The phone doesn't seem to support DEX mode OOTB, but can it be added via e.g. sideload or software update later on? Any news about this?
I don't think it's possible via software - it has USB-C version 2.0
Nope, I can confirm that there is NO HDMI out on this phone at all and as such no DEX. If this is a feature you require I'd suggest you go for one of the regular S10s.
Chris
Is this a hardware limitation or blocked by samsung with software? I was looking forward to dex experience, they should push it as hard as they can, get you hooked on a great system is key to success. I do not know the extra costs, if any to make it work but DEX should be pushed as the future. Because it is.
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Is it true that Samsung removed USB OTG Host capability from latest firmwares?
"DSLRcontroller" requires USB host and developer is suggesting that Samsung removed the feature.
http://dslrcontroller.com/devices.php
https://market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.dslrcontroller
Could anyone try or disagree?
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Is it true that Samsung removed USB OTG Host capability from latest firmwares?
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Why would you doubt Chainfire?
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/103/_SGS2_KI_Samsung_removes_USB_host_support_patches_bootloaders/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1202082
Any official response from Samsung about WHY did they remove the feature that existed on previous 2.3 ROMS?
Is this true ???
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I understood it was this:
USB OTG still works (technically) for "identified devices"; those devices being flash drives (and by extensions also usb card readers which appear as flash drives), mouse and keyboard. "Unidentified Devices" ie your DSLR will not activate in the newer firmwares. If Samsung didn't specifically add the device's USB id to their "whitelist" of approved devices, it will not activate. My guess is certain unsupported devices may have been causing issues with the phone?? Not quite sure, but this is the cause of this app not working on the newer firmwares. Before now, any usb otg would work in the sense that the phone would connect and form a link with it, even if it didn't necessarily know what to do with it (be it a webcam, dslr, etc) which is again what we need for this dslr program to work.
Maybe an answer could be to locate and modify the whitelist? My guess is that might be the easiest solution (speaking as a non-developer...)
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the way I understood it was this:
USB OTG still works (technically) for "identified devices"; those devices being flash drives (and by extensions also usb card readers which appear as flash drives), mouse and keyboard. "Unidentified Devices" ie your DSLR will not activate in the newer firmwares. If Samsung didn't specifically add the device's USB id to their "whitelist" of approved devices, it will not activate. My guess is certain unsupported devices may have been causing issues with the phone?? Not quite sure, but this is the cause of this app not working on the newer firmwares. Before now, any usb otg would work in the sense that the phone would connect and form a link with it, even if it didn't necessarily know what to do with it (be it a webcam, dslr, etc) which is again what we need for this dslr program to work.
Maybe an answer could be to locate and modify the whitelist? My guess is that might be the easiest solution (speaking as a non-developer...)
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Hey,
I am not an expert on this, but I belive that your statement is just partially true.
I just encounterd the same problem, i.e. usb-devices such as mouse, usb-stick, etc are properly supported BUT my own application would not run on my SGS2 (running KI1/KI1/KI1).
The application doesn't try to establish a connection to any unsupported device whatsoever (i.e. it just queries the number of connected usb-devices). Hence there is no special requirement for this application except the presence of the USB Host API, but this application crashes just like any other application which requires USB HOST (e.g. DSLRController).
Best
Hello XDA Developers!
tl;dr I need either a solid, light OS replacement for Android 2.3 on my Atrix, or I need a video streaming and virtualization app with no lag that works between android devices and either windows or linux desktop.
First I'd like to say how impressed I am with you folks. Massive amounts of work most be done on a regular basis, and so I tip my hat to you in thanks for looking at my potential problem/question.
I've got two devices that I'd like to make some serious software changes to, one of them my Atrix (the other is a Flytouch Tablet ARM11 with Android 2.3, but that's for a different forum). Let me start by saying that I like to think of myself as very technically literate, but when it comes to linux I just don't have nearly as much experience as I do with windows/mac, and it is about to really show.
What I want to do is load a light Linux OS on these devices. Normally, if I was going to install a new windows kernel on a machine I would copy an ISO to a USB thumb drive and make the drive bootable (using the MS program Windows 7 USB/DVD maker), then startup the PC and either through the BIOS or by hitting the proper button during the startup sequence I would ask the PC to boot into the drive and begin the installation.
Questions:
What is the image file type for mobile OS's?
How would one choose the right type of linux OS for an Atrix?
What is the difference between flashing a ROM and installing and OS?
Why is it when I updated my phone recently that it became unrooted?
(and) Is there any way to revert this process to make rooting easier?
Is there any way to capture a video output (like a stream) and broadcast it to these mobile devices so I can avoid changing their software alltogether?
(and) Could I just remotely control another PC from the mobile device, letting it do all the actual computing?
