure you got the correct drivers, etc. I unlocked the 6P, oem unlocking & usb debugging is checked on developer options. I flashed TWRP, and I'm on 8.1 OPM3.171019.014 (Feb 5th) because the newest one (8.1.0 OPM5.171019.015) won't pick up my Verizon simcard. I flashed Elemental X so I can underclock it, I'm running 4 cores at 1,200mhz and it still runs flawlessly. Any reason I should be using the LineageOS 15.1 kernel? I don't ever plan on using LineageOS or a custom rom. Just stock rooted for me. The battery life is kind of poor compared to the Nexus 5x. I'm a little confused, what do you mean by "Battery swaps are a bear"? If it's worth it, maybe I will put in a new battery. Lithiums life are extended if you don't charge 100% and don't let it die. If you keep it above 20% and charge to 90% max, you'll extend the lifespan by a lot. Some phone companies like Samsung already do this. Your 100% charge is actually only 95% or so in reality. Other things like Telsa cars also do this. I wouldn't have upgraded for a few years if my Nexus 5x didn't die, and honestly if I wasn't afraid of another bootloop, I would have gotten another, I loved that phone. The pixel 2 is great, my brother has one, but I'm not spending more than 250 on a phone ever again in my life, and 250 being the absolute max. I also don't want to sign a contract and do a device payment, I want to own it in full. I will upgrade to the pixel 1 XL when this phone requires me to do so, and hopefully that's at least 2 years from now. Thanks in advance!
Cheers.
Tore open the 128gb "bootloop" special using the variety of videos out there. Heated the CPU's directly although the battery
was I believe fully charged. No dice of breaking the bootloop to have it boot to a "clean" system and unlock the bootloader.
There were no anti tamper seals on this thing so I thing someone threw it out there for $94.00 and I stupidly bit. I caution
folks that unless one can buy a "bootloop" special for less than $20.00 and they have a "good" 6P they want to replace a battery on, don't buy a bootloop special unless it is dirt cheap. Use it to practice on for battery replacement before using
it on a "good" 6p.
I heated the CPU, case off while in a bootloop and no magic restoration was seen. The battery was from October 2015.
I dinged the edges of the glass but got the back half off pretty decently. If the thing booted up and I were able to restore it, I would have been happy with it as the dings aren't really noticeable.. I need to get some guitar opening picks without a lip on them as they are better to work with.
Last ditch attempt will be to drain it down to el "zippo" percent left, put it on a charger and see if I can make the $94.00 evaporate under the auspices of a 1000 watt heat gun with the back case off. Again, don't buy a "bootloop" special of a 6p unless it's dirt cheap. Kurt
Hey everybody. Just getting my new 2021 G Play up and running. For some reason, it seems slow as hell. Specs wise, it should be significantly faster than it is. I'm experiencing delays when typing, changing apps, and just the lag time from when you click a button until the screen changes and you can go onto the next task sucks.
Anybody have any tips? What might be causing the issue? I got the 3 gig RAM version, which should still be plenty. I feel like it's being artificially slowed by software and it would be nice to fix that problem.
kendogg41 said:
Hey everybody. Just getting my new 2021 G Play up and running. For some reason, it seems slow as hell. Specs wise, it should be significantly faster than it is. I'm experiencing delays when typing, changing apps, and just the lag time from when you click a button until the screen changes and you can go onto the next task sucks.
Anybody have any tips? What might be causing the issue? I got the 3 gig RAM version, which should still be plenty. I feel like it's being artificially slowed by software and it would be nice to fix that problem.
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do a factory reset; then unlock your bootloader; then flash the retail US rom (retus) ; then root it with magisk; then de crapify til your heart is content...
or at the very least factory reset, and uninstall facebook
tbirdguy said:
do a factory reset; then unlock your bootloader; then flash the retail US rom (retus) ; then root it with magisk; then de crapify til your heart is content...
or at the very least factory reset, and uninstall facebook
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I don't have facebook or anything else thats a big resource hog.
I bought mine unlocked directly from Motorola a few weeks ago, I assume it should have the retail US rom?
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I don't have facebook or anything else thats a big resource hog.
I bought mine unlocked directly from Motorola a few weeks ago, I assume it should have the retail US rom?
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Yep, it's the retail rom. I am in the exact same boat as you, bought it a few weeks ago from Target US since I needed a decent unlocked phone to use with a high data prepaid sim. So far this thing is the best phone I've ever had. I'll share a few things I've learned/done since I've unlocked and rooted mine if you would like.
My device was reasonably quick out of the box and I noticed little if any lag. But I usually buy 50 dollar phones from walmart so I might not have the most reliable opinion about that. By the way the Facebook APK and a few facebook services reside on the phone, and I can't recall but they might even be installed out of the box but just deactivated. You'd be surprised how much crap is on this thing that sits idly by waiting for a compatible carrier SIM to give the phone the Go-Ahead to install.
So yeah, the tip I would suggest is to unlock the bootloader, install magisk and get root, then use some magisk modules and ADB scripts to start cleaning out the stuff you don't want. You'll be glad you did. I stripped out a lot of verizon installed services, amazon/facebook APKs, and all the motorola OEM apps I wasn't interested in, which was basically all of them. The phone is butter smooth. I have cloudflare DNS and ad aware installed, in addition to a couple of other modules.
I used to root devices years ago and took a break from around 2015 till now. Magisk is a slightly different experience than the way it used to be but for the most part it's dead simple and very flexible. On top of that, with the right flash tools and a copy of your firmware these devices seem nearly unbrickable. I've already soft bricked the thing a couple of times and it was just a matter of a quick magisk reflash and finangling some settings. Kept the same OS install, didn't lose anything.
Good luck! Let me know if you need any help.
Well this is good info, thanks. To be fair, this is about the slowest phone I've ever had. I'm coming from a OnePlus 6 thats been a constant headache too for the past couple years (everytime I wanted to make an outbound call I had to reboot the POS). I picked up the OnePlus second hand. I just can't stomach these $1k phone prices, and this has nearly the same specs as most of the $500 phones.
yeah, for me it was getting rid of the facebook.apk that came packaged. As soon as I did that it was a new phone. Didn't even need to bother with magisk this go around.
foxheadmat said:
yeah, for me it was getting rid of the facebook.apk that came packaged. As soon as I did that it was a new phone. Didn't even need to bother with magisk this go around.
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Disabling the 3 Facebook system apps also works.