There seems a lot more heat generated by the device compared to the 25w. Is this normal or will it degrade the battery over time?
If you're using your phone while charging and it's heating up with 45w that's normal. You just don't want to overheat the battery where it explodes.
Just use the 25w charger for safety. You don't need a note 7 situation
It happens because you are charging at a higher rate. The funny thing is that with the 45W charger, you are only charging at 30-32W at most (from 0% to ~60%, after that it decreases to the same as the stock charger), compared to the 23-25W of the standard charger. The heat can cause accelerated wear on the battery, so there is not much benefit in using the 45W charger. The only time I find it useful is when I don't have time and need to pump in 10-20% before I leave the house.
Try not going below 40% or charging beyond 80%, 90% max.
Periodically charge through most of the range and at different percentages to avoid a known Li memory effect.
LI's love short, frequent charges; you can glean hundreds, even thousands more full charge cycles by doing this.
•Do not charge if battery temp below freezing!!!
•Best battery temp is above 80F to avoid Li plating which permanently degrades the cell.
•Limit charge max temp to 101 F, much above this will slow the charge. Use air or a damp microfiber cloth to reduce temp. If you limit the charge to between say 45-65% it will charge fast and cool.
Li's degrade faster from high temp and high cell voltage.
You can easily control cell voltage not charging over 80%, 65% is optimum for longevity.
20% charge in this range takes 10 minutes and should be good for about 2 hours.
•Do not use the phone while charging as it disrupts the charge cycle and it will charge much slower.
So take a 10 minute break and give your battery a break too...
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Try not going below 40% or charging beyond 80%, 90% max.
Periodically charge through most of the range and at different percentages to avoid a known Li memory effect.
LI's love short, frequent charges; you can glean hundreds, even thousands more full charge cycles by doing this.
•Do not charge if battery temp below freezing!!!
•Best battery temp is above 80F to avoid Li plating which permanently degrades the cell.
•Limit charge max temp to 101 F, much above this will slow the charge. Use air or a damp microfiber cloth to reduce temp. If you limit the charge to between say 45-65% it will charge fast and cool.
Li's degrade faster from high temp and high cell voltage.
You can easily control cell voltage not charging over 80%, 65% is optimum for longevity.
20% charge in this range takes 10 minutes and should be good for about 2 hours.
•Do not use the phone while charging as it disrupts the charge cycle and it will charge much slower.
So take a 10 minute break and give your battery a break too...
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Information all very well and good, BUT, the S20 range are not fitted with Lithium Ion batteries, they are fitted with Lithium Polymer (LiPo) which don't suffer memory effect.
jonboi said:
Information all very well and good, BUT, the S20 range are not fitted with Lithium Ion batteries, they are fitted with Lithium Polymer (LiPo) which don't suffer memory effect.
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My bad... you are correct.
Good news; all the more reason to good with short midrange partial charge cycles
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2015/979321/
Accubattery app does a great job helping me extend battery life. It lets me get an alert at my chosen preset charge level so that I can stop at, say, 80%. While it's not intrusive, forcing me to learn all the minutia, it monitors more than charger state, but also battery wear condition, how much battery wear each particular charge session is putting on it. Each app screen helps educate me on how's and why's of best practices for battery longevity, with dynamic data on my practices over time. I highly recommend it. Free and premium versions; only costs about $4 - $5 one-time.
PS: Stay with me here... 1 week now w/my S20+ is my first Sammy since S4, and am shocked to learn that Bixby Routines are awesome (in spite of basic Bixby redundancy with Google Assistant)- I've been a fan of automated Routines with my phones for years, and I set up a Bixby Routine to run Accubattery as soon as phone begins charging, and the app gives me alerts when I've hit 80% so I can shut it down. (I have created a few other choice Routines since)
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Accubattery app does a great job helping me extend battery life. It lets me get an alert at my chosen preset charge level so that I can stop at, say, 80%. While it's not intrusive, forcing me to learn all the minutia, it monitors more than charger state, but also battery wear condition, how much battery wear each particular charge session is putting on it. Each app screen helps educate me on how's and why's of best practices for battery longevity, with dynamic data on my practices over time. I highly recommend it. Free and premium versions; only costs about $4 - $5 one-time.
