Mi 10 5G Dynamic Spectrum Sharing - Xiaomi Mi 10 Questions & Answers

Hey together,
does someone know if Xiaomi brings support for 5G DSS? Different tests showed that the devices are not able to pick up 5G at frequencies of 1,8 and 2,1 Ghz as it is used in Germany for example.
3,5 Ghz signal is working just fine.
Xiaomi also once said that the devices are able to work with DSS, but the providers didn't order this. (Why would someone order a functionality that is already there and cut off for no reason? I mean not only Germany uses sub 3,5 Ghz frequencies).
What about your devices in your country? Anyone able to pick up sub 3,5 Ghz signals with DSS?
(Using MIUI 12.0.1 Global)
Thanks!

This is something I'd love to know as well. I bought a SIM card specifically to test 5G which is on 2100 MHz in my area just to find out that it's not "unlocked". Kinda sad, hope this changes soon.

Same here, doesn't work with newest xiaomi.eu beta Android 11 also
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Something new here?
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Don't work here. N78 work but this is it. Xiaomi support is lying, they told me "it works with the last update" but with the same sim card I get 5G on a P40 but no 5G with Mi10. .

Dear bro,
Does Xiaomi 10T pro can support NR SA ? NR5G Mimo 4x4 ? and 5G CA N1/3/28 to N41/78 ?
The phone manufacture for ASIAN market ( Viet Nam, Lao, ThaiLand...)
Tks a lot

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FDD-LTE and TDD-LTE

Hi everyone.
Are there two different versions of Redmi Note 3 Pro?
Following situation:
In Germany, LTE-FDD is used. In China LTE-TDD is used.
I've bought the phone from Gea*rbest. The Description on the website says
4G: FDD-LTE 1800/2100/2600MHz
There was a sticker on the backside of the phone and there was only LTE-TDD listed. Also on the package of the phone is LTE-TDD listed.
So, LTE will not work in germany and Gea*rbest sent me a wrong version?
In a few days, my Telekom LTE contract will be active. Till then i can not see if LTE is working or not.
I'm a bit scared it wont work because ive already unlocked the bootloader and flashed a custom Rom and a new Kernel
Sorry to say that but the phone does not support most of the Telekom LTE antennas in Germany because they are sending on Band 20 (800Mhz). You would need the special edition for this. I too live in Germany but use O2/E-Plus and don't get LTE at all.
crckmc said:
Sorry to say that but the phone does not support most of the Telekom LTE antennas in Germany because they are sending on Band 20 (800Mhz). You would need the special edition for this. I too live in Germany but use O2/E-Plus and don't get LTE at all.
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Thanks for your reply. I live in Hannover and the Telekom LTE Map shows, that the Band 3 (1800MHz) is very good in this city.
Shown here: https://www.t-mobile.de/netzausbau/0,25250,15400-_,00.html
"4G/LTE mit bis zu 150 MBit/s"
So from this point, i will not have any problems with LTE.
The question is: Will LTE generally work, because of the TDD-LTE standard. In germany, FDD-LTE standard is used.
Some specs from the phone showing that it supports TDD and FDD. Others only show TDD. So i'm not sure if there are different versions of the phone.
I think if you see the network "Telekom 4G" and can connect to it you will have LTE. I just did a scan and can see "Telekom 4G" and "Vodafone 4G" so if you live in an area with Band 3 support all should work! Lucky you but I think thats what I get for being a cheap ass and don't want to pay 40€ per month to the Telekom
