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Hello all,
Just a curiosity I noticed. When using the included headphones with the in-line mic, the sound quality is really very good and the volumes far higher. However, when I try to use my Sennheiser HD 202-II headphones, I notice that the sound volume decreases greatly. For instance, what used to be loud at 12/30 with the headset, doesn't get loud until 22/30. I know it's a small annoyance, but the sound quality seems to suffer as well. Or maybe it's just the fact that I'm coming from a Zune HD whose quality spoiled me completely?
Anyway, was wondering if this could be alleviated by buying a pair of headphones with an in-line microphone. Can anyone recommend any? This Sony set is definitely intriguing (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294) but there aren't any reviews yet.
Thanks for any suggestions.
It's more likely due to differences in impedance and sensitivity - I have no problem with earbuds that do not have an inline mic.
For headphones with low sensitivity, consider an external headphone amp like one of the FiiO amps.
Thanks, didn't realize the included earbuds had an in-line mic. I bought a pair of Klipsch s4's that improve the sound a great deal. I don't think I'd ever need a mic, the one built into the player seems to pick up very well.
Why are there no sound mods for our phone? I set a poll, so please vote. Please use it to motivate a development. Can we get better sq for our EVO? After the new update Beats Audio doesn't sound as good anymore. It is missing the Beats eq profiles. This also happen on both the oneX OTA as well.
I find the sound quality to be just fine on my Evo. You can only get so much out of a device that isn't designed mainly to play music. If I wanted top quality audio, I'd be carrying around a dedicated MP3 player with expensive headphones and a portable amp, but when I want to listen to music on the go or at the gym that's just not realistic.
If you're worried about SQ, never use Beats. It ruins the overall quality of the music. I would suggest tweaking the EQ yourself.
SoraX64 said:
I find the sound quality to be just fine on my Evo. You can only get so much out of a device that isn't designed mainly to play music. If I wanted top quality audio, I'd be carrying around a dedicated MP3 player with expensive headphones and a portable amp, but when I want to listen to music on the go or at the gym that's just not realistic.
If you're worried about SQ, never use Beats. It ruins the overall quality of the music. I would suggest tweaking the EQ yourself.
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What are some of the better eq out there that works for our phone. I tried DSP with no luck with headphones..
I find sound a bit lacking but I do love bass and the atomic headphones I bought deliver just that, honestly its like there's a tiny amp in my head
Had a Samsung Epic Touch and hell yeah I am satisfied with sound quality. I plugged in to car's aux input and the Beats kicked in and made the rental car stereo sound great. Also the fact that you can now use poweramp and volume+ together and with built in Beats...there are options
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A good set of headphones makes a huge difference. I just bought a pair of klipsch reference 1 headphones and the sound is great, especially if you have fairly high bit rate mp3's. Amazon is offering 250kbps songs which sound pretty outstanding.
I definitely recommend atomic head phones, they are relatively cheap and many many reviewers have said they match the performance of a pair of basic $99 shure ear buds. They are designed for bass but you can easily raise the highs and mids to compensate. I tested my pair with some bass heavy music and carefully raised the bass in equalizer and then boosted it in tone and then adjusted virtualizer (stereo expansion) to see how far I can reliably push the drivers and these things are absolutely clear coming from a 320kbps file and power amp. It really really sounds like an amp is in your head. For $30 these things are sick!
I like it so far. The quality is great, but that's coming from a guy who can't really tell the difference.
Using N6P for the last few days, N6P sound output from the headphone jack is poor, it gets loud but quality is lacking, N6P doesn’t even have the power to drive high efficiency headphones (high sensitivity (dbl/mW or dbl/W) and low impedance (ohms)), I listen on my Triple Fi 10 headphones (Input Sensitivity - 117dB/mW; Impedance - 32 ohms) and the sound quality is disappointing.
I am coming from N6, N6 has very good sound quality from the headphone jack, N6 has the power to drive my Triple Fi 10 and doesn’t need an Amp.
