I just picked up a Galaxy S7 and it was taking a long time to charge (20mins only 12%) So, I switch to the charger I have for my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra phone, which has USB-C on both ends, the charger base being USB-C. It went by much faster (but not alarmingly so). This morning I used the Tablet and plugged it back in to charge, and every few mins it makes that sound, accompanied by the on screen notification, that the chargers been plugged in. So far as I can tell its charge well enough, a bit slower than last night. Am I damaging my Tablet?
Also, does anyone else struggle with the the pen staying clipped to the tablet? I have the nib facing the camera, so the magnets should be having direct contact, but 75% of the time I put it down on a surface, the tablet with the pen clipped/magnetized, the pen wants to shift off.
If fast charging engages the device supports it and the charger/cable are compatible with the device.
Fast charging causes more stress on the battery; it's a trade off. I fast charge my N10+'s constantly. My first battery lasted over a year but was subjected to heavy stress. My guess is 1-2 years battery lifespan using fast charging on a heavily used device.
Limit charge range to 20-90%, 40-80% is best for longevity. Li's like frequent midrange power cycling, it reduces the stress on it.
Avoid charge below 72F; best start temp is 82-90F. Fast charging will not engage if start temperature is too low. Low/high temperature charging can cause Li plating.
Stop charging or cool before it reaches 102F.
Do not charge with screen on.
varxtis said:
I just picked up a Galaxy S7 and it was taking a long time to charge (20mins only 12%) So, I switch to the charger I have for my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra phone, which has USB-C on both ends, the charger base being USB-C. It went by much faster (but not alarmingly so). This morning I used the Tablet and plugged it back in to charge, and every few mins it makes that sound, accompanied by the on screen notification, that the chargers been plugged in. So far as I can tell its charge well enough, a bit slower than last night. Am I damaging my Tablet?
Also, does anyone else struggle with the the pen staying clipped to the tablet? I have the nib facing the camera, so the magnets should be having direct contact, but 75% of the time I put it down on a surface, the tablet with the pen clipped/magnetized, the pen wants to shift off.
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Short answer: Yes.
Using the Samsung Note 20 Ultra charger on your Samsung Tab S7 won't cause any problems.
As far as the S Pen, it's supposed to be nib pointed up towards the camera. I have the Samsung keyboard cover which has a compartment that helps keep the S Pen in place. The Samsung book cover stores it in the fold. Third party folio tupe covers usually store it in the fold.
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Short answer: Yes.
Using the Samsung Note 20 Ultra charger on your Samsung Tab S7 won't cause any problems.
As far as the S Pen, it's supposed to be nib pointed up towards the camera. I have the Samsung keyboard cover which has a compartment that helps keep the S Pen in place. The Samsung book cover stores it in the fold. Third party folio tupe covers usually store it in the fold.
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Sweet, thank you! Will be getting a case very soon.
blackhawk said:
If fast charging engages the device supports it and the charger/cable are compatible with the device.
Fast charging causes more stress on the battery; it's a trade off. I fast charge my N10+'s constantly. My first battery lasted over a year but was subjected to heavy stress. My guess is 1-2 years battery lifespan using fast charging on a heavily used device.
Limit charge range to 20-90%, 40-80% is best for longevity. Li's like frequent midrange power cycling, it reduces the stress on it.
Avoid charge below 72F; best start temp is 82-90F. Fast charging will not engage if start temperature is too low. Low/high temperature charging can cause Li plating.
Stop charging or cool before it reaches 102F.
Do not charge with screen on.
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I woundly have ever guessed that temp would be a variation. Thank you! Is that atmospheric or internal temp? If internal, how would I even know?
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I woundly have ever guessed that temp would be a variation. Thank you! Is that atmospheric or internal temp? If internal, how would I even know?
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Battery temperature. It's an electrochemical reaction and it has a normal and optimal temperature range... especially when it comes to charging. Too low or high a temperature can cause Li plating to occur when charging, permanently degrading the cell. Since charging will auto shutdown if too hot, too low a temperature is more of a threat even if slow charging.
