Does the Note 9S support Qualcomm Quick Charge? - Redmi Note 9S / Note 9 Pro (Indian Model) Question

Hi all,
I am planning on buying a Note 9S, and I was wondering if anyone here knows or can test if the 18W quick charging on this device is Qualcomm Quick Charge compatible? I know the chipset supports upto QC4+, but I also know that it's up the manufacturer to impliment it. I bought myself an Aukey QC3.0 charger for my current phone a few months ago and I was wondering if it will work with this phone.
Thanks

For those that might be interested, I have an update.
I got the Redmi Note 9S, and I tried my Aukey QC3.0 charger and the device does indeed fast charge. It seems like the device is somewhat compatible with Qualcomm Quick Charge. I want to run a timed test to see if the two chargers charge at roughly the same rate. I will update this thread with those results once I have collected them.

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Enable Quick Charge 2.0

Since the Honor 5X uses a Qualcomm Snapgragon 616 which features Quick Charge 2.0, would it be possible to unlock this feature by software? The necessary hardware is already there...
maybe the custom kernels can do that.
I posted a similar question here. Looks like Huawei has disabled a subset of the SD616 features. Presumably this is to safe cost on this affordably priced handset. What we'd all really like to know is whether Huawei has saved cost on licenses, materials, or both. I hope it's licenses only so our devs can work their magic and unlock the goods for us.
if we can get our hands on a nandroid backup of the chinese market version then maybe our developers can port it over
I am a participant of Android 6.0 + EMUI 4.0 beta testing for Honor 5x and I have already asked Honor to implement this one in the release. I am not sure whether they would do it. I have also asked to enable OTG support with the update.
@pank.dhnd let's hope you get them to enable quick charge and OTG. thank you
Let's hope we get everything we have demanded so far
Can you enable OTG by changing the build prop line:
ro.config.support_otgstorage from "false" to "true"
and
ro.mmi.otg_test from "false" to "true"
I change the value of these 2 lines but I have yet to test with a USB drive with OTG connector.
Doesnt it support it already? My Phone doesnt charge faster with a 2-3amp charger it doesnt go over 1050ma with ampère app
http://www.androidbeat.com/2016/02/honor-5x-faq/
"Q) Does the Honor 5X support Quick Charging?
A) Yes, the Honor 5X supports Quick Charge 2.0, which means that you can charge the phone to nearly 50 percent when charged for only 30 minutes. However, do note that Huawei has not bundled a Quick Charge compatible charger with the Honor 5X, so you need to buy it separately."
According to this site it does. but I don't know for sure. I do know my phone charges exceptionally fast. The charger that comes with it is model#hw-050100u01. I'll have to measure the voltage/amp when I get home.
The Honor 5X doesn't support Quick Charge.
I have an Anker 18W Quick Charge adapter (2.5Amp) with an Anker Powerline. My phone charges much faster with that than stock charger (1Amp) and stock cable. It takes about 3 hours with the stock charger, and about 2 hours with the Anker charger.
Your USB charging cable makes a difference. Thicker 24AWG cables will charge your phone faster. I can't post links yet - but look up any micro USB Anker Powerline cables on Amazon, and a 2.5Amp Anker Charger.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapdragon/2015/06/30/qualcomm-quick-charge-20-technology-explained
According to this article, we would beable to charge our phones at a maximum of 24 watts. I tested the watts on the stock charger(#hw-050100u01) and I was charging at 7 watts. 7 watts still being pretty fast, nothing compared to 24 watts. My stock charger charged at .9 amps.
So yes Quick Charge is definately disabled.

Quick charge - quick question

I just got note 5 ai whyred and wonder if i can use quick charger 3.0 daily instead of xiaomi 'slow' charger. I mean its prolly safe, but im more about battery life. As far as i know this version support qc 3.0 and my charger is blitzwolf bw-s5.

Does Poco really support Quick Charge 4.0+?