hehe, thanks
Hopefully u r right and i can use LTE.
It was an offer. 6GB LTE for 9,99EUR/month. But its only Traffic Contract. As second Sim i will use Congstar 9ct./min and sms. I write 2 or 3 SMS a month and phonecalls? Maybe 10 Minutes a month. So i won't come over 12EUR/month.
So, its also affordable for a "cheap ass"
yes you're right but i wanted it all and yourfone had the best offer with their "volksflat" for 8€
I have some hope left that we can unlock Band 20 too on our devices if we get ahold of a dump from a special edition (kate) device.
OK, LTE is working, my contract is active
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lucky you
But even without LTE I love my RN3 Pro its a really good phone for little money. Did you order @gearbest?
Yea i like it too hopefully it will last long.
You are right, got it from gearbest.
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Do you still have stock firmware installed? If so I would advise you to clean flash MIUI directly from Xiaomi or one of the custom roms from here.
My device came with unlocked bootloader and everything was screwed up so that i couldn't even install a custom firmware from TWRP.
After cleaning up with MiFlash and reinstalling TWRP it worked fine.
So I'm guessing they flash a custom firmware of themselves.
Yes, it was a shop Rom installed. My bootloader was unlocked too. I installed hexagon Rom and dominator kernel. Everything fine till now, no bugs recognized.
Now i See that cm13 is official from TheStix one hour ago. Some bugs. For the future very interesting
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why you buy a phone from china and dont know nothing about?
Nothing? It was just the fdd and tdd thing. And i didnt know that germany and China are using different Standards. And it seems that these Standards dont matter, because LTE is working.
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Well, the beauty is that the Snapdragon 650 can handle both LTE FDD and TDD.
Don't know about the Mediatek version.
Hoschie1983 said:
hehe, thanks
Hopefully u r right and i can use LTE.
It was an offer. 6GB LTE for 9,99EUR/month. But its only Traffic Contract. As second Sim i will use Congstar 9ct./min and sms. I write 2 or 3 SMS a month and phonecalls? Maybe 10 Minutes a month. So i won't come over 12EUR/month.
So, its also affordable for a "cheap ass"
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me in france i have 4euro 20gb
but with my xiaomi with SFR (vodafone) i have no 4g at all not even in the city because they only use 800mhz even if there antenas have 1800 and 2600mhz so yeah f=ckedup. but with bouygue telecome its fine in the city 4g all the way on 1800 and 2600mhz and H+ outside that fine
paul_damian said:
Well, the beauty is that the Snapdragon 650 can handle both LTE FDD and TDD.
Don't know about the Mediatek version.
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Yes, the specs on the xiaomi website saying FDD and TDD. But the Package and the Sticker on the backside said only TDD. That was confusing
But know i see it can handle both and i am happy
reggiexp said:
me in france i have 4euro 20gb
but with my xiaomi with SFR (vodafone) i have no 4g at all not even in the city. but with bouygue telecome its fine in the city and H+ outside that fine
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In Germany, mobile Internet is very expensive. But The last 2 or 3 month the prices are getting better. Here is chart from april which shows what u got for 35EUR in the EU. That is saying everything
http://dfmonitor.eu/images/headline_chart1.png