PhoneArena measured the N6 at .98 volts and the 6P is .34 volts, for comparison IP6+ is 1.014 volts
See below comments from Head-fi forum about the poor sound quality:
“The 6P's sound is extremely forward and punchy, but has a real digital grittiness to it. Almost like running through a preamp with the gain wound up too far, with a weird high mid resonance that eventually becomes fatiguing. The weird grit sort of reminds me of my motherboard's onboard Realtek sound, from circa mid-2000s. It feels like the frequency response is not flat at all, I'm expecting tests to show a big peak around high mids to low treble. It's kind of like listening on cheap earbuds.”
http://www.head-fi.org/t/785067/nexus-5x-and-6p-sound-quality/30
I hate to return N6P as I love the phone otherwise, but sound quality is very important to me as I listen to music a lot.
The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
Get high quality Bluetooth headset. I have jaybird x2 and sounds beautiful connected.
Jamie bell said:
The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
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Must listen to this guy.
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I couldn't tell you the last time I plugged in headphones... No to wires!
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Only use them on airplanes!
im very happy with my Nexus 6P and headphone jack sound quality with my vmoda headphones. I use poweramp to listen to music and used one of the apps preset equalizers, sound quality is great to me, I've also used it during phones calls and it sounds just fine.
ga9213 said:
Get high quality Bluetooth headset. I have jaybird x2 and sounds beautiful connected.
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Smallsmx3 said:
I couldn't tell you the last time I plugged in headphones... No to wires!
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Bluetooth is not there yet in terms of music quality, I have tried and returned 10 -12 bluetooth headphones in the last year including Jay bird x, they are no match to the good quality wired headsets like my Triple Fi 10, you won’t get any sound stage on Bluetooth headphones.
Sony’s new high resolution Bluetooth headphones are promising but it needs LDAC codec support on the phone, also these headphones are expensive at $399.
I wonder if someday we will see a pair of cans sporting USB-C with an inline Digital to Analog converter. There would be many benefits to this really. I could see a trackpad that supports gestures or scrobbling, etc.
I understand that as for high end audiophile one can spend thousands in the pursuit of audio bliss. But as for my common daily use my 6P with Viper and my JayBird X and Bose sounds is just fine:good::good::good:
Get poweramp and apply these settings.
People still use those headphone jacks? Hmmm... Interesting
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Get poweramp and apply these settings.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but software enhancements mostly ruins music experience, I prefer to listen the music the way musician intended to..
I used poweramp but prefer Neutron - the best music player on Android..
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People still use those headphone jacks? Hmmm... Interesting
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yes...only if you listen to real music..and have a discerning ears..
droidguy22 said:
yes...only if you listen to real music..and have a discerning ears..
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Real music you say? Lol so those with discerning ears don't use Bluetooth? #snobbery
If you wish to listen to music "as musicians intended" then you can only get inside their collective heads to hear it. Everything else is influenced and changed by acoustics, recording, engineering and production.
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The 6p has so many strong points, wouldn't it be worth using a headphone amp instead of returning the entire thing? Obviously that won't solve audio quality, but investing in an iPod or a walkman isn't too bad when your then able to use IMO the best android phone of 2015...
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agree that 6p has many strong points, but amp defeats the portability, a premium phone ($700 - 128gb with tax) in 2015 should give a decent sound quality, what's the point of 128gb storage if it can't output decent sound.
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If you wish to listen to music "as musicians intended" then you can only get inside their collective heads to hear it. Everything else is influenced and changed by acoustics, recording, engineering and production.
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the way you described is not possible, that's why you want to buy a device with better DAC and use good quality headphones and you can be as close as possible to the musicians intent..
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Real music you say? Lol so those with discerning ears don't use Bluetooth? #snobbery
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you are not so bright, are you?