PS: Stay with me here... 1 week now w/my S20+ is my first Sammy since S4, and am shocked to learn that Bixby Routines are awesome (in spite of basic Bixby redundancy with Google Assistant)- I've been a fan of automated Routines with my phones for years, and I set up a Bixby Routine to run Accubattery as soon as phone begins charging, and the app gives me alerts when I've hit 80% so I can shut it down. (I have created a few other choice Routines since)View attachment 5184931
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Accubattery runs in the background so the battery % charge alarm works even if the app isn't open and the screen is off.
However I'm running on Pie ... Q isn't as friendly.
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Accubattery runs in the background so the battery % charge alarm works even if the app isn't open and the screen is off.
However I'm running on Pie ... Q isn't as friendly.
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Try app settings menu/tips and help/"disable task killer detection". Turn on that switch. So far no killing of the app for me!
PS: I'm on Android 11, One UI 3.0, T-Mobile install.
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Try app settings menu/tips and help/"disable task killer detection". Turn on that switch. So far no killing of the app for me!
PS: I'm on Android 11, One UI 3.0, T-Mobile install.
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Same here. Plus on Pie (at least) the milliamp screen overlay works.
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Since i see a lot of ranting going over the battery life again, i thought it would be appropriate to share this.
So after noticing how much of a difference people get in their battery lives, I've decided to do some research and make a guide-line that will give us all we need to know about properly using our batteries. First part is a general information and usage techniques for LIBs, second part is taken from Google materials on Android-powered devices (G1, Magic, Droid, Nexus One, etc).
Sources:
Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium-ion_battery
BatteryUniversity - http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
Google IO Conference 2009 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUemfrKe65c
Electropaedia - http://www.mpoweruk.com/life.htm
General Lithium-Ion Battery (LIB) Usage:
• Discharging your LIB fully (or less than 2.4 Volt per cell) is bad for the battery. Every time you do that, it can be said that small part of your battery (some cells) dies (they forever lose their charge). Do not store your batteries depleted, there's a high chance they will die completely or will become very "weak".
• You cannot restore bad LIBs by overloading/heating/praying. You gotta go buy a new one. They DO degrade overtime, some cells naturally lose the ability to gain/give electricity.
• Although it is said that LIBs do not have memory, it's not entirely true. LIBs have gauges that monitor performance of cells, and if you do a lot of small charges, it won't let those gauges to monitor a full battery potential, causing an invalid indication of charge level. A complete charge/discharge should be made when battery capacity seems reduced, that will calibrate gauges and they will provide your phone with correct charge level status. A full charge/discharge cycle should be done every 30 (or so) partial charges.
• LIBs have a shelf-life. Do not buy them to store them. Use them early, use them often, they will die whether you use them or not. Do not buy LIBs to use them in 6 months/year/etc, buy them right before actually using them.
• LIBs have short lives (in comparison to NiCa batteries, etc). You should expect to buy a new battery in 2-3 years after being manufactured. It is caused by internal oxidation and there's nothing you can do to stop or prevent that.
• Worst LIB treatment is to keep it at 100% charge level at high temperature (think laptop/phone under direct sunlight, like car dashboard).
• Best LIB treatment, or LIBs "favorite" charge level - 40%. That's also the usual charge level you buy them with.
• LIBs don't like heat. For example, while always at 100%, typical LIB in a laptop, at temperatures of 25C (77F) will lose 20% (twenty percent!) of full capacity per year. That capacity loss is reduced to 6% (six percent) at 0C (32F), and increased to 35% loss at 40C (104F). So, keep them cool (LIBs like fridges), don't let your devices sit in the sun or overheat at charge. Also, keep in mind that while in use, battery will be significantly hotter than phone/outside environment
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• LIBs like frequent partial charges/discharges more than they like full charges/discharges.
General Android power usage advice from google:
• Although this part is somewhat controversial, they do recommend having a complete, full FIRST charge to be made. If time allows, a preferred time for the first charge is 12 hours. This may have more to do with the OS than the battery.
• Battery on a Android device, in average, will last about a full day with normal use (some videos, mail, calls). That's what you should kind-of expect.
• Speaking in averages, "idling" 3G/EDGE connection (when phone is sleeping and no data is transferred through 3G), drains almost no energy. Just a little more than having 3G/EDGE radio off completely. So when no apps are using 3G, you don't need to keep it off.
• Same goes to WiFi connection - although it's on, if there is no data flowing through it, it uses almost no energy.