I have bought this charger from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Certified-Delivery-Charging-Nintendo/dp/B07FQKGB9D
As Poco India says on tweet that it supports quick charge 4, i bought this up. But unfortunately i don't see a significant improvement on charging over my stock quick charge 3 supported charger. Well, i have tried different mod that are floating around in different telegram group of poco. They do help to certain degree but not that much of a difference. Why is that? Can the developer create any mod to make the quick charge 4.0 to it's full potential??
You can made a mod to increase the charging speed (in some custom kernels) but not up to the Quick Charge 4.0 standard because QC 4 has certain Voltage and Watts that QC 3 doesn't have (Let's say QC 3 up to 20w and QC 4 up to 40w)
When buying Pocophone F1, only a Quick Charge 3.0 charger is included instead of QC 4
Here is the official list of QC 4 supported devices and official QC 4 chargers on their website.
https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf
Darklouis said:
You can made a mod to increase the charging speed (in some custom kernels) but not up to the Quick Charge 4.0 standard because QC 4 has certain Voltage and Watts that QC 3 doesn't have (Let's say QC 3 up to 20w and QC 4 up to 40w)
When buying Pocophone F1, only a Quick Charge 3.0 charger is included instead of QC 4
Here is the official list of QC 4 supported devices and official QC 4 chargers on their website.
https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf
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Well it shows Xiaomi poco f1 in the list
vismaiy said:
Well it shows Xiaomi poco f1 in the list
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Yep and of course, finding a good and authentic QC 4 charger is hard and expensive even here in the Philippines, finding QC4 charger is a pain in the ass.
Darklouis said:
You can made a mod to increase the charging speed (in some custom kernels) but not up to the Quick Charge 4.0 standard because QC 4 has certain Voltage and Watts that QC 3 doesn't have (Let's say QC 3 up to 20w and QC 4 up to 40w)
When buying Pocophone F1, only a Quick Charge 3.0 charger is included instead of QC 4
Here is the official list of QC 4 supported devices and official QC 4 chargers on their website.
https://www.qualcomm.com/media/documents/files/quick-charge-device-list.pdf
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So does this mean although i bought quick charger 4. It won't be able to perform as quick charge 4.0?
Rakibboss said:
So does this mean although i bought quick charger 4. It won't be able to perform as quick charge 4.0?
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I don't really know because you bought a charger that believed has QC 4 supported but in the official list of chargers that has QC 4, it doesn't show up there. I just checked the specs of your charger and it has the highest output of 30watts. I think you just bought a QC 4+ charger.
(QC 4 and QC4+ has a little different specs or features)
Darklouis said:
I don't really know because you bought a charger that believed has QC 4 supported but in the official list of chargers that has QC 4, it doesn't show up there. I just checked the specs of your charger and it has the highest output of 30watts. I think you just bought a QC 4+ charger.
(QC 4 and QC4+ has a little different specs or features)
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The manual of the charger says it support quick charge 4.0 and 4.0+
Rakibboss said:
The manual of the charger says it support quick charge 4.0 and 4.0+
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Yeah. You just bought a QC 4/4+ charger. I think Qualcomm should update their list of QC4 and 4+ chargers.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20V...9.0&pvid=bb4c4d47-e198-4377-a33a-f0a3bb112735
can this work for poco f1
gogib said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20V...9.0&pvid=bb4c4d47-e198-4377-a33a-f0a3bb112735
can this work for poco f1
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Nowhere in the description of the item says the charger support quick charge 4.0.…as far as i know there's a difference between quick charge 4 and USB PD (power delivery)