Why Bluetooth Audio Used To (and Still Largely) Sucks:
The problem with Bluetooth audio has always been digital compression: in order to send your audio to your headphones, you were forced to sacrifice quality. Traditionally, especially on older devices and with older Bluetooth versions, this meant the sound was so badly compressed that the result sounded robotic, buzzy, noisy, and all around awful. Listening to podcasts and spoken word through them wasn't a big deal, but when it came to music, they were just the worst. You got none of the richness or warmth of sound that a pair of wired headphones offers.
if you're the type who really enjoys listening—and I mean actively listening—to music on high-quality headphones, and you use terms like "soundstage" and "frequency response" to judge one pair of headphones over another, you may be disappointed, especially when you compare your wireless listening experience to a wired one.
http://lifehacker.com/does-bluetooth-audio-still-suck-1505063323
droidguy22 said:
the way you described is not possible, that's why you want to buy a device with better DAC and use good quality headphones and you can be as close as possible to the musicians intent..
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My comment was not a flame. The difference is that I see all this as impossible for the very reasons I gave. Perhaps Steve Albini can make this clearer: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/albini.htm
Hi all
my brother just bought LG V10 and the sound quality is great and so was mine until i started listening to music with V10
i know it has an extra sound chip but i really think that Z2 has the potential to be that good too
the question is how can i get the most audio quality with Z2 ?
which headphones do you recommend ?
i have the standard MH410c headphones that were in Z2 box , should i get the noise cancelling headphones ?
is there any software modification i can do ? (i currently use stock firmware but its rooted)
I bought the noise cancellation earphones and they are really good. The sound it's really great for me.
There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
Mokiwipeout said:
There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
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what headphones are recommended with z2 ?
sony noise cancelling ? or can i buy a pair of good yamaha headphones and expect improved quality too ?
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There are 3 things you can do as far as I know
-> Buy a better set of headphones
-> Buy a dac
-> Use software such as viper4android or sound mods.
In my opinion, you should start by fiddling with the software because a good pair of headphones is pretty expensive, and so are most dacs out there
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About DAC - if you want to use it, you should use digital connection between phone and DAC. How you gonna to do that? As far I know the only way to do that is connection by Wi-Fi or Bluetooth but if you choose A2DT you loose quality. I don't know any DAC with Wi-Fi connection. In iPods you just make line out cable and than connect DAC by that. I really want to know any line out before amplifier in Xperia.
Sound mods are good enough for speaker, but it's can't do better sound on poor headphones. Start with that. Of course you can try some mods, but I think, and I'm telling that as drummer and sound engineer, that can't really help. Built tools in our phones are just enough.
I recommend to try AKG K518. But if you want in-ear headphones you can try noise canceling sony ear buds. But that's one have a lot of high frequencies and built-in equalizer haven't enough bars to equalize it. I was using a lot shure E2C and ultimate ears fi but that's IEM (in ear monitors) so that's have nearly flat frequencies response with cut-down high frequencies.
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regarding bluetooth headset, Z2 supports APTX, which should make wireless audio via bluetooth sounds better. Of course, the headphone must supports it too.
If you are listening to mp3 files I don't think it's worth to get expensive earbuds. Just the Sony NC earbuds with Viper4Android FX. Guaranteed soundgasms!
You can use DAC with usb otg connection. I'm using Hifiman HM-101, you just need to connect it and it works. Sound quality and loudness of it is much better then internal Z2 sound chip.
Im using HTC Sensation XE earphones and the sound is very good. Depends on what music you listen to and do you like clear or bassy sound. These are christal clear, I turn off all sound enhancements and get really good experience.
Zspitter said:
what headphones are recommended with z2 ?
sony noise cancelling ? or can i buy a pair of good yamaha headphones and expect improved quality too ?
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Well, you are going to spend a lot of money if you want to buy a good pair of headphones...
Probably more than 50€...
Plus, the headphones that came with the phone are pretty sh!tty, save for their noise cancelling feature, which in my case is fairly useless anyway.