• At full throughput (100% data flow), EDGE is using more energy than 3G. In average, 3G is more energy-efficient than EDGE.
• WiFi is using more energy than 3G (when both are at 100% use), but since it transfers files much faster and then goes to "sleep", it's actually recommended to use WiFi whenever possible. Since it'll "sleep" more often than 3G, overall it will use much less battery than using 3G.
• Some bad apps or widgets can use android's "WakeLock", keeping CPU at 100%, screen always-on, or both. I myself have encountered such widget (I won't mention the name, it's in the market) that used a WakeLock to keep CPU spun-up at 100% all the time. That makes a huge impact on battery life. My advice - use a CPU profiling app to monitor the CPU - make sure that CPU slows down by itself when it's not used. So, beware of such widgets/apps. To check for CPU cycles, many recommend OSMonitor (free from market, install it, go to options, sort by "Load" in descending order. It'll give you "busiest" processes at the top). At rest you should be getting about 10-20% for OSMonitor itself, and 1-10% Android System. At rest, everything else should be 0-1%.
• Android slows down CPU when not in use by itself, as a built-in feature. Apps that throttle/change CPU frequency, are not necessarily needed.
All this info comes from those reputable resources I mentioned above, I didn't make any of it up.
Note : I am just sharing this. All credits go this post.
Some points about LIB contradict the other points. Very wierd.
There's a lot of things that contradict each other. How does Edge take more battery than 3G? That makes absolutely no sense. With 3G I get minimum 7-8h and on Edge 12hrs+ depending on usage.
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There's a lot of things that contradict each other. How does Edge take more battery than 3G? That makes absolutely no sense. With 3G I get minimum 7-8h and on Edge 12hrs+ depending on usage.
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To be simple :
1. Therotically : Edge is slow in data transfer. So it requires the connection to be on for a larger amount of time as compared to 3g. While 3g completes the data transfer in a smaller time period. So 3g takes less battery as compared to edge.
2. Practically : If the 3g signal is weak, then the phone constantly tries to search for a better 3g tower, thus using more battery. While as the edge connection in most countries is stable (lot of radio towers).
So practically speaking, edge takes less battery than 3g.
Understood?
Don't be a noob. Be a newbie..!!
Details here.
It's not dangerous if we keep charging overnight at room temperature (Here in Indonesia, 25C is an average temperature at night, and 30ish at days) because the phone will stop charging after it reaches 100%
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Does it seem like your phone charges very quickly until the battery gets close to full and then charging slows down dramatically? To answer this question, we decided to run a test to see how fast phones charge at different battery levels. For this test, we’re going to use a new tool called Battery Mentor for real-time measurements of the charging speed.
For more details about Battery Mentor, please see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-battery-mentor-t3498470
Test Procedure:
Set the screen brightness to the max setting for consistent results across different battery levels and devices
Close all apps running in the background
Charge or let the battery drain to the desired level
Launch Battery Mentor
Connect the charger
Wait for 30 seconds or until the charging power stabilizes
Make a note of the power value
Repeat steps 1-7 for various battery levels
Devices:
We ran the test on several devices to see if the behavior varies from device to device:
Nexus 6 (2014, November)(Android 7.0) - Li-Po 3220 mAh battery
Nexus 5 (2013, October)(Android 6.0.1) - Li-Po 2300 mAh battery
Nexus 7 (2013, July)(Android 4.4.2)- Li-Ion 4325 mAh battery
Results:
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In the 1-80% range, the charging power remains consistent across all devices.
The charging power varies across different devices. This is most likely due to battery technology as the newest device had the fastest charging speeds (Nexus 6 - 2014, November) and the oldest device had the slowest charging speeds (Nexus 7 – 2013, July).
The charging power drops off dramatically in the 80-100% range for the Nexus 6. This can be attributed to a technique called Trickle Charging, which reduces the charging current to extend the battery lifespan. It’s interesting to note that the neither the Nexus 5 nor the Nexus 7 exhibited this technique.
Conclusions:
Some devices do slow down charging dramatically the when the battery starts getting close to full. This can be explained by a technique called Trickle Charging, which reduces the charging current once the battery level reaches 80% to extend the lifespan of the battery.
The above observation is important when you try different charging cables with Battery Mentor or another charging app. Please check to make sure your battery level is at 80% or less when evaluating a charger.
Does your battery on your device behave the same way or differently? Would you like us to run more tests like this in the future? Let us know in the comments!