LTE Bands determined by hardware or software?

I have seen sellers listing B20 as a compatible band and others that do not is this down to the hardware or the rom they are running? I have also noticed ebay sellers saying "international" and "global" versions and still not saying its compatible with band 20?
Yeah, it can get pretty confusing. The LTE bands will be determined by the hardware.
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Band 20 is available in 'global version'.
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ianonfire said:
I have seen sellers listing B20 as a compatible band and others that do not is this down to the hardware or the rom they are running? I have also noticed ebay sellers saying "international" and "global" versions and still not saying its compatible with band 20?
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Well, actually they are dependent on BOTH hardware & software implementation. Generally, in higher end SOCs (say Qualcomm 8xx series), generally all the global LTE bands are present and manufacturers choose to enable just some in different regions. In low to mid range devices,due to cost constraints, OEMs usually choose to include the hardware for bands necessary for the region the device is targeted, making devices a little cheaper to manufacture.
I hope it helps.

Carrier aggregation with mi9

Someone that already have it coukd check what band are included? Today i will ran some test on my friends phone
Did you checked it? I'm very curious about aggregation bands 1+3+7 because no other Xiaomi could do that because of software lock. S855 could do that easily
Also curious
I'm waiting to hear more on this as well. I'm hoping, due to their recent announcements of trying to enter the US market, that the Mi 9 will aggregate on more bands, specifically bands in the US on AT&T.
Once OnePlus started entering the US market they made sure to unlock all the features of the Qualcomm modem. My 5T often is 3xCA on 2, 4, 12 or 66 for example. Unfortunately, it has a huge bug with the modem.
I made some test with my mi 9 eu with the global beta and I can confirm that it is 4ca (and 256 qam) capable in europe (b1+b3+b7+b20). Tomorrow I'll check if it can go in MIMO 4x4.
Aldideos said:
I made some test with my mi 9 eu with the global beta and I can confirm that it is 4ca (and 256 qam) capable in europe (b1+b3+b7+b20). Tomorrow I'll check if it can go in MIMO 4x4.
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If you don't mind telling, how did you check that?
Dariusdd said:
If you don't mind telling, how did you check that?
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NSG (Network Signal Guru).
Aldideos said:
NSG (Network Signal Guru).
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Rooted?
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AlexanderKgr said:
Rooted?
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Yes. Global beta rooted, mi 9 bought from an official reseller in Italy.
Aldideos said:
Yes. Global beta rooted, mi 9 bought from an official reseller in Italy.
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Thinking of buying mi9 because of carrier aggregation
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Strange got on amazon and only got with the usual 1800+2100
Aldideos said:
NSG (Network Signal Guru).
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Can you post screenshot?
For the life of me I cannot get LTE+ to work(carrier aggregation). My Chinese variant will only connect to a single LTE band. I have run stock, xiaomi.eu, floko gsi and not on global stable and no change. WTF. My temp phone that is a Verizon lg g3 can do LTE+ and it only supports 2 T-Mobile bands where this device support 4.
pimpmaneaton said:
For the life of me I cannot get LTE+ to work(carrier aggregation). My Chinese variant will only connect to a single LTE band. I have run stock, xiaomi.eu, floko gsi and not on global stable and no change. WTF. My temp phone that is a Verizon lg g3 can do LTE+ and it only supports 2 T-Mobile bands where this device support 4.
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Same here, LTE+ doesn't show up. I'm on T-Mobile US. I didn't have any problems with my Mix 2 and Mix 2S.
I've had it show a couple times outdoors but never inside. I also had no similar issue on Mix 2 or 2S. I thought the MI & Mix Xiaomi phones were supposed to be comparable but maybe not.
My mi5 has AG on b3+b7 but my mi 9 don't show 4g+ and no AG!
Xiaomi is unsual in this case!
Aldideos said:
Tomorrow I'll check if it can go in MIMO 4x4.
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Any update about 4x4 MIMO?
pRo_lama said:
Any update about 4x4 MIMO?
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In Italy mi9 supports only b1, b3, b7 and b20.
The mi9 has 4x4 MIMO only on band 7 but not in any combination that include the band 3.
Aldideos said:
In Italy mi9 supports only b1, b3, b7 and b20.
The mi9 has 4x4 MIMO only on band 7 but not in any combination that include the band 3.
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OMG, why only band B7?
I guess we will never have full support.
In the Netherlands I see 4G+ all the time, just like on my previous MI mix 2. Not rooted, bootloader is locked, global version running eea rom

4G+ is not working ?? I had only 4g.