Here a video I made using custom rom like nitrogen os 5-8watt speed charging but when boot into recovery TWRP 15-20 watt speed charging
I've able to fast charge using charging below
Samsung QC2.0 Charger
Huawei M5 Pro FCP Charger
Aukey PA-T14 QC3.0
These charger are not able to fast charge
Tronsmart WCP01 PD3.0 & QC4.0
Aukey PA-Y8 PD3.0 & QC4.0
I've being told by Aukey staff that QC4 somewhat not working well with Poco maybe due to Xiaomi license etc...
gogib said:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/20V...9.0&pvid=bb4c4d47-e198-4377-a33a-f0a3bb112735
can this work for poco f1
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I don't know if it works on Poco F1 or even can handle the 65watts charger, in the item description it says for Lenovo Laptop.
ronald_loulan said:
I've able to fast charge using charging below
Samsung QC2.0 Charger
Huawei M5 Pro FCP Charger
Aukey PA-T14 QC3.0
These charger are not able to fast charge
Tronsmart WCP01 PD3.0 & QC4.0
Aukey PA-Y8 PD3.0 & QC4.0
I've being told by Aukey staff that QC4 somewhat not working well with Poco maybe due to Xiaomi license etc...
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Share some video if you can,like to see.Post in YouTube and give link here
One thing i noticed is that the charge never exceeds 18watts.. So that means maybe within software it's limited to quick charge 3.0..
Qualcomm has certified that Poco F1 meets the hardware necessities for quick charge 4/4+. This doesn't necessarily mean it will be able to, because it's in the hands of the OEMs that manufacture our phone. Xiaomi has intentionally kept the charging voltage to low on the Poco F1, which if provided, can be easily sorted out through software updates. But I don't think Xiaomi will do that, because it's bad for their business. If you cramp up everything on such a budget phone, there will be a decrease in the purchase of their other flagships that they have provided. So in order to keep this balance between their flagship and budget oriented devices, Xiaomi has intentionally kept the Poco F1 out of quick charge 4/4+ territory. Xiaomi did announce after a couple of days that Poco F1 supports quick charge 4/4+, but only shortly it was taken down. So don't waste your time looking up for chargers that support quick charge 4/4+, the Poco F1 will never be able to quick charge in 4/4+ if Xiaomi doesn't provide such tweeks in the phone through software updates.
Rakibboss said:
One thing i noticed is that the charge never exceeds 18watts.. So that means maybe within software it's limited to quick charge 3.0..
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Aside from the possibility of it being limited by the software, battery temperature has a major impact on how fast you can charge your device. Try watching this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh9OJQZinFQ
From his experiment, you can clearly see that Poco does support QC4 or QC4+ (I don't know what's the difference, but I guess 4+ is better?) and it's able to charge at a whopping 30+Watts just from lowering the ambient temperature alone as opposed to getting about 12 to 13 Watts from QC 3.0
As far as I know, there's only one charger that has worked for POCO to enable QC 4+. But seeing that this charger is nearly impossible to buy and is also quite expensive at the same time.
There is a post here in the forum I saw around a year ago where someone bought this charger and tested it. And he claims that it does indeed work.
He also did clarify that the benefits are little to none.
QC 4+ is mostly a theoretical upgrade to QC 3. Most phones don't ever reach the full QC 4+ or even 4 specifications.
We are limited by the battery technology of our time, where faster charges result in more heat. Which is why even though most phones released today are certified for 4+ they usually still ship with a 3 charger.
Other brands like VOOC are able to get so high is because they use dual battery cells.
Anyway, here's the charger if you want to buy it.
https://www.razer.com/mobile/razer-phone-power-adapter