BatteryMentor said:
Does it seem like your phone charges very quickly until the battery gets close to full and then charging slows down dramatically? To answer this question, we decided to run a test to see how fast phones charge at different battery levels. For this test, weâ??re going to use a new tool called Battery Mentor for real-time measurements of the charging speed.
For more details about Battery Mentor, please see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-battery-mentor-t3498470
Test Procedure:
Set the screen brightness to the max setting for consistent results across different battery levels and devices
Close all apps running in the background
Charge or let the battery drain to the desired level
Launch Battery Mentor
Connect the charger
Wait for 30 seconds or until the charging power stabilizes
Make a note of the power value
Repeat steps 1-7 for various battery levels
Devices:
We ran the test on several devices to see if the behavior varies from device to device:
Nexus 6 (2014, November)(Android 7.0) - Li-Po 3220 mAh battery
Nexus 7 (2013, July)(Android 4.4.2)- Li-Ion 4325 mAh battery
Results:
Observations and Discussion:
In the 1-80% range, the charging power remains consistent across all devices.
The charging power drops off dramatically in the 80-100% range for the Nexus 6. This can be attributed to a technique called Trickle Charging, which reduces the charging current to extend the battery lifespan. Itâ??s interesting to note that the neither the Nexus 5 nor the Nexus 7 exhibited this technique.
Conclusions:
Some devices do slow down charging dramatically the when the battery starts getting close to full. This can be explained by a technique called Trickle Charging, which reduces the charging current once the battery level reaches 80% to extend the lifespan of the battery.
The above observation is important when you try different charging cables with Battery Mentor or another charging app. Please check to make sure your battery level is at 80% or less when evaluating a charger.
Does your battery on your device behave the same way or differently? Would you like us to run more tests like this in the future? Let us know in the comments!
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Uhhh... Guys...
All batteries do that... From the simple Ni-Cad all the way to the more complex li-ion...
Whether it has the circuitry for quick charge or not...
rignfool said:
Uhhh... Guys...
All batteries do that... From the simple Ni-Cad all the way to the more complex li-ion...
Whether it has the circuitry for quick charge or not...
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Agreed - this behavior is due to an unrelated feature called Trickle Charging. This feature reduces the charging current to extend the battery lifespan and isn't limited to devices that have the circuitry for quick charge (as you mentioned, it's not even limited to batteries in mobile devices). We just want to make sure that people understand this feature and why it's important to have the battery level at 80% or less when evaluating chargers.
This feature also appears to be a bit more complex in terms of when it actually affects the charging rate. In our test, the charging power for the Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 did not go down when the battery level reached 80%. We suspect this is either because the Nexus 5 and Nexus 7 circuitry doesn't have the trickle charging technology or because the charging speed (~4W for the Nexus 5 and ~3W Nexus 7) is below a certain threshold, so charging speed is unaffected when the battery level reaches 80%. That's just a hypothesis though - if there's a better explanation, we'd love to hear it!
I wondered my self that question and its seems that general consensus over the internet is no, however i made my own research and i saw there are couple of studies and the truth is - YES, fast charging reduce battery life and maximum cycles it can do. Quote "Charging and discharging Li-ion above 1C reduces service life. Use a slower charge and discharge if possible. This rule applies to most batteries."
So you should not use fast charge on a daily basis and only when you need it urgently. I also would not recommend wireless charging too. Use the good old charging cable. Hope this information is helpful.
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nauvho said:
I wondered my self that question and its seems that general consensus over the internet is no, however i made my own research and i saw there are couple of studies and the truth is - YES, fast charging reduce battery life and maximum cycles it can do. Quote "Charging and discharging Li-ion above 1C reduces service life. Use a slower charge and discharge if possible. This rule applies to most batteries."
So you should not use fast charge on a daily basis and only when you need it urgently. I also would not recommend wireless charging too. Use the good old charging cable. Hope this information is helpful.
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In my opinion of coarse
A cellphone battery is no different than any other battery the slower you charge it the longer it seems to last cycle wize .
Kinda like the deep cycle batteries for marine usage I know lead and lith ion...
But in the automotive world We call a fast charge like this a surface charge.
Which isnt good for long life and or true voltages and or amprages....:crying:
But that aside the extra heat generated by quick charge is in my opin not good either....