I had my new poco f1 ( indian edition ). unlocked the bootloader , now on miuipro.
I can`t had 4g+ network ( only 4g signal ), even with stock rom.
i had 4g+ coverage in my area with my 2nd lenovo phone ( same network operator ).
and poco f1 supposed to have 4g+ coverage and frequencies even better than my old phone ..
any one facing this issues and is any fix to enable 4g+ to my poco f1
thanks
same issue here... I own Poco for 6 months and I could see 4G+ on my phone only ONCE for only few minutes- tried 4 different networks in 2 different countries.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/how-4g-lte-speed-compared-t3921741
Nexus5-32GB said:
same issue here... I own Poco for 6 months and I could see 4G+ on my phone only ONCE for only few minutes- tried 4 different networks in 2 different countries.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/help/how-4g-lte-speed-compared-t3921741
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i read your previous post , one replied to change the region from the setting , actually miuipro removed this from the setting , and when I was using stock rom , i kept the region ( india) to use face data unlock feature.
did u tried to change the region from the setting? and if u did , does it work or not ?
because I dont like to try the stock rom again unless it works :cyclops:
hoshos2006 said:
i read your previous post , one replied to change the region from the setting , actually miuipro removed this from the setting , and when I was using stock rom , i kept the region ( india) to use face data unlock feature.
did u tried to change the region from the setting? and if u did , does it work or not ?
because I dont like to try the stock rom again unless it works :cyclops:
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I have tried it several times without any success
Nexus5-32GB said:
I have tried it several times without any success
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:crying::crying::crying:
disappointing to have that great phone with this weird issue , I read somewhere on the internet, that xiaomi lock some bands frequencies to their phones , I don`t know why , basically snapdragon 845 support most of the 4g bands frequencies by default.
I thought may be one of the developer here could find a fix or if any way to unlock the frequencies to be used .
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:crying::crying::crying:
disappointing to have that great phone with this weird issue , I read somewhere on the internet, that xiaomi lock some bands frequencies to their phones , I don`t know why , basically snapdragon 845 support most of the 4g bands frequencies by default.
I thought may be one of the developer here could find a fix or if any way to unlock the frequencies to be used .
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If I am not wrong xiaomi does not lock band frequencies (at least not on global version) but carrier aggregation.
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velix2 said:
If I am not wrong xiaomi does not lock band frequencies (at least not on global version) but carrier aggregation.
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any source of Xiaomi locks carrier aggregation?
Nexus5-32GB said:
any source of Xiaomi locks carrier aggregation?
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It seems that the wiki article I read few months ago that said that carrier aggregation was not supported outside India has been updated ( https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_devices_with_LTE_Advanced#Xiaomi ).
However, in India, you should not have problem with CA
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velix2 said:
It seems that the wiki article I read few months ago that said that carrier aggregation was not supported outside India has been updated ( https://en.everybodywiki.com/List_of_devices_with_LTE_Advanced#Xiaomi ).
However, in India, you should not have problem with CA
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Thank you very much for this source. It led me to finally find the problem of not getting 4G+ on Pocophone!
Indeed CA (Carrier Aggregation) is blocked for SOME LTE bands, specially B20, B3 which are used in EU. I have spent all night doing this research and there are many posts on miui forums about the same issue and Xiaomi does NOTHING about it! This led me to thinking Xiaomi knows about this limitation in their modems bought from Qualcomm for smaller price perhaps? Who knows, but the fact is from now on, no one can be sure about full support of LTE in his country as far the phone has all the LTE bands, because what also matters is support of CA!!!
Please note, that CA works fine for example in India where different LTE bands are used and modem is not limited. The problem is CA with EU bands.
Buying Xiaomi phone and want to get 4G+? The only way is to test it after you buy, because you cant get this information from any spec sheet out there

5G in USA?

I've been doing my best to do the search but coming up empty handed. I can't get my head wrapped around the whole bands. I am looking at getting the Pro ver. not really worried about Global or China build. Right now I am on Tmobile with the Mi Mix 3 China build.
ernicoats said:
I've been doing my best to do the search but coming up empty handed. I can't get my head wrapped around the whole bands. I am looking at getting the Pro ver. not really worried about Global or China build. Right now I am on Tmobile with the Mi Mix 3 China build.
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I decided to get CH because of band 12 I'm on T-Mobile also I can keep you posted once I get the phone.
After a month lol I finally got my mi 10 pro and I can tell you I do get 5g on T-Mobile
raven213 said:
After a month lol I finally got my mi 10 pro and I can tell you I do get 5g on T-Mobile
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What is your Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro model number? Very intrested how it work in T-Mobile USA 5G-network. Chinese version support only n41 but i didn't know it can use US 4G band as anchor.
I have listed Xiaomi MI 10 Pro 5G combinations https://cacombos.com/device?model=M2001J1C (China model).
I like to update my page so can you send to me log from your device when you are connected to 5G? I have here instruction how to get log https://mt-tech.fi/en/how-to-get-4g...phone/#Method_for_Qualcomm_Devices_after_2020 and you can send it to https://cacombos.com/contribute
This help me to build even better site to show devices 4G and 5G bands and combinations.

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