It's shown in battery health in settings or most battery apps will show it as well.
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I just picked up a Galaxy S7 and it was taking a long time to charge (20mins only 12%) So, I switch to the charger I have for my Galaxy Note 20 Ultra phone, which has USB-C on both ends, the charger base being USB-C. It went by much faster (but not alarmingly so). This morning I used the Tablet and plugged it back in to charge, and every few mins it makes that sound, accompanied by the on screen notification, that the chargers been plugged in. So far as I can tell its charge well enough, a bit slower than last night. Am I damaging my Tablet?
Also, does anyone else struggle with the the pen staying clipped to the tablet? I have the nib facing the camera, so the magnets should be having direct contact, but 75% of the time I put it down on a surface, the tablet with the pen clipped/magnetized, the pen wants to shift off.
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Since Samsung is using Power Delivery PD 3.0 on its devices the S7+ is capable to manage 45w charging.
As I undertand the charger from N20 Ultra its a PD 2.0 25W Rated.
On my case I been using a Xiaomi PD 65W for both my phone S10+ and the Tab S7+ from a year, I have not issues at all.
As mentioned above, is better for battery life charge between 20 - 80 % and at least once a month from 20% to 100% to avoid calibration issues.
The Spen usually tends to slip off if you put the Tablet without case over a surface, this is caused by the Tablet weight and the rounded shape from the Spen.
The Spen has been designed to rest nib face towards the rear camera housing. If you are facing problems with it you should communicate with Samsung for service, in most cases it has no cost on my experience. (visiting a service center).
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why doesn't the battery charge while it is plugged in while I'm watching a movie or talking to somebody online it's ridiculous amber light never turned green only when it sitting idle
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Most likely because what you're doing, especially the movies is drawing more power than what's actually being pumped into the battery. Get battery monitor widget by "3c" in the market. Very very detailed info about your battery. Ish you never even thought about/existed. Haha. Its very helpful.
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How is it being charged? USB or AC... The answer is important, as USB only charges half as fast as AC.
Regardless, the reason is that if you are using the phone heavily, you are using a lot of power. If you are using a lot of power, you may be using all or almost all of the power coming from the charger just to operate the phone.
I have seen power use rates when using the phone heavily that are around 700mA, that is more than the 500mA that you get when charging via USB, and almost as much as the 1000mA that AC provides.
Heck, I have seen power use rates that are up to 1100mA a few times. That is higher than even the AC input.
Here is a screen shot of my charging over the last 12 days. I have NEVER gotten 1k+ (results may vary. As to why, stated in the following) you can see on the bottom screen the max mA peeked at 972. USB doesn't charge at "half" the mA as wall chargers. I thought that too, but did some tests (while VERY bored at work. Haha) and have seen 600 to around 800 mA. It varies on a number of things.
Ie: the USB cord itself. As some are designed for data only or faster transfer rates rather that charging taking priority. (charging light may be on, but thats just because it knows somethings plugged in. Or you could just have a Bonk one. They're are MANY different USB cables today.
The phones kernel, because you'll notice when the phone is damn near dead, USB or wall, will charge at a higher mA and fluctuate at different battery percentages.
A good/stock kernel will charge super fast when battery is very low to get you somewhat charged quickly. Then in the upper percentages it should slow way down especially in the high 90%'s to effectively complete/finish out the charge rather than just throwing rediculous power into the battery across the whole process. Also what other stuff you may have turned on, on the phone like "enable always on mobile data" may be detrimental. Hope this helps man.
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Here is a screen shot of my charging over the last 12 days. I have NEVER gotten 1k+ (results may vary. As to why, stated in the following) you can see on the bottom screen the max mA peeked at 972. USB doesn't charge at "half" the mA as wall chargers. I thought that too, but did some tests (while VERY bored at work. Haha) and have seen 600 to around 800 mA. It varies on a number of things.