Nor the heat from wireless charge.....
others say the heat is negligible vs the shorter time on the charge but again I do not like to quick charge my self as I put it on when I goto bed there is ample time for my device to charge through the night....My battery makes it through the day wonderfully...:good:
I have done a whole lot of battery studies and such and yes it does affect over length of life.
But in the end the battery will fail either way the ions will no longer flow between positive and negative poles and the decay process
started the minute they made the battery
But also you have to decide if you will have the device long enough for it to matter....
As most trade it in for newer or sell online So dont rob yourself of great features either.....:good::good::good:
TheMadScientist said:
In my opinion of coarse
A cellphone battery is no different than any other battery the slower you charge it the longer it seems to last cycle wize .
Kinda like the deep cycle batteries for marine usage I know lead and lith ion...
But in the automotive world We call a fast charge like this a surface charge.
Which isnt good for long life and or true voltages and or amprages....:crying:
But that aside the extra heat generated by quick charge is in my opin not good either....
Nor the heat from wireless charge.....
others say the heat is negligible vs the shorter time on the charge but again I do not like to quick charge my self as I put it on when I goto bed there is ample time for my device to charge through the night....My battery makes it through the day wonderfully...:good:
I have done a whole lot of battery studies and such and yes it does affect over length of life.
But in the end the battery will fail either way the ions will no longer flow between positive and negative poles and the decay process
started the minute they made the battery
But also you have to decide if you will have the device long enough for it to matter....
As most trade it in for newer or sell online So dont rob yourself of great features either.....:good::good::good:
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Totally agree with you, it really depends on the usage and purposes from the user for the device. In general i don't like non removable batteries but unfortunately there is no flagship phones with removable batteries anymore so sad
I have read an very detailed article on batteries and its seems that slow charging between 20 to 80% can greatly improve the battery life, for example assuming you charge your phone once per day (24h) charging it to 80% instead of 100% can improve the battery life from roughly 2 years to 4-5 years which is dramatic difference. See the chart below.
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Also temperature affect battery life tremendously too, chart below.
By the way, is there any app that can monitor Battery and CPU temp and set alarms similar to GSam battery monitor but with option to record full history and backup data in the cloud? I'm curious to see how will my battery hold and change in a year period for example.
Thanks for the infos guys, can only support your opinion. My HTC 10s battery was reduced in performance greatly after 2 years...i charged it every night with HTCs quick charger. So i killed it myself, i just figured it out too late. Now for my S9+ im using a slower 2A charger and only charge it every second night. Hope that will save me some battery life on the long term. Samsungs charger is my mobile option i keep in my backpack if im on the go.
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As long as @pnin believes in Old-school stuff, and he has made for us map for Guides index of poco x3 threads on XDA. I believe too that there is many users not knowing about The battery killer or To be more realistic "killers".
There Is Med-kit stuff you must follow to avoid bad battery life because:
Unhealthy battery = - performance & - life usage
Healthy battery = + performance & + life usage
So, I will set up to you tips that's makes your POCO X3 battery better.
I can be the science man and explain to you all the tips that I will mention it, but I won't just want to be easy on you and get you on the boat.
NOTE: This thread not tellings you how to optimize your rom for better SOT this about take care of your battery life.
As long as we have non-removable "Li-ion" battery, We need to:
1- low voltages is recommended for a battery’s lifespan, According to british university research, charging up your phone in that 30% to 80% range keeps the voltage lower and prolongs the battery lifespan.
2- Never play Games or watching videos while charging is bad because they distort charging cycles.
3- Try to not use your device while charging, and if you can turn it off while charging till get charged enough.
4,1- Don't ever makes your device temperature get higher because it's will kill your battery in long term. there is many ways to get your device temperature higher, such as: play while charging, put device on charging in hot place under pillow or whatever and using wrong bad kernel -_-...etc
4,2- It's recommend to take off your device case while charging, that's help to decrease temperature degree.
5- This device is not flagship device or has an expensive CPU & GPU, so stop playing heavy game with over 60 frame rate for hours ! this bad habit and will kills your battery in long term. when you feels your device get hot stop what you doing till temperature get normal.
6- If you are traveling or storing your device charge it to 80% and leave it switched off but not for more than 5~6 months. and for your knowledge you can store your device for 10 years and your battery can works after because the lithium-ion batteries shalf life 10~12 years.