However, if you are intending on buying expensive headphones, make sure that they have either a fairly low impendance, or get a dac. The phone might not be able to drive the headphones, it is somewhat common with truly expensive headphones.
icegustpl said:
About DAC - if you want to use it, you should use digital connection between phone and DAC. How you gonna to do that? As far I know the only way to do that is connection by Wi-Fi or Bluetooth but if you choose A2DT you loose quality. I don't know any DAC with Wi-Fi connection. In iPods you just make line out cable and than connect DAC by that. I really want to know any line out before amplifier in Xperia.
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As another one said, there are USB OTG dacs too
But they are fairly expensive as far as I know
I use AKG Y50BT with APTX. Just a suggestion.
The basic earbuds without noisecanceling that come with the z2 have a terrible quality, Sony should be ashamed of themselves to include such worthless junk with a flagship product.
I bought the noisecanceling ones lately, just to try as they are for less than €30 including shipping on amazon and they do sound a lot better.
Still, earbuds and good sound quality just don't go together in my humble opinion. Although I have never tried high end earbuds, the sound of big 40 or 50mm headphones is just so much fuller and more complete that I cannot imagine those tiny things capable of that.
Plus that over ear models are a lot more comfortable if you listen for longer periods.
Use Xtreme music mod
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Hello,
Does sound coming out from front stereo speakers sound balanced? Does top or bottom speaker sound louder than the other?
And does it have powerful DAC for 3.5mm headphone port?
Last Xperia I had was Z5 Premium. It's speakers sounded very unbalanced. I don't remember which side, but one side was noticeably louder than the other, which was very annoying to listen to. The other phone I'm seriously considering is ROG Phone 5. It's got same size of speakers on the both end, so it's speakers are perfectly balanced, and also have powerful Quad DAC for 3.5 mm port. However, it's biggest cons are of course the cameras and screen if you compare with Xperia 1 III. I think I can let go of 3.5mm port, but if speakers don't sound balanced, it'd could be a deal breaker for me.
Sitti01 said:
Hello,
Does sound coming out from front stereo speakers sound balanced? Does top or bottom speaker sound louder than the other?
And does it have powerful DAC for 3.5mm headphone port?
Last Xperia I had was Z5 Premium. It's speakers sounded very unbalanced. I don't remember which side, but one side was noticeably louder than the other, which was very annoying to listen to. The other phone I'm seriously considering is ROG Phone 5. It's got same size of speakers on the both end, so it's speakers are perfectly balanced, and also have powerful Quad DAC for 3.5 mm port. However, it's biggest cons are of course the cameras and screen if you compare with Xperia 1 III. I think I can let go of 3.5mm port, but if speakers don't sound balanced, it'd could be a deal breaker for me.
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I don’t think anyone has the 1M3 yet. But as far as the DAC, I have the 1M2 and some high end in ear earphones from Campfire Audio and some from Sennheiser and I have a couple of expensive DACs that connect via USB C and honestly I get the same high quality sound with my external DACs as when I plug straight in to the 3.5mm port. I have some other earphones and headphones with a 4.4mm balanced cable so I use an external DAC for those, but mainly just plug in to my Xperia. I expect the same or better DAC in the new phone.
Are they using the S Master DAC or are they not disclosing what the DAC is?
The DAC is absolutely top notch. I have the fiio q5s and xduoo 05 bal. I think it's just as good as the xduoo and better than the fiio. The sound is tuned to be very smooth. Smoother than the two said DACs. So it's a god sent if you have bright sounding headphones too harsh to listen to.
As for the speakers, balanced, good but not impressive
i can confirm the 1 iii has a terrific built in DAC. i have some (IMO) high end IEMs. I tested my campfire audio atlas and polaris mk2. I also have a couple of ifi audio DACs that I think are well regarded (hip dac and an iDSD). plugging into the 1 iii directly in its headphone jack sounds great. i don’t notice any difference as compared to a separate DAC.
I have both Rog Phone5 and xperia1 iii, I think Rog Phone5 speaker effect is much better than xperia1 iii, as for the use of 3.5mm playback, Rog Phone5 performance is very bad, xperia 1iii seems to have a built-in amplifier but the decoding is still using the processor built-in dac, xperia 1iii has Sony's tuning so good listening experience