Can I use the Webtop Dock as a monitor for my desktop if I can find the proper HDMI cable to connect it to the HDMI output on my desktop video card?
(and) Can I also connect the Micro USB and use the keyboard/mouse (hooked into my desktop motherboard) on it as well?
(and finally) Can I use my Atrix as a prototype omni-tool by docking it in a docking station, attaching various tools that work with a linux operating system (wide-spectrum ultrasound imaging, temperature monitors, vital monitors, electronic laser saw (USB) (with separate power attachment of course) and extendable, movable USB cameras?) and then strapping it onto my wrist with a cool leather bracer design?
My end-goal is to have all three of these devices on the same network, with the ability to seamlessly access my data between them. For example, if I'm working on a document, I'd like to be able to access the document in a document editing program across all the platforms (imagine google docs with multiple users) however with one MAJOR stipulation: I'll be on a local network with NO INTERNET ACCESS!
Briefly (to better help you understand just what I'm trying to do) I am a freelance archaeologist/deep sea explorer/ROV tinkerer about to do a series of surveys mostly by myself in some VERY remote locations. I'll have a Wi-Fi network to link all of my devices together running out of my boat, but it's only for data sharing between each other, and since Satellite Internet is a joke, I can't think of any way to get data out there, and I've decided to live without it while I'm away.
I have a webtop dock for my Atrix, and the environment developed by Motorola is far too restrictive. I've tried countless fixes to try and get the webtop2SD to work, but I must be doing something wrong (Maybe the latest update screwed it?). I think since I'd like to use some linux applications while on the mobile devices, I would rather install a custom OS for both.
OR (preffered)
Even more simply, I'd like to stream the video feed and remotely control my desktop PC (located on the boat) on the mobile devices, but with yet another stipulation: I can't have FPS lag (I usually get 1-2 FPS with all the virtualization and remote control apps I've tried). This would in some senses be the preferred option, since I really don't want to spend oodles of hours trying to get some program to work in a difficult, restricted environment like these mobile device's current OS's. Is there a good, non-lagging version of desktop virtualization for Android OS?
About that webdock: I can't seem to find a female-to-female micro HDMI cable anywhere on the internet, thought I did find one Micro HDMI extension cable, and bought it promptly. I could buy another, but cut the male ends off and splice the female parts together (**** just got kinky). But if I could, would this work?
Phew that was a lot! Again thanks so much for thinking for me!
I've personally never found any kind of remote desktop software that works without lag, but it might be possible to find some. Someone else might know what to tell you there.
After doing some basic searching, the only collaborative document solution that I've found has been Etherpad Lite. You could set up a desktop or laptop running linux as the server, and all the other devices on your small network could (theoretically) run a browser based client similar (but far less advanced) than Google Docs. This way, everything on your LAN/WLAN could access the application, if it's stout enough to support your needs.
https://github.com/Pita/etherpad-lite
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collab...Real-time_collaborative_text_editing_software
Everything you're looking for just seems to be limited for Android, I wish you the best of luck.
I have always found Teamviewer great for remote PC control from my Atrix. They have a nice app and free license for home/personal use. I get minimal lag controlling my PC at home when at work, but that's over WiFi. Not very fast and pretty laggy if I am on data with my Atrix.
BTW............I can work on documents, transfer files to and from PC's and laptops, print documents on my wireless printer, etc. across my home network from my Atrix, all routed through a Netgear WNR3500L running stock firmware (dd-wrt actually slowed my network down and reduced WiFi range considerably, so I reverted to stock).
First, there is no "magic" within the lapdock device. It is a nice HDMI screen, a couple crappy input devices on the USB side, and a battery. The standard Moto software does recognise the usb device and do some software magic, but certainly you could use the dock on it's own w/o the phone.
As to completely replacing the /osh webtop OS that Motorola provides, that is challanging.
There are 2 basic ways to open it up though. Go to the developers subforum and look for webtop2sd and "full Debian".
Somebody did post recently with an attempt to fully replace the webtop OS. he was using gentoo, so look for that and you should find it. But I suspect it is early, and likely to be a significant WP.
As to learning all this ****. If you do some Linux developement or heavy hacking (which it kind of sounds like) you should set up a full full blown 'droid dev platform and start playing. It is big and bulky, but you will learn faster that way than just searbhing around.
EDIT: just reread your post that you are light on Linux. if you want to do anything more than just follow along, it might be a good idea to setup something like an Ubuntu and get familiar there. 'Droid is way different looking (it really basterdises things around) but yoiu need to know both if you want to play with webtop hacks.
Thanks all. I'll look around again to see if I can find the threads you mentioned. I've tried Webtop2SD but to no success so far.
Thanks again.