7- Charge your device from to 100% once a month (UPDATE: NO NEED TO CHARGE FROM 0% TO 100 MONTHLY SINCE WE GO LI-PO BATTERY THIS ACTION ONLY FOR Nickel Cadmium batteries).
Now, maybe you asking "Can I get step back to get my bad battery healthy again ?"
Answer : half yes ! You can't restore the water you droped on sand but you can save the rest that left
Glad to tell me If I had missed something.
Thanks in advance.
regards
any charge limiter that can automatically shut of charging at 80% though the charger cable may stay connected longer period?
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any charge limiter that can automatically shut of charging at 80% though the charger cable may stay connected longer period?
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If I understood you, There is "smart charging" feature on some AOSP roms for poco x3 such as: Arrow os,Pixel extended,...etc
let your device when to stop charging and when to charge. It's really helpful for life spin.
I don't know if this feature same as Pixels phone that lower battery refresh rate or something common. Because there is no explain to how it's really works.
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There are a couple of Magisk modules for that. YMMV.
Valuable Information thanks
From what I have read, a lower charging rate is also important because it prevents heating of the battery, which degrades it. We can achieve this by minimizing the number of times we use the 33W fast charger included in the box. A good C-rate value to charge our phones is 0.4C, in our case for a 5160mAh battery that is charging with a charger rated for 5V and 2A.
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From what I have read, a lower charging rate is also important because it prevents heating of the battery, which degrades it. We can achieve this by minimizing the number of times we use the 33W fast charger included in the box. A good C-rate value to charge our phones is 0.4C, in our case for a 5160mAh battery that is charging with a charger rated for 5V and 2A.
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Thanks for this reach info. Yes it's important but you can't tell the people to replace what they paid for...
We can tell as you showed.
"Don't charge 3 or more times per day"
which I believe hardcore gamers that playing games all the time using they are 33 waat charger for more than 4 times a day.
which it's a killer habit for the battery indeed.
for a normal users one charge would be enough for a full-day.
I'm charging once a day and If I playing for more than 1 hour then day and half to charge.
Abdullah.Csit said:
[...] you can't tell the people to replace what they paid for...
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We all have an older charger laying around from out previous smartphone, just use it whenever you aren't in a hurry. Your graph confirms the huge longevity difference from doing this.
"Don't charge 3 or more times per day"
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No, charge as many times as you need, but limit the range from 30 to 80%.
ema93a said:
We all have an older charger laying around from out previous smartphone, just use it whenever you aren't in a hurry. Your graph confirms the huge longevity difference from doing this.
No, charge as many times as you need, but limit the range from 30 to 80%.
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What I meant that there is a lot of users ( Gamers ) whom always playing (always heating) which they are don't care about temperature and charging a lot per a day will make heating most the time and will end the cycle life as soon as possible .
anyway it's not hard it easy steps and advices.
my regards
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After researching I had changed common habit these days and updated number 7:
"7- Charge your device from to 100% once a month (UPDATE: NO NEED TO CHARGE FROM 0% TO 100 MONTHLY SINCE WE GO LI-PO BATTERY THIS ACTION ONLY FOR Nickel Cadmium batteries)."
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I just picked up a Galaxy S7 and it was taking a long time to charge (20mins only 12%) So, I switch to the charger I have for my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra phone, which has USB-C on both ends, the charger base being USB-C. It went by much faster (but not alarmingly so). This morning I used the Tablet and plugged it back in to charge, and every few mins it makes that sound, accompanied by the on screen notification, that the chargers been plugged in. So far as I can tell its charge well enough, a bit slower than last night. Am I damaging my Tablet?
Also, does anyone else struggle with the the pen staying clipped to the tablet? I have the nib facing the camera, so the magnets should be having direct contact, but 75% of the time I put it down on a surface, the tablet with the pen clipped/magnetized, the pen wants to shift off.
If fast charging engages the device supports it and the charger/cable are compatible with the device.
Fast charging causes more stress on the battery; it's a trade off. I fast charge my N10+'s constantly. My first battery lasted over a year but was subjected to heavy stress. My guess is 1-2 years battery lifespan using fast charging on a heavily used device.
Limit charge range to 20-90%, 40-80% is best for longevity. Li's like frequent midrange power cycling, it reduces the stress on it.
Avoid charge below 72F; best start temp is 82-90F. Fast charging will not engage if start temperature is too low. Low/high temperature charging can cause Li plating.