Baseus 30W charger at Mi 9

does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
I think it's just Quick Charge 3.0. You should buy the 27W charger imo. But i could be wrong
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
Good I stopped by XDA before purchasing it.
It does say if you scroll down on its specs it's a QC4 charger, but I assumed the described output would be a sum of both USB ports working simultaneously.
Already posted about it some weeks ago.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79530777&postcount=73
It's indeed just a QC 4.0 charger. Will only do 18W.
Hi, I have one. For it to work properly you have to have the cable of more than 30w.
Load much faster than the original that comes in the box. I did a quick test from 75% to 100% with the phone turned off and charged in 25min; so you can assume if it's fast or not.
WTF ; does this phone even do QC4 ... the Xiaomi offical charger is 3.0 and I bought a $68 dollars Belkin QC : 4.0+ offical as per reviews and it caps out at. 3470 : it NEVER has said fast or TURBO and it ofen Ampere reports 1800 mah ? Can anyone explain this in any way
Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
Ataemonus said:
Do you really have to post the same thing in every single charger related topic ?
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I couldn't find this :/
hardtheory said:
I have it, it does quick charge but not charge turbo
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Thanks for info dude
I suspect that Turbo Charge only happens with the 27W factory charger.
Because my Hama QC4+ charger, certified by Qualcomm, charges definitely faster than the 18W charger found in the package, but does not say Charge Fast or even Charge Turbo.
twojastara-5 said:
does anyone tried to charge Mi 9 with this Baseus charger?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32988045731.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.71f43c00TyHdOp
is this charger compatible with 27W xiaomi charging?
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Call me crazy but I think it will charge the device at 27W speed.
A lot of people don't seem to realize but the "Xiaomi Turbo Charger 27W" is actually QC3, not QC4+, and it does charge the device at 27W. If you find a QC4+ charger that supports 27W and up, you will still get 27W charging but you won't see "Charge Turbo" because it will use the better, newer charging standard.
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
lusp00ky said:
This can make charge turbo QC 3.0 and it's cheaper and with more ports:
https://www.banggood.com/AiNaU-3-US...amsung-S8-Letv-Xiaomi6-mi5-mi6-p-1168215.html
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Yeah but it can only charge at standard QC3 speeds, aka 18W at max. 9V/2A like the original one does. But the original one can also do 12V/1.5A. So it does not "Turbo Charge".
Careful many poster here are confused. My BELKIN true QC4.0+ never ever charged over 3200mA and averaged out at under 2200mA. Posters who speak about things without testing their theories are really frustrating. Do yourself a favor don't believe this phone accepts QC4 or QC 4.0+ (at least not @July 2019) only QC 3.0 NON FAKE xiaomi 27w can do the 4600mA + it would seem. Turbo charging is required for extremely rapid charge times. Make sure you get OFFICIAL 20V 1.35A from Xiaomi for Turbo Charge sustained charge and under one hour 0--100%
I also purchased a QC 4.0+ Hama DC charger cause Xiaomi doesn't make a DC charger to my knowledge. Guess what ; 18w ish charging speeds .. no Fast or Turbo classification ...
XIAOMI Hoe do you call this phone a QC 4.0/4.0+ unit !!! Cause look close at the charger Turbo pictures they are all using the "Original QC 3.0 Xiaomi charger that we ALL should have got in the box. Instead many of us have wasted tonnes of money and time buying useless to us QC 4.0+ tech that doesn't work or WORSE fake chargers that don't do more than 18w !! By the time we we have ordered 3-4 different chargers trying to get it to work we have to order it on Ali or gearbest or Gearvita. Cause the company does make them after all!! Enjoy the brutal shipping fees and heavy wait times. Well we order this and that trying to get the darn thing to work. So annoyed right now
Hi, I got the original charger and this if it gives the turbocharged 27w charge, however the baseus charger charges the same as the one that comes in the box or with the wireless charge.
I made this short video: https://youtu.be/nFBoPxORzEg
https://forum.xda-developers.com/k20-pro/how-to/mi-9t-pro-30w-charger-experiment-t4003595
read this. Also tested with a mi9 that my fried had. same result.( Turbo charging up to 30W using the baseus charger)
Posted for those who end up here like me and read mixed info
I also have the Baseus charger mentioned above (BS-EU906), the variant with 2 usb A ports.
When I charge with the cable from my samsung galaxy tab S5e it charges with a bit over 4200mA 20w-21w.
But when I charge with my Baseus 2m 5a capable cable (CATSS-B0G), it never goes above 3400mA ~14w.
It still chargers fast, but it is not what was advertised. Both the cable and charger are rated for QC3.
Baseus GaN charger 65W + Baseus 5A cable reaches 5000mA in Ampere, which is assuming 5V (that's what Ampere is assuming), equals to 25W. The fact is voltage in QC is never stable, it's the factor that allows it to dynamically supply power based on various parameters: battery temp, device temp, battery capacity and so on. If you have a USB-C USB doctor (and it should be more accurate than any software based monitoring) you can watch yourself that both the voltage and current are alternating constantly.

Is it possible to enable 33W charging like the Redmi Note 9 Pro Max?

RN9P/S only support 18W charging out of the box but RN9P Max support 33W charging. Besides the cameras, both phones have similar specs. Could the devs technically modify the phone (software not hardware) to enable the 33W charging? Would be great if I don't have to wait 2 hours to charge the phone.
But one thing to remember here is the charger that comes with RN9P/S only supports up to 22.5W charging so you will have to buy a new charger that supports 33W.
waiting the answers
genesis89 said:
RN9P/S only support 18W charging out of the box but RN9P Max support 33W charging. Besides the cameras, both phones have similar specs. Could the devs technically modify the phone (software not hardware) to enable the 33W charging? Would be great if I don't have to wait 2 hours to charge the phone.
But one thing to remember here is the charger that comes with RN9P/S only supports up to 22.5W charging so you will have to buy a new charger that supports 33W.
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You got a device with a battery that last really long. You'll arrive at the end of the day with a great amount of charge and you can connect it on the charger overnight.
What do you need to charge it in 1 hour for?
Just to ruin your battery?
Is it certain that the 9s/9pro doesn't support 33W out of the box, and isn't just limited by the 22W charger?
My redmi note 7 charges much faster with a qc 4.0 charger than with the stock one, they just cut corners on the charger to make it more affordable.

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