Ie: the USB cord itself. As some are designed for data only or faster transfer rates rather that charging taking priority. (charging light may be on, but thats just because it knows somethings plugged in. Or you could just have a Bonk one. They're are MANY different USB cables today.
The phones kernel, because you'll notice when the phone is damn near dead, USB or wall, will charge at a higher mA and fluctuate at different battery percentages.
A good/stock kernel will charge super fast when battery is very low to get you somewhat charged quickly. Then in the upper percentages it should slow way down especially in the high 90%'s to effectively complete/finish out the charge rather than just throwing rediculous power into the battery across the whole process. Also what other stuff you may have turned on, on the phone like "enable always on mobile data" may be detrimental. Hope this helps man. View attachment 895606
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It was only a few times I noticed the power use that high.
USB can vary, but general rule is 500mA can be counted on as that is the max that the standard provides.
All charge rates will vary. The main problem is the fact that we usually charge a device that is powered on. The varied power use will cause fluctuations in charge rate.
I need to research more into how Li-Ion charges when the device is still in use. I do know how they charge when not in use, and all the little details of it. The biggest problem is that powered on really messes with how a Li-Ion battery can charge.
I need to get out my stand alone computerized Li-Ion battery charger and do some testing. I have been wondering exactly how much these batteries hold if actually charged properly. Too bad that the Stock OEM batteries are 3.8v nominal, they charge to a higher overall voltage and my charger is not set up to handle the new voltage so I couldn't charge the stock to a real 100%.
if u charge by AC with a 1000 mA you should be fine
Are you watching the movie on your phone or do you have it connected to a TV? The screen being on will draw a lot of power I believe.
Always always wall charged; only used USB to adb stuff never let it charge via usb
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If you're charging by USB, forget it.
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I recently switched to the Galaxy Note from the Xperia Play... I've noticed that with full charge, my Note gets around 5-6 hours of battery life after medium to heavy usage.. I was wondering if this is the norm for most of you guys? I have my screen dim and I usually turn wifi, bluetooth, and GPS off when not in use...
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I recently switched to the Galaxy Note from the Xperia Play... I've noticed that with full charge, my Note gets around 5-6 hours of battery life after medium to heavy usage.. I was wondering if this is the norm for most of you guys? I have my screen dim and I usually turn wifi, bluetooth, and GPS off when not in use...
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Mine is fantastic. All day easily even overclocked to 1.83. I'm rooted, Saurom, bloatware removed.
This was like the 2nd or third day I had mine. Lots of tweaking and setting up and "Oh yeah, I forgot about that app". Also over an hour of voice calling, 100 or so texts, and Google Listen to and from work (around 45 minutes total).
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39% after 11 hours of fairly heavy use.
Edit - That is also rooted/rom'ed/overclocked.
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I recently switched to the Galaxy Note from the Xperia Play... I've noticed that with full charge, my Note gets around 5-6 hours of battery life after medium to heavy usage.. I was wondering if this is the norm for most of you guys? I have my screen dim and I usually turn wifi, bluetooth, and GPS off when not in use...
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Mine is fantastic 22 hours and heavy use 3-4 hours display time at 50%, 200 emails.
Download CPU Spy from the Market and see if your phone is going into Deep Sleep (known and documented issue). If not search for deep sleep follow the steps and enjoy awesome battery life..
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Mine is fantastic 22 hours and heavy use 3-4 hours display time at 50%, 200 emails.
Download CPU Spy from the Market and see if your phone is going into Deep Sleep (known and documented issue). If not search for deep sleep follow the steps and enjoy awesome battery life..
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Thanks I'll definitely check that out right now..
Mine is great - been unplugged for 7 hours already, and with moderate use it's at 72%.
phone is decent over the course of a day but I notice that battery drain is pretty severe when the screen is on. I leave it on auto brightness so I'm sure I can save juice reducing to minimum as much as possible but that makes my phone less than ideal. I need it to automatically work and not having to fiddle with brightness just because I stepped outside.
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Mine is great - been unplugged for 7 hours already, and with moderate use it's at 72%.
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What's your definition of moderate? While I don't doubt that you're experiencing solid batt life, terms like "good" and "bad" and "moderate" are SUPER subjective, and because no two phones are truly the same (as are no two coverage areas), I'd really be interested to know how you qualify the way you use the phone.
Not breaking stones here, just saying that you might possibly hold the world Note record for best battery life if you really are using the phone for more than just a minute or two here and there, and for more than just text, email and the occassional website or P2P word game and in a solid coverage area (not WiFi)....
Please advise-
Ryan
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flintdragon said:
phone is decent over the course of a day but I notice that battery drain is pretty severe when the screen is on. I leave it on auto brightness so I'm sure I can save juice reducing to minimum as much as possible but that makes my phone less than ideal. I need it to automatically work and not having to fiddle with brightness just because I stepped outside.
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same with me....
Earthdog said:
Mine is fantastic 22 hours and heavy use 3-4 hours display time at 50%, 200 emails.
Download CPU Spy from the Market and see if your phone is going into Deep Sleep (known and documented issue). If not search for deep sleep follow the steps and enjoy awesome battery life..
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Sounds like I have to check this out.
Is anyone getting battery drain while charging in the car while using the GPS?
I'm using the stock rom, with the overclock kernel but the cpu isn't touched as far as overclocking is concerned. I wasn't sure if it was the overclock or not... and its not the overclock. Anyone else have this issue?
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Sounds like I have to check this out.
Is anyone getting battery drain while charging in the car while using the GPS?
I'm using the stock rom, with the overclock kernel but the cpu isn't touched as far as overclocking is concerned. I wasn't sure if it was the overclock or not... and its not the overclock. Anyone else have this issue?
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What kind of car charger are you using?
Turn off wifi when the screen is off automatically; go into your wifi settings, hit MENU, then choose 'advanced' and go into 'WiFi Sleep Policy.'
Set it to when your screen turns off, or alternatively 'Never when plugged in.'
If you normally leave Wifi on and you drive a lot (say, to work), you're constantly scanning WiFi signals. This will cut that out.
It's made my LG Thrill quite a bit more usable, and the Note went from good to great battery life.
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What kind of car charger are you using?
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A dual USB cigarette lighter adapter, and using my data cable. It worked fine with my old Captivate without draining it.
wireless almost has no effect on battery. and if any of you is interested in a good car charger, here you have a deal Roadpro 100W DC to AC Power Inverter http://mobile.dailysteals.com/
Download CPU Spy from the Market and see if your phone is going into Deep Sleep (known and documented issue). If not search for deep sleep follow the steps and enjoy awesome battery life..[/QUOTE]
What steps? cant find the info!!!
Downloaded cpu spy, see the results but dont know what to do next..
Mine is showing 69% in deep sleep
Is it ok . If not how can i correct this.
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wireless almost has no effect on battery. and if any of you is interested in a good car charger, here you have a deal Roadpro 100W DC to AC Power Inverter http://mobile.dailysteals.com/
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Let me see if I can find a high end AC to USB charger adapter. I need two, my iPod battery is dead and it needs power to turn on for longer than 10 minutes.
That is a steal though, that's a REALLY good price for that. I, however, already have a dual AC 400 Watt adapter. I am just trying to make it as simple as possible.
EDIT: I found something that I am going to order, and hope for the best.
http://www.scosche.com/consumer-tech/product/2318?gclid=CJLJsZSU9q4CFQ7sKgodfUk2Mw
It has 2.1A across each usb port. I know for a fact that my dinky little $10 usb adapter that I got, does not pull that. I will test with a multimeter before I go ahead and order this, but I can imagine if the USB is 500mAH or less, that's exactly why I am having this issue.
I'll post more info tonight or tomorrow.
I got a Scosche portable battery charger. It came with a special usb adapter that fools the Note into high current charge mode (960mah). Unless pins 2 and 3 are shorted, the Note will not accept more than 500 mah from even a 2.1 A usb port.
You can modify a usb cable to do this but I use the Scosche adapter that came with my battery 5000 mah to charge Galaxy TABs.
If it supports the Galaxy TAB, I presume that it will support the Note.
Ipaqman01 said:
I got a Scosche portable battery charger. It came with a special usb adapter that fools the Note into high current charge mode (960mah). Unless pins 2 and 3 are shorted, the Note will not accept more than 500 mah from even a 2.1 A usb port.
You can modify a usb cable to do this but I use the Scosche adapter that came with my battery 5000 mah to charge Galaxy TABs.
If it supports the Galaxy TAB, I presume that it will support the Note.
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I just did a bit of research after reading this, and soldered pins 2 and 3 together on my griffin jolt duo. Works like a champ now
Thank you
Decent use. Enough for me
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Best usage out of my phone was 13 hours off charger with 6 hours of screen time.
Check my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23560201&postcount=54
My battery life was great until I started using kindle app at work. Cant even make a whole day now with screen using majority of battery.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
In 30 minutes of charge (with the Fast Adaptive Charger in the box) I got from 8% to 37% (from there to 100% it would have taken me another hour and 9 minutes according to the phone).
Kind of slow, to be honest. I know it's a bigger battery, but still...
(I also tried a Motorola QuickCharger 2.0 and it recognized it as a fast charger, but the results were the same)
Yeah not that quick tbh
Nothing wrong with that. 37% can get you 3 hours of constant use..
My fast charger isn't quite right I suppose. Di I need to turn something on. This is with the charger right out of the box.
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Using a charger from my S5 way only a little more than an hour.
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I'm having charging issues with my S7 Edge. I received it last night and did a micro USB data transfer from my Galaxy Note 5. It took a couple of hours but the GN5 went from 75% battery to 71%. My S7E went from 57% to 27% and it was charging wirelessly. I've got it plugged into my laptop to charge right now and the device is draining while I'm using it. Any advice on what might be going wrong? I don't think it's the cable. I've got a fast charger but the outlet at my desk at work is behind me so I can't check my phone while it's plugged in.
So I just tried the Fast Charging again -> 1 hour (60 minutes) = +67% (from 4% to 71%)
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge with it's original Adaptive Fast Charger from the box.
Yeah it charges pretty slow, I wonder if samsung can enable quick charge 3.0
Are you guys for real.
IPhone 6plus has a 2950mah and takes about 4 hours to charge. S7 edge has 3600mah and takes around 1 hour and 57 mind to fully charge.
Charger is pretty fast for the size of the battery, but my issue is that my battery is draining fast while in use. Thought Android "M" had this Doze Mode,
well even when not in use, it still sucks down battery like a long distance runner in a heat wave. basically to make your battery last you can make a call or 2. someone invent a SMART BATTERY. or a phone that runs on gravity
I have the samsung fast wireless charger and it doesn't charge fast. If I plug in the cable it says fast charging. If I put on the fast charger is just says charging. I did some research and they said in the battery settings there was a way to enable fast charging for cable and wireless charging... I only found it for the cable... Thoughts or ideas?
About 100 mins from 0 to 100 with included charger. Disappointed because it doesn't have QC3.0 when even a $400 midrange phone (the A9) will have it soon. I'll be even more disappointed if other sd820 phones have qc3.0.
So i tried charging today with my Motorola Turbo Charger (Quick Charge 2.0) and in 30 minutes it went from 9% to 43%, that means +34%.
Curiously, with the Samsung Fast Adaptive Charger from the box in 30 minutes of charge I got a 29% (from 8% to 37%).
I have the S7 Edge Exynos version.
can anyone try using iClever BoostCube 24W Quick Charge 3.0 to charge, its a 24w beast
http://www.amazon.com/iClever-BoostCube-Compatible-Charger-Foldable/dp/B019GQ6S2C
for me, 130 min from 5% to 100% with wireless fast charger (10W)....
On my 10w wireless charger I'm taking about 2H: 30m.. thats with the Samsung fast charger.. I have a 18w qc 2.0 that I should get today and will see if I can get a little better
I just did a side by side charge between my S5 and new S7 Edge on their stock chargers.
S5 started at 23%
S7E started at 26%
1hr 15min later...
S5 ended at 97%
S7E ended at 100%
So these two phones have identical charge times. Both phones had all apps closed.
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I just did a side by side charge between my S5 and new S7 Edge on their stock chargers.
S5 started at 23%
S7E started at 26%
1hr 15min later...
S5 ended at 97%
S7E ended at 100%
So these two phones have identical charge times. Both phones had all apps closed.
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S5 has a 2800mha battery s7 edge has a 3600mha battery.
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S5 has a 2800mha battery s7 edge has a 3600mha battery.
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As above s7E has an extra 800mah, should of tested from 0-100 butbut either way the s7E charged more battery In the same about of time.
Maybe I'm just a noob at the fast charging thing but this phone charges pretty fast to me. Coming from the LG G3 and have a battery extender of 9000 mlh. I like this battery charge !
There seems a lot more heat generated by the device compared to the 25w. Is this normal or will it degrade the battery over time?
If you're using your phone while charging and it's heating up with 45w that's normal. You just don't want to overheat the battery where it explodes.
Just use the 25w charger for safety. You don't need a note 7 situation
It happens because you are charging at a higher rate. The funny thing is that with the 45W charger, you are only charging at 30-32W at most (from 0% to ~60%, after that it decreases to the same as the stock charger), compared to the 23-25W of the standard charger. The heat can cause accelerated wear on the battery, so there is not much benefit in using the 45W charger. The only time I find it useful is when I don't have time and need to pump in 10-20% before I leave the house.
Try not going below 40% or charging beyond 80%, 90% max.
Periodically charge through most of the range and at different percentages to avoid a known Li memory effect.
LI's love short, frequent charges; you can glean hundreds, even thousands more full charge cycles by doing this.
•Do not charge if battery temp below freezing!!!
•Best battery temp is above 80F to avoid Li plating which permanently degrades the cell.
•Limit charge max temp to 101 F, much above this will slow the charge. Use air or a damp microfiber cloth to reduce temp. If you limit the charge to between say 45-65% it will charge fast and cool.
Li's degrade faster from high temp and high cell voltage.
You can easily control cell voltage not charging over 80%, 65% is optimum for longevity.
20% charge in this range takes 10 minutes and should be good for about 2 hours.
•Do not use the phone while charging as it disrupts the charge cycle and it will charge much slower.
So take a 10 minute break and give your battery a break too...
blackhawk said:
Try not going below 40% or charging beyond 80%, 90% max.
Periodically charge through most of the range and at different percentages to avoid a known Li memory effect.
LI's love short, frequent charges; you can glean hundreds, even thousands more full charge cycles by doing this.
•Do not charge if battery temp below freezing!!!
•Best battery temp is above 80F to avoid Li plating which permanently degrades the cell.
•Limit charge max temp to 101 F, much above this will slow the charge. Use air or a damp microfiber cloth to reduce temp. If you limit the charge to between say 45-65% it will charge fast and cool.
Li's degrade faster from high temp and high cell voltage.
You can easily control cell voltage not charging over 80%, 65% is optimum for longevity.
20% charge in this range takes 10 minutes and should be good for about 2 hours.
•Do not use the phone while charging as it disrupts the charge cycle and it will charge much slower.
So take a 10 minute break and give your battery a break too...
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Information all very well and good, BUT, the S20 range are not fitted with Lithium Ion batteries, they are fitted with Lithium Polymer (LiPo) which don't suffer memory effect.
jonboi said:
Information all very well and good, BUT, the S20 range are not fitted with Lithium Ion batteries, they are fitted with Lithium Polymer (LiPo) which don't suffer memory effect.
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My bad... you are correct.
Good news; all the more reason to good with short midrange partial charge cycles
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/tswj/2015/979321/
Accubattery app does a great job helping me extend battery life. It lets me get an alert at my chosen preset charge level so that I can stop at, say, 80%. While it's not intrusive, forcing me to learn all the minutia, it monitors more than charger state, but also battery wear condition, how much battery wear each particular charge session is putting on it. Each app screen helps educate me on how's and why's of best practices for battery longevity, with dynamic data on my practices over time. I highly recommend it. Free and premium versions; only costs about $4 - $5 one-time.
PS: Stay with me here... 1 week now w/my S20+ is my first Sammy since S4, and am shocked to learn that Bixby Routines are awesome (in spite of basic Bixby redundancy with Google Assistant)- I've been a fan of automated Routines with my phones for years, and I set up a Bixby Routine to run Accubattery as soon as phone begins charging, and the app gives me alerts when I've hit 80% so I can shut it down. (I have created a few other choice Routines since)
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Accubattery app does a great job helping me extend battery life. It lets me get an alert at my chosen preset charge level so that I can stop at, say, 80%. While it's not intrusive, forcing me to learn all the minutia, it monitors more than charger state, but also battery wear condition, how much battery wear each particular charge session is putting on it. Each app screen helps educate me on how's and why's of best practices for battery longevity, with dynamic data on my practices over time. I highly recommend it. Free and premium versions; only costs about $4 - $5 one-time.
PS: Stay with me here... 1 week now w/my S20+ is my first Sammy since S4, and am shocked to learn that Bixby Routines are awesome (in spite of basic Bixby redundancy with Google Assistant)- I've been a fan of automated Routines with my phones for years, and I set up a Bixby Routine to run Accubattery as soon as phone begins charging, and the app gives me alerts when I've hit 80% so I can shut it down. (I have created a few other choice Routines since)View attachment 5184931
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Accubattery runs in the background so the battery % charge alarm works even if the app isn't open and the screen is off.
However I'm running on Pie ... Q isn't as friendly.
blackhawk said:
Accubattery runs in the background so the battery % charge alarm works even if the app isn't open and the screen is off.
However I'm running on Pie ... Q isn't as friendly.
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Try app settings menu/tips and help/"disable task killer detection". Turn on that switch. So far no killing of the app for me!
PS: I'm on Android 11, One UI 3.0, T-Mobile install.
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Try app settings menu/tips and help/"disable task killer detection". Turn on that switch. So far no killing of the app for me!
PS: I'm on Android 11, One UI 3.0, T-Mobile install.
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Same here. Plus on Pie (at least) the milliamp screen overlay works.
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As long as @pnin believes in Old-school stuff, and he has made for us map for Guides index of poco x3 threads on XDA. I believe too that there is many users not knowing about The battery killer or To be more realistic "killers".
There Is Med-kit stuff you must follow to avoid bad battery life because:
Unhealthy battery = - performance & - life usage
Healthy battery = + performance & + life usage
So, I will set up to you tips that's makes your POCO X3 battery better.
I can be the science man and explain to you all the tips that I will mention it, but I won't just want to be easy on you and get you on the boat.
NOTE: This thread not tellings you how to optimize your rom for better SOT this about take care of your battery life.
As long as we have non-removable "Li-ion" battery, We need to:
1- low voltages is recommended for a battery’s lifespan, According to british university research, charging up your phone in that 30% to 80% range keeps the voltage lower and prolongs the battery lifespan.
2- Never play Games or watching videos while charging is bad because they distort charging cycles.
3- Try to not use your device while charging, and if you can turn it off while charging till get charged enough.
4,1- Don't ever makes your device temperature get higher because it's will kill your battery in long term. there is many ways to get your device temperature higher, such as: play while charging, put device on charging in hot place under pillow or whatever and using wrong bad kernel -_-...etc
4,2- It's recommend to take off your device case while charging, that's help to decrease temperature degree.
5- This device is not flagship device or has an expensive CPU & GPU, so stop playing heavy game with over 60 frame rate for hours ! this bad habit and will kills your battery in long term. when you feels your device get hot stop what you doing till temperature get normal.
6- If you are traveling or storing your device charge it to 80% and leave it switched off but not for more than 5~6 months. and for your knowledge you can store your device for 10 years and your battery can works after because the lithium-ion batteries shalf life 10~12 years.
7- Charge your device from to 100% once a month (UPDATE: NO NEED TO CHARGE FROM 0% TO 100 MONTHLY SINCE WE GO LI-PO BATTERY THIS ACTION ONLY FOR Nickel Cadmium batteries).
Now, maybe you asking "Can I get step back to get my bad battery healthy again ?"
Answer : half yes ! You can't restore the water you droped on sand but you can save the rest that left
Glad to tell me If I had missed something.
Thanks in advance.
regards
any charge limiter that can automatically shut of charging at 80% though the charger cable may stay connected longer period?
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any charge limiter that can automatically shut of charging at 80% though the charger cable may stay connected longer period?
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If I understood you, There is "smart charging" feature on some AOSP roms for poco x3 such as: Arrow os,Pixel extended,...etc
let your device when to stop charging and when to charge. It's really helpful for life spin.
I don't know if this feature same as Pixels phone that lower battery refresh rate or something common. Because there is no explain to how it's really works.
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There are a couple of Magisk modules for that. YMMV.
Valuable Information thanks
From what I have read, a lower charging rate is also important because it prevents heating of the battery, which degrades it. We can achieve this by minimizing the number of times we use the 33W fast charger included in the box. A good C-rate value to charge our phones is 0.4C, in our case for a 5160mAh battery that is charging with a charger rated for 5V and 2A.
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From what I have read, a lower charging rate is also important because it prevents heating of the battery, which degrades it. We can achieve this by minimizing the number of times we use the 33W fast charger included in the box. A good C-rate value to charge our phones is 0.4C, in our case for a 5160mAh battery that is charging with a charger rated for 5V and 2A.
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Thanks for this reach info. Yes it's important but you can't tell the people to replace what they paid for...
We can tell as you showed.
"Don't charge 3 or more times per day"
which I believe hardcore gamers that playing games all the time using they are 33 waat charger for more than 4 times a day.
which it's a killer habit for the battery indeed.
for a normal users one charge would be enough for a full-day.
I'm charging once a day and If I playing for more than 1 hour then day and half to charge.
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[...] you can't tell the people to replace what they paid for...
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We all have an older charger laying around from out previous smartphone, just use it whenever you aren't in a hurry. Your graph confirms the huge longevity difference from doing this.
"Don't charge 3 or more times per day"
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No, charge as many times as you need, but limit the range from 30 to 80%.
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We all have an older charger laying around from out previous smartphone, just use it whenever you aren't in a hurry. Your graph confirms the huge longevity difference from doing this.
No, charge as many times as you need, but limit the range from 30 to 80%.
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What I meant that there is a lot of users ( Gamers ) whom always playing (always heating) which they are don't care about temperature and charging a lot per a day will make heating most the time and will end the cycle life as soon as possible .
anyway it's not hard it easy steps and advices.
my regards
Thread Updated!
After researching I had changed common habit these days and updated number 7:
"7- Charge your device from to 100% once a month (UPDATE: NO NEED TO CHARGE FROM 0% TO 100 MONTHLY SINCE WE GO LI-PO BATTERY THIS ACTION ONLY FOR Nickel Cadmium batteries)."
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