Stop charging or cool before it reaches 102F.
Do not charge with screen on.
varxtis said:
I just picked up a Galaxy S7 and it was taking a long time to charge (20mins only 12%) So, I switch to the charger I have for my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra phone, which has USB-C on both ends, the charger base being USB-C. It went by much faster (but not alarmingly so). This morning I used the Tablet and plugged it back in to charge, and every few mins it makes that sound, accompanied by the on screen notification, that the chargers been plugged in. So far as I can tell its charge well enough, a bit slower than last night. Am I damaging my Tablet?
Also, does anyone else struggle with the the pen staying clipped to the tablet? I have the nib facing the camera, so the magnets should be having direct contact, but 75% of the time I put it down on a surface, the tablet with the pen clipped/magnetized, the pen wants to shift off.
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Short answer: Yes.
Using the Samsung Note 20 Ultra charger on your Samsung Tab S7 won't cause any problems.
As far as the S Pen, it's supposed to be nib pointed up towards the camera. I have the Samsung keyboard cover which has a compartment that helps keep the S Pen in place. The Samsung book cover stores it in the fold. Third party folio tupe covers usually store it in the fold.
gernerttl said:
Short answer: Yes.
Using the Samsung Note 20 Ultra charger on your Samsung Tab S7 won't cause any problems.
As far as the S Pen, it's supposed to be nib pointed up towards the camera. I have the Samsung keyboard cover which has a compartment that helps keep the S Pen in place. The Samsung book cover stores it in the fold. Third party folio tupe covers usually store it in the fold.
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Sweet, thank you! Will be getting a case very soon.
blackhawk said:
If fast charging engages the device supports it and the charger/cable are compatible with the device.
Fast charging causes more stress on the battery; it's a trade off. I fast charge my N10+'s constantly. My first battery lasted over a year but was subjected to heavy stress. My guess is 1-2 years battery lifespan using fast charging on a heavily used device.
Limit charge range to 20-90%, 40-80% is best for longevity. Li's like frequent midrange power cycling, it reduces the stress on it.
Avoid charge below 72F; best start temp is 82-90F. Fast charging will not engage if start temperature is too low. Low/high temperature charging can cause Li plating.
Stop charging or cool before it reaches 102F.
Do not charge with screen on.
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I woundly have ever guessed that temp would be a variation. Thank you! Is that atmospheric or internal temp? If internal, how would I even know?
varxtis said:
I woundly have ever guessed that temp would be a variation. Thank you! Is that atmospheric or internal temp? If internal, how would I even know?
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Battery temperature. It's an electrochemical reaction and it has a normal and optimal temperature range... especially when it comes to charging. Too low or high a temperature can cause Li plating to occur when charging, permanently degrading the cell. Since charging will auto shutdown if too hot, too low a temperature is more of a threat even if slow charging.
It's shown in battery health in settings or most battery apps will show it as well.
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varxtis said:
I just picked up a Galaxy S7 and it was taking a long time to charge (20mins only 12%) So, I switch to the charger I have for my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra phone, which has USB-C on both ends, the charger base being USB-C. It went by much faster (but not alarmingly so). This morning I used the Tablet and plugged it back in to charge, and every few mins it makes that sound, accompanied by the on screen notification, that the chargers been plugged in. So far as I can tell its charge well enough, a bit slower than last night. Am I damaging my Tablet?
Also, does anyone else struggle with the the pen staying clipped to the tablet? I have the nib facing the camera, so the magnets should be having direct contact, but 75% of the time I put it down on a surface, the tablet with the pen clipped/magnetized, the pen wants to shift off.
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Since Samsung is using Power Delivery PD 3.0 on its devices the S7+ is capable to manage 45w charging.
As I undertand the charger from N20 Ultra its a PD 2.0 25W Rated.
On my case I been using a Xiaomi PD 65W for both my phone S10+ and the Tab S7+ from a year, I have not issues at all.
As mentioned above, is better for battery life charge between 20 - 80 % and at least once a month from 20% to 100% to avoid calibration issues.
The Spen usually tends to slip off if you put the Tablet without case over a surface, this is caused by the Tablet weight and the rounded shape from the Spen.
The Spen has been designed to rest nib face towards the rear camera housing. If you are facing problems with it you should communicate with Samsung for service, in most cases it has no cost on my experience. (visiting a service center).