Hello everyone,
Teamviewer does not allow remote control pc- box, just transfer files and screen view.
Is there anything to do or any alternative to that effect?
Maybe it's a very talked theme but I did not find anything relevant.
Thanks
Depends on your software level and build number. There are older version 9 and 10 of Teamviewer QUICK SUPPORT that allow remote control. Some combinations of MDZ-16-AB firmware and QUICK SUPPORT apk work very well but certainly YMMZ depending on specifics.
Have you tried VYSOR paid version?
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Depends on your software level and build number. There are older version 9 and 10 of Teamviewer QUICK SUPPORT that allow remote control. Some combinations of MDZ-16-AB firmware and QUICK SUPPORT apk work very well but certainly YMMZ depending on specifics.
Have you tried VYSOR paid version?
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Yes, I did but unfortunately wifi in the Vysor only works with the usb cable connected first, and whenever you connect the box you have to do the same, which doesn't make sense.
What I want is a simple wifi connection for different networks, how does teamviewer on simple android.
I've tried several versions of teamviewer including 9 and 10 but no result.
Thanks for trying to help
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Yes, I did but unfortunately wifi in the Vysor only works with the usb cable connected first, and whenever you connect the box you have to do the same, which doesn't make sense.
What I want is a simple wifi connection for different networks, how does teamviewer on simple android.
I've tried several versions of teamviewer including 9 and 10 but no result.
Thanks for trying to help
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Focus on the tv quick Support apk, not teamviewer apk
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Focus on the tv quick Support apk, not teamviewer apk
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teamviewer QuickSupport app ?
yes, I've tried it and has same problem as with teamviewerHOST app... just sharing the screen, doesn't allow remote control.
Note that I use the HOST teamviewer or quicksupport without problems on the native android system.
I've read in several places this question in androidtv OS, but no solutions.
prtscreen mibox (portuguese)
https://we.tl/xIOhnl3R9f
On Samsung's old TV OS is was rather easy to manually backup apps from the TV. Once you'd the app on your PC, you could manually sideload the apps back to the tv. In the end, this would allow users to combine apps from different regions (say Hulu from the US and the BBC iPlayer from the UK) on the same TV set.
Is this still possible somehow on the Tizen-based TVs?
Can you manually download an "official" app" from your tv and push it back to the same or another Tizen TV using the developer account?
Anyone managed to do this? Or got access to a rooted Tizen tv?
Anyone? Still looking to do this...
Also interested in this.
It *should* be possible.
If you have a USB port on your TV, a USB-A to USB-A cable should work. Plug one end in to your computer and the other in to the TV. Fire up sdb and see if it gets picked up by the computer.
I don't have a tizen tv, so I can't test myself, but it should be similar to other tizen devices
Searching for "easy" Firmware for Investigation...
If I remember correct, my last attempt ends with some encrypted TV Firmware...
Need some file, where I can extract files...
Any ideas? :angel:
Thanx in advance.
Best Regards
Edit 1.
Google search... "first bl..d"
https://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=13069
Now i need some time to check posts and so on... to find maybe Firmware for Investigation...
https://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=11715
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https://forum.samygo.tv/viewtopic.php?p=98339#p98339
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Still I don't know how to use this VDFS... Arghhhh... Maybe this helps me...
https://labs.f-secure.com/blog/samsung-q60r-smart-tv-opening-up-the-samsung-q60-series-smart-tv/
I would be curious to what can be done on these. I recently upgraded from an older TV to a Samsung with Tizen. I already see a forced "sponsored" app that shows on left of the screen when I press home and the Sling TV App doesn't seem to recognize the AirTV feature of Sling.
TOMillr said:
On Samsung's old TV OS is was rather easy to manually backup apps from the TV. Once you'd the app on your PC, you could manually sideload the apps back to the tv. In the end, this would allow users to combine apps from different regions (say Hulu from the US and the BBC iPlayer from the UK) on the same TV set.
Is this still possible somehow on the Tizen-based TVs?
Can you manually download an "official" app" from your tv and push it back to the same or another Tizen TV using the developer account?
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I was hoping that someone can help me with a couple of Ready For questions:
Wanting to try out Ready For PC that is present in the newer Motorola phones, does anyone know if it is possible get the APK and try it out? This phone does wired Ready For just fine when used with an external display.
I also wonder if anyone has any app recommendations or knows of any apps that allow the use of widgets on the Ready For desktop when connected to an external display? I really like being able to dock my phone and use the phone simulator on the display while opening up another app or two to use while working, but I think using the standard desktop widgets would be killer. I have tried a few apps meant for DeX without much luck, the only one that has been useful is SecondScreen to change the density of my 3200x1800 14" touch display that I am using